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micky

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Jan 24, 2024, 6:49:42 AMJan 24
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My rental, a Toyota Yaris, has a simple heater/AC and sometimes, with
the fan on 1, the lowest speed other than "stop", and the temp on
coldest, it's too cold.

The solution seems to be to move the temp towards warm, but when I do
that, am I not using gasoline to run the AC and then mixing warm air
with the cold air, that I just paid to create? If saving money were my
only consideration, shouldn't I keep the AC all the way on cold, but
turn it on and off, like a furnace or AC unit at home works? (Yes, of
course the car is much smaller than the house and so I'd alternate
between being too hot and being too cold, but this is an academic
question.)

What about my own car, that has an automatic setting which it says will
keep the temp at whatever temp I set it to? 70, 68, 72, whatever. Does
this work differently from the simple AC in the paragraph above? Doesn't
it also mix warm air heated by engine coolant with cold air cooled by
the AC, using extra gasoline?

Isn't the only way to save money to set the AC all the way to the
coldest, and turn it off if it gets too cold?


BTW, when I was here 53 years ago, I dont' remember there ever being a
hot day. I was on foot, carrying a rucksack**, hitchhiking or walking
around town.

**A strange backpack with a metal frame but one unlike any other one
I've seen before or since. The frame was not two parallel sides, but
sort of a figure 8 (but not that narrow in the middle. I might still
have it in the basement, but the cloth is probably no good anymore.

Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 24, 2024, 9:26:31 AMJan 24
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On 2024-01-24, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
> My rental, a Toyota Yaris, has a simple heater/AC and sometimes, with
> the fan on 1, the lowest speed other than "stop", and the temp on
> coldest, it's too cold.
>
> The solution seems to be to move the temp towards warm, but when I do
> that, am I not using gasoline to run the AC and then mixing warm air
> with the cold air, that I just paid to create? If saving money were my
> only consideration, shouldn't I keep the AC all the way on cold, but
> turn it on and off, like a furnace or AC unit at home works? (Yes, of
> course the car is much smaller than the house and so I'd alternate
> between being too hot and being too cold, but this is an academic
> question.)
>
> What about my own car, that has an automatic setting which it says will
> keep the temp at whatever temp I set it to? 70, 68, 72, whatever. Does
> this work differently from the simple AC in the paragraph above? Doesn't
> it also mix warm air heated by engine coolant with cold air cooled by
> the AC, using extra gasoline?
>
> Isn't the only way to save money to set the AC all the way to the
> coldest, and turn it off if it gets too cold?

If you're that worried about spending money, perhaps you should
stay home.

--
Cindy Hamilton

Mark Lloyd

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Jan 24, 2024, 6:14:05 PMJan 24
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On 1/24/24 04:49, micky wrote:
> My rental, a Toyota Yaris, has a simple heater/AC and sometimes, with
> the fan on 1, the lowest speed other than "stop", and the temp on
> coldest, it's too cold.
>
> The solution seems to be to move the temp towards warm, but when I do
> that, am I not using gasoline to run the AC and then mixing warm air
> with the cold air, that I just paid to create?

IIRC, on mine the temp control varies the compressor duty cycle.

[snip]

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Gun control is HITTING what you aim at."

Bob F

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Jan 24, 2024, 10:56:29 PMJan 24
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You can change the setting, then watch the A/C compressor clutch cycle
on/off at different rates, I bet.

micky

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Jan 24, 2024, 11:52:02 PMJan 24
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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:14:01 -0600, Mark Lloyd
<not....@all.invalid> wrote:

>On 1/24/24 04:49, micky wrote:
>> My rental, a Toyota Yaris, has a simple heater/AC and sometimes, with
>> the fan on 1, the lowest speed other than "stop", and the temp on
>> coldest, it's too cold.
>>
>> The solution seems to be to move the temp towards warm, but when I do
>> that, am I not using gasoline to run the AC and then mixing warm air
>> with the cold air, that I just paid to create?
>
>IIRC, on mine the temp control varies the compressor duty cycle.

That would be good. That would be just fine.

Now I remember what I'm supposed to look for in the owners manaul. 690
pages... maybe tomorrow.
>
>[snip]
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