Lucas Oil to quiet P/S Pump

[phaeton]

Previously, in this group I asked about quieting the power steering
pump on my 99 Ranger. (I tried to reply to that thread instead of
starting another, but I don't see it posted)

Mine's a little more intense than most plastic-bodied pumps....
basically, when my truck goes by it sounds like a
Star Wars TIE Fighter. The pump isn't bad, as it works just fine, the
fluid isn't full of metal, and well... it's been a screamer for over
150K
miles and hasn't blown up yet.

I've been suggested the Lucas Oil P/S pump "Stop Leak" by a few people
(it doesn't leak, it's just noisy). I finally got around to doing
that, but after a week and 100 miles, I hear no difference. Does it
take awhile, or does it take more than a 12oz bottle to STFU?

Thanks

-J

[Scott Dorsey]

phaeton <blahb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I've been suggested the Lucas Oil P/S pump "Stop Leak" by a few people
>(it doesn't leak, it's just noisy). I finally got around to doing
>that, but after a week and 100 miles, I hear no difference. Does it
>take awhile, or does it take more than a 12oz bottle to STFU?

That's a product that makes the seals swell up, to seal up a leaking
system. I don't know why it would do anything to quiet a noisy pump.

Also, though, make sure it IS the pump and not the belt that drives it.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Kruse]

On Nov 20, 12:36 pm, phaeton <blahbleh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Previously, in this group I asked about quieting the power steering
> pump on my 99 Ranger.  

Flush it out and replace it with a synthetic Dexron, like Mobil 1.
Then add some Lube Guard Red. This combination will get it as quiet as
you are going to get. Remember that there is no one single magic fluid
for some of these pumps, other than to replacement with a genuine Ford
reman. And they're not cheap.
They have a TSB out on why their pumps are better.

[hls]

"phaeton" <blahb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I've been suggested the Lucas Oil P/S pump "Stop Leak" by a few people
> (it doesn't leak, it's just noisy). I finally got around to doing
> that, but after a week and 100 miles, I hear no difference. Does it
> take awhile, or does it take more than a 12oz bottle to STFU?
>
> Thanks
>

I wouldnt have added StopLeak if it were not leaking.
Does it screech when you are going straight ahead? Have you looked at the
fluid in the cannister to see if it is full of bubbles (gas cut)?

There can be several issues that will make a power steering screech, and
I dont feel you have addressed the cause with this Lucas material.

[phaeton]

On Nov 21, 10:10 am, "hls" <h...@nospam.nix> wrote:
> "phaeton" <blahbleh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

I wouldn't call it a "screech", but more a moaning sound. It's very
much a hydraulic pump sound, not like a belt slipping or a pressure
relief valve (like when you turn the wheel all the way). I hear
similar sounds from other hydraulic action, like backhoes and bucket
loaders and things. The sound is matched to engine RPM, and if this
were a V8 you'd think it had a gear-drive timing set. Moving the
wheel back and forth doesn't change the sound much, only the pitch
changes a little with engine RPM.

The fluid level is correct and there are no bubbles. As I said
before, it doesn't leak and the system all works just fine, it just
makes a very distinctive howl. This howl developed around 10K miles,
and has remained the same even though a few parts have been replaced
over the years, such as water pump, alternator, idler pulleys, fan
clutch, timing belt and a serpentine belt. When it first started, I
took it in to have the dealer look into it, and they said "for plastic-
bodied pumps, this is normal".

Thanks

[Paul]

Possible pressure relief valve problem. See if there is a kit available.

[hls]

"phaeton" <blahb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Thanks

******
Well, Ive had that happen, and am sorry to say that I just rode with it.
If it fails, fix it: if not, put up with it until you get tired of it.
If you lose power steering assist, it can take some muscle, but a moderately
strong man can handle it. If you have a child, a girl, a wife, who drives
this,
you might want to react more expeditiously.

[cuh...@webtv.net]

About thirty something years ago, I read somewhere in an auto magazine
that some of those stopleak additives have shellac in them.They might
work ok for a while, untill the shellac starts drying out.
I wouldn't trust any of those ''snake oils''.
cuhulin

[hls]

<cuh...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Technology has moved forward somewhat. Sometimes additives do a good job,
but I think this is a misapplication.

[phaeton]

Kruse,

So you're saying synthetic is the solution? What is this Lube Guard
Red?

thx

-J