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wel...@esu3.esu3.k12.ne.us
Craz...@esu3.esu3.k12.ne.us
Bill Ellis
> I dont think you can. not with out re adjusting the speedometer odometer
> and other systems. You may want to talk to a dealer or a master mechanic.
> because the 185 or 195 is the height of the tire in centimeters.
> I hope this helps you out.
I didn't read the original article, but the hight of the tire is never
expressed
as a millimeter measurement. In fact, it's never expressed as a explicit
number. Tires are given in terms of tread width, aspect ratio, and inner
diameter:
185 / 70 - 13
the 70 means that the sidewall is 70% of the tire width and the 13 means it
will fit a 13 inch diameter wheel.
Going from a 185 to a 195 tire shouldn't be a problem (a little bit wider)
if you go down in aspect ratio. In other words, if you go from the above
example of 185/70-13 to a 195 tire, it'll be something like a 195/60-13.
That'll maintain the same outside diameter (within 1%) of stock and
there won't be any speedometer changes necessary.
Go to a tire and wheel shop and they can explain and show you what I
mean.
>
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> Bill Ellis
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Incorrect. A tire that is labeled as "P205 60R14" is a passenger car tire
(P) that has a nominal section width (cross section) of 205 millimeters
(205), a nominal sidewall height that is 60% of the section width (60), is
a radial construction (R) and is made for a 14" rim (14). There are
variations including speed ratings (e.g. ...60ZR...) and some tires
nowadays don't include some things like the R (radial) spec, but the
basics are here.
If you went from a 185 to a 195 and stayed at the same series tire, then
yes there would be an increase in loaded radius. However, when increasing
the section width of a tire, generally you can go to the next lower series
and end up at the same height. You can also change rim diameter and do
the same thing. It's called "plus-1" or "plus-2" etc. If for example
I took my Z24 and mounted some cool 16 inch Momo rims, I'd probably
have to go from the current P205 60R14 to something like a P225 40R16 or
even a P225 35R16 (if they made such a thing).
In answer to the original poster's question, go ahead and change the
damn tires. It'll be fine. If you were going from a 185 to a 225 or
something I'd be concerned then!
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WHAT????
185 and 195 refer to the WIDTH of the tire. By appropriately adjusting the
sidewall height, you shouldn't have any problem.
Example: I have 185/60HR14's on my car. 195/55HR14's would be close to the
same height since you are decreasing sidewall percentage height, but the
sidewall height is based on the width (something like 195 wide, 55% of 195
tall). Oh, and tires are measured in MILLIMETERS. Do you not realize how wide
195 centimeters is?
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Jon Peccarelli
jon...@csd.uwm.edu
'91 Nissan Sentra SE-R
"All go and hardly any show."
I calculated the increase in diameter:
185/75R14: diameter=63.17 cm
195/75R14: diameter=64.67 cm
So it shouldn't be a big factor concerning the speedo.
When speedo says 65, I am actually doing 66.5. Taking account
that speedo usually is 1-2 miles above actual speed, I might just
be doing 65.
troy
>Going from a 185 to a 195 tire shouldn't be a problem (a little bit wider)
>if you go down in aspect ratio. In other words, if you go from the above
>example of 185/70-13 to a 195 tire, it'll be something like a 195/60-13.
>That'll maintain the same outside diameter (within 1%) of stock and
>there won't be any speedometer changes necessary.
>Go to a tire and wheel shop and they can explain and show you what I
>mean.
You don't even need to worry about profile with a change as small as
this. Example: 195/60 on a 14 inch rim has a diameter only 2% more than
a 185/60 on the same rim. Most speedos are about 5-10% out in the first
place!
Ian
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Ian Crocker i...@btcase.bt.co.uk
In a previous article, EZ...@BNR.CA (Eric Zeto) says:
>In article <3blqm1$j...@news.nde.state.ne.us>, wel...@esu3.esu3.k12.ne.us
>(Bill -=Crazyace=- Ellis) wrote:
>
>> I dont think you can. not with out re adjusting the speedometer odometer
>> and other systems. You may want to talk to a dealer or a master mechanic.
>> because the 185 or 195 is the height of the tire in centimeters.
>> I hope this helps you out.
>
>I didn't read the original article, but the hight of the tire is never
>expressed
>as a millimeter measurement. In fact, it's never expressed as a explicit
>number. Tires are given in terms of tread width, aspect ratio, and inner
>diameter:
>
> 185 / 70 - 13
>
>the 70 means that the sidewall is 70% of the tire width and the 13 means it
>will fit a 13 inch diameter wheel.
>
>Going from a 185 to a 195 tire shouldn't be a problem (a little bit wider)
>if you go down in aspect ratio. In other words, if you go from the above
>example of 185/70-13 to a 195 tire, it'll be something like a 195/60-13.
>That'll maintain the same outside diameter (within 1%) of stock and
>there won't be any speedometer changes necessary.
>Go to a tire and wheel shop and they can explain and show you what I
>mean.
>
Many tire shops have books which list the actual diameter of different
tires & sizes - it's much easier than working it out.
For instance I was comparing 195-55-14 with 185-60-14 and (depending on
the brand and tread depth) easily saw from my tire dealer's books that
the actual diameters were within about 1/4" - not worth worrying
about as far as the speedo is concerned.
Now, if only I could figure out how to go with a wider tire without the
tire rubbing on suspension parts...
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Andre Hallam
Kanata, Ontario
CANADA
ac...@freenet.carleton.ca
This makes me very confused. 185 cm or 195 cm is 6+ feet.
the number is the *width* in milimeters
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george
geo...@mech.seas.upenn.edu
: This makes me very confused. 185 cm or 195 cm is 6+ feet.
Isn't this sci.pickup.4wd.bigfoot.jjmachoballs. ????
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Dick Brewster dbre...@netcom.com
This is correct for this sizing system. But in the US, truck tires are
available by height, width and rim size... 30X9.50-15.
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