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Bruce Bowling

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Jan 31, 1994, 5:29:46 PM1/31/94
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Can someone tell me if they have performed the
popular swapping out of jaguar engines with
Chevy 350's, or has driven a car after such
a mod??? My Jag (DOHC 6) has water in the
oil, and I would much prefer an american
engine (for maintainability and part cost
reasons). there are several folks who
offer such conversion kits, from 350.00
to 1500.00 - who makes a quality kit??

Thanks - Bruce

Marcus Bonse

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Feb 1, 1994, 3:30:13 AM2/1/94
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In article <CKIMH...@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> bow...@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (Bruce Bowling) writes:

>Can someone tell me if they have performed the
>popular swapping out of jaguar engines with

After you have performed the swap, mail the engine to me! :-)
Marcus Bonse email: m.h.w...@wbmt.tudelft.nl
Delft University of Technology
Lab. for Micro Engineering

Grayson Walker

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Feb 1, 1994, 7:19:00 PM2/1/94
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>>Can someone tell me if they have performed the
>>popular swapping out of jaguar engines with
>>Chevy 350's, or has driven a car after such
>>a mod???

A friend did this to an XJ-12 with a siezed engine. He went for a
305 instead of a 350. As the AW article said, it looks like a factory
job. It fits and if it were designed to fit. The kit took care of
the "details", like A/C, P/S, etc. It runs fine, but since the V-8
is lighter than the V-12, the car sits higher in the front -- even
with adjustments.

Of course, value is gone, but then there's not much value in an
old XJ-12 with a siezed engine, is there? The biggest difference is
that you won't have oil spots under the car.
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Christopher Jamieson

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Feb 1, 1994, 7:57:54 PM2/1/94
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In article <CKIMH...@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> bow...@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (Bruce Bowling) writes:
>From: bow...@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (Bruce Bowling)
>Subject: Small block Chevy in Jaguar??
>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 22:29:46 GMT

>
>Can someone tell me if they have performed the
>popular swapping out of jaguar engines with
>Chevy 350's, or has driven a car after such
>a mod??? My Jag (DOHC 6) has water in the
>oil, and I would much prefer an american
>engine - who makes a quality kit??

Try contacting Johns Cars in Dallas. Their kits are very
comprehensive,right down to the wiring harness to match your year and model
of chassis to the engine of your choice.

As to the value of your Jag I wouldn't worry. I have seen many ads
in newspapers from people requesting Jags with V8's. After servicing Jags
for 6 years I would never own one with the original powerplant. The sixes
are gutless and the twelves are much to expensive to maintain.

The V8 will give you freedom from the problems and give the car the
torque that it needs to accelerate like it should (even over the 12!)

For the Jag purists out there Johns Cars has a huge supply of "
Broken Kitty" parts taken off cars they have swapped motors in. A good
source of parts is a prerequisit to owning a Jag.

Ted Crum

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Feb 3, 1994, 12:21:46 AM2/3/94
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The gears inside a Jag rearend are the same as in the 289 Cobra. I used
to work for a guy who raced two of them. Might be same on 427, too.

Grayson Walker

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Feb 6, 1994, 9:39:13 AM2/6/94
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Andy Dingley <din...@codesmth.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>What you *mean* is that you poor Yanks live in a country where the mechanics
>can't count above 8 cylinders and haven't learnt the plural of "camshaft".
>If you want to mangle a Gentleman's Motor so that your shade tree mechanics
>can fix it without too much damage, why stop at an engine swap ? Fit some
>leaf springs ! Get some drum brakes on the front ! Take the headlamps off !
>See if Connolly can upholster it in Naugahyde for you !

> Craftsmanship is wasted on some continents....

These words from the man who want to install a HOLLY carburettor on
a Roll Royce B81 Mk 8b. What we have here, is a case of RCI.

Andy Dingley

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Feb 5, 1994, 3:03:17 PM2/5/94
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In article <2is7tp$5...@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
sc...@psy.uwa.oz.au "Scott Fisher" writes:
> > [Some Detroit spanner.head trying to ruin a good car]
> Any US V8 is agricultural in comparison.

"agricultural"

Agricultural.

Now *thats* the word I was looking for.


The Jag 6 gutless ? Tell that to a Scorpion tank ! (it's faster than a
gas turbine powered Abrams)

The Jag back end prone to breakage ? Oh come off it ! That's why the roads
are full of broken down TWRs & Lister XJSs ?

What you *mean* is that you poor Yanks live in a country where the mechanics
can't count above 8 cylinders and haven't learnt the plural of "camshaft".
If you want to mangle a Gentleman's Motor so that your shade tree mechanics
can fix it without too much damage, why stop at an engine swap ? Fit some
leaf springs ! Get some drum brakes on the front ! Take the headlamps off !
See if Connolly can upholster it in Naugahyde for you !

Craftsmanship is wasted on some continents....

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Andy Dingley Codesmiths of Newcastle din...@codesmth.demon.co.uk

JAMES DALEY

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Feb 5, 1994, 10:35:06 PM2/5/94
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din...@codesmth.demon.co.uk (Andy Dingley) writes:

> "agricultural"

> Agricultural.

As long as you are telling us what to do, why don't you ask the queen how the
colonies are doing? We are just fine under the shade tree thanks. As far as
British cars...what can they do that Italy can't do better?
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Sivasankar Chandler

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Feb 7, 1994, 2:40:46 PM2/7/94
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JAMES DALEY (jda...@herbie.unl.edu) wrote:

: din...@codesmth.demon.co.uk (Andy Dingley) writes:
: >In article <2is7tp$5...@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
: > sc...@psy.uwa.oz.au "Scott Fisher" writes:

<much good stuff deleted>

: colonies are doing? We are just fine under the shade tree thanks. As far as


: British cars...what can they do that Italy can't do better?

Much as I dislike participating in a flame war, the AJ6 is velvet during
idle, and silk at 140 kmph, even when pulling a 2000 kg car. Many of the
early reliability problems pertained to the carbs. The Series III FI models
have solved many of the early problems. They are still expensive to repair,
though.

Siva Chander
"I speak for myself, not for my employer(s)"

Cliff Lum

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Feb 8, 1994, 3:57:29 AM2/8/94
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> Sivasankar Chandler writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <CKvDC...@austin.ibm.com>
> Posted: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 19:40:46
> Org. : IBM Austin


I read in the local paper years ago that someone did just that.
Put a small block 350 chevy engine in a Jaguar XJ6. A Lot more power for
going up the moutain highways. I think it was done because it was cheaper
than rebuilding the Jaguar engine.

cl

ELGAR the idiot aka Chris Warwick

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Feb 10, 1994, 9:43:37 AM2/10/94
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If you want to have some real fun with Jag owners, tell them the
next Jag will be based on the Crown Victoria platform...
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Bob Valentine

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Feb 13, 1994, 12:36:28 AM2/13/94
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In article <bakc.634....@giraffe.ru.ac.za> ba...@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR KR COMAN) writes:

> Second that 100%!!! My brother put a 305 in his '72 XJ-6 (worn out
>engine). Big red cat now goes like a rocket, better fuel consumption,
>cheaper service parts, and runs with total reliability. His big mistake tho
>was getting a second hand gearbox of unknown vintage -- copped out within
>months. If you go this route, make sure the slush-can is in top shape.

I thought the tranny in the older XJ's was Turbo 400; an almost
indestructible tranny....

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Scott Fisher

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Feb 13, 1994, 10:21:36 PM2/13/94
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rava...@gamera.syr.edu (Bob Valentine) writes:

>In article <bakc.634....@giraffe.ru.ac.za> ba...@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR KR COMAN) writes:

>> Second that 100%!!! My brother put a 305 in his '72 XJ-6 (worn out
>>engine). Big red cat now goes like a rocket, better fuel consumption,
>>cheaper service parts, and runs with total reliability. His big mistake tho
>>was getting a second hand gearbox of unknown vintage -- copped out within
>>months. If you go this route, make sure the slush-can is in top shape.

> I thought the tranny in the older XJ's was Turbo 400; an almost
>indestructible tranny....

The XJ12 uses the T400 - bullet-proof tranny, the XJ6 uses the Borg-Warner 65
(a much more fragile beast). Putting a V8 on the 65 is looking at 40K mile
rebuilds.

...however, we are here talking about 1972?...Hmmm...I can't remember when the
65 and T400 replaced the T12. Before the 2-tranny route there was
one-trans-fits-all phillosophy in the XJ range, the T12. This is a large
heavy trans that is in the indestructable category. It was dumped because it
was "heavy" and clunky...Jaguar wanted a smoother unit....not that the T400
isn't heavy compared to the 65 (renamed 66 in series III XJ6).

Even the XK engine has the 65 on the limits of it's tourque-handling-capacity
and it needs to be rebuilt something on the order of every 60-80K miles.

Scott.
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James W. Swonger

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Feb 14, 1994, 10:28:11 AM2/14/94
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This morning I pulled up next to an example which would knot the
bowels of the Jag purists; not only was the sound of a mildly cammed,
poorly tuned small block Chevy evident, but there was a fiberglass
cowl-induction hood scoop on this white XJ6; halfway through the
process of chrome->gold on the trim too.
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Feb 14, 1994, 10:48:20 AM2/14/94
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>From: sc...@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher)

>rava...@gamera.syr.edu (Bob Valentine) writes:
>
>>In article <bakc.634....@giraffe.ru.ac.za> ba...@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR KR COMAN) writes:
>
>>> Second that 100%!!! My brother put a 305 in his '72 XJ-6 (worn out
>>>engine). Big red cat now goes like a rocket, better fuel consumption,
>>>cheaper service parts, and runs with total reliability. His big mistake tho
>>>was getting a second hand gearbox of unknown vintage -- copped out within
>>>months. If you go this route, make sure the slush-can is in top shape.
>
>> I thought the tranny in the older XJ's was Turbo 400; an almost
>>indestructible tranny....
>
>The XJ12 uses the T400 - bullet-proof tranny, the XJ6 uses the Borg-Warner 65
>(a much more fragile beast). Putting a V8 on the 65 is looking at 40K mile
>rebuilds.


Ooops, sorry -- I should clarify that point about the V8 conversion
and the tranny problem. The way the conversion was done involved the Chev
V8 and Chev transmission being put into the Jag -- the original Jag 'box was
a bit "marginal" to begin with, and it was just easier to install both
the US engine and 'box as a single unit in one fell swoop: cutting 'n
fettlin' the prop-shaft to suit. Interestingly, the engine was a used unit
brought out from the States (presumably as bilge ballast for a Liberian
slave ship) and needed a complete rebuild -- the 'tranny wasn't touched. We
figured that the motor was a '68 or '69 model that had been lying in a
Lousiana juck yard for yonks: it was pretty buggered. Anyway the motor
continues to run great, but as related the tranny crapped out (not too
surprisingly). My bro basically ran the tran until it was almost
undrivable, then took it in on an excellent rebuilt exchange unit -- a one
day swop over. (Today's parable: When doing a V8 conversion maybe think
about including the gearbox too -- the Jag item might not be up to the
extra power, etc. -- also getting a Chev service exchange tranny is likely
to be darn sight less costly than the Jag ori-ginal .. 'Ere endth the
lesson.)
Cheers,
Keith Coman

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