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micky
Sep 17, 2023, 11:27:20 PMSep 17
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I saw today what I think was a Subaru BRZ. Very pretty car (for a
sedan) but what made it unusual were the wheels. All 4 were splayed.
Isn't that the word when the bottoms of the wheels are farther from
center than the tops. I'm not talking about camber or caster or what
ever. These wheels looked like the whole ccar had been dropped 20 feet
and some of the parts holding the wheels in place had broken.
The driver said they were supposed to be like this, but the pictures
I've found on line have wheels like all the other cars.
This is a joint development with Toyota that calls it the 86 when they
sell/sold it.
Okay, it is camber, negative camber.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=car+with+splayed+wheels
Still this one was so extreme, and all 4 wheels.
sedan) but what made it unusual were the wheels. All 4 were splayed.
Isn't that the word when the bottoms of the wheels are farther from
center than the tops. I'm not talking about camber or caster or what
ever. These wheels looked like the whole ccar had been dropped 20 feet
and some of the parts holding the wheels in place had broken.
The driver said they were supposed to be like this, but the pictures
I've found on line have wheels like all the other cars.
This is a joint development with Toyota that calls it the 86 when they
sell/sold it.
Okay, it is camber, negative camber.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=car+with+splayed+wheels
Still this one was so extreme, and all 4 wheels.
The Real Bev
Sep 18, 2023, 1:41:41 AMSep 18
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On 9/17/23 8:27 PM, micky wrote:
> I saw today what I think was a Subaru BRZ. Very pretty car (for a
> sedan) but what made it unusual were the wheels. All 4 were splayed.
> Isn't that the word when the bottoms of the wheels are farther from
> center than the tops. I'm not talking about camber or caster or what
> ever. These wheels looked like the whole ccar had been dropped 20 feet
> and some of the parts holding the wheels in place had broken.
>
> The driver said they were supposed to be like this, but the pictures
> I've found on line have wheels like all the other cars.
>
> This is a joint development with Toyota that calls it the 86 when they
> sell/sold it.
'86' is restaurant slang for 'throw it away'.
> I saw today what I think was a Subaru BRZ. Very pretty car (for a
> sedan) but what made it unusual were the wheels. All 4 were splayed.
> Isn't that the word when the bottoms of the wheels are farther from
> center than the tops. I'm not talking about camber or caster or what
> ever. These wheels looked like the whole ccar had been dropped 20 feet
> and some of the parts holding the wheels in place had broken.
>
> The driver said they were supposed to be like this, but the pictures
> I've found on line have wheels like all the other cars.
>
> This is a joint development with Toyota that calls it the 86 when they
> sell/sold it.
> Okay, it is camber, negative camber.
>
> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=car+with+splayed+wheels
>
> Still this one was so extreme, and all 4 wheels.
traction during hard turns. Any form of “tilt” in tires is something
called the camber angle, and splaying the wheels like that is a negative
camber angle. Doing it the other way ( with the top out instead of the
bottom) is called positive camber."
If that were true, wouldn't serious race cars tilt their tires? I've
seen cars with tilted tires and it just looks stupid. Spend the money
on pretty neon under-car lights instead.
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Xeno
Sep 18, 2023, 5:04:05 AMSep 18
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negative - no benefit. Stancing of that order is all about the look.
Personally, to me it looks utterly ridiculous. The look of a wanker!
Modern wide low profile radial tyres work best when camber is close to
zero. IOW, keep all of the tread flat on the road. Minimises tyre wear too.
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅
Sep 18, 2023, 9:20:58 AMSep 18
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On 9/18/2023 5:04 AM, Xeno wrote:
> On 18/9/2023 1:27 pm, micky wrote:
>> I saw today what I think was a Subaru BRZ. Very pretty car (for a
>> sedan) but what made it unusual were the wheels. All 4 were splayed.
>> Isn't that the word when the bottoms of the wheels are farther from
>> center than the tops. I'm not talking about camber or caster or what
>> ever. These wheels looked like the whole ccar had been dropped 20 feet
>> and some of the parts holding the wheels in place had broken.
>>
>> The driver said they were supposed to be like this, but the pictures
>> I've found on line have wheels like all the other cars.
>>
>>
>> This is a joint development with Toyota that calls it the 86 when they
>> sell/sold it.
>>
>> Okay, it is camber, negative camber.
>>
>> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=car+with+splayed+wheels
>>
>>
>> Still this one was so extreme, and all 4 wheels.
>
> Yep, extreme negative camber and, in terms of handling, it's all
> negative - no benefit.
You are just like the British simpleton "Commander Kinsey" with no
> On 18/9/2023 1:27 pm, micky wrote:
>> I saw today what I think was a Subaru BRZ. Very pretty car (for a
>> sedan) but what made it unusual were the wheels. All 4 were splayed.
>> Isn't that the word when the bottoms of the wheels are farther from
>> center than the tops. I'm not talking about camber or caster or what
>> ever. These wheels looked like the whole ccar had been dropped 20 feet
>> and some of the parts holding the wheels in place had broken.
>>
>> The driver said they were supposed to be like this, but the pictures
>> I've found on line have wheels like all the other cars.
>>
>>
>> This is a joint development with Toyota that calls it the 86 when they
>> sell/sold it.
>>
>> Okay, it is camber, negative camber.
>>
>> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=car+with+splayed+wheels
>>
>>
>> Still this one was so extreme, and all 4 wheels.
>
> Yep, extreme negative camber and, in terms of handling, it's all
> negative - no benefit.
knowledge in Physics (or anything else).
All Formula One race cars have negative camber on all four tires.
The centrifugal force created when a race car is cornering will try to
flip the race car over. The centrifugal force acts on the centre of
gravity of the race car, through the point at the centre of the tyres on
the inner side of the turn, and the angle of the line connecting the
centre of the tyres to the point of contact with the road surface.
For normal cars with zero camber, the centre of the tyres are vertically
(90 degrees) above the road surface. If you can move that point of road
contact point farther out, that will make it more difficult for the
centrifugal force to flip the race car.
For simple minded Brits, just imagine when someone pushes you from the
side when you are standing at attention (both legs closed). It won't
take much to push you over. Now imagine someone pushes you from the side
when you are standing with your legs four feet apart. That will be very
difficult to push you over from the side.
> Stancing of that order is all about the look.
> Personally, to me it looks utterly ridiculous. The look of a wanker!
>
> Modern wide low profile radial tyres work best when camber is close to
> zero. IOW, keep all of the tread flat on the road. Minimises tyre wear
> too.
>
micky
Sep 18, 2023, 3:42:33 PMSep 18
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In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 18 Sep 2023 09:20:52 -0400, ? Mighty Wannabe
the stop sign in front of me, and the guy whose car it was said not a
word about racing.
Why are you so negative, so insulting to someone who didn't say a
negative word to you or to us?
? <@.> wrote:
>On 9/18/2023 5:04 AM, Xeno wrote:
>> On 18/9/2023 1:27 pm, micky wrote:
>>> I saw today what I think was a Subaru BRZ. Very pretty car (for a
>>> sedan) but what made it unusual were the wheels. All 4 were splayed.
>>> Isn't that the word when the bottoms of the wheels are farther from
>>> center than the tops. I'm not talking about camber or caster or what
>>> ever. These wheels looked like the whole ccar had been dropped 20 feet
>>> and some of the parts holding the wheels in place had broken.
>>>
>>> The driver said they were supposed to be like this, but the pictures
>>> I've found on line have wheels like all the other cars.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a joint development with Toyota that calls it the 86 when they
>>> sell/sold it.
>>>
>>> Okay, it is camber, negative camber.
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=car+with+splayed+wheels
>>>
>>>
>>> Still this one was so extreme, and all 4 wheels.
>>
>> Yep, extreme negative camber and, in terms of handling, it's all
>> negative - no benefit.
>
>
>You are just like the British simpleton "Commander Kinsey" with no
>knowledge in Physics (or anything else).
>
>All Formula One race cars have negative camber on all four tires.
He and I are talking about a street car, not a race car.
>On 9/18/2023 5:04 AM, Xeno wrote:
>> On 18/9/2023 1:27 pm, micky wrote:
>>> I saw today what I think was a Subaru BRZ. Very pretty car (for a
>>> sedan) but what made it unusual were the wheels. All 4 were splayed.
>>> Isn't that the word when the bottoms of the wheels are farther from
>>> center than the tops. I'm not talking about camber or caster or what
>>> ever. These wheels looked like the whole ccar had been dropped 20 feet
>>> and some of the parts holding the wheels in place had broken.
>>>
>>> The driver said they were supposed to be like this, but the pictures
>>> I've found on line have wheels like all the other cars.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a joint development with Toyota that calls it the 86 when they
>>> sell/sold it.
>>>
>>> Okay, it is camber, negative camber.
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=car+with+splayed+wheels
>>>
>>>
>>> Still this one was so extreme, and all 4 wheels.
>>
>> Yep, extreme negative camber and, in terms of handling, it's all
>> negative - no benefit.
>
>
>You are just like the British simpleton "Commander Kinsey" with no
>knowledge in Physics (or anything else).
>
>All Formula One race cars have negative camber on all four tires.
>
>The centrifugal force created when a race car is cornering will try to
>flip the race car over. The centrifugal force acts on the centre of
>gravity of the race car, through the point at the centre of the tyres on
>the inner side of the turn, and the angle of the line connecting the
>centre of the tyres to the point of contact with the road surface.
>
>For normal cars with zero camber, the centre of the tyres are vertically
>(90 degrees) above the road surface. If you can move that point of road
>contact point farther out, that will make it more difficult for the
>centrifugal force to flip the race car.
>
>For simple minded Brits, just imagine when someone pushes you from the
>side when you are standing at attention (both legs closed). It won't
>take much to push you over. Now imagine someone pushes you from the side
>when you are standing with your legs four feet apart. That will be very
>difficult to push you over from the side.
>
>
>> Stancing of that order is all about the look.
>
>You have a simple mind.
>
>> Personally, to me it looks utterly ridiculous. The look of a wanker!
>>
>
>You are the utterly stupid wanker!
>> Modern wide low profile radial tyres work best when camber is close to
>> zero. IOW, keep all of the tread flat on the road. Minimises tyre wear
>> too.
>>
>
>That's not good for racing, simpleton.
And he's not talking about racing and neither was I, and the car was at
>The centrifugal force created when a race car is cornering will try to
>flip the race car over. The centrifugal force acts on the centre of
>gravity of the race car, through the point at the centre of the tyres on
>the inner side of the turn, and the angle of the line connecting the
>centre of the tyres to the point of contact with the road surface.
>
>For normal cars with zero camber, the centre of the tyres are vertically
>(90 degrees) above the road surface. If you can move that point of road
>contact point farther out, that will make it more difficult for the
>centrifugal force to flip the race car.
>
>For simple minded Brits, just imagine when someone pushes you from the
>side when you are standing at attention (both legs closed). It won't
>take much to push you over. Now imagine someone pushes you from the side
>when you are standing with your legs four feet apart. That will be very
>difficult to push you over from the side.
>
>
>> Stancing of that order is all about the look.
>
>You have a simple mind.
>
>> Personally, to me it looks utterly ridiculous. The look of a wanker!
>>
>
>You are the utterly stupid wanker!
>> Modern wide low profile radial tyres work best when camber is close to
>> zero. IOW, keep all of the tread flat on the road. Minimises tyre wear
>> too.
>>
>
>That's not good for racing, simpleton.
the stop sign in front of me, and the guy whose car it was said not a
word about racing.
Why are you so negative, so insulting to someone who didn't say a
negative word to you or to us?
😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅
Sep 18, 2023, 7:26:52 PMSep 18
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On 9/18/2023 3:42 PM, micky wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 18 Sep 2023 09:20:52 -0400, ? Mighty Wannabe
> ? <@.> wrote:
>
>> On 9/18/2023 5:04 AM, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 18/9/2023 1:27 pm, micky wrote:
>>>> I saw today what I think was a Subaru BRZ. Very pretty car (for a
>>>> sedan) but what made it unusual were the wheels. All 4 were splayed.
>>>> Isn't that the word when the bottoms of the wheels are farther from
>>>> center than the tops. I'm not talking about camber or caster or what
>>>> ever. These wheels looked like the whole ccar had been dropped 20 feet
>>>> and some of the parts holding the wheels in place had broken.
>>>>
>>>> The driver said they were supposed to be like this, but the pictures
>>>> I've found on line have wheels like all the other cars.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is a joint development with Toyota that calls it the 86 when they
>>>> sell/sold it.
>>>>
>>>> Okay, it is camber, negative camber.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=car+with+splayed+wheels
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Still this one was so extreme, and all 4 wheels.
>>> Yep, extreme negative camber and, in terms of handling, it's all
>>> negative - no benefit.
>>
>> You are just like the British simpleton "Commander Kinsey" with no
>> knowledge in Physics (or anything else).
>>
>> All Formula One race cars have negative camber on all four tires.
> He and I are talking about a street car, not a race car.
Such people try to emulate the effect and look of negative camber on
> In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 18 Sep 2023 09:20:52 -0400, ? Mighty Wannabe
> ? <@.> wrote:
>
>> On 9/18/2023 5:04 AM, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 18/9/2023 1:27 pm, micky wrote:
>>>> I saw today what I think was a Subaru BRZ. Very pretty car (for a
>>>> sedan) but what made it unusual were the wheels. All 4 were splayed.
>>>> Isn't that the word when the bottoms of the wheels are farther from
>>>> center than the tops. I'm not talking about camber or caster or what
>>>> ever. These wheels looked like the whole ccar had been dropped 20 feet
>>>> and some of the parts holding the wheels in place had broken.
>>>>
>>>> The driver said they were supposed to be like this, but the pictures
>>>> I've found on line have wheels like all the other cars.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is a joint development with Toyota that calls it the 86 when they
>>>> sell/sold it.
>>>>
>>>> Okay, it is camber, negative camber.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=car+with+splayed+wheels
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Still this one was so extreme, and all 4 wheels.
>>> Yep, extreme negative camber and, in terms of handling, it's all
>>> negative - no benefit.
>>
>> You are just like the British simpleton "Commander Kinsey" with no
>> knowledge in Physics (or anything else).
>>
>> All Formula One race cars have negative camber on all four tires.
> He and I are talking about a street car, not a race car.
race cars.
people get the mod is to emulate the effect and look of a race car.
Jim Joyce
Sep 18, 2023, 11:05:12 PMSep 18
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 23:27:15 -0400, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
>I saw today what I think was a Subaru BRZ. Very pretty car (for a
>sedan) but what made it unusual were the wheels. All 4 were splayed.
>Isn't that the word when the bottoms of the wheels are farther from
>center than the tops.
Others have mentioned it, but it may have gotten lost in the considerable noise.
>I saw today what I think was a Subaru BRZ. Very pretty car (for a
>sedan) but what made it unusual were the wheels. All 4 were splayed.
>Isn't that the word when the bottoms of the wheels are farther from
>center than the tops.
The word you're looking for is stance. Do a Google image search for stanced cars
and you'll see what it's about.
Xeno
Sep 18, 2023, 11:11:27 PMSep 18
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On 18/9/2023 11:20 pm, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
> On 9/18/2023 5:04 AM, Xeno wrote:
>> On 18/9/2023 1:27 pm, micky wrote:
>>> I saw today what I think was a Subaru BRZ. Very pretty car (for a
>>> sedan) but what made it unusual were the wheels. All 4 were splayed.
>>> Isn't that the word when the bottoms of the wheels are farther from
>>> center than the tops. I'm not talking about camber or caster or what
>>> ever. These wheels looked like the whole ccar had been dropped 20 feet
>>> and some of the parts holding the wheels in place had broken.
>>>
>>> The driver said they were supposed to be like this, but the pictures
>>> I've found on line have wheels like all the other cars.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a joint development with Toyota that calls it the 86 when they
>>> sell/sold it.
>>>
>>> Okay, it is camber, negative camber.
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=car+with+splayed+wheels
>>>
>>> Still this one was so extreme, and all 4 wheels.
>>
>> Yep, extreme negative camber and, in terms of handling, it's all
>> negative - no benefit.
>
>
> You are just like the British simpleton "Commander Kinsey" with no
> knowledge in Physics (or anything else).
>
> All Formula One race cars have negative camber on all four tires.
Approx. 3 degrees negative at the front and between 0 and 1 degrees
> On 9/18/2023 5:04 AM, Xeno wrote:
>> On 18/9/2023 1:27 pm, micky wrote:
>>> I saw today what I think was a Subaru BRZ. Very pretty car (for a
>>> sedan) but what made it unusual were the wheels. All 4 were splayed.
>>> Isn't that the word when the bottoms of the wheels are farther from
>>> center than the tops. I'm not talking about camber or caster or what
>>> ever. These wheels looked like the whole ccar had been dropped 20 feet
>>> and some of the parts holding the wheels in place had broken.
>>>
>>> The driver said they were supposed to be like this, but the pictures
>>> I've found on line have wheels like all the other cars.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a joint development with Toyota that calls it the 86 when they
>>> sell/sold it.
>>>
>>> Okay, it is camber, negative camber.
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=car+with+splayed+wheels
>>>
>>> Still this one was so extreme, and all 4 wheels.
>>
>> Yep, extreme negative camber and, in terms of handling, it's all
>> negative - no benefit.
>
>
> You are just like the British simpleton "Commander Kinsey" with no
> knowledge in Physics (or anything else).
>
> All Formula One race cars have negative camber on all four tires.
negative at the rear. You won't visually see 1 degree of negative
camber. The front suspension changes in load under cornering will
increase or decrease camber by up to 5 degrees, the unloaded inner wheel
typically losing camber and becoming vertical whilst the outer wheel
will increase negative camber under cornering forces. The increase in
cornering forces places pressure on tyre sidewalls so that the tread
sits *flat* on the road. At the rear, traction is more important so less
negative camber is the order of the day. As well, rear tyres are
typically wider so too much negative camber will cause a *loss* in the
tyre contact area because the tyre will be running on and contacting on
only one side of the tread.
>
> The centrifugal force created when a race car is cornering will try to
> flip the race car over. The centrifugal force acts on the centre of
> gravity of the race car, through the point at the centre of the tyres on
> the inner side of the turn, and the angle of the line connecting the
> centre of the tyres to the point of contact with the road surface.
Sounds impressive but irrelevant to the negative camber. Oh, and there's
> The centrifugal force created when a race car is cornering will try to
> flip the race car over. The centrifugal force acts on the centre of
> gravity of the race car, through the point at the centre of the tyres on
> the inner side of the turn, and the angle of the line connecting the
> centre of the tyres to the point of contact with the road surface.
no such an animal as centrifugal force. It's just a convenient fiction
to explain *forces* to numbnuts like yourself.
>
> For normal cars with zero camber, the centre of the tyres are vertically
> (90 degrees) above the road surface. If you can move that point of road
> contact point farther out, that will make it more difficult for the
> centrifugal force to flip the race car.
Please try to understand the effect a lateral arm suspension has on
> For normal cars with zero camber, the centre of the tyres are vertically
> (90 degrees) above the road surface. If you can move that point of road
> contact point farther out, that will make it more difficult for the
> centrifugal force to flip the race car.
camber under cornering.
>
> For simple minded Brits, just imagine when someone pushes you from the
> side when you are standing at attention (both legs closed). It won't
> take much to push you over. Now imagine someone pushes you from the side
> when you are standing with your legs four feet apart. That will be very
> difficult to push you over from the side.
>
Again, sounds impressive but irrelevant when referencing negative
> For simple minded Brits, just imagine when someone pushes you from the
> side when you are standing at attention (both legs closed). It won't
> take much to push you over. Now imagine someone pushes you from the side
> when you are standing with your legs four feet apart. That will be very
> difficult to push you over from the side.
>
camber. What you should be focused on is the vehicle's roll centre
versus G of G.
>
>> Stancing of that order is all about the look.
>
> You have a simple mind.
>
>> Personally, to me it looks utterly ridiculous. The look of a wanker!
>>
>
> You are the utterly stupid wanker!
https://static1.hotcarsimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Stanced-Lexus-GS300-Cropped.jpg
>> Stancing of that order is all about the look.
>
> You have a simple mind.
>
>> Personally, to me it looks utterly ridiculous. The look of a wanker!
>>
>
> You are the utterly stupid wanker!
Now tell me that the car in the above link looks anything but
ridiculous? Sitting only on 50% or less of the tyre contact area and of
such a profile that, even with sidewall distortion, there's no hope of
ever getting 100% contact patch engagement so handling is *compromised*
at best and downright dangerous at worst.
>
>> Modern wide low profile radial tyres work best when camber is close to
>> zero. IOW, keep all of the tread flat on the road. Minimises tyre wear
>> too.
>>
>
> That's not good for racing, simpleton.
Then you clearly do not understand racing. The important factor in any
>> Modern wide low profile radial tyres work best when camber is close to
>> zero. IOW, keep all of the tread flat on the road. Minimises tyre wear
>> too.
>>
>
> That's not good for racing, simpleton.
sort of car handling is tyre contact area and tyre slip angles. When you
understand those two factors, come back and discuss it further. Thus far
all you've been doing is throwing irrelevant bullshit into the mix.
Basically, that tells me you do not have a clue about vehicle handling
be it in racing or road use.
FWIW, I've done more car wheel alignments than you've had hot dinners.
Xeno
Sep 18, 2023, 11:13:09 PMSep 18
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poseur cars.
micky
Sep 19, 2023, 12:55:57 PMSep 19
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In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 18 Sep 2023 19:26:46 -0400, ? Mighty Wannabe
Well, sure. But the topic is still street cars and insulting someone
for discussing a different topic from what you want to change it to is
more reprehensible than insulting someone who is misdiscussing the same
topic you are discussing.
Who said I can't figure it out? I already knew it. And even if I
didn't/couldn't, why are you so insulting? If you have indigestion,
take a TUMS. Every time you act like this, you lose credibility even
when you're behaving properly. Ask yourself why you call yourself a
wannabe.
>
for discussing a different topic from what you want to change it to is
more reprehensible than insulting someone who is misdiscussing the same
topic you are discussing.
didn't/couldn't, why are you so insulting? If you have indigestion,
take a TUMS. Every time you act like this, you lose credibility even
when you're behaving properly. Ask yourself why you call yourself a
wannabe.
>
😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅
Sep 20, 2023, 12:03:30 PMSep 20
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emulate the effect and look race cars. Are you stupid or something, or
just plain stupid?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2FEuZMhhiY
just plain stupid?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2FEuZMhhiY
micky
Sep 20, 2023, 2:13:13 PMSep 20
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Are you like this in person too?
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 20 Sep 2023 12:03:23 -0400, ? Mighty Wannabe
micky
Sep 23, 2023, 9:14:59 PMSep 23
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In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 18 Sep 2023 22:05:08 -0500, Jim Joyce
Thanks. This one really impressed me
https://www.carscoops.com/2020/10/what-do-you-think-of-this-stanced-nissan-350z/
I want one.
also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stance_(vehicle)
https://www.carscoops.com/2020/10/what-do-you-think-of-this-stanced-nissan-350z/
I want one.
also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stance_(vehicle)
Jim Joyce
Sep 23, 2023, 11:15:22 PMSep 23
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I don't see any pros, only cons.
Another thing I'm starting to see are vehicles that are lifted several feet in
the front, and not at all in the rear. The driver and passengers are staring at
the sky, which seems to be a safety issue.
https://www.hotcars.com/carolina-squat-what-it-is-where-come-from/
I've seen examples on the street that are even more extreme than the most
extreme examples in the article at that link. You can easily hide a whole
vehicle in the blind spot, let alone a motorcyclist or pedestrian.
Xeno
Sep 24, 2023, 12:38:34 AMSep 24
to
On 24/9/2023 1:15 pm, Jim Joyce wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 21:14:55 -0400, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
>
>> In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 18 Sep 2023 22:05:08 -0500, Jim Joyce
>> <no...@none.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 23:27:15 -0400, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I saw today what I think was a Subaru BRZ. Very pretty car (for a
>>>> sedan) but what made it unusual were the wheels. All 4 were splayed.
>>>> Isn't that the word when the bottoms of the wheels are farther from
>>>> center than the tops.
>>>
>>> Others have mentioned it, but it may have gotten lost in the considerable noise.
>>>
>>> The word you're looking for is stance. Do a Google image search for stanced cars
>>> and you'll see what it's about.
>>
>> Thanks. This one really impressed me
>> https://www.carscoops.com/2020/10/what-do-you-think-of-this-stanced-nissan-350z/
>>
>> I want one.
>>
>> also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stance_(vehicle)
>
> I absolutely do not want one. I guess I'm not part of the target market because
> I don't see any pros, only cons.
I'm with you! It not only looks stupid, it *is* stupid.
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 21:14:55 -0400, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
>
>> In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 18 Sep 2023 22:05:08 -0500, Jim Joyce
>> <no...@none.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 23:27:15 -0400, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I saw today what I think was a Subaru BRZ. Very pretty car (for a
>>>> sedan) but what made it unusual were the wheels. All 4 were splayed.
>>>> Isn't that the word when the bottoms of the wheels are farther from
>>>> center than the tops.
>>>
>>> Others have mentioned it, but it may have gotten lost in the considerable noise.
>>>
>>> The word you're looking for is stance. Do a Google image search for stanced cars
>>> and you'll see what it's about.
>>
>> Thanks. This one really impressed me
>> https://www.carscoops.com/2020/10/what-do-you-think-of-this-stanced-nissan-350z/
>>
>> I want one.
>>
>> also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stance_(vehicle)
>
> I absolutely do not want one. I guess I'm not part of the target market because
> I don't see any pros, only cons.
>
> Another thing I'm starting to see are vehicles that are lifted several feet in
> the front, and not at all in the rear. The driver and passengers are staring at
> the sky, which seems to be a safety issue.
>
> https://www.hotcars.com/carolina-squat-what-it-is-where-come-from/
>
> I've seen examples on the street that are even more extreme than the most
> extreme examples in the article at that link. You can easily hide a whole
> vehicle in the blind spot, let alone a motorcyclist or pedestrian.
>
> Another thing I'm starting to see are vehicles that are lifted several feet in
> the front, and not at all in the rear. The driver and passengers are staring at
> the sky, which seems to be a safety issue.
>
> https://www.hotcars.com/carolina-squat-what-it-is-where-come-from/
>
> I've seen examples on the street that are even more extreme than the most
> extreme examples in the article at that link. You can easily hide a whole
> vehicle in the blind spot, let alone a motorcyclist or pedestrian.
>
The Real Bev
Sep 24, 2023, 1:23:10 AMSep 24
to
On 9/23/23 9:38 PM, Xeno wrote:
> On 24/9/2023 1:15 pm, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>
>> I absolutely do not want one. I guess I'm not part of the target market because
>> I don't see any pros, only cons.
>
> I'm with you! It not only looks stupid, it *is* stupid.
I wonder how often you have to replace the tires. If you have them
> On 24/9/2023 1:15 pm, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>
>> I absolutely do not want one. I guess I'm not part of the target market because
>> I don't see any pros, only cons.
>
> I'm with you! It not only looks stupid, it *is* stupid.
remounted to use the other side, does that mark you as a poser?
--
Cheers, Bev
The beatings will continue until morale improves
John Carlson
Sep 24, 2023, 1:57:41 AMSep 24
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wabbit and dingo meat. You're jealous of fancy cars. That's why you
think it is stupid, stupid.
micky
Sep 24, 2023, 3:22:47 AMSep 24
to
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 23 Sep 2023 22:23:06 -0700, The Real Bev
I hope no one thought I really wanted one. Except maybe to park outside
my house and use it to look cool and attract girls that walk by.
<bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 9/23/23 9:38 PM, Xeno wrote:
>> On 24/9/2023 1:15 pm, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>>
>>> I absolutely do not want one. I guess I'm not part of the target market because
>>> I don't see any pros, only cons.
>>
>> I'm with you! It not only looks stupid, it *is* stupid.
>
>I wonder how often you have to replace the tires. If you have them
>remounted to use the other side, does that mark you as a poser?
LOL
>On 9/23/23 9:38 PM, Xeno wrote:
>> On 24/9/2023 1:15 pm, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>>
>>> I absolutely do not want one. I guess I'm not part of the target market because
>>> I don't see any pros, only cons.
>>
>> I'm with you! It not only looks stupid, it *is* stupid.
>
>I wonder how often you have to replace the tires. If you have them
>remounted to use the other side, does that mark you as a poser?
I hope no one thought I really wanted one. Except maybe to park outside
my house and use it to look cool and attract girls that walk by.
Xeno
Sep 24, 2023, 4:09:25 AMSep 24
to
On 24/9/2023 3:23 pm, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 9/23/23 9:38 PM, Xeno wrote:
>> On 24/9/2023 1:15 pm, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>>
>>> I absolutely do not want one. I guess I'm not part of the target
>>> market because
>>> I don't see any pros, only cons.
>>
>> I'm with you! It not only looks stupid, it *is* stupid.
>
> I wonder how often you have to replace the tires. If you have them
> remounted to use the other side, does that mark you as a poser?
>
Just having that crazy shit on your car marks you as a poseur! ;-)
> On 9/23/23 9:38 PM, Xeno wrote:
>> On 24/9/2023 1:15 pm, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>>
>>> I absolutely do not want one. I guess I'm not part of the target
>>> market because
>>> I don't see any pros, only cons.
>>
>> I'm with you! It not only looks stupid, it *is* stupid.
>
> I wonder how often you have to replace the tires. If you have them
> remounted to use the other side, does that mark you as a poser?
>
Xeno
Sep 24, 2023, 4:17:25 AMSep 24
to
am sufficiently well endowed that I have no need of a penis extension.
To me, cars are a machine, nothing more, and it was once my role to
repair such machines. I like my car to be practical - stanced cars are
definitely not practical thus have no place in my garage or in my life.
>
>>>
>>> Another thing I'm starting to see are vehicles that are lifted
>>> several feet in
>>> the front, and not at all in the rear. The driver and passengers are
>>> staring at
>>> the sky, which seems to be a safety issue.
>>>
>>> https://www.hotcars.com/carolina-squat-what-it-is-where-come-from/
>>>
>>> I've seen examples on the street that are even more extreme than the
>>> most
>>> extreme examples in the article at that link. You can easily hide a
>>> whole
>>> vehicle in the blind spot, let alone a motorcyclist or pedestrian.
>>>
>>
>
>>>
>>> Another thing I'm starting to see are vehicles that are lifted
>>> several feet in
>>> the front, and not at all in the rear. The driver and passengers are
>>> staring at
>>> the sky, which seems to be a safety issue.
>>>
>>> https://www.hotcars.com/carolina-squat-what-it-is-where-come-from/
>>>
>>> I've seen examples on the street that are even more extreme than the
>>> most
>>> extreme examples in the article at that link. You can easily hide a
>>> whole
>>> vehicle in the blind spot, let alone a motorcyclist or pedestrian.
>>>
>>
>
Xeno
Sep 24, 2023, 4:20:50 AMSep 24
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that matter, is not the kind of girl I would want in my life.
AMuzi
Sep 24, 2023, 9:58:16 AMSep 24
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https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/1965_chevrolet_corvair_15438664373e8dec47ad07DSC_0140-Large.jpg
--
Andrew Muzi
a...@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
micky
Sep 24, 2023, 11:18:55 AMSep 24
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 24 Sep 2023 08:58:12 -0500, AMuzi
That's nice. My friend Larry had a Corvair. Only the early ones were
dangerous.
And it has vent windows. My uncle called them No-Draft, but I used to
open them so far they pointed forward (not all will do that) and blew
the breeze right on me. I miss that.
dangerous.
And it has vent windows. My uncle called them No-Draft, but I used to
open them so far they pointed forward (not all will do that) and blew
the breeze right on me. I miss that.
Cindy Hamilton
Sep 24, 2023, 12:06:27 PMSep 24
to
On 2023-09-24, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 24 Sep 2023 08:58:12 -0500, AMuzi
><a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>>On 9/24/2023 2:22 AM, micky wrote:
>>> In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 23 Sep 2023 22:23:06 -0700, The Real Bev
>>> <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/23/23 9:38 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 24/9/2023 1:15 pm, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I absolutely do not want one. I guess I'm not part of the target market because
>>>>>> I don't see any pros, only cons.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm with you! It not only looks stupid, it *is* stupid.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder how often you have to replace the tires. If you have them
>>>> remounted to use the other side, does that mark you as a poser?
>>>
>>> LOL
>>>
>>> I hope no one thought I really wanted one. Except maybe to park outside
>>> my house and use it to look cool and attract girls that walk by.
>>
>>
>>Depends on what sort of girls you prefer:
>>
>>https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/1965_chevrolet_corvair_15438664373e8dec47ad07DSC_0140-Large.jpg
>
> That's nice. My friend Larry had a Corvair. Only the early ones were
> dangerous.
My mother had a Corvair. Two of them, in fact. I can't remember
> In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 24 Sep 2023 08:58:12 -0500, AMuzi
><a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>>On 9/24/2023 2:22 AM, micky wrote:
>>> In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 23 Sep 2023 22:23:06 -0700, The Real Bev
>>> <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/23/23 9:38 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 24/9/2023 1:15 pm, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I absolutely do not want one. I guess I'm not part of the target market because
>>>>>> I don't see any pros, only cons.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm with you! It not only looks stupid, it *is* stupid.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder how often you have to replace the tires. If you have them
>>>> remounted to use the other side, does that mark you as a poser?
>>>
>>> LOL
>>>
>>> I hope no one thought I really wanted one. Except maybe to park outside
>>> my house and use it to look cool and attract girls that walk by.
>>
>>
>>Depends on what sort of girls you prefer:
>>
>>https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/1965_chevrolet_corvair_15438664373e8dec47ad07DSC_0140-Large.jpg
>
> That's nice. My friend Larry had a Corvair. Only the early ones were
> dangerous.
if the white one replaced the blue one or vice versa.
> And it has vent windows. My uncle called them No-Draft, but I used to
> open them so far they pointed forward (not all will do that) and blew
> the breeze right on me. I miss that.
is better.
--
Cindy Hamilton
The Real Bev
Sep 24, 2023, 1:14:23 PMSep 24
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On 9/24/23 1:09 AM, Xeno wrote:
> On 24/9/2023 3:23 pm, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 9/23/23 9:38 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 24/9/2023 1:15 pm, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I absolutely do not want one. I guess I'm not part of the target
>>>> market because
>>>> I don't see any pros, only cons.
>>>
>>> I'm with you! It not only looks stupid, it *is* stupid.
>>
>> I wonder how often you have to replace the tires. If you have them
>> remounted to use the other side, does that mark you as a poser?
>>
> Just having that crazy shit on your car marks you as a poseur! ;-)
Just spelling it with a U marks you as a poser!
> On 24/9/2023 3:23 pm, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 9/23/23 9:38 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 24/9/2023 1:15 pm, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I absolutely do not want one. I guess I'm not part of the target
>>>> market because
>>>> I don't see any pros, only cons.
>>>
>>> I'm with you! It not only looks stupid, it *is* stupid.
>>
>> I wonder how often you have to replace the tires. If you have them
>> remounted to use the other side, does that mark you as a poser?
>>
> Just having that crazy shit on your car marks you as a poseur! ;-)
--
Cheers, Bev
The Real Bev
Sep 24, 2023, 1:20:03 PMSep 24
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On 9/24/23 1:20 AM, Xeno wrote:
> On 24/9/2023 5:22 pm, micky wrote:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 23 Sep 2023 22:23:06 -0700, The Real Bev
>> <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/23/23 9:38 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 24/9/2023 1:15 pm, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I absolutely do not want one. I guess I'm not part of the target market because
>>>>> I don't see any pros, only cons.
>>>>
>>>> I'm with you! It not only looks stupid, it *is* stupid.
>>>
>>> I wonder how often you have to replace the tires. If you have them
>>> remounted to use the other side, does that mark you as a poser?
>>
>> LOL
>>
>> I hope no one thought I really wanted one. Except maybe to park outside
>> my house and use it to look cool and attract girls that walk by.
Looking for jailbait? <sigh>
> On 24/9/2023 5:22 pm, micky wrote:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 23 Sep 2023 22:23:06 -0700, The Real Bev
>> <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/23/23 9:38 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 24/9/2023 1:15 pm, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I absolutely do not want one. I guess I'm not part of the target market because
>>>>> I don't see any pros, only cons.
>>>>
>>>> I'm with you! It not only looks stupid, it *is* stupid.
>>>
>>> I wonder how often you have to replace the tires. If you have them
>>> remounted to use the other side, does that mark you as a poser?
>>
>> LOL
>>
>> I hope no one thought I really wanted one. Except maybe to park outside
>> my house and use it to look cool and attract girls that walk by.
> Any girl that would be attracted to a stanced car, or any fancy car for
> that matter, is not the kind of girl I would want in my life.
but I'm happy to associate with those who can if they'll let me ride
with them!
Purely cosmetic shit doesn't count unless it's a really fabulous paint
job. They have truly spectacular colors now.
--
Cheers, Bev
Brian (Talking to crowd): You need to be independent minded.
Crowd: We are! We are!
Person in crowd: I'm not! -- Monty Python
The Real Bev
Sep 24, 2023, 1:23:20 PMSep 24
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On 9/24/23 8:18 AM, micky wrote:
> And it has vent windows. My uncle called them No-Draft, but I used to
> open them so far they pointed forward (not all will do that) and blew
> the breeze right on me. I miss that.
That's what my family called them too. We also had one of those window
> And it has vent windows. My uncle called them No-Draft, but I used to
> open them so far they pointed forward (not all will do that) and blew
> the breeze right on me. I miss that.
coolers with a string that you pulled when you wanted a spray of water
in your face.
--
Cheers, Bev
Warning: Objects in mirror appear smarter than they are.
AMuzi
Sep 24, 2023, 1:33:11 PMSep 24
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On 9/24/2023 12:23 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 9/24/23 8:18 AM, micky wrote:
>
>> And it has vent windows. My uncle called them No-Draft,
>> but I used to
>> open them so far they pointed forward (not all will do
>> that) and blew
>> the breeze right on me. I miss that.
>
> That's what my family called them too. We also had one of
> those window coolers with a string that you pulled when you
> wanted a spray of water in your face.
>
> On 9/24/23 8:18 AM, micky wrote:
>
>> And it has vent windows. My uncle called them No-Draft,
>> but I used to
>> open them so far they pointed forward (not all will do
>> that) and blew
>> the breeze right on me. I miss that.
>
> That's what my family called them too. We also had one of
> those window coolers with a string that you pulled when you
> wanted a spray of water in your face.
>
" Warning: Objects in mirror appear smarter than they are.
Reading a Bev sig line makes for a pleasant afternoon. Thank
you as always!
Scott Dorsey
Sep 24, 2023, 1:55:04 PMSep 24
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micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
>In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 24 Sep 2023 08:58:12 -0500, AMuzi
><a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>
>>Depends on what sort of girls you prefer:
>>
>>https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/1965_chevrolet_corvair_15438664373e8dec47ad07DSC_0140-Large.jpg
>
>That's nice. My friend Larry had a Corvair. Only the early ones were
>dangerous.
Believe me, it's the girls that are dangerous.
>In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 24 Sep 2023 08:58:12 -0500, AMuzi
><a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>
>>Depends on what sort of girls you prefer:
>>
>>https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/1965_chevrolet_corvair_15438664373e8dec47ad07DSC_0140-Large.jpg
>
>That's nice. My friend Larry had a Corvair. Only the early ones were
>dangerous.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
rbowman
Sep 24, 2023, 3:53:57 PMSep 24
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 16:06:22 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> My mother had a Corvair. Two of them, in fact. I can't remember if the
> white one replaced the blue one or vice versa.
A white one, '61 I think, appeared in a neighbor's driveway. I was able to
> My mother had a Corvair. Two of them, in fact. I can't remember if the
> white one replaced the blue one or vice versa.
confirm a vague memory of the shift being a little vertical lever on the
dash. My brother had a rental and that was what I mostly remember about
the car. He liked to rent Hertz's stranger selections.
I went to a car auction in the '80s. The sales for fat fender coupes and
so forth moved along rapidly until they rolled out a beautifully restored
Corvair. The bidding got up to $2000 and lagged. Finally the auctioneer
told the owner that he could withdraw the car since it hadn't reached the
reserve but that was was all the car was worth. Classic/antique car values
are fickle.
rbowman
Sep 24, 2023, 3:58:43 PMSep 24
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 11:18:50 -0400, micky wrote:
> And it has vent windows. My uncle called them No-Draft, but I used to
> open them so far they pointed forward (not all will do that) and blew
> the breeze right on me. I miss that.
We has a '65 Dodge with vent windows. Later designs had a locking button
> And it has vent windows. My uncle called them No-Draft, but I used to
> open them so far they pointed forward (not all will do that) and blew
> the breeze right on me. I miss that.
on the lever but you could easily open the vent with a pocket knife and
reach the door handle. After a radio was stolen from the car I
demonstrated to the insurance man but he was not impressed. "You must have
left it unlocked." I haven't had to deal with insurance in years but at
that time there always was a reason why whatever it was wasn't covered.
Peeler
Sep 24, 2023, 4:37:49 PMSep 24
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On 24 Sep 2023 19:53:53 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
What a thrilling life, you hilarious endlessly blithering idiot! LOL
--
Yet more of the so very interesting senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
"My family loaded me into a '51 Chevy and drove from NY to Seattle and
back in '52. I'm alive. The Chevy had a painted steel dashboard with two
little hand prints worn down to the primer because I liked to stand up
and lean on it to see where we were going."
MID: <j2kuc1...@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
--
Yet more of the so very interesting senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
"My family loaded me into a '51 Chevy and drove from NY to Seattle and
back in '52. I'm alive. The Chevy had a painted steel dashboard with two
little hand prints worn down to the primer because I liked to stand up
and lean on it to see where we were going."
MID: <j2kuc1...@mid.individual.net>
Peeler
Sep 24, 2023, 4:42:22 PMSep 24
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On 24 Sep 2023 19:58:39 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
--
More absolutely idiotic blather by the resident senile gossip:
"My mother sometimes made a cherry chiffon cake that started with a
packaged mix. It wasn't bad if you squished a slice down to resemble real
cake."
MID: <kaldt8F...@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> We has a '65 Dodge with vent windows. Later designs had a locking button
> on the lever but you could easily open the vent with a pocket knife and
> reach the door handle. After a radio was stolen from the car I
> demonstrated to the insurance man but he was not impressed. "You must have
> left it unlocked." I haven't had to deal with insurance in years but at
> that time there always was a reason why whatever it was wasn't covered.
Feeling better again, pathological blabbermouth? <G>
> on the lever but you could easily open the vent with a pocket knife and
> reach the door handle. After a radio was stolen from the car I
> demonstrated to the insurance man but he was not impressed. "You must have
> left it unlocked." I haven't had to deal with insurance in years but at
> that time there always was a reason why whatever it was wasn't covered.
--
More absolutely idiotic blather by the resident senile gossip:
"My mother sometimes made a cherry chiffon cake that started with a
packaged mix. It wasn't bad if you squished a slice down to resemble real
cake."
MID: <kaldt8F...@mid.individual.net>
Xeno
Sep 25, 2023, 4:37:50 AMSep 25
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use here, don't blame us for your need to simplify words.
The Real Bev
Sep 25, 2023, 11:26:20 PMSep 25
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On 9/25/23 1:37 AM, Xeno wrote:
> On 25/9/2023 3:14 am, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 9/24/23 1:09 AM, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 24/9/2023 3:23 pm, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> On 9/23/23 9:38 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 24/9/2023 1:15 pm, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I absolutely do not want one. I guess I'm not part of the target
>>>>>> market because
>>>>>> I don't see any pros, only cons.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm with you! It not only looks stupid, it *is* stupid.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder how often you have to replace the tires. If you have them
>>>> remounted to use the other side, does that mark you as a poser?
>>>>
>>> Just having that crazy shit on your car marks you as a poseur! ;-)
>>
>> Just spelling it with a U marks you as a poser!
>>
> Not on this side of the world it doesn't. That's the version in common
> use here, don't blame us for your need to simplify words.
:-) That would be the bottom side, then? Aussies use FRENCH spelling?
> On 25/9/2023 3:14 am, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 9/24/23 1:09 AM, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 24/9/2023 3:23 pm, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> On 9/23/23 9:38 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 24/9/2023 1:15 pm, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I absolutely do not want one. I guess I'm not part of the target
>>>>>> market because
>>>>>> I don't see any pros, only cons.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm with you! It not only looks stupid, it *is* stupid.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder how often you have to replace the tires. If you have them
>>>> remounted to use the other side, does that mark you as a poser?
>>>>
>>> Just having that crazy shit on your car marks you as a poseur! ;-)
>>
>> Just spelling it with a U marks you as a poser!
>>
> Not on this side of the world it doesn't. That's the version in common
> use here, don't blame us for your need to simplify words.
--
Cheers, Bev
"It's important to never be arrogant. Especially if you're one
of the little people whose opinion doesn't matter." --Rat
Xeno
Sep 25, 2023, 11:42:36 PMSep 25