Cord showing on tire, is this bad?
cama...@my-dejanews.com
Today I noticed that my left front tire is worn down to the cord on a
couple of places on the outer edge. I know it's not a good thing, but
just how bad is it? I know it's due to a misalignment because it's the
same on the other side, just not that bad. I will get a realignment of
the front as soon as possible and I'm wondering if I have to buy new
front tires at the same time? I don't have to get the car inspected
until August and I was hoping to drive on the tires until then since a
new pair of tires for my car costs almost $400 including mounting and
tax. However I don't want to get a tire blowout or anything when I'm
traveling down the highway at 90 mph.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Ulf
'97 Camaro Z28 6-speed
Don Stauffer
Yeah, you can probably get by till August, provided you take it easy,
and don't drive more than two miles a month. Even then, I suggest you
keep speed down to 30 mph.
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Craig Keto
the alignment will be shot in a few weeks... just get 2 new tires, and then
align it RIGHT away, and you'll be fine. you wore them things out pretty
fast...
cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
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Yip Yu
> Hey!
>
> Today I noticed that my left front tire is worn down to the cord on a
> couple of places on the outer edge. I know it's not a good thing, but
> just how bad is it? I know it's due to a misalignment because it's the
> same on the other side, just not that bad. I will get a realignment of
> the front as soon as possible and I'm wondering if I have to buy new
> front tires at the same time? I don't have to get the car inspected
> until August and I was hoping to drive on the tires until then since a
> new pair of tires for my car costs almost $400 including mounting and
> tax. However I don't want to get a tire blowout or anything when I'm
> traveling down the highway at 90 mph.
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Ulf
>
> '97 Camaro Z28 6-speed
>
>
>
Cords showing is bad news. Suggest check for bad shocks/struts, worn
suspension parts, wheel bearings and correct before tire replacement and
alignment.
If you think the cost of new tires are expensive, what's the cost of a
replacement camaro when the car gets wrapped around a tree? Also, should
not be going 90 mph with cords exposed (A common sense thing for you I
hope!)
mini...@home.com
>Hey!
>
>Today I noticed that my left front tire is worn down to the cord on a
>couple of places on the outer edge. I know it's not a good thing, but
>just how bad is it? I know it's due to a misalignment because it's the
>same on the other side, just not that bad. I will get a realignment of
>the front as soon as possible and I'm wondering if I have to buy new
>front tires at the same time? I don't have to get the car inspected
>until August and I was hoping to drive on the tires until then since a
>new pair of tires for my car costs almost $400 including mounting and
>tax. However I don't want to get a tire blowout or anything when I'm
>traveling down the highway at 90 mph.
>Any thoughts?
>
>Thanks,
>Ulf
>
>'97 Camaro Z28 6-speed
If I were you, I'd park the car and inspect the whole front suspension
and replace everything that's worn out.
And until then, don't use the car ! If by chance you get pulled over
for a traffic violation...The police officer/constable may just feel
it necessary to impound your vehicle on the basis that it's unsafe to
operated on a public road or highway
After all, you might not be the only person who would suffer any
misery from an accident at 90 MPH if your tire decides to blow out !
Steve Gerland
90 MPH with cord showing on a *front* tire?
Are you serious?
Steve
Nathan J Nagel
th.. by cama...@my-dejanews.co
> Hey!
>
> Today I noticed that my left front tire is worn down to the cord on a
> couple of places on the outer edge. I know it's not a good thing, but
> just how bad is it? I know it's due to a misalignment because it's the
> same on the other side, just not that bad. I will get a realignment of
> the front as soon as possible and I'm wondering if I have to buy new
> front tires at the same time? I don't have to get the car inspected
> until August and I was hoping to drive on the tires until then since a
> new pair of tires for my car costs almost $400 including mounting and
> tax. However I don't want to get a tire blowout or anything when I'm
> traveling down the highway at 90 mph.
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Ulf
>
> '97 Camaro Z28 6-speed
If you're seeing cord, you probably don't want to drive any farther than
the tire store, and then directly to the alignment rack. If you're
really that hard up for cash see if you can't score some less worn tires
from a junkyard. Cord is a BIG no-no. Once you wear THROUGH the cord
(how long do you think that will take?) you're only a couple miles from
a blowout, unless you're REAL lucky. BTW, your alignment will be better
if you have it done with the new tires on.
nate
cama...@my-dejanews.com
referring to my normal freeway cruising speed. Now the fastest I drive is 60
mph which is when I'm late for school, but that shouldn't be any problems
since it's only a 5 minute city drive. BTW, is it really that serious? I
mean the rest of the tire still has some thread left and if I could only get
all the wear of the places where the cord is showing I figured I'll be all
right. I'm more worried that if I get pulled over by a cop and he sees it,
he'll turn evil...
Ulf
Steve Gerland wrote:
> 90 MPH with cord showing on a *front* tire?
> Are you serious?
>
> Steve
>
> cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> : Hey!
RAY MCNAIRY
cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Now that I know the cord is showing I won't drive that fast, but I was
> referring to my normal freeway cruising speed. Now the fastest I drive is 60
> mph which is when I'm late for school, but that shouldn't be any problems
> since it's only a 5 minute city drive. BTW, is it really that serious? I
> mean the rest of the tire still has some thread left and if I could only get
> all the wear of the places where the cord is showing I figured I'll be all
> right. I'm more worried that if I get pulled over by a cop and he sees it,
> he'll turn evil...
In most places the cops would give you a ticket. even if parked Look at it
this way: would you use a condom that worn? You could have a blow out and
kill yourself or worse yet someone else dirving with tread showing. The cords
are NOT a wear surface.
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Ciao, Ray (Boomer) McNairy
"624"
"So many fools, so few comets!"
Nathan J Nagel
i.. by Chil...@aol.com
>
> This must be a joke. Nobody is that stupid
>
Not true. There are people that stupid. In fact, I remember stopping
in at a local gas station (near the house I grew up, I must have been
about 13, I know I was nowhere near old enough to actually drive, the
place is long out of business) and my dad went in to BS with the
owner/mechanic/buddy of his. Some guy rolls in in a clapped out old
Fairmont, pulls a decently corded tire out of the trunk, asks the mech.
to mount it for him. He just rolls his eyes and does it. My dad's
looking at him kinda funny (obviously.) When the guy leaves the mech
says to my dad "that guy's in here about twice a month, same deal, he's
got a flat because he runs crap tires. I've tried to tell him to buy
new ones but he refuses to listen to me." My dad's still looking at him
funny, says "isn't that unsafe to have him driving around on that tire?"
The response? "You should see the one I took off!" HOLY F**KING S**T!
the tire was worn through to the cord ALL THE WAY AROUND (not just at
the edge, all the way across the tread) and through it in several
places. One of which obviously finally gave out.
So to give you the short response, yes, there are unbelievably stupid
people in this world.
nate
PS - if you figure $5 to mount a tire every two weeks, how much was he
really "saving?" Hmmm....
ameijers
>
> Now that I know the cord is showing I won't drive that fast, but I was
> referring to my normal freeway cruising speed. Now the fastest I drive is 60
> mph which is when I'm late for school, but that shouldn't be any problems
> since it's only a 5 minute city drive. BTW, is it really that serious? I
> mean the rest of the tire still has some thread left and if I could only get
> all the wear of the places where the cord is showing I figured I'll be all
> right. I'm more worried that if I get pulled over by a cop and he sees it,
> he'll turn evil...
>
>
> Steve Gerland wrote:
>
> > 90 MPH with cord showing on a *front* tire?
> > Are you serious?
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > : Hey!
> >
> > : Today I noticed that my left front tire is worn down to the cord on a
> > : couple of places on the outer edge. I know it's not a good thing, but
> > : just how bad is it? I know it's due to a misalignment because it's the
> > : same on the other side, just not that bad. I will get a realignment of
> > : the front as soon as possible and I'm wondering if I have to buy new
> > : front tires at the same time? I don't have to get the car inspected
> > : until August and I was hoping to drive on the tires until then since a
> > : new pair of tires for my car costs almost $400 including mounting and
> > : tax. However I don't want to get a tire blowout or anything when I'm
> > : traveling down the highway at 90 mph.
> > : Any thoughts?
> >
> > : Thanks,
> > : Ulf
> >
> > : '97 Camaro Z28 6-speed
(Put your asbestos suit on, kid.)
1. If you can't afford to keep it in tires, and the front end adjusted,
you should not be driving a hot rod like that. Park it, or preferably
sell it, and buy something more suited to your current economic status.
Insurance and tires for a econobox are much cheaper, and will leave more
money for school. If you are beating on the car so hard as to wreck the
front suspension, and grind off the tires, something a little milder
seems called for.
2. I hope someone in the town you live sees your post, and drops a dime
to the law. Killing your own silly self would be simple Darwinism in
action, but the minivan full of kids in the oncoming lane on the curve
when the tire blows out don't deserve to die, too. And it WILL fail, the
only question is when.
3. Pretty sad that your self-identity is so wedded to your wheels that
you use it as a sig file. Don't get me wrong- I enjoy a well-set-up car
and a winding road as much as the next guy, but I don't abuse equipment
or knowingly drive anything that will endanger others. But it's just a
car, not who I am.
Flame mode off.
I used to know guy a like you, loved to drive fast, didn't have much
sense about it. Grew up, scraped together enough cash for a Vette, lost
an argument with a tree in it. Now he's plant food.
aem sends....
Chili442
mini...@home.com
>This must be a joke. Nobody is that stupid
Oh ya?
On a totally different topic about stupid people...
I,long ago,used to pump gas,well,this dumb fuck pulled in with a
rather expensive Mercedes Benz.
He asked me to check the oil !
When I did, I replied what oil ?
It didn't even register on the dip stick !
Like it was bone dry ! In fact, the dip stick looked some what baked !
Anyhow,I told the chap that it would probably need a minimum of two
liters just to bring it up to the "add a " level !
Non the less, he confered that he had oil at home, and that he would
pour a liter in when he got home in penticton(Which in this case would
be about 300 + miles !)
Now thats stupid.
It really scares me what some people do !
George Jefferson
:Today I noticed that my left front tire is worn down to the cord on a
:couple of places on the outer edge. I know it's not a good thing, but
:just how bad is it? [...] However I don't want to get a tire blowout or
:anything when I'm
:traveling down the highway at 90 mph.
:Any thoughts?
--
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John Schmidt
>Hey!
>
>Today I noticed that my left front tire is worn down to the cord on a
>couple of places on the outer edge. I know it's not a good thing, but
>just how bad is it? I know it's due to a misalignment because it's the
>same on the other side, just not that bad. I will get a realignment of
>the front as soon as possible and I'm wondering if I have to buy new
>front tires at the same time? I don't have to get the car inspected
>until August and I was hoping to drive on the tires until then since a
>new pair of tires for my car costs almost $400 including mounting and
>tax. However I don't want to get a tire blowout or anything when I'm
>traveling down the highway at 90 mph.
>Any thoughts?
>
>Thanks,
>Ulf
>
>'97 Camaro Z28 6-speed
>
This HAS to be a trick question. I think "duh" would be a good
answer.
Steve Gerland
much left and you are getting very close to losing that tire. It
will either blow out somewhere, or just go flat all on it's own
soon.
Steve
"58" is spam stopper.
cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
: Now that I know the cord is showing I won't drive that fast, but I was
: referring to my normal freeway cruising speed. Now the fastest I drive is 60
: mph which is when I'm late for school, but that shouldn't be any problems
: since it's only a 5 minute city drive. BTW, is it really that serious? I
: mean the rest of the tire still has some thread left and if I could only get
: all the wear of the places where the cord is showing I figured I'll be all
: right. I'm more worried that if I get pulled over by a cop and he sees it,
: he'll turn evil...
: Ulf
: Steve Gerland wrote:
: > 90 MPH with cord showing on a *front* tire?
: > Are you serious?
: >
: > Steve
: >
L. Smith
thrown
tread could result at any moment. At 90 mph your chances of a failure are
increased
dramatically, and your chance of survival is not too good.
I would suggest you re-evaluate your priorities.
cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Hey!
>
> Today I noticed that my left front tire is worn down to the cord on a
> couple of places on the outer edge. I know it's not a good thing, but
> just how bad is it? I know it's due to a misalignment because it's the
> same on the other side, just not that bad. I will get a realignment of
> the front as soon as possible and I'm wondering if I have to buy new
> front tires at the same time? I don't have to get the car inspected
> until August and I was hoping to drive on the tires until then since a
> new pair of tires for my car costs almost $400 including mounting and
> tax. However I don't want to get a tire blowout or anything when I'm
> traveling down the highway at 90 mph.
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Ulf
>
> '97 Camaro Z28 6-speed
--
- Larry Smith
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until you check my address for spam-wedge
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morning?
In article <36966D6F...@my-dejanews.com>,
cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Hey!
>
> Today I noticed that my left front tire is worn down to the cord on a
> couple of places on the outer edge. I know it's not a good thing, but
> just how bad is it? I know it's due to a misalignment because it's the
> same on the other side, just not that bad. I will get a realignment of
> the front as soon as possible and I'm wondering if I have to buy new
> front tires at the same time? I don't have to get the car inspected
> until August and I was hoping to drive on the tires until then since a
> new pair of tires for my car costs almost $400 including mounting and
> tax. However I don't want to get a tire blowout or anything when I'm
> traveling down the highway at 90 mph.
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Ulf
>
> '97 Camaro Z28 6-speed
>
>
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David M. Spera
cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Hey!
>
> Today I noticed that my left front tire is worn down to the cord on a
> couple of places on the outer edge. I know it's not a good thing, but
> just how bad is it? I know it's due to a misalignment because it's the
> same on the other side, just not that bad. I will get a realignment of
> the front as soon as possible and I'm wondering if I have to buy new
> front tires at the same time? I don't have to get the car inspected
> until August and I was hoping to drive on the tires until then since a
> new pair of tires for my car costs almost $400 including mounting and
> tax. However I don't want to get a tire blowout or anything when I'm
> traveling down the highway at 90 mph.
> Any thoughts?
>
If you value your life you will get the new tires today. Forget about your
life-get them today anyway, I care about my life when I'm on the same road
as you!
David M. Spera
cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Now that I know the cord is showing I won't drive that fast, but I was
> referring to my normal freeway cruising speed. Now the fastest I drive is 60
> mph which is when I'm late for school, but that shouldn't be any problems
> since it's only a 5 minute city drive. BTW, is it really that serious? I
> mean the rest of the tire still has some thread left and if I could only get
> all the wear of the places where the cord is showing I figured I'll be all
> right. I'm more worried that if I get pulled over by a cop and he sees it,
> he'll turn evil...
>
> Ulf
>
REPLACE THOSE TIRES NOW!!!!> YES, I KNOW I'M SHOUTING. THIS IS SERIOUS.
Uncle Dodo
thin layer of rubber that can easily blow out. YOur really pushing it driving
when the treads are showing!
cama...@my-dejanews.com
cord is only showing on the outer edge on the tire and it's not more than
about half an inch wide, even though it shows almost around the whole tire,
I still think that I could get away with realignment because the rest of the
tire still shows tread even though maybe not the legal amount. Besides,
front end alignment $19.95, two new tires $400. See the difference? Trust
me, if I had $400 I would get a new set of tires but I don't. I was also
thinking that if I swap places of the tires so that the cord is on the
inside where there isn't any wear that would work too, right? And how could
the realignment only last for a couple of weeks anyway?
Ulf
Nathan J Nagel wrote:
> Excerpts from netnews.rec.autos.tech: 8-Jan-99 Cord showing on tire, is
> th.. by cama...@my-dejanews.co
> >
> > Hey!
> >
> > Today I noticed that my left front tire is worn down to the cord on a
> > couple of places on the outer edge. I know it's not a good thing, but
> > just how bad is it? I know it's due to a misalignment because it's the
> > same on the other side, just not that bad. I will get a realignment of
> > the front as soon as possible and I'm wondering if I have to buy new
> > front tires at the same time? I don't have to get the car inspected
> > until August and I was hoping to drive on the tires until then since a
> > new pair of tires for my car costs almost $400 including mounting and
> > tax. However I don't want to get a tire blowout or anything when I'm
> > traveling down the highway at 90 mph.
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ulf
> >
> > '97 Camaro Z28 6-speed
>
Craig Keto
your tires are bad anyway. you need new tires no way around it
half an inch is alot of cord
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Robert Hancock
at that point. Even if you can't afford new tires, can you afford used tires
in better condition than your current ones?
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The Dirtyman
I wouldn't sweat it...give it a day or two and you won't have to use that
silly air pressure gauge to check the air....you can just look through the
hole in the tire and see how much is in it...So much simpler, and you don't
have to shell out for the gauge!
The Dirtyman
RAY MCNAIRY
cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> I get that once I wear through the cord I'm risking a blowout, but since the
> cord is only showing on the outer edge on the tire and it's not more than
> about half an inch wide, even though it shows almost around the whole tire,
> I still think that I could get away with realignment because the rest of the
> tire still shows tread even though maybe not the legal amount. Besides,
> front end alignment $19.95, two new tires $400. See the difference? Trust
> me, if I had $400 I would get a new set of tires but I don't. I was also
> thinking that if I swap places of the tires so that the cord is on the
> inside where there isn't any wear that would work too, right? And how could
> the realignment only last for a couple of weeks anyway?
Sure hope you don't live in Calif as I don't want you anywhere close to me. At
least put them on the rears so you will have some slight degree of control when
they blow. NOT if but when they blow. I doubt if an alignment shop that's
close to being responsible would touch it.
nos...@e.org
Rand McNatt
>This must be a joke. Nobody is that stupid
It's worse than that. There is organized stupid going on. Just down
the street here is a place that _rents_ used tires. The idea is, you
rent a half-decent set of rubber, get your annual safety inspection,
then mount the old sh*t back on your (probably uninsured) vehicle. The
place is just a few blocks down from the insurance-by-the-week store.
Happy motoring...
Rand
Chris
Rand McNatt wrote in message <36981b63...@news.arn.net>...
Chris Ross
cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> I get that once I wear through the cord I'm risking a blowout, but since the
> cord is only showing on the outer edge on the tire and it's not more than
> about half an inch wide, even though it shows almost around the whole tire,
> I still think that I could get away with realignment because the rest of the
> tire still shows tread even though maybe not the legal amount. Besides,
> front end alignment $19.95, two new tires $400. See the difference? Trust
> me, if I had $400 I would get a new set of tires but I don't. I was also
> thinking that if I swap places of the tires so that the cord is on the
> inside where there isn't any wear that would work too, right? And how could
> the realignment only last for a couple of weeks anyway?
If your wheels are towed in so bad that your tires look like this /--\ and the
worn parts would not contact the road, you seriously need to get another car.
Preferably an Escort....
Nathan J Nagel
> I get that once I wear through the cord I'm risking a blowout, but since the
> cord is only showing on the outer edge on the tire and it's not more than
> about half an inch wide, even though it shows almost around the whole tire,
> I still think that I could get away with realignment because the rest of the
> tire still shows tread even though maybe not the legal amount. Besides,
You don't have to wear through the whole tire, only a big enough spot to
let air out.
> front end alignment $19.95, two new tires $400. See the difference? Trust
Sure do. But I think you're missing the point here. Youve already got
a large investment in your car. It would be a shame to total your car
b/c you saved $400, don't you think?
> me, if I had $400 I would get a new set of tires but I don't. I was also
> thinking that if I swap places of the tires so that the cord is on the
> inside where there isn't any wear that would work too, right? And how could
> the realignment only last for a couple of weeks anyway?
Not that it won't last, but your tires aren't worn "square" so that the
alignment will be harder to set correctly.
Do yourself a favor, see if there isn't a junkyard or used tire store
near you that can sell you a pair of decent tires. I know there's a
couple of them in Cleveland and Pittsburgh, the two cities I've spend
most of my life in.
nate
>
> Ulf
>
Greg
RAY MCNAIRY wrote in message <36981421...@pacbell.net>...
>
>
>cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
>> I get that once I wear through the cord I'm risking a blowout, but since
the
>> cord is only showing on the outer edge on the tire and it's not more than
>> about half an inch wide, even though it shows almost around the whole
tire,
>> I still think that I could get away with realignment because the rest of
the
>> tire still shows tread even though maybe not the legal amount. Besides,
>> thinking that if I swap places of the tires so that the cord is on the
>> inside where there isn't any wear that would work too, right? And how
could
>> the realignment only last for a couple of weeks anyway?
>
At
>least put them on the rears so you will have some slight degree of control
when
>they blow. NOT if but when they blow. I doubt if an alignment shop
that's
>close to being responsible would touch it.
>--
>Delete either one of the 2's from my address to reply
>
>Ciao, Ray (Boomer) McNairy
> "624"
>"So many fools, so few comets!"
>
You have a misconception here.
>When a tire blows, or goes flat, there is much more control if it is on the
FRONT. Not the rear. Ask any roundy-round racer.
Nathan J Nagel
tire, i.. by "Chris"@worldnet.att.net
Now how the hell would that work? Used tires run about $25 per in the
areas I'm used to, you mean to tell me you can have tires mounted
(twice) for less enough than that to make it worthwhile? (everywhere
I've ever gone wants $10 per for mount/balance, OK so you only need one
balance job) Or is this just another example of stupid thinking?
nate
Mr. Ed
cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<36966D6F...@my-dejanews.com>...
>Hey!
>
my car costs almost $400 including mounting and
>tax. However I don't want to get a tire blowout or anything when I'm
>traveling down the highway at 90 mph.
>Any thoughts?
>
>Thanks,
>Ulf
hour on cords is tempting fate. But go ahead and do it , if you want to be
taken out of the gene pool.
Ed>Ontario.Canada
fl...@alaska.net
> >>This must be a joke. Nobody is that stupid
>> >It's worse than that. There is organized stupid going on. Just down
>> >the street here is a place that _rents_ used tires. The idea is, you
>> >rent a half-decent set of rubber, get your annual safety inspection,
>> >then mount the old sh*t back on your (probably uninsured) vehicle.
>
>Now how the hell would that work? Used tires run about $25 per in the
>areas I'm used to, you mean to tell me you can have tires mounted
>(twice) for less enough than that to make it worthwhile? (everywhere
>I've ever gone wants $10 per for mount/balance, OK so you only need one
>balance job) Or is this just another example of stupid thinking?
Well, the poster above SAID it was worse than stupid.....
On the other hand, how about this. Say I own a shop with a sporatic
tyre mounting business, and I buy 4 used tyres for $100, and mount
them on an old set of common wheels I paid $50 for. I "rent" them to
people for $10 each ( these people would probably never buy new tyres
from me anyway, so they are customers I would not ordinarily have ).
Then you re-mount the lousy tyres for another $5 each after they get
the inspection. That's $60 from each client, and I can turn the same
set of tyres four times a week, for $240 in one week, say $1000 per
month. That's a pretty fair return on the investment for the shop,
and I get to keep my tyre changing staff and equipment busy. Sounds
pretty smart to me.
The customer pays only $60, passes the inspection, can keep driving on
his lousy tyres, and doesn't have to buy a $200+ set of new rubber, so
he saves $140+. The losers are the new tyre dealers, and of course
the rest of us on the road who have to hope he doesn't hit us when the
tyres blow.
Jay T
BowlHead19
wear indicators, much less on a car that has tires that are showing cords.
Don Stauffer
>
> Now that I know the cord is showing I won't drive that fast, but I was
> referring to my normal freeway cruising speed. Now the fastest I drive is 60
> mph which is when I'm late for school, but that shouldn't be any problems
> since it's only a 5 minute city drive. BTW, is it really that serious? I
> mean the rest of the tire still has some thread left and if I could only get
> all the wear of the places where the cord is showing I figured I'll be all
> right. I'm more worried that if I get pulled over by a cop and he sees it,
> he'll turn evil...
>
> Ulf
>
>
> > 90 MPH with cord showing on a *front* tire?
> > Are you serious?
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > : Hey!
> >
> > : Today I noticed that my left front tire is worn down to the cord on a
> > : couple of places on the outer edge. I know it's not a good thing, but
> > : just how bad is it? I know it's due to a misalignment because it's the
> > : same on the other side, just not that bad. I will get a realignment of
> > : the front as soon as possible and I'm wondering if I have to buy new
> > : front tires at the same time? I don't have to get the car inspected
> > : until August and I was hoping to drive on the tires until then since a
> > : tax. However I don't want to get a tire blowout or anything when I'm
> > : traveling down the highway at 90 mph.
> > : Any thoughts?
> >
> > : Thanks,
> > : Ulf
> >
The problem is not loss of traction from less tread area, it is major
loss of traction in case of a blowout. If a tire blows on either end of
car you loose a substantial amount of steering. If the front blows, you
end up with MAJOR understeer. If the rear blows, you end up with MAJOR
oversteer. Either case frequently results in loss of control at freeway
speeds.
If the cords are showing you are tiny fractions of an inch away from a
blowout.
--
Don Stauffer in Minneapolis
home web site- http://home1.gte.net/stauffer/
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work email- stau...@htc.honeywell.com
Wolf
outfit in Melbourne (FL) that would take bald tires and cut "new"
grooves in them. They sold for $5. I knew this guy who would put them
on his mom's car after he'd run over something and didn't want to
shell out the "big bucks" for "real used tires". The damned things
would last about a week or until he or his mom ran over a rock in the
road. This went on until his big brother came home on vacation and
threw a fit. The tire outfit is still in business but I don't know if
they still sell "regrooves".
Yes, people are that stupid. I've seen 'em in action!
Wolf
On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 03:19:50 GMT, rand_remove_@_remove_arn.net (Rand
McNatt) wrote:
>On 9 Jan 1999 00:01:33 GMT, chil...@aol.com (Chili442) wrote:
>
>>This must be a joke. Nobody is that stupid
>
>It's worse than that. There is organized stupid going on. Just down
>the street here is a place that _rents_ used tires. The idea is, you
>rent a half-decent set of rubber, get your annual safety inspection,
cama...@my-dejanews.com
couple of places now and there is more rubber underneath, is there more layers of
cord too? I guess it's time to go out and buy a flashlight and a pair gloves just
in case I get a blowout soon. I remember the last time a got a blowout, 12:30 am a
Monday morning and I had school at 8 am, that really pissed me off. Of course it
was completely dark and not a streetlight in sight so I couldn't see what the hell
I was doing. And when changing the tire I got my hands dirty so the day after I
noticed fingerprints all over the interior of the car. I'm going to be better
prepared next time...
Ulf
Yip Yu
parts (if any) and align the wheels.
Look at the previous posts to this thread. Everyone knows you're an
accident waiting to happen and you continue to drive and "wear through a
couple of places."
If (or rather, when) you have the accident, I sure hope that I'm nowhere
near your camaro!
You also mention you don't like changing tires at 1230AM in the dark and
soiling the interior. Simple solution: Go to the tire shop BEFORE you
get a blowout and wreck.
I hope you don't interpret this as a flame. It's just extremely unfair to
innocent people that get tangled with your camaro WHEN you do wreck. Hope
you don't kill or injure anyone including yourself.
cama...@my-dejanews.com
the tires quit. But I'll start to shop around for new tires later this week or next
week. I'll see if I can scrape together enough money to buy another pair of Firehawk
SZ50 so I'll have the same tires on all four wheels.
Many thanks to all the people who responded to my original post and it's almost amazing
how everybody had the same opinion. :-)
Thanks,
Ulf
Jeffrey J. Potoff
>
> I get that once I wear through the cord I'm risking a blowout, but since the
> cord is only showing on the outer edge on the tire and it's not more than
> about half an inch wide, even though it shows almost around the whole tire,
> tire still shows tread even though maybe not the legal amount. Besides,
> front end alignment $19.95, two new tires $400. See the difference? Trust
> me, if I had $400 I would get a new set of tires but I don't. I was also
> thinking that if I swap places of the tires so that the cord is on the
> inside where there isn't any wear that would work too, right? And how could
> the realignment only last for a couple of weeks anyway?
This has got to be a troll. A guy with a $20,000 Z28 is too cheap to
put down $400 in tires so it'll stay on the road. If you're serious,
the best thing you can do is sell the Z and use the money for a bus
pass.
Jeff
Roy G. Bragg
when that bad tire lets go at 90 and you veer into oncoming traffic as a
result of losing control of the car.
Roy
Yip Yu wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jan 1999 cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> > Hey!
> >
> > Today I noticed that my left front tire is worn down to the cord on a
> > couple of places on the outer edge. I know it's not a good thing, but
> > just how bad is it? I know it's due to a misalignment because it's the
> > same on the other side, just not that bad. I will get a realignment of
> > the front as soon as possible and I'm wondering if I have to buy new
> > front tires at the same time? I don't have to get the car inspected
> > until August and I was hoping to drive on the tires until then since a
> > new pair of tires for my car costs almost $400 including mounting and
> > tax. However I don't want to get a tire blowout or anything when I'm
> > traveling down the highway at 90 mph.
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ulf
> >
> > '97 Camaro Z28 6-speed
> >
> >
> >
> Cords showing is bad news. Suggest check for bad shocks/struts, worn
> suspension parts, wheel bearings and correct before tire replacement and
> alignment.
>
> If you think the cost of new tires are expensive, what's the cost of a
> replacement camaro when the car gets wrapped around a tree? Also, should
> not be going 90 mph with cords exposed (A common sense thing for you I
> hope!)
Roy G. Bragg
worse. Radial tires take a set on rotational direction, and switching sides
would reverse the rotation direction causing the belt/cords to separate much
faster. I would take the car to the tire store immediately, after all, safety
should come at all costs.
Roy
cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> I get that once I wear through the cord I'm risking a blowout, but since the
> cord is only showing on the outer edge on the tire and it's not more than
> about half an inch wide, even though it shows almost around the whole tire,
> I still think that I could get away with realignment because the rest of the
> tire still shows tread even though maybe not the legal amount. Besides,
> front end alignment $19.95, two new tires $400. See the difference? Trust
> me, if I had $400 I would get a new set of tires but I don't. I was also
> thinking that if I swap places of the tires so that the cord is on the
> inside where there isn't any wear that would work too, right? And how could
> the realignment only last for a couple of weeks anyway?
>
> Ulf
>
> Nathan J Nagel wrote:
>
> > Excerpts from netnews.rec.autos.tech: 8-Jan-99 Cord showing on tire, is
> > th.. by cama...@my-dejanews.co
> > >
> > > Hey!
> > >
> > > Today I noticed that my left front tire is worn down to the cord on a
> > > couple of places on the outer edge. I know it's not a good thing, but
> > > just how bad is it? I know it's due to a misalignment because it's the
> > > same on the other side, just not that bad. I will get a realignment of
> > > the front as soon as possible and I'm wondering if I have to buy new
> > > front tires at the same time? I don't have to get the car inspected
> > > until August and I was hoping to drive on the tires until then since a
> > > new pair of tires for my car costs almost $400 including mounting and
> > > tax. However I don't want to get a tire blowout or anything when I'm
> > > traveling down the highway at 90 mph.
> > > Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ulf
> > >
> > > '97 Camaro Z28 6-speed
> >
falco...@my-dejanews.com
Chris Ross <pragm...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>
> cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> > I get that once I wear through the cord I'm risking a blowout, but since the
> > cord is only showing on the outer edge on the tire and it's not more than
> >
Uhm, $425 for tires/alignment. Is your insurance deductable $500? You might
want to save $75 (and maybe your life or mine) and swap 'em out. How much for
the lawsuit if you did cause damage/injury/death because of a KNOWN dangerous
vehicle condition?
-falconfixer-
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falco...@my-dejanews.com
cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Exactly how thick is the layer of cord? I think I've worn through the cord on
a
> couple of places now and there is more rubber underneath, is there more layers
of
> cord too? I guess it's time to go out and buy a flashlight and a pair gloves
just
> in case I get a blowout soon. I remember the last time a got a blowout, 12:30
am a
> Monday morning and I had school at 8 am, that really pissed me off. Of course
it
> was completely dark and not a streetlight in sight so I couldn't see what the
hell
> I was doing. And when changing the tire I got my hands dirty so the day after
I
> noticed fingerprints all over the interior of the car. I'm going to be better
> prepared next time...
>
> Ulf
I *can't* be the only one thinking at this point: "Why not put the spare on
now - at your convenience? Keep the totally worn out tire as a spare to be
replaced later."
In the vernacular of our youth today:
duh.
cama...@my-dejanews.com
feels like the car only has 3½ wheels...
I got my alignment checked today, the car had _way_ to much toe in which is what
caused the tires to wear out that fast and apparently an alignment for my car costs
$39.95 not $19.95 as I heard before. And the tires costs $160 a piece.
He guessed the car came miss aligned from the factory, according to him that was
usual and you should have it checked or you would have to buy new tires very soon.
(Like me.) When I asked the guy how many miles I had left on my front tires he just
laughed and said that I was down to the nylon now and below that there was some
metal layer and below that there was nothing.
Ulf
Steve Gerland
Troll Alert.
We been had...
Nathan J Nagel
tire, i.. by cama...@my-dejanews.co
> Because my Camaro came with a small "doughnut" spare, and when driving
on that
> it
> feels like the car only has 3½ wheels...
> I got my alignment checked today, the car had _way_ to much toe in
which is wh
> at
> caused the tires to wear out that fast and apparently an alignment for
my car
> costs
Have you ever smacked a curb? That could do it too. But if not, that
really bites, I feel your pain. You shouldn't have to align a new car.
But good luck trying to get any help from GM. You might want to check
the lit. that came with your car though, you might be able to get new
tires from whoever originally supplied them at a discount, depending on
how many miles are on your tires currently. (I'm assuming you still
have the factory tires on there.) Generally tires are supplied with a
treadwear warranty (30-60K miles, depending on the tire) and
replacements are prorated if the tires wear down to the bars before that
mileage.
> $39.95 not $19.95 as I heard before. And the tires costs $160 a piece.
> He guessed the car came miss aligned from the factory, according to
him that w
> as
> usual and you should have it checked or you would have to buy new
tires very s
> oon.
> (Like me.) When I asked the guy how many miles I had left on my front
tires he
> just
> laughed and said that I was down to the nylon now and below that there
was som
> e
> metal layer and below that there was nothing.
Well, I guess you know what you have to do now. Um, sorry? But since
your alignment guy found excessive toe and hopefully corrected it, your
new (or at least less worn) tires should last longer this time around.
nate
>
> Ulf
cama...@my-dejanews.com
the car the steering was off center, to get the car to go straight you had
to hold the steering wheel at about 2 o'clock. Of course I complained and
they fixed it, or so I thought... The lazy assholes down at the dealer
probably didn't give a shit about what caused the problem, the just wanted
the car to go straight the cheapest and easiest way possible. The tire
warranty only lasts for 12 months, I checked that when I got the blowout
(described in an other post). I don't even have 10,000 miles on the car and
I've already had to buy new rear tires 'cause of the blowout and now I have
to buy new front tires as well. This car is almost costing me more money in
tires than gas.
Thanks,
Ulf
mini...@home.com
Like I said befoe.
If you can't, afford new tires, then taake your car off the road.
I don't exactly like the idea of having my family killed by some cheap
fuck who "can't afford new tires, but can afford an alignment !
Get a fucking life poser
falco...@my-dejanews.com
cama...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> I think I've figured out how the car can be that miss aligned. When I bought
> the car the steering was off center, to get the car to go straight you had
> to hold the steering wheel at about 2 o'clock. Of course I complained and
> they fixed it, or so I thought... The lazy assholes down at the dealer
> probably didn't give a shit about what caused the problem, the just wanted
> the car to go straight the cheapest and easiest way possible. The tire
> warranty only lasts for 12 months, I checked that when I got the blowout
> (described in an other post). I don't even have 10,000 miles on the car and
> I've already had to buy new rear tires 'cause of the blowout and now I have
> to buy new front tires as well. This car is almost costing me more money in
> tires than gas.
>
> Thanks,
> Ulf
I'll bet the dealership simply removed your steering wheel and re-clocked it.
I hope you get some compensation out of this...
This is just ANOTHER reason for me to drive PAST a GM dealership! I can't
stand the corporate arrogance!
Pete Prunskunas
tires had 1/3 tread left on them, but one of them was out-of-round. They
didn't sell tires, so it was no scam. I was okay with the news, bad tires
are dangerous, get rid of them! They charged me nothing, too.
Pete
Pete Prunskunas
30-35 MPH. You are contemplating going twice that fast. The potential
energy is a *lot* more than double.
You asked for opinions and you got them. Did you realize that *no one*
told you that it was okay? Doesn't a 100% vote mean anything to you?
The poster who told you to get used tires probably has the best solution.
Go to a junkyard and find tires that are the same in every dimension. I am
sure there is another Camaro in the junkyard that was wrecked when the
driver was too cheap to replace a safety hazard.
Pete
PaulShook
> referring to my normal freeway cruising speed. Now the fastest I drive is 60
> mph which is when I'm late for school, but that shouldn't be any problems
> since it's only a 5 minute city drive. BTW, is it really that serious? I
> mean the rest of the tire still has some thread left and if I could only get
> all the wear of the places where the cord is showing I figured I'll be all
> right. I'm more worried that if I get pulled over by a cop and he sees it,
> he'll turn evil...>>
Is this a trick question? Are you just testing us or what?
Pete Prunskunas
Obviously, there must be reputable, competent dealers, but I have yet
to find one. I have had exceedingly good luck with Goodyear dealers.
I also happen to think they make the best tires, in general.
Pete
Nathan J Nagel
tire, i.. by cama...@my-dejanews.co
>
> the car the steering was off center, to get the car to go straight you had
> to hold the steering wheel at about 2 o'clock. Of course I complained and
> they fixed it, or so I thought... The lazy assholes down at the dealer
> probably didn't give a shit about what caused the problem, the just wanted
> the car to go straight the cheapest and easiest way possible. The tire
> warranty only lasts for 12 months, I checked that when I got the blowout
> (described in an other post). I don't even have 10,000 miles on the car and
> I've already had to buy new rear tires 'cause of the blowout and now I have
> to buy new front tires as well. This car is almost costing me more money in
> tires than gas.
>
> Ulf
Ten bucks says they didn't even put it on the rack, they just r&r'ed the
steering wheel. Someone probably smacked a curb (or similar object - it
can happen) before you got the car, or else the factory was having an
off day in the suspension and steering department.
You got fucked, my friend, but hopefully you've found a better place to
take your car.
later,
nate
cama...@my-dejanews.com
needed new tires badly. They also did an alignment check for free, and while
having the equipment installed on the tires they asked if I wanted an alignment
now or if I wanted to wait. I choose to wait but will probably do it next week,
together with two new tires. I even got a printout of all the alignment angles,
not bad for paying nothing... I guess they're hoping that I will choose to buy
new tires and do the alignment at their place.
Ulf
Dan Raymond
>Answer:you drive too aggressivly. driving aggressivly with worn tires
>is EXTREMELY dangerous. replace the tires before you hurt your car,
>yourself or someone else.
I have seen very few drivers who are too aggressive. Mostly it's
timid clueless drivers who get in my way.
Graeme J Quinn
Can I have your VCR when you're dead?
Grae
John Schmidt
wrote:
>Can I have your VCR when you're dead?
>
>Grae
better of it. Since it will probably be all mangled and mingled with
the stuff in his chest cavity, I figure it will be too much time and
trouble to get it straightened and cleaned up. Since it's apparantly
too much time and trouble for him to have good tires put on his
vehicle, HE CAN JUST KEEP HIS STINKING FANCY STEERING WHEEL! I DON'T
WANT IT ANYMORE!
(As a matter of fact, I DO feel bettew now.)
Graeme J Quinn
wrote:
>HE CAN JUST KEEP HIS STINKING FANCY STEERING WHEEL! I DON'T
>WANT IT ANYMORE!
What? Not good enough for ya, eh? Just because it has a *little* bit
of brain matter smeared on it and a few teethmarks in it?
Perfectionist, are we?? ;-)
> (As a matter of fact, I DO feel better now.)
I don't! I haven't got his VCR yet! ;-)
Grae
cama...@my-dejanews.com
AIRBAG which prevents the head, body parts, etc. to hit the steering
wheel. And regarding my VCR, in your dreams! And for your information, I
don't intend to get into an accident either. Seriously though, I am
getting new tires, any day now... Especially after driving last Sunday
night when it was raining, that was scary. Anytime I drove faster than 45
mph or when I drove through a water puddle my car hydroplaned. I became
very aware of this in a sharp right hand corner, with a lot of oncoming
cars, that had stranded water on the roadway which I didn't see. Imagine
my surprise...
Ulf
Graeme J Quinn
>You're forgetting something, my car is equipped with a gadget called an
>AIRBAG which prevents the head, body parts, etc. to hit the steering
>wheel.
Oh, that's the device that protects you from being injured inside the
car by propelling you through the rear window upon impact? ;-)
>And regarding my VCR, in your dreams!
Awww - No fair! What about your CD player?
>And for your information, I don't intend to get into an accident either.
Nobody 'intends' to get in an accident (unless they wanna pull an
insurance scam!)... The main fear is that you ability to prevent an
accident is severely diminished when driving on the cords. Perhaps
more so than you originally though.
>Seriously though, I am getting new tires, any day now...
Good call. Looks like I'm gonna have to wait on that VCR...
Grae
R. Makul K1XV
to show, lower speeds are advisable.
P. J. Remner
In a previous article, cama...@my-dejanews.com () says:
>You're forgetting something, my car is equipped with a gadget called an
>AIRBAG which prevents the head, body parts, etc. to hit the steering
>wheel. And regarding my VCR, in your dreams! And for your information, I
>don't intend to get into an accident either. Seriously though, I am
>getting new tires, any day now... Especially after driving last Sunday
>night when it was raining, that was scary. Anytime I drove faster than 45
>mph or when I drove through a water puddle my car hydroplaned. I became
>very aware of this in a sharp right hand corner, with a lot of oncoming
>cars, that had stranded water on the roadway which I didn't see. Imagine
>my surprise...
Do you have Eagle GA tires? Just reminded me, some 'Maros had Eagle GA
tires. Stay away from Eagle GA tires. They suck on anything but dry
asphalt. Ask my insurance company, the city of Fairview Park, O, my
front bumper and pass-side fender, and the chain-link fence that Allstate
bought.
Damn GAs.
--
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"Mellow greetings, sir... what seems to be your boggle?"
P. J. Remner
In a previous article, williamx...@sympatico.ca (Mike Maguire) says:
>How could you wear your tires down to the belts on a '97 already?
>Answer:you drive too aggressivly. driving aggressivly with worn tires
>is EXTREMELY dangerous. replace the tires before you hurt your car,
>yourself or someone else.
>
Huh?
His car is two years old. It came with Goodyear Eagle RS-A tires.
I know these tires well, they're semi-sticky asymmetrical tires, and
typically last only 30-40k for most drivers. Are you saying that
15 to 20 thousand miles a year is unreasonable? I sure don't.
Oh, wait - a Z28. That comes with Z-rated Eagle GS-C tires. You're
lucky if you can even get 30k out of them puppies, and they are NOT
CHEAP (a cheap Z-rated asymmetrical directional tire? HA!).
Add the facts that a Z28 will naturally wear out the inner edge of
the front tires due to alignment specs (if you drive like a baby),
and I have yet to see a well-aligned Camaro from the factory, then
it's no wonder he needs new tires.
Yeah, $400 for front tires sounds about right....
cama...@my-dejanews.com
car aligned after the f-body specs. -.5 camber, max caster and zero toe. Sorry
you had to find out how bad the GAs are that way...
Ulf
"P. J. Remner" wrote.
> Do you have Eagle GA tires? Just reminded me, some 'Maros had Eagle GA
> tires. Stay away from Eagle GA tires. They suck on anything but dry
> asphalt. Ask my insurance company, the city of Fairview Park, O, my
> front bumper and pass-side fender, and the chain-link fence that Allstate
> bought.
>
> Damn GAs.
>
Dennis Andrew Blazewicz
: Add the facts that a Z28 will naturally wear out the inner edge of
: the front tires due to alignment specs (if you drive like a baby),
: and I have yet to see a well-aligned Camaro from the factory, then
: it's no wonder he needs new tires.
I believe this may be due to a largeish negative camber, to improve
handling. Don't quote me on it though.. :)
Dennis
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P. J. Remner
In a previous article, umbl...@news.cc.umanitoba.ca (Dennis Andrew Blazewicz) says:
>P. J. Remner (aj...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:
>: Add the facts that a Z28 will naturally wear out the inner edge of
>: the front tires due to alignment specs (if you drive like a baby),
>: and I have yet to see a well-aligned Camaro from the factory, then
>: it's no wonder he needs new tires.
>
> I believe this may be due to a largeish negative camber, to improve
>handling. Don't quote me on it though.. :)
>
Ask any Ford Taurus owner. Most of these cars, once the springs are
"set", have -1.0 to -1.8 degrees camber. And specified toe-out.
Tire eater deluxe.
I have -2.5 camber on the front of my RWD car, but I'm resigned to
rotating tires every 2,000 miles and replacing them every 10,000.
In sets of four. But oh, is it worth it!
cbov...@aol.com
kend...@outlook.com
AMuzi
> has anyone yet suggested swapping the bad front tires to the rear, for a reduction in the inevitable blow out catastrophe?
>
Only because this newly purchased 1966 had steel mesh
showing on one front (from misalignment) and I only need to
move it around a little before a major rebuild all around.
I would not do that for anything I would actually drive
regularly. Get it aligned and buy a set of tires.
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