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Special Edition Toyota Crown Hybrid (10% cheaper)

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jolly

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Dec 18, 2009, 3:52:26 AM12/18/09
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Hachiroku ハチロク

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Dec 18, 2009, 11:10:56 PM12/18/09
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:52:26 -0800, jolly wrote:

I want a Toyota Crown Royal...

http://grandcolonial.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/crown-royal.jpg

Oooops! Wrong one!

http://imcdb.org/images/184/181.jpg

cuh...@webtv.net

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Dec 18, 2009, 11:18:23 PM12/18/09
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I want another Model T Ford, second choice, a Model A Ford rumble seat
Roadster.
cuhulin

Scott Dorsey

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Dec 19, 2009, 9:03:22 AM12/19/09
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<cuh...@webtv.net> wrote:
>I want another Model T Ford, second choice, a Model A Ford rumble seat
>Roadster.

You know, it's weird. I got to drive a model T for the first time this
summer, and I was struck at how primitive it felt compared with the Model A.

The Model A is a real car. It's not as fast as a 2009 model Ford, and it
doesn't handle as well, and the heat doesn't work so well. But it feels
like a car, and I could see myself taking it on a road trip. It would be
reasonably comfortable to commute to work in.

But the Model T.... I can't imagine taking it out on the open road for
very far. It feels like a golf cart rather than a real car.

And the thing is, there weren't all that many years between the A model
and the T model. It's as if more development was done in those few
years than in the succeeding 70 years combined....
--scott

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cuh...@webtv.net

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Dec 19, 2009, 9:52:04 AM12/19/09
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Back in the 1970s, a local area guy I know who owns some vintage/antique
cars and some other friends of his from some other states, they drove
their old restored cars from coast to coast.He was driving his Model T
Ford car.He also owns a 1912 Cadillac car.In England, once a year, (I
think it is once a year) those people over there and some other people
from some other countries, they drive their restored vintage/antique
cars all over the UK.
cuhulin

Steve W.

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Dec 19, 2009, 3:28:05 PM12/19/09
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Other than the electronic controls of todays vehicles there isn't much
that changed.

4 wheel disc brakes, independent suspension, fuel injection, hybrids,
electric cars, steam power, turbine power, rotary engines, power
steering, diesel engines, hydrogen, alcohol, wood gas, and a LOT more
were all developed in the first 20-30 years of vehicle design.

Makes me laugh at the claims companies and proponents come up with about
being the "first of it's kind". Not very likely given how many things
were tried over that short time span.

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Steve W.

Nate Nagel

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Dec 19, 2009, 5:36:29 PM12/19/09
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More than a "few" years. The T was introduced in 1908, the A in 1929 (I
think?) Now the T was improved somewhat over the years, but it was
pretty much obsolete by the time it was discontinued. And yes, there
were great strides in automotive engineering, materials, etc. over those
years. Also keep in mind that the T was introduced before good roads
were anything like universal, so it was really part car, part tractor to
be able to handle driving on muddy, rutted paths, across fields, etc.

nate

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