What V8 will fit in a 1953 Ford F100 truck?
wide...@hotmail.com
Which V8 (Ford 289/302/351, Chevy 350, ??) would drop in with the least
modification to a 1953 Ford F100? Any articles or sources on the internet
which would cover something like this? The truck has the stock straight axle
and suspension. No independent front suspension is planned at the moment.
Many thanks in advance.
Bo
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they fit quite well. I've heard that the small block Fords are
becoming popular in this chassis though I haven't seen any yet.
There may be more ready made parts for the Chevy - Check some
of the Classic truck magazines.
> Many thanks in advance.
> Bo
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>Hello All:
>
>Which V8 (Ford 289/302/351, Chevy 350, ??) would drop in with the least
>modification to a 1953 Ford F100? Any articles or sources on the internet
>which would cover something like this? The truck has the stock straight axle
>and suspension. No independent front suspension is planned at the moment.
>
>Many thanks in advance.
>
>Bo
There are a number of different mount kits out there for them from
people like TransDapt. I'm sure there are others. Many of them
advertise in publications like Street Rodder.
One of the neatest ones I've seen was at a show a few weeks ago. It
was a 55 that had been put on the late rear drive Olds Cutlass
complete chassis with the olds350 engine. Owner says it drives like a
car and he never intended it to be a farm truck so it didn't matter
that it could haul nothing more than vacation luggage.
I have also been watching progress on a '48 F1 that is being modified
with a 9" rear etc but, instead of replacing the frame, he has
installed the front suspension clip from a '72 Monte Carlo complete
with the 454 and a TH400 trans. He measure carefully and cut the two
frames about where they are the same width. He slipped the Monte
frame over the stubs of the stock frame rails. He then welded
everywhere the two connected. He then boxed the frame sections for
strength to handle to 454. (He is a certified welder for the RR).
Once he finished shaping and smoothing the frame, you can't tell it
wasn't always that way. With the Monte suspension, he should have a
decent ride and handling along with solving his engine mounting
problem.
Maybe there is a morsel of the above you can use. Good luck.
Edward W Michalowski
Contact Larry Shanley Jr. at lar...@shanleypump.com He just
finished doing almost exactly what you want to do. The engine was a
remanufactured Chevy small block. Three-hundred cid plus or minus. In
fact, I was there when he first cranked up the engine. He lives in
Chicagoland and I live in the Buffalo area. We're related by marriage.
Ed
Kevin Baker
would work, but he installed the original 292 Thunderbird Y-block and
three-speed. He said it was a pretty simple job.
wide...@hotmail.com wrote in message <7f7ho6$s51$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>Hello All:
>
>Which V8 (Ford 289/302/351, Chevy 350, ??) would drop in with the least
>modification to a 1953 Ford F100? Any articles or sources on the internet
>which would cover something like this? The truck has the stock straight
axle
>and suspension. No independent front suspension is planned at the moment.
>
>Many thanks in advance.
>
>Bo
>
ddou...@dibbs.net
money and a big enough hammer!!
Bob Nixon
>I've seen lots of Chevy small blocks in the F100s. They look like
>they fit quite well. I've heard that the small block Fords are
>becoming popular in this chassis though I haven't seen any yet.
>There may be more ready made parts for the Chevy - Check some
>of the Classic truck magazines.
Why is it that every Tom, Dick and Harry out there suggests dropping a
Chevy engine in a FORD, when the nearly identically designed windsors
(221-351) are smaller, lighter and just as potent as the small block
Chevy?
>In rec.autos.rod-n-custom wide...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Hello All:
>
>> Which V8 (Ford 289/302/351, Chevy 350, ??) would drop in with the least
>> modification to a 1953 Ford F100? Any articles or sources on the internet
>> which would cover something like this? The truck has the stock straight axle
>> and suspension. No independent front suspension is planned at the moment.
>
>> Many thanks in advance.
Like I said earlier, It's a Ford and there are lots or GOOD choices
other than common as dirt chevy SB's. Plenty of room too, so a FE
(332-428) would do nicely, as would a windsor or Cleveland (if you can
find one). IMO, even an old Y-block Ford V8 would be a better choice
than a bloody Chevy engine
Bob Nixon big...@home.com
das...@aztec.asu.edu
http://members.home.net/bigrex/
Gary Glaenzer
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Bob Nixon wrote in message <3718336d.476339216@news>...
Dennis Andrew Blazewicz
: On 16 Apr 1999 08:24:02 PDT, den...@NOSPAMacostamfg.com wrote:
:
: >I've seen lots of Chevy small blocks in the F100s. They look like
: >they fit quite well. I've heard that the small block Fords are
: >becoming popular in this chassis though I haven't seen any yet.
: >There may be more ready made parts for the Chevy - Check some
: >of the Classic truck magazines.
:
: Why is it that every Tom, Dick and Harry out there suggests dropping a
: Chevy engine in a FORD, when the nearly identically designed windsors
: (221-351) are smaller, lighter and just as potent as the small block
: Chevy?
Tom, Dick, and Harry are of the more frugal type. SBC parts can be found
for a song. Windsor parts require two songs at the very least. Three
songs, if both Tom, Dick, AND Harry are doing the singing.
Howlingly yours,
Dennis
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engines is pure BS.
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Bob May
pickup! Some things are just stupid and I think that a Chevy engine in a
Ford truck is one of them. The 289-351 engine and a C6 are as good (don't
even start the haggles as to which is better) as a Chevy engine.
Bob May
Gary Glaenzer
the C-6 is the toughest 3-speed automatic ever built.
I've seen exactly two in 6 years with serious internal damage, one was
because a snap ring broke in two and destroyed the forward drum, and the
other was behind a diesel in an F-350 towing 2- 8,000 pound anhydrous
ammonia tanks and got bogged down, shifted it to 4-Lo, and kept on going
till he broke it. Tore up both planet sets.
I'm a dodge guy from way back, and the 727 is tough, but the C-6 is way
tougher. The TH350/400 aren't even in the same league, so don't even go
there.
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+AD4-Yep, like the guy that put the Pacer (AMC) front clip under his '50
Chevy
+AD4-pickup+ACE- Some things are just stupid and I think that a Chevy engine in
a
+AD4-Ford truck is one of them. The 289-351 engine and a C6 are as good
(don't
+AD4-even start the haggles as to which is better) as a Chevy engine.
+AD4-Bob May
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Bob Nixon
<datc1...@pobox.com> wrote:
>I don't know where you have been shopping, but your cost estimates of Ford
>engines is pure BS.
>
I said nothing about price but so what if he has to spend a couple of
hundred more, for the satisfaction of keeping it ALL Ford?
Sheila and the GeeSer
Dennis Andrew B. mentioned that Ford SB stuff might require some kind of
singing - like two songs.
Well, let me tell you my experience.
I have found that Ford SBs can be found. You can pay a lot for them OR
you can look around and find them very very very reasonable.
In my case, a lot of folks are experiencing the anti chevy in a ford
syndrom. So, anyone trying to do a ford gets a hand. Whether it is FE
blocks, Y-blocks, Clevelands or Windsors.
I am embarrassed to say thanks to WLT, I was able to pickup a 351W for a
very fair price. 351, FOUR Barrel, notched pistons, 290 HP for $250.
This is going into my 63 Fairlane. 260 was cute, 289 was not enough
power, 390 and Y block would not fit without a whole lot of metal
cutting, and this 351w will sure look stock at first glance and maybe I
can pretend it is a 289. snicker snicker.
Thanks Wholelottatom for the help. Thanks Bob Nixon for the comments!
Thanks dbug for all the discussion starters!
I generally drive my 67GS, it loves to eat those 302s and chevy 350s. I
just might spend all my driving time behind the wheel of my ford when it
is done...I do have to have something to keep up with my brother now
that we have the 335HP (lie lie lie) 390 installed in his 57 Fairlane.
Yep, with the new cam, carb, headers, and valve train it might just be a
little more than 330/335 HP. So, I have to keep up!!
Thanks!!
bob
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Whole Lotta Tom
spend on the important things. A smallblock Ford 302/351W is cheap, easy,
powerful and reliable. But many folks would rather spend more to put in a
428 FE because they like FEs. Still, there are lots of folks who would
rather just let someone else build it, and for these guys cheap is best.
Room for everyone, but don't talk this "Ford is expensive" crap to me, cuz
it ain't so. FEs not withstanding! ;-)
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Whole Lotta Tom
(FE) worked for my 58, a former AHRA Modified Stock dragster set up in 1968
and left that way. I am just doing some clearance work (427 valves in a 4"
bore =TIGHT!!), and replacing the "dykes" rings with Molys, and I'll advance
the Erson 308 cam 4 degrees. Should be on the street in a couple of months.
Folks see that high front end and the fenderwell headers and just love it!
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Sheila and the GeeSer <shs...@erols.com> wrote in message
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> > On Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:15:06 -0700, "Whole Lotta Tom"
> > <datc1...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I don't know where you have been shopping, but your cost estimates of
Ford
> > >engines is pure BS.
> > >
> >
> > I said nothing about price but so what if he has to spend a couple of
> > hundred more, for the satisfaction of keeping it ALL Ford?
> >
> > Bob Nixon big...@home.com
> > das...@aztec.asu.edu
> > http://members.home.net/bigrex/
>
John van Veen
>
> Why is it that every Tom, Dick and Harry out there suggests dropping a
> Chevy engine in a FORD, when the nearly identically designed windsors
> (221-351) are smaller, lighter and just as potent as the small block
> Chevy?
>
>
PU. Easy swap, ran well.
John
Gary Glaenzer
had a customer bring in a 79 F-150 for a transmission job; when I got
under it, it had a Pontiac 400 and a TH400 in it!
Guess there's all kinds of swaps made all the time.
GG
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Lynn R Shultz
situation with motor mounts and bell housing adapter from Honest Charlie's
Speed Shop. The instructions specified the clutch disc a pressure plate (10
inch Mercury I think) which was also a simple "bolt in" job
den...@nospamacostamfg.com
> On 16 Apr 1999 08:24:02 PDT, den...@NOSPAMacostamfg.com wrote:
> >I've seen lots of Chevy small blocks in the F100s. They look like
> >they fit quite well. I've heard that the small block Fords are
> >becoming popular in this chassis though I haven't seen any yet.
> >There may be more ready made parts for the Chevy - Check some
> >of the Classic truck magazines.
> Why is it that every Tom, Dick and Harry out there suggests dropping a
> Chevy engine in a FORD, when the nearly identically designed windsors
> (221-351) are smaller, lighter and just as potent as the small block
> Chevy?
Sorry you misread my post. I've seen many F100s with Chevy SBs. Doesn't
mean I condone it. Read it again. The subject and post didn't specify
he wanted to stay true to Ford. I responded to someone's question
(which is what ngs are for).
> >In rec.autos.rod-n-custom wide...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> Hello All:
> >
> >> Which V8 (Ford 289/302/351, Chevy 350, ??) would drop in with the least
> >> modification to a 1953 Ford F100? Any articles or sources on the internet
> >> which would cover something like this? The truck has the stock straight axle
> >> and suspension. No independent front suspension is planned at the moment.
> >
> >> Many thanks in advance.
--
John J. Sowards
>
> On 16 Apr 1999 08:24:02 PDT, den...@NOSPAMacostamfg.com wrote:
>
> >I've seen lots of Chevy small blocks in the F100s. They look like
> >they fit quite well. I've heard that the small block Fords are
> >becoming popular in this chassis though I haven't seen any yet.
> >There may be more ready made parts for the Chevy - Check some
> >of the Classic truck magazines.
>
> Why is it that every Tom, Dick and Harry out there suggests dropping a
> Chevy engine in a FORD, when the nearly identically designed windsors
> (221-351) are smaller, lighter and just as potent as the small block
> Chevy?
>
> >> Hello All:
> >
> >> Which V8 (Ford 289/302/351, Chevy 350, ??) would drop in with the least
> >> modification to a 1953 Ford F100? Any articles or sources on the internet
> >> which would cover something like this? The truck has the stock straight axle
> >> and suspension. No independent front suspension is planned at the moment.
> >
> >> Many thanks in advance.
>
> other than common as dirt chevy SB's. Plenty of room too, so a FE
> (332-428) would do nicely, as would a windsor or Cleveland (if you can
> find one). IMO, even an old Y-block Ford V8 would be a better choice
> than a bloody Chevy engine
>
IMO - If your building a custom it is because you want a vehicle that
stands out and there isn't another one like it, hence the word custom.
So why would anyone want to use a plain Jane SB Chevy? Sure cost is a
consideration and anyone who says they can build a Ford motor for the
same price as a Chevy hasn't bought aftermarket parts. But the whole
idea of a custom rod is that it's custom. How about an old Firedome, or
Cross Boss, or Max wedge, or a 427SOHC, or a 409, or Cadi. or,or,or...
I say dare to be different!!!!!!!!!!
John Sowards
'69 Barracuda Formula S (BB)
Flemming & MacDonald
F100(Not something thats rodded often eh?) I think a MPFI 426 Hemi would look best
'neath the hood of my truck, but I have only ever seen one(head mechanic at the local
Dodge dealer made it up at some training thingamobob.) I also have a 53 F1 with a
swapped in Industrial Ford OHV V8(weird or what?) and am in the process of rebuilding
that engine, but, it ain't going into the truck, a Blown Nitroed flathead is going
in(yes I am crazy) and that Industrial is gonna make the space between the front axle
and transmission in my second V8n(yes thats a tractor, and yes I am really crazy) the
first V8N has a 351W (I assre you, I am a speed freak.)
Evan MacDonald
John J. Sowards
Evan
The SOHC was 427. Bob Glidden was using it right up until the day he
retired. The 428 was a wedge (Cobra Jet) and the 429 was the Super Cobra
Jet (still a wedge). Keep thinking different.. you the man!
Robert Guthrie
little car.
Robert
Larry Smith
still drag races them,
matched to 2speed powerglide transmissions.
Normally, those of use who owned Fords had to put some extra work into them
to make them
compete with the GM products. Nontheless, if you were willing to put in the
effort, you COULD
be competitive against the GM's and Chryslers.
I had an original 428 Cobrajet Mustang, and it was a turd in every meaning
of the
word. Biggest disappointment I ever had to live with. Would have traded it
for a Pacer
at one point in my life. My 289 Mustang was far more pleasant to drive, and
in racing tune
was not so terribly much slower through the traps.
The CJ had a C6 transmission, and it held up okay, but was well matched to
the 428CJ...it was a turd too.
For so many years Ford made intolerable junk (like many other Detroit
industries) that rode like
stagecoaches- that patented "square-wheel ride" that Ford was famous for.
Still, parts interchangeability
was great, you needed little more than a screwdriver, 1/2 and 9/16 inch
wrenches to work on them.
Now that I am mature (okay, 'old'), I have a little different perspective
when it comes to cars.
It concerns me that Ford and Chrysler have such bad reputations now about
the serviceability of their
transmissions - 40-50,000 mile lives being claimed as median. So no more
automatics for me, no matter
whose car I buy.
Although I don't want anymore big blocks, I still want to put together
another custom, and am thinking about a
replica Porsche Spyder, with perhaps a GM V6 and the 5 speed manual
transmission.
So much for bench talk. Hope I didn't bore you guys
faze...@gmail.com
> Hello All:
>
> Which V8 (Ford 289/302/351, Chevy 350, ??) would drop in with the least
> modification to a 1953 Ford F100? Any articles or sources on the internet
> which would cover something like this? The truck has the stock straight axle
> and suspension. No independent front suspension is planned at the moment.
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>
>
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