used motor oil
Kang Chang
Can someone tell me where I can dump used motor oil in LA area?
Thanks in advance.
--KC
war...@tacos.caltech.edu
In article <4m3ild$o...@dewey.csun.edu>, kjc...@charlie.secs.csun.edu
(Kang Chang) wrote:
Many service stations will take recyclable oil.
Ask them where you buy gasoline. If they don't take it, ask around.
If you find another place that will take it, buy your gas from them,
instead. (price considered)
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Robert Alpert
Kang Chang (kjc...@charlie.secs.csun.edu) wrote:
> Can someone tell me where I can dump used motor oil in LA area?
> Thanks in advance.
I've posted this in the past, but you may have missed it. Popular
Science magazine ran an article on disposing of used motor oil:
"Disposing of used engine oil can be a problem.
Solution: Dig a hole in the ground with a posthole
digger and file it with fine gravel. Then pour
in the oil. It will be absorbed into the ground
before your next change. Cover the spot with soil."
(The accompanying drawing shows used motor oil being
poured into gravel-filled hole, the hole being a
cutaway view showing the gravel fill.)
--
Bob Alpert
alp...@netaxs.com
Joseph A. Giaime
I really hope that this is a sick joke! How old is that Pop Sci
issue?
-Joe
In article <4ma843$f...@netaxs.com> alp...@netaxs.com (Robert Alpert) writes:
I've posted this in the past, but you may have missed it. Popular
Science magazine ran an article on disposing of used motor oil:
"Disposing of used engine oil can be a problem.
Solution: Dig a hole in the ground with a posthole
digger and file it with fine gravel. Then pour
in the oil. It will be absorbed into the ground
before your next change. Cover the spot with soil."
(The accompanying drawing shows used motor oil being
poured into gravel-filled hole, the hole being a
cutaway view showing the gravel fill.)
--
Bob Alpert
alp...@netaxs.com
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Mike Pelletier
In article <giaimed94mpzdu.fsf@onehertz>,
Sick joke, indeed. Do they then explain how to get rid of the rainbow
film on the surface of that glass of well water?
This is the kind of pollution that motivates the EPA to remove vast
quantities of soil under certain circumstances.
-Mike Pelletier.
George Cravens
In article <warden-0105...@warden-ppp.caltech.edu>, war...@tacos.caltech.edu writes:
|> In article <4m3ild$o...@dewey.csun.edu>, kjc...@charlie.secs.csun.edu
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|> " Can someone tell me where I can dump used motor oil in LA area?
|> " Thanks in advance.
|> "
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|> Many service stations will take recyclable oil.
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|> Ask them where you buy gasoline. If they don't take it, ask around.
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|> If you find another place that will take it, buy your gas from them,
|> instead. (price considered)
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I believe that any place that sells new oil is required to accept used oil
(or have some sort of arrangement). Most of the major auto pars stores accept
used oil, although only at selected locations (I called the local Chief Auto
and they listed two or three reasonably local stores that took it, and there
was no hassle).
I used to take it to a local gas station, but they quit accepting it and
recommended the auto parts stores . . .
- GC
Bev
Kang Chang wrote:
| Can someone tell me where I can dump used motor oil in LA area?
In Pasadena: Chief, Fedco, Firestone, Jiffy Lube, Pep Boys and a few
others. Also a phone number for additional info: 818/405-4449
Bev bas...@ktb.net
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Chuck Isaacson
The following is a real bad joke. right????????????????
He has got to be kidding!!!
:
: I've posted this in the past, but you may have missed it. Popular
: Science magazine ran an article on disposing of used motor oil:
:
: "Disposing of used engine oil can be a problem.
: Solution: Dig a hole in the ground with a posthole
: digger and file it with fine gravel. Then pour
: in the oil. It will be absorbed into the ground
: before your next change. Cover the spot with soil."
:
: (The accompanying drawing shows used motor oil being
: poured into gravel-filled hole, the hole being a
: cutaway view showing the gravel fill.)
:
: --
: Bob Alpert
: alp...@netaxs.com
:
john beck
Robert Alpert (alp...@netaxs.com) wrote:
: Kang Chang (kjc...@charlie.secs.csun.edu) wrote:
: > Can someone tell me where I can dump used motor oil in LA area?
: I've posted this in the past, but you may have missed it. Popular
: Science magazine ran an article on disposing of used motor oil:
: "Disposing of used engine oil can be a problem.
: Solution: Dig a hole in the ground with a posthole
: digger and file it with fine gravel. Then pour
: in the oil. It will be absorbed into the ground
: before your next change. Cover the spot with soil."
: (The accompanying drawing shows used motor oil being
: poured into gravel-filled hole, the hole being a
: cutaway view showing the gravel fill.)
: --
: Bob Alpert
: alp...@netaxs.com
Should I place this hole next to my well or next to my garden? --J.B.
Robert Alpert
Joseph A. Giaime (gia...@jila02.colorado.edu) wrote:
> I really hope that this is a sick joke! How old is that Pop Sci
> issue?
No, it's not a joke at all. Popular Science Magazine, January 1963,
page 166, "Hints from the Model Garage." Not that long ago, really.
I know a number of people who have been disposing of oil this
way for decades. All I can suggest is that if you don't like it,
don't do it.
--
Bob Alpert
alp...@netaxs.com
Joseph A. Giaime
Don't dispose of oil this way. It is in violation of Federal law and
might lower your property value, unless you lie when selling.
Hundreds of millions of gallons of motor oil are used by Americans
each year, and we can't just dump that into our ground water anymore.
My father and I used to dump our oil like that, but he (65 years) and
I (32 years) now take it for proper disposal.
-Joe
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Ron Miller
Chuck Isaacson (cci...@mtu.edu) wrote:
: The following is a real bad joke. right????????????????
: He has got to be kidding!!!
: :
: : I've posted this in the past, but you may have missed it. Popular
: : Science magazine ran an article on disposing of used motor oil:
: :
: : "Disposing of used engine oil can be a problem.
: : Solution: Dig a hole in the ground with a posthole
: : digger and file it with fine gravel. Then pour
: : in the oil. It will be absorbed into the ground
: : before your next change. Cover the spot with soil."
Probably pre-1980 technique. Surely 1950 technique.
Now certainly an 'environmental crime.' And damned stupid too.
Ron Miller
(keeping aging motor oil in jugs until I make the trip to the recycler)
Mike Pelletier
In article <4mct62$o...@netaxs.com>, Robert Alpert <alp...@netaxs.com> wrote:
>Joseph A. Giaime (gia...@jila02.colorado.edu) wrote:
>> I really hope that this is a sick joke! How old is that Pop Sci
>> issue?
>
>No, it's not a joke at all. Popular Science Magazine, January 1963,
>page 166, "Hints from the Model Garage." Not that long ago, really.
>
>I know a number of people who have been disposing of oil this
>way for decades. All I can suggest is that if you don't like it,
>don't do it.
1963, eh? Almost eight years longer than than I've been alive and it's
not that long ago, really?
Long enough ago that the Rouge River was just starting to poison all
indigenous wildlife, and Love Canal was still only a little polluted
instead of disasterously polluted, if I'm remembering my dates correctly.
Long enough ago that the idea of a coal stack scrubber for the sake
of the environment wasn't even conceived of yet, back when leaded
gasoline was poisoning everyone, etc, etc.
I'd suggest that you inform those people you know that do this that they're
violating federal and state environmental regulations, and the EPA has
inflicted very serious punishments for offenses far less egregious than
polluting groundwater with used motor oil.
I don't like it when my water has a oily rainbow sheen on the top
of it, so don't do it.
-Mike Pelletier.
-C.ARNONE
In article <4maprp$1...@instasrv.admin>, Chuck Isaacson <cci...@mtu.edu> wrote:
>The following is a real bad joke. right????????????????
>He has got to be kidding!!!
>
>:
>: I've posted this in the past, but you may have missed it. Popular
>: Science magazine ran an article on disposing of used motor oil:
>:
>: "Disposing of used engine oil can be a problem.
>: Solution: Dig a hole in the ground with a posthole
>: digger and file it with fine gravel. Then pour
>: in the oil. It will be absorbed into the ground
I don't condone this, but you environmentalists out there ought to
know that what they do with used motor oil. They don't pass it through
some magical process and make new motor oil out of it, nor do they have some
process to turn it into water. No friends, they re-refine it and burn it as
fuel for electric generator type engines. Ever see those flashing arrow
signs on the highways powered 24 hours a day by a little generator humming
along? Yup, there's waste oil fuel in that puppy. Probably, one of these
signs running for a week generates as much pollution as a modern car running
for a year. What they can't refine into fuel, they probably throw into the
vat and make asphalt out of. But, its better than polluting the water supply.
John S. Larsen
Ok, maybe in 1963 this was considered acceptable, but, a lot of things were considered
acceptable in 1963. The world is different today and people are more conscious (sp)
about the earth and what happens to it today, maybe overly so, I don't know. I think a
better way to get rid of used motor oil is to call your city and ask them where to
dispose of used motor oil. I know in Illinois that many quick change places will take
used motor oil and will not charge you for taking it. When I lived in Minnesota, we
always took it to a city recycling center, free of charge. Both of these places have
ways to get rid of the oil in an enviromentally safe manner.
John
Joseph Jason Welser
Actually, I've always wondered what they actually do with oil that
is "properly" disposed of.
Let me go on the record as saying that I always "properly" dispose
of all of my used oil, but I always can't help but wonder if the gas
stations (i.e. oil companies), etc, don't just dump it in the ocean, or
in a landfill, etc. All the while that they do this, there are people
that get all bent out of shape if they spill a drop of oil on the
ground...
It just makes me wonder...
J
Mark Mathys
In article <8lWgkC_00...@andrew.cmu.edu>, Joseph Jason Welser
<ja...@CMU.EDU> wrote:
Joseph
In cold climates used oil is commonly used as a heating fuel. Used-oil
boilers are used by many business that generate used oil but the amount of
fuel needed is usually much greater than they can generate. Because of
this there are suppliers that sell used oil that they buy from service
stations and other generators. I don't know how it works in warm climates
but un North it works quite well.
Mark
Jerry Adams
Kang Chang (kjc...@charlie.secs.csun.edu) wrote:
:
: Can someone tell me where I can dump used motor oil in the LA area?
: Thanks in advance.
:
:
:--KC
:
Check with your local garbage company. They may take it. Here in Santa
Barbara, all you would have to do is set it out by the curb on the day
(Friday for us) when the recycling truck comes around to pick up the
aluminum cans, glass, newspapers, etc. I can even call up and they will
deliver containers for the used oil and old oil filter!
I think that many places in the LA area have recycling. You may be able
to get rid of your used oil as easily as I do. It's worth a telephone
call to find out.
Jerry Adams - jad...@west.net
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Robert Alpert
Mike Pelletier (mi...@valhalla.comshare.com) wrote:
> 1963, eh? Almost eight years longer than than I've been alive and it's
> not that long ago, really?
No, it was not very long ago at all. Sorry, but how long you've
been alive has no bearing on anything. (Except of course that
young people have no life experience to speak of and their opinions
tend to reflect that. But I digress...)
> I'd suggest that you inform those people you know that do this that they're
> violating federal and state environmental regulations, and the EPA has
I have no intention of doing anything. (For that matter, I also know
of people servicing auto air conditioning without capturing the R-12,
but that's another story.) If you don't like this disposal method,
then I would simply suggest you don't use it.
--
Bob Alpert
alp...@netaxs.com
n0...@skypoint.com
If used oil is such a wonderful heating oil,
_Why do I have to pay to dispose if it ?!?_
-- Dan Meyer
Joshua Van Tol
Cause, they've got to filter out all the sticks, pieces of bearings,
antifreze, gasoline (if there's a bunch) etc. Also you don't think the
truck to haul this stuff, etc. is expensive? Where I work we pay about $20
to have 500 gal of used oil hauled away. I think that's a pretty good
deal.
Joshua Van Tol
Well well well. Aren't you just the little goody two shoes. This kind
of attitude sucks. If I knew of anyone doing this I'd tell. After all,
it's not just your air and water that you pollute when you do
irresponsible stuff like this. Pollution created today will still be
around many years from now.
Alan Peterson
n0...@skypoint.com wrote:
: If used oil is such a wonderful heating oil,
: _Why do I have to pay to dispose if it ?!?_
: -- Dan Meyer
This brings up another point about recycling oil. How many of you have
to pay to dispose of your used oil now? It used to be free at the
local PEP Boys and garages, but now they are charging by the quart to
take used oil. Does anyone still properly dispose of it free?
Alan Peterson
Joseph A. Giaime
It is still free here in the Boulder/Denver area auto stores I've
tried (pep boys, checker). By the way, back in Massachusetts, by law
anyone who sells oil must take back an equal quantity of used oil.
Maybe more states should enact similar laws, but I guess that's up to
them.
-Joe
In article <4ml2e6$1...@nonews.col.hp.com> al...@col.hp.com (Alan
Peterson) writes:
References: <4m3ild$o...@dewey.csun.edu> <4ma843$f...@netaxs.com>
<giaimed94mpzdu.fsf@onehertz> <4mct62$o...@netaxs.com>
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<mmathys-0405...@sl10.tic.bismarck.nd.us>
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Alan Peterson
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Joseph A. Giaime wrote:
>
> It is still free here in the Boulder/Denver area auto stores I've
> tried (pep boys, checker). By the way, back in Massachusetts, by law
> anyone who sells oil must take back an equal quantity of used oil.
> Maybe more states should enact similar laws, but I guess that's up to
> them.
>
> -Joe
>
Since cars consume oil, there is soon going to be a shortage of oil in
Massachusetts. And no thanks to the suggestion that other states follow
Massachusetts example, its enough that you gave us Edward Kennedy.
Cheers
-C.ARNONE
In article <4ml2e6$1...@nonews.col.hp.com>,
Alan Peterson <al...@col.hp.com> wrote:
>This brings up another point about recycling oil. How many of you have
>to pay to dispose of your used oil now? It used to be free at the
>local PEP Boys and garages, but now they are charging by the quart to
>take used oil. Does anyone still properly dispose of it free?
>
must take used stuff for free. If I lived ina state that charged me, I
would just drive up to Pep Boys dumpster and leave it there.
Paul Schikora
In article <4ml2e6$1...@nonews.col.hp.com>,
Alan Peterson <al...@col.hp.com> wrote:
>
>This brings up another point about recycling oil. How many of you have
>to pay to dispose of your used oil now? It used to be free at the
>local PEP Boys and garages, but now they are charging by the quart to
>take used oil. Does anyone still properly dispose of it free?
Sure. Down here the county recycling center takes it for free. I don't
know about the local businesses. I imagine some of the areas where
businesses charge fees might be due to some state/local laws. e.g. if
you have your car done at a quick lube place, there's a couple dollar
recycling/disposal fee that i *think* is a government levied fee.
--
Paul F. Schikora
School of Business
Indiana University
The Hepburn
>
>This brings up another point about recycling oil. How many of you have
>to pay to dispose of your used oil now? It used to be free at the
>local PEP Boys and garages, but now they are charging by the quart to
>take used oil. Does anyone still properly dispose of it free?
>
Well, up here in San Jose, Ca we put used oil in 1 gallon jugs and leave it
by the curb on garbage day. It gets picked up along with all the other
recycle stuff (paper, glass, cardboard, plastic, etc.).
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National Semiconductor | DON'T TREAD ON ME |
Santa Clara, Ca | |
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RICHARD ROSS
JOSEPH was babbling about Re: used motor oil
JJ> Actually, I've always wondered what they actually do with oil
JJ>that is "properly" disposed of.
JJ> Let me go on the record as saying that I always "properly"
JJ>dispose of all of my used oil, but I always can't help but wonder if
JJ>the gas stations (i.e. oil companies), etc, don't just dump it in the
JJ>ocean, or in a landfill, etc. All the while that they do this, there
JJ>are people that get all bent out of shape if they spill a drop of oil
JJ>on the ground...
JJ> It just makes me wonder...
Used oil is a valuble commodity if you have a truckload of it. I can't
imagine any business stupid enough to dump a truckload of it. It can be
used as boiler fuel (with a specialy designed burner) Re refined as
motor oil, or as feed stock for a refinery to make gas , diesel, fuel
oil etc.
The problem is with small quantities, it is not economical to collect a
couple of gallons,(or a couple of barrels for that mater) and take it to
a refinery. That is what makes the laws necessary.
It is economical to take it to a refinery if the alternative is a
thousand dollar fine.
Dick Ross
richar...@bhabbs.com
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