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How long can a popping CV joint last?

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Paul <Ford No More> D.

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Mar 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/2/99
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I have a question about CV joints. I drive a '87 Ford Taurus with a CV
joint that "went bad," (the proverbial "popping aand crackling," when
making a sharp turn) a couple of years ago. Does anyone know how much
longer it will last and what will happen when it finally gives in?

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Cster1

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<< Does anyone know how much
longer it will last and what will happen when it finally gives in?
>>


Can't really say but a girl drives by our shop everyday with a serious popping
noise in her CV joint(s) and it's been 8 months or so that I have been hearing
it. Just waiting for the day we have to push her out of the street ;)
Chuck

Michael David Hamilton

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Paul <Ford No More> D. (digian...@darientel.net) wrote:
: I have a question about CV joints. I drive a '87 Ford Taurus with a CV
: joint that "went bad," (the proverbial "popping aand crackling," when
: making a sharp turn) a couple of years ago. Does anyone know how much
: longer it will last and what will happen when it finally gives in?

Quite a while. I had one on my Mazda 626 where the boot was completely
off, driven in the winter and it lasted over two years. The popping and stuff
will get VERY bad before it fails. However you never know, it could fail
anytime.

When it does fail, it will most likely break the drive shaft, and you'll
be left stranded.

Mike

MikeGladue

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Paul D. wrote:
>
> I have a question about CV joints. I drive a '87 Ford Taurus with a CV
> joint that "went bad," (the proverbial "popping aand crackling," when
> making a sharp turn) a couple of years ago. Does anyone know how much
> longer it will last and what will happen when it finally gives in?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Paul D.
> digian...@darientel.net
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There is no way to know for sure. It depends on how
hard you accelerate around corners. If you want it to
last back off when you hear it clacking.

George Jefferson

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: When it does fail, it will most likely break the drive shaft

i wonder if its possable for one to bind up (locking the wheel).

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Michael Sprang

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Why don't you just fix the damn thing? A new CV loint is only $150-$200
installed ( which is usually for the whole half shaft.) The results of
it breaking depend on speed. If it snaps at high speed, the wheel can
twist in an independent direction from the others, causing a very
dangerous situation. Just replace it, and you won't have to worry.

Paul <Ford No More> D.

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As we plod through 1999 and approach the end of the millineum,
"MikeGladue",on Tue, 02 Mar 1999 11:33:25 -0500 had this to say :


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> There is no way to know for sure. It depends on how
> hard you accelerate around corners. If you want it to
> last back off when you hear it clacking.
>

That's generally what I do is to back off on the wheel when it starts
popping or to avoid sharp turns altogether. However, I think I will
quit pushing my luck and get the shaft changed; last time I had CV
joint problems, it was cheaper and less time consuming to just remove
the old shaft and put in a new one).

Thanks to all for your replies.

Paul D.
digian...@darientel.net

Jamie W

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I agree that you should just replace it, but..... this situation won't
happen. Hmmm.... unless your tie rods broke too. Am I missing something?

Jamie


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Kevin Mouton

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"Paul D." wrote:

> I have a question about CV joints. I drive a '87 Ford Taurus with a CV
> joint that "went bad," (the proverbial "popping aand crackling," when
> making a sharp turn) a couple of years ago. Does anyone know how much
> longer it will last and what will happen when it finally gives in?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Paul D.
> digian...@darientel.net
> Please remove ".NOSPAM" and reply by E-mail, if possible.

About 15 years ago when I was a young service manager at a busy Ford
Dealership I told a customer that called in, to wait until next Monday to
bring in her Escort for a CV joint replacement. We were all booked up
till then. It had only started making noise a few days before. I told her
it should be fine for a few more days and not to worry about driving the
car locally.
Two days later the CV joint failed while she was doing 45 mph around a
curve and the left front wheel locked up. After all the lawyers were
through arguing we fixed her wrecked car for free and paid her medical
bills.
Since then I never venture a guess as to when something might break or how
long it will last.
Kev

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Graham Shortt

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Mar 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/2/99
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How hard is that out of balanced (due to play) and friction on the
differential bearings. The wobbling driveshaft is probably wearing the
differential seal (output seal) and may be hammering on the bearings. If
totally strapped for cash the wreckers can be a good source. Also if that
shaft does break at speed thats a hell of a lot of weight spinning around
and it could take a lot of things with it.
Jamie W <Ja...@mikes-trans.com> wrote in message
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Amcjrb

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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Best case scenario, it breaks and leaves you stranded.
Worst case scenario, it breaks and leaves you stranded and hurt.
Why not fix it?

Michael Sprang

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Graham Shortt wrote:
>
> How hard is that out of balanced (due to play) and friction on the
> differential bearings. The wobbling driveshaft is probably wearing the
> differential seal (output seal) and may be hammering on the bearings. If
> totally strapped for cash the wreckers can be a good source. Also if that
> shaft does break at speed thats a hell of a lot of weight spinning around
> and it could take a lot of things with it.
> Jamie W <Ja...@mikes-trans.com> wrote in message
> news:01be64fd$b0e12080$f5f4fad0@hal...
> >I agree that you should just replace it, but..... this situation won't
> >happen. Hmmm.... unless your tie rods broke too. Am I missing something?
> >
> >Jamie

Kinda the situation I was thinking about. If that shaft breaks loose
from the wheel, the shaft is still going to be whipping around because
its attached to the engine. Now if ti gets wedged in something like the
tie rod... Who knows how bad it could get. (Though this is worse case
scenario)

Dan Raymond

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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>Two days later the CV joint failed while she was doing 45 mph around a
>curve and the left front wheel locked up. After all the lawyers were
>through arguing we fixed her wrecked car for free and paid her medical
>bills.
>Since then I never venture a guess as to when something might break or how
>long it will last.
>Kev

Of course it was a woman...

jacob

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Kevin Mouton wrote:
> Since then I never venture a guess as to when something might break or how
> long it will last.

That's wise. I once had a Honda Prelude into the shop for a CV boot and
asked the mechanic to look at the timing belt to see if it was okay
while it was in. He said it should be fine for another 10,000 miles.
Well, I headed off through the mountains and sure enough, not 250 miles
later the belt snapped and did lots of engine damage. I was pretty
unhappy with the mechanic when I finally got back to town.

Jacob

Cster1

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<< That's wise. I once had a Honda Prelude into the shop for a CV boot and
asked the mechanic to look at the timing belt to see if it was okay
while it was in. He said it should be fine for another 10,000 miles. >>


But someone can't really tell how many miles are on a t.belt......can look for
cracks/separated teeth......if so you go nowhere until it's fixed. Visually
inspecting the belt is ok but what about the water pump or tensioner bearing
that might be locking up ;)
Chuck

E. William Lawrence III

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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Paul,
It will last until it breaks.
Then you will be in Tennis shoe mode.
Car won't move with only one drive axle.
That is if something doesn't fly out and kill someone ( or at least hurt
them real bad )
Taurus is notorious for bad CV boots, keep an eye on em.
Bill

Dan Raymond

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Mar 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/19/99
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>It will last until it breaks.
>Then you will be in Tennis shoe mode.
>Car won't move with only one drive axle.

This is untrue. I owned a 1983 4WD Subaru wagon that had a front
drive shaft fail. I removed the drive shaft (left the inner and outer
joints installed) and drove it in 4-wheel drive (rear wheel drive) for
nearly a year after that.

I once gave the car to a friend of a friend to drive to a shop and get
a state inspection sticker for it. An hour later I got a phone call
and I was told to come get my car because it wouldn't move. I was
told the mechanics had to push it out of the street in front of their
garage and into the parking lot. Someone apparently knocked the lever
and put it in two wheel drive. This gives you an idea of how smart
some mechanics are. Couldn't diagnose a missing driveshaft.

elizabeth...@gmail.com

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Mine pops and cracks no matter how fast I’m going. Even at 2mph. Thinks it’s still driveable?

Paul in Houston TX

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elizabeth...@gmail.com wrote:
> Mine pops and cracks no matter how fast I’m going. Even at 2mph. Thinks it’s still driveable?

You might be able to drive it a few more miles, but then again, maybe not.
Bad things happen when it finally breaks completely.

The Real Bev

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Dec 31, 2017, 5:03:51 PM12/31/17
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On my '83 Sentra it was cheaper to have the axles replaced than to just
replace the CV joints. They made noise for a long time, but on
reflection it was dumb to hold off for a few thousand miles not knowing
whether they'd break or not -- and then the engine blew a seal and I
ended up letting the state of California pay me $1K to junk it -- with
new tires, axles, and other lifetime parts.

The smog regs are evil. When that car was gone I drove a '73 Dodge
pickup (12 mpg) and my mom's '88 Caddy (12 mpg) for 10 years. Cui bono?

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Paul in Houston TX

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The Real Bev wrote:
> On 12/31/2017 01:07 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
>> elizabeth...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Mine pops and cracks no matter how fast I’m going. Even at 2mph. Thinks it’s still
>>> driveable?
>>
>> You might be able to drive it a few more miles, but then again, maybe not.
>> Bad things happen when it finally breaks completely.
>
> On my '83 Sentra it was cheaper to have the axles replaced than to just replace the CV
> joints. They made noise for a long time, but on reflection it was dumb to hold off for a
> few thousand miles not knowing whether they'd break or not -- and then the engine blew a
> seal and I ended up letting the state of California pay me $1K to junk it -- with new
> tires, axles, and other lifetime parts.
>
> The smog regs are evil. When that car was gone I drove a '73 Dodge pickup (12 mpg) and my
> mom's '88 Caddy (12 mpg) for 10 years. Cui bono?

You can get away with quite a bit if you know how your vehicle works and
when it starts to "feel" really bad.
I drove my 92 grand am with torn cv boots and bad right wheel bearing for months.
Got rebuilt axles and bearing from O'Reily and put them in myself on a weekend.

The Real Bev

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You used to be able to tell what was wrong with a car and fix it
yourself. I used to feel fully confident in my ability to buy a
10-year-old car and know what was wrong with it and roughly how much it
would cost to fix. When I bought the 2013 Corolla ("Certified" from a
dealer) I didn't even lift the hood. I'm ashamed of that, but I never
want to fix a car again. Ever.

I did take it to a mech that I trust, who told me he'd looked at the car
that morning and was thinking of buying it for his daughter. Good
enough for me.

Do kids even know that batteries used to need water? DISTILLED water?

I hated fixing cars, but I don't regret having done it. Just something
people should know how to do, at least a little.

dsi1

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On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 10:16:59 AM UTC-10, elizabeth...@gmail.com wrote:
> Mine pops and cracks no matter how fast I’m going. Even at 2mph. Thinks it’s still driveable?

The smart thing to do is to drive it to your mechanic or to fix it where it sits. It's not driveable. That's the absolute truth.

Paul in Houston TX

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The Real Bev wrote:

> You used to be able to tell what was wrong with a car and fix it yourself. I used to feel
> fully confident in my ability to buy a 10-year-old car and know what was wrong with it and
> roughly how much it would cost to fix. When I bought the 2013 Corolla ("Certified" from a
> dealer) I didn't even lift the hood. I'm ashamed of that, but I never want to fix a car
> again. Ever.
>
> I did take it to a mech that I trust, who told me he'd looked at the car that morning and
> was thinking of buying it for his daughter. Good enough for me.
>
> Do kids even know that batteries used to need water? DISTILLED water?
>
> I hated fixing cars, but I don't regret having done it. Just something people should know
> how to do, at least a little.

I agree. My 2006 Kia needs a timing belt but I am tired of working on cars.
So off to the garage it goes this spring.
My son finally took an interest in cars, at age 30, and successfully
put strut shocks on his Mazda last summer using only hand tools.

pedr...@lycos.com

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Better still, trade in for a RWD.

The Real Bev

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My son learned from an early age, and we used to fix our own motorcycles
too. I have a mental picture of my son standing on the fenders of his
197x Corolla with a strap over his back lifting out the engine so he
could replace it. He was a big strong kid! We built a tripod out of 2"
pipe and a come-along for lifting engines -- push the vehicle up, pull
the engine, push it back, etc. Later on we got an engine hoist at a
yard sale that we never used :-(

I drive 3K-4K miles/year. I bought the Corolla so I would never have to
work on a car again. Unfortunately one of the tires leaks enough air to
flip the idiot light (which goes off at 24 or 28 pounds) so I have to
pump it up a bit. Fortunately the Harbor Freight $35 12V compressor
works well, although I wish it had a snap-on rather than screw-on
business end.


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poverty. Actually, I'm more intrigued by the 23 per cent who are
apparently doing quite well for themselves." -- Emo Philips

dsi1

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On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 10:07:01 PM UTC-10, pedr...@lycos.com wrote:
>
> Better still, trade in for a RWD.

It would probably be a lot cheaper to fix the CV joint - or would it?

allise...@gmail.com

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I have never owned a front wheel drive vehicle before. I don't think I want one either.

The Real Bev

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I had no trouble pulling out of an icy slightly-uphill parking lot (yes,
we have those in SoCal -- up in the ski areas) with my Sentra after
watching a guy with a RWD pickup spin helplessly. Probably just skill,
right?

OTOH, the most fun I've ever had in a car was driving an S2000 down the
mountain.

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prevent being on a plane with someone carrying a bomb
would be to bring your own bomb and not detonate it.
Sounded convincing. What are the odds that two people
board, each with a bomb?" -- Rowdy

allise...@gmail.com

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> rboard, each with a bomb?" -- Rowdy

How to get your vehicle unstuck with a 2'' x 4'' Youtube

The Real Bev

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On 01/01/2018 09:37 PM, allise...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 10:27:10 PM UTC-6, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 01/01/2018 07:22 PM, allise...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 12:03:51 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>> >> On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 10:07:01 PM UTC-10, pedr...@lycos.com wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Better still, trade in for a RWD.
>> >>
>> >> It would probably be a lot cheaper to fix the CV joint - or would it?
>> >
>> > I have never owned a front wheel drive vehicle before. I don't think I want one either.
>>
>> I had no trouble pulling out of an icy slightly-uphill parking lot (yes,
>> we have those in SoCal -- up in the ski areas) with my Sentra after
>> watching a guy with a RWD pickup spin helplessly. Probably just skill,
>> right?
>>
>> OTOH, the most fun I've ever had in a car was driving an S2000 down the
>> mountain.

> How to get your vehicle unstuck with a 2'' x 4'' Youtube

The winch made of two hefty branches and a rope was interesting, but I
suspect I'd be totally exhausted from the branch-flipping before the car
moved an appreciable distance. I wonder how laying heavy chain (keep 20
feet or so of it in your trunk) down in front of a tire would work.
Zigzaggy, not straight out.

All we could find was a piece of cardboard. Guess how well that worked :-)

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become dry and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather
clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

Retired

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On 1/2/18 1:39 AM, The Real Bev wrote:

I wonder how laying heavy chain
> (keep 20 feet or so of it in your trunk) down in front of a tire would
> work. Zigzaggy, not straight out.
>

>

When we lived in Ohio in the 1950s, we did that all the time , to just
get out of of an icy spot.

A heavy chain was also handy for getting pulled out, or pulling
someone else. (of course we had real bumpers then ;-)

Also, if we had regular tire chains, but did not want to install them
on tire, we would lay them out in front (or back) of tires. Again,
just to get out of a stuck situation. Did that a few winters ago in
Colorado.

allise...@gmail.com

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The Youtube videos about tieing/strapping a piece of two by four wood crossway on a tire/wheel. The tire that is stuck does a 'bunny hop' forward, or backward each time it goes around.

The Real Bev

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On 01/02/2018 09:14 AM, Retired wrote:
> On 1/2/18 1:39 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>
> I wonder how laying heavy chain
>> (keep 20 feet or so of it in your trunk) down in front of a tire would
>> work. Zigzaggy, not straight out.
>
> When we lived in Ohio in the 1950s, we did that all the time , to just
> get out of of an icy spot.

Damn, I'm really proud that I thought of this myself then!

> A heavy chain was also handy for getting pulled out, or pulling
> someone else. (of course we had real bumpers then ;-)

SoCalian here, only theoretical knowledge except when I go skiing. I
skidded my 83 Sentra into a snowbank once and was hopelessly stuck. A
farmer happened along with a heavy rope with a hook and pulled me out
easily. Who knew that I had nice little welded loops on the frame that
made this possible? Why don't all cars have nice little welded loops?

> Also, if we had regular tire chains, but did not want to install them
> on tire, we would lay them out in front (or back) of tires. Again,
> just to get out of a stuck situation. Did that a few winters ago in
> Colorado.

Nobody told me you weren't supposed to drive 45 with chains until it was
too late :-(

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dwarves began to suspect 'Hungry.'" -Gary Larson

allise...@gmail.com

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Excuse My Dust book. A farmer would wet down a stretch of road across his property, Mud. Then when people got their cars stuck, he would charge them a couple of dollars to pull them out of the mud with his Horse and some rope.

dsi1

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On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 5:22:14 PM UTC-10, allise...@gmail.com wrote:
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> I have never owned a front wheel drive vehicle before. I don't think I want one either.

It's a terrible thing to live in fear, isn't it?

The Real Bev

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On 01/03/2018 04:59 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 5:22:14 PM UTC-10, allise...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I have never owned a front wheel drive vehicle before. I don't think I want one either.

Probably easier to put chains on a FWD, but I've never had to put them
on a RWD.

> It's a terrible thing to live in fear, isn't it?

Having driven examples of both, the differences seem less apparent than
the differences in the other characteristics. In fact, NONE that I
could detect.

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into the User?" -- Steve Shaw, regarding Win95

dsi1

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FWD has been on the scene for over 40 years and there's still some folks that refuse to acknowledge the validity of the concept. This is perfectly understandable - if one is a drag racer or a NASCAR driver. :)

Scott Dorsey

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dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>FWD has been on the scene for over 40 years and there's still some folks that refuse to acknowledge the validity of the concept. This is perfectly understandable - if one is a drag racer or a NASCAR driver. :)

Or one ever expects to change a clutch.
--scott
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allise...@gmail.com

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I like rear wheel drive because it is much simpler than front wheel drive. The differential and one or two universal joints. If I permanently lived in 'snow country' no doubt I would own a four wheel drive vehicle, with a really good heater. I have lived in Indiana (1947) and Montana (1956) and Kansas (1957) and Illinois (1963) I think I know 'snow country'

allise...@gmail.com

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rawstory.com Can road salt and other pollutants disrupt our circadian rhythms? ...I don't like road salt, it rusts out vehicles underneath.

The Real Bev

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On 01/04/2018 09:06 AM, allise...@gmail.com wrote:
> allise...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>> dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> FWD has been on the scene for over 40 years and there's still
>>>> some folks that refuse to acknowledge the validity of the
>>>> concept. This is perfectly understandable - if one is a drag
>>>> racer or a NASCAR driver. :)
>>>
>>> Or one ever expects to change a clutch.
>>
>> I like rear wheel drive because it is much simpler than front wheel
>> drive. The differential and one or two universal joints. If I
>> permanently lived in 'snow country' no doubt I would own a four
>> wheel drive vehicle, with a really good heater. I have lived in
>> Indiana (1947) and Montana (1956) and Kansas (1957) and Illinois
>> (1963) I think I know 'snow country'
>
> rawstory.com Can road salt and other pollutants disrupt our
> circadian rhythms?
> ...I don't like road salt, it rusts out vehicles underneath.

...which provides an excellent source of decent engines for west coast cars!

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Of course SoCal has four seasons:
Earthquake, Mudslide, Brushfire, and Riot

dsi1

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On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 3:19:17 AM UTC-10, Scott Dorsey wrote:
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> Or one ever expects to change a clutch.
> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

That is not a problem. I've changed the clutches on several cars - all of them were RWD. My guess is that FWD cars don't don't need to have their clutch changed because they have better drivers. :)

Tom Del Rosso

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Asphalt roofing shingles work pretty well.



The Real Bev

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Jan 5, 2018, 12:31:40 AM1/5/18
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On 01/04/2018 05:34 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> The Real Bev wrote:
>> All we could find was a piece of cardboard. Guess how well that
>> worked :-)
>
> Asphalt roofing shingles work pretty well.

The homeowner probably would have complained.

Tom Del Rosso

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Jan 5, 2018, 11:17:21 AM1/5/18
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The Real Bev wrote:
> On 01/04/2018 05:34 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>> All we could find was a piece of cardboard. Guess how well that
>>> worked :-)
>>
>> Asphalt roofing shingles work pretty well.
>
> The homeowner probably would have complained.

They don't even notice until spring. It's a different story when you
take tiles from a Spanish tile roof to make planters.



allise...@gmail.com

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Jan 5, 2018, 11:18:04 AM1/5/18
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Apshalt? Hurricane Katrina blew ten asphalt roof shingles off of the top of my house, and three trees down/across my street, and millions of some kind of strange looking insects into town, a lot of peoples' cars grills were covered with those insects, people escaping from Hurricane Katrina. Big old pecan tree in my front yard, the trunk of that tree was 'dancing' like mad. I live 140 miles North of the Gulf Coast. My Australian Blue Heeler doggy, she slept completely through that Hurricane.

The Real Bev

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Jan 5, 2018, 11:41:41 AM1/5/18
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On 01/05/2018 08:17 AM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 01/04/2018 05:34 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> All we could find was a piece of cardboard. Guess how well that
>>>> worked :-)
>>>
>>> Asphalt roofing shingles work pretty well.
>>
>> The homeowner probably would have complained.
>
> They don't even notice until spring. It's a different story when you
> take tiles from a Spanish tile roof to make planters.

The bastards cement them in now.

I was shocked to discover that the function of the tiles is to protect
the tarpaper beneath, which is what keeps the roof waterproof and which
rats apparently regard as gourmet fare. I question this story -- at
least on newer houses a layer of plywood (presumably exterior) is
required, which would seem to be waterproof in itself.

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Cheers, Bev
VISE GRIPS (VYS'-gripz) [n] A tool used to transfer intense
welding heat to the palm of the welder's hand. -- DS

The Real Bev

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Jan 5, 2018, 11:45:26 AM1/5/18
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On 01/05/2018 08:18 AM, allise...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 11:31:40 PM UTC-6, The Real Bev
> wrote:
>> On 01/04/2018 05:34 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> All we could find was a piece of cardboard. Guess how well
>>>> that worked :-)
>>>
>>> Asphalt roofing shingles work pretty well.
>
> Apshalt? Hurricane Katrina blew ten asphalt roof shingles off of the
> top of my house, and three trees down/across my street, and millions
> of some kind of strange looking insects into town, a lot of peoples'
> cars grills were covered with those insects, people escaping from
> Hurricane Katrina. Big old pecan tree in my front yard, the trunk of
> that tree was 'dancing' like mad. I live 140 miles North of the Gulf
> Coast. My Australian Blue Heeler doggy, she slept completely through
> that Hurricane.

Smart dog. She knew she couldn't do anything about it, so why not nap?
Any chance you got her from a guy named Jay in New Orleans? He's a
breeder who used to post into one of the Mozilla groups.

allise...@gmail.com

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Jan 5, 2018, 12:32:42 PM1/5/18
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I bought Blueberry (Doggy) when she was eight weeks old, from a guy and his wife in a small city five miles West of me. They live near the Natchez Trace.

vol...@gmail.com

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Feb 23, 2018, 1:16:43 PM2/23/18
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Was it a 2002? I googled this question because of my 2002 626.

mye...@gmail.com

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Mar 10, 2018, 2:44:06 AM3/10/18
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I have been driving with a bad inner cv joint for about a year now. It doesn't rattle when you turn it vibrates when accelarating when going uphill. (Not wheel allignment). Obviously i use it in town only and i dont go fast. I've done about 10.000 km. I mean to fix it next month.

AMuzi

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Mar 10, 2018, 8:08:06 AM3/10/18
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On 3/10/2018 1:44 AM, mye...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have been driving with a bad inner cv joint for about a year now. It doesn't rattle when you turn it vibrates when accelarating when going uphill. (Not wheel allignment). Obviously i use it in town only and i dont go fast. I've done about 10.000 km. I mean to fix it next month.
>


https://www.autoworksmn.com/Files/Images/blog/broken-ball-joint-resized-600.png

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Vic Smith

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Mar 10, 2018, 1:57:48 PM3/10/18
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 07:08:06 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 3/10/2018 1:44 AM, mye...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I have been driving with a bad inner cv joint for about a year now. It doesn't rattle when you turn it vibrates when accelarating when going uphill. (Not wheel allignment). Obviously i use it in town only and i dont go fast. I've done about 10.000 km. I mean to fix it next month.
>>
>
>
>https://www.autoworksmn.com/Files/Images/blog/broken-ball-joint-resized-600.png

My upper ball joint broke on my '67 VW squareback. Was doing about 30mph on Fullerton Ave
in Chicago. Pulled me right into an empty bus stop. Very lucky. The front had been very
"floaty" for a few weeks, but at the time I was ignorant and dumb. Called a tow truck and
had it towed to in front of the house where I rented the "garden" apartment. Learned
about a pickle fork the next day and fixed it. Think I did the tie rods and ends too.
Of course it wasn't FWD.
Some years later my wife's '85 Cavalier started clicking when turning right. Took it to my
mechanic with no second thought. He replaced a halfshaft. It was cheaper than I
expected, about 150 bucks parts and labor.
My son's first car was a '93 Corsica. Unknown to me, he bought a junkyard Getrag and
converted it to a stick. I found out when he dropped a too short halfshaft 3 blocks from
the house.
I was mad about it, but softened when I realized the work he had invested in it.
Had it towed home and told him to call a halfshaft specialist. He didn't know they
existed. He found one, and had it on the road the next day. He drove that car for years.

dylan...@gmail.com

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May 6, 2020, 1:43:09 AM5/6/20
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On Tuesday, March 2, 1999 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-8, MikeGladue wrote:
> Paul D. wrote:
> >
> > I have a question about CV joints. I drive a '87 Ford Taurus with a CV
> > joint that "went bad," (the proverbial "popping aand crackling," when
> > making a sharp turn) a couple of years ago. Does anyone know how much
> > longer it will last and what will happen when it finally gives in?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > Paul D.
> > digian...@darientel.net
> > Please remove ".NOSPAM" and reply by E-mail, if possible.
>
> There is no way to know for sure. It depends on how
> hard you accelerate around corners. If you want it to
> last back off when you hear it clacking.

thanks back off when u hear the clacking might just buy me some time when i accelerate it clacks

Andy

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Jun 6, 2020, 11:29:30 AM6/6/20
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On Tuesday, March 2, 1999 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, Paul <Ford No More> D. wrote:
> I have a question about CV joints. I drive a '87 Ford Taurus with a CV
> joint that "went bad," (the proverbial "popping aand crackling," when
> making a sharp turn) a couple of years ago. Does anyone know how much
> longer it will last and what will happen when it finally gives in?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Paul D.
> digian...@darientel.net
> Please remove ".NOSPAM" and reply by E-mail, if possible.

To me, it's a silly question.

When it finally gives in, an accident is quite probable.

Andy
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