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BG 44K vs Techron Concentrate

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DocYahoo

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May 26, 2003, 9:23:47 PM5/26/03
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Which FI cleaner is better for my 1994 Honda Del Sol with 105,550
miles on it? I do not believe its FI has ever been cleaned before (I'm
the second owner). I understand that Techron is not as concentrated as
BG 44K (I read that Techron uses 4% of BG 44K while BG 44K uses 100%
of itself), but will Techron do as a good job as BG 44K on the initial
use?

The lowest price I have found is:
Techron: $5.78/12oz. (a $2.00 rebate is available from Cheveron)
BG 44K $14.71 + $4.45 shipping (I plan on buying two for a 1993 Toyota
Camry)

Thanks,

DocYahoo

Roger Wilson

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May 26, 2003, 11:11:13 PM5/26/03
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DocYahoo wrote:

> Which FI cleaner is better for my 1994 Honda Del Sol with 105,550
> miles on it? I do not believe its FI has ever been cleaned before (I'm
> the second owner). I understand that Techron is not as concentrated as
> BG 44K (I read that Techron uses 4% of BG 44K while BG 44K uses 100%
> of itself), but will Techron do as a good job as BG 44K on the initial
> use?

What problems are you experiencing that require a fuel injector cleaner?
This is not something you want to put in as a preventative measure. If it
isn't broke, don't 'fix' it. There are enough detergents in gasoline to
keep your injectors clean, although some brands of gas are better than
others. BTW Most of these pour in the tank type of products rely heavily
on Stoddard solvent.

AZGuy

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May 27, 2003, 2:18:32 AM5/27/03
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I'd vote for the Techron as Chevron has in the past released detailed
info on how well it works at various concentration. I'd be very
surprised if whatever BG 44K uses is anything remotely like the stuff
in Techron since I don't think Chevron lets anyone else use their
patented product. All gas must have a minimal level of detergent in
it but not all detergents work the same or as well. If you are
willing to accept CHevron's claims, they say the Automakers truck
CHevron Retail gas from out of state to their factory for use in
certifying their emission systems will work properly for the required
period of time. Part of getting them to work properly is a gas
detergent that keeps the fuel system and combustion chamber clean.
The cleansing effect of Chevrons Techron is dependent on the
concentration level in the gas. As pumped, it has the minimum level
to meet fed requirements. If you feel you may need better cleaning
or want to simply use it as a preventative treatment it's perfectly ok
to use it as directed and from what I've seen you could double the
dose if you felt you had a need. If things are that dirty you should
probably do it about 500 miles before an oil change.

do_not_spam_me

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May 27, 2003, 8:59:30 AM5/27/03
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jazz...@yahoo.com (DocYahoo) wrote in message news:<881fd338.0305...@posting.google.com>...

> Which FI cleaner is better for my 1994 Honda Del Sol with 105,550
> miles on it? I do not believe its FI has ever been cleaned before (I'm
> the second owner). I understand that Techron is not as concentrated as
> BG 44K (I read that Techron uses 4% of BG 44K while BG 44K uses 100%
> of itself), but will Techron do as a good job as BG 44K on the initial
> use?

I have no idea which is better, but www.techronconcentrate.com seems
to provide more information and less hype than www.bgprod.com, and
Techron has been approved by at least a half dozen car makers (OK, one
of them is Fiat), while I don't know which ones approve of BG44K.

Chevron says its Techron Concentrate increases the concentration of
detergent in the fuel by a factor of 40 and recommends no more than
approximately 1 oz. of bottled Techron per gallon of fuel. If BG44K
is 24 times more concentrated, does that mean BG Products recommends a
detergent concentration of 1000x, or are you supposed to put only
about a teaspoon in the tank?

Jer

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May 27, 2003, 1:38:49 PM5/27/03
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from what I've heard about these two products. BG44k is a much more
concentrated "techron" then chevron's brand of techron. BG44k is a
commercial/industrial concentration and isn't necessarily geared
toward consumers. But I hear a lot of people who "swear" by it.

Either way both are good products, but if you want a more potent
"techron" ... use BG44k. Now I'm not an expert on all of this, but
I've heard a lot of people talk about both products and this is the
conclusion that I've come to on both of them.

Hope this helps...

-Jerry

p.s. - I'd use bg44k for the first time round...then if you ever need
to use a product like this again...try using normal Chevron "techron".

Eida Manne

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May 27, 2003, 5:02:31 PM5/27/03
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============================================================================


BG 44K vs Techron Concentrate

Group: rec.autos.tech Date: Mon, May 26, 2003, 6:23pm (CDT-2) From:
jazz...@yahoo.com (DocYahoo)


(question #1)


Which FI cleaner is better for my 1994 Honda Del Sol with 105,550 miles
on it?


I do not believe its FI has ever been cleaned before (I'm the second
owner). I understand that Techron is not as concentrated as BG 44K (I
read that Techron uses 4% of BG 44K while BG 44K uses 100% of itself),
but


(question #2)


will Techron do as a good job as BG 44K on the initial use?


The lowest price I have found is:
Techron: $5.78/12oz. (a $2.00 rebate is available from Cheveron)
BG 44K $14.71 + $4.45 shipping (I plan on buying two for a 1993 Toyota
Camry)
Thanks,
DocYahoo

============================================================================

answers to your questions.......

1) either

2) No


these answers are based on your questions....
and the fact that you didn't post you were having a problem.........

.....
HaroldLoyd

would suggest just using Chevron premium on
the next couple of tanks......it already has the
Techron in it........but then Harolds car is running good and doesn't
have dirty injectors...
or he might would use an injected type fuel
system cleaning hook-up ...... as that would be
best....

============================================================================

AZGuy

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May 27, 2003, 11:42:44 PM5/27/03
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As does the non-premium. Is the rest of your "knowledge" is as good
as that gem??

DocYahoo

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May 28, 2003, 12:46:58 AM5/28/03
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Roger:

The reason why I started to look into a fuel injector cleaner is
because when my car was SMOGed last year (ownership transfer), its
Hydrocarbon (HC) level was at the California legal limit (92 PPM --
stated on the SMOG report). Therefore, I want to make sure my car
passes the SMOG this year (I'm req'd to go to a 'test-only' station
this time). From what I have read (some on Techron's website), high
HC emission is mainly caused by unburned fuel (several factor could
cause unburn fuel to be exhaused -- including clogged FI and engine
misfire). On Techron's website, it stated that a clogged FI causes
high HC emission (my spark plugs were changed after the first SMOG
test). At any rate, this is why I'm looking for a FI cleaner.

Am I heading toward the right direction?

Thanks,

DocYahoo

Roger Wilson <roger....@ff.spamfree> wrote in message news:<3ED2D751...@ff.spamfree>...

DocYahoo

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May 28, 2003, 12:49:27 AM5/28/03
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Harold,

I don't have a problem per se, but in a message I replied to Roger (I
posted the reply after your msg), I stated that my HC emission in my
last SMOG report was right at the California legal limit. Thus, I'm
trying to lower the HC emission.

Do you think using either the Techron Concentrate or the BG 44K will
help?

Thanks,

DocYahoo


Harol...@webtv.net (Eida Manne) wrote in message news:<26310-3ED...@storefull-2355.public.lawson.webtv.net>...

Jer

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May 29, 2003, 10:40:45 AM5/29/03
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> Harold,
>
> I don't have a problem per se, but in a message I replied to Roger (I
> posted the reply after your msg), I stated that my HC emission in my
> last SMOG report was right at the California legal limit. Thus, I'm
> trying to lower the HC emission.
>
> Do you think using either the Techron Concentrate or the BG 44K will
> help?
>

it helped me a little. I've heard from many that using this stuff
before emissions test is a good idea and does help(as it seems to have
done for me) ; it can help give you positive results for passing the
emmissions test. Go ahead an use it if you haven't already...it won't
hurt anything...unless you use it constantly at each gas station stop
you make...

use it as directed...every 3k miles(that is for the chevron techron)
or as I prefer...twice a year with either the chevron techron or
bg44k.

-jer

jo...@bgnebraska.com

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Aug 13, 2014, 9:33:16 PM8/13/14
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After having tested hundreds of fuels from various stations for REAL detergency content, I have found that almost ALL gasoline has little to no detergency in it. Think about it. There are 3 costs in fuel. Fuel, additives, and advertising. Funny this is, the fuel is the cheapest part pound for pound. The additives are extremely expensive (thus BG44K and Chevron Techron pricing), and are often not added at all. And we all know how much advertising is. Think about how many fuel commercials you see. There are a few good products out there. Techron is one of them. But nothing stacks up to BG 44K. I have tested the additives that are added to the fuel with dozens and dozens of products hundreds of times to verify consistency. Dollar for dollar, your best bet is 44K, best and most complete product.

jo...@bgnebraska.com

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Aug 13, 2014, 9:42:28 PM8/13/14
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The "stuff" used in BOTH of the products is a highly effective compound called polyetheramine, or PEA. And in no way is it a patented compound. Specifically blended products (BG 44K & Chevron Techron as well as others) are patented, but the individual ingredients can not be patented. And having tested both products for their additive content, BG 44K comes out on top every time. More polyetheramine content than any other product I have found, and after Techron, nothing even comes close.
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