>Subject: anyone experience a blowout over 60 mph?
>From: dream...@aol.com (Dreamcharm)
>Date: 24 Dec 1996 00:19:50 GMT
>
>hi, if you experienced this, please explain what to do how to
>react if anything and at what age do tires do this and under
>what conditions, ie. glass on road, etc. thanks, dreamcharm
>
>
More common with tubed tires. If a tubless "blows out" it is usually
caused from a catastrophic puncture; they usuall just lose air rapidly.
Typically, just hang-on and steer; it'll scare hell out of you. If on a
motorcycle, the bike will be trying to buck you off; try to keep the
machine upright and pray.
js
Depends on what happens. My wife blew out a rear tyre in her Corolla at 70+
and since there is so little weight on the rear of the car, she drove it
the rest of the way home (probably 10 - 12 miles). It was quite funny at
the time, as she came running in to the house to tell me her car was making
a funny noise. I went outside, saw the car listing about 10 degrees to one
side and pointed out that a tyre was flat. Luckily, she didn't damage the
wheel, and those tyres are so small that they don't cost much to replace.
>and at what age do tires do this and under
>what conditions, ie. glass on road, etc. thanks, dreamcharm
Debris will do it regardless of tyre age.
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I had a tire blow out at about 75 mph in heavy traffic. The
tires were older than dirt (exposed cord everywhere), and I
simply wore through to the air under the cord.
The tire was on the rear of a RWD car with an open diff. It
disintegrated quickly, and the car had stiff enough suspension
that the rim was barely touching the ground. The car was
semi-stable on three wheels, but with one wheel essentially in
mid-air, I couldn't maintain traffic speed.
It's not pleasant trying to work through several lanes of rush
hour traffic in a car that's basically coasting to a stop.
One key recommendation: no sudden moves. Concentrate on
keeping the car on te road, but with a minimum of steering
movement. Don't use the brakes until the car has slowed down
to about 30(?) mph. Stay on the road until the car has
slowed down then gradually pull off, braking gently.
That's what I'd do, but I'm no blowout expert.
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>Dreamcharm wrote:
>>
>> hi, if you experienced this, please explain what to do how to
>> react if anything and at what age do tires do this and under
>> what conditions, ie. glass on road, etc. thanks, dreamcharm
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I have had high speed blowouts in the front and rear (at separate times),
the front wasn't a problem, a quick reaction with the steering wheel to
keep things under control, slow down and get off the road before the tire
totally desintegrated. In the rear was a different story, total loss of
control as if the rear of the car had a mind of its own. I spun several
times and ended up hitting a gaurdrail backwards, luckily almost all speed
had bled off by that time and the damage was minor.
Jordan Blessing L1 Master Tech
>hi, if you experienced this, please explain what to do how to
>react if anything and at what age do tires do this and under
>what conditions, ie. glass on road, etc. thanks, dreamcharm
I had this happen on a motorcycle on two seperate occasions -
once with the front tire, once with the rear. Both times from
continuous high-speed driving (4 hours at 75mph) making a long
trip. Both times the bike had alot of extra weight from luggage
and a passenger. With the rear end blowout I just pulled in the
clutch, didn't lean the bike at all and let it slow down to
10 mph before pulling off the road. When the front blew I quickly
yanked the bike over into the grass. The rim on a front motorcycle
tire can quickly leave you eating pavement, but it sorta digs in
the dirt on the side of the road.
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>I had a tire blow out at about 75 mph in heavy traffic. The
>tires were older than dirt (exposed cord everywhere), and I
>simply wore through to the air under the cord.
>
>That's what I'd do, but I'm no blowout expert.
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Gee, 75 mph in heavy traffic on tires that have exposed cord everywhere.
I guess some people don't give a shit about the wellfair of other
drivers. If you keep pulling this stunt, you will become an expert.
>On 24 Dec 1996 00:19:50 GMT, Dreamcharm wrote...
>>
>>hi, if you experienced this, please explain what to do how to
>>react if anything and at what age do tires do this and under
>>what conditions, ie. glass on road, etc. thanks, dreamcharm
>
>I had a tire blow out at about 75 mph in heavy traffic. The
>tires were older than dirt (exposed cord everywhere), and I
>simply wore through to the air under the cord.
>
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I also assume that your not stupid (like the above) and don't drive on
unsafe tires.
>hi, if you experienced this, please explain what to do how to
>react if anything and at what age do tires do this and under
>what conditions, ie. glass on road, etc. thanks, dreamcharm
Had one about 2 months ago on the front right wheel. I had let the
tire shop talk me into puting a radial non the oposite side of the car
it had been runing on without dismounting the tire and remounting it
so the direction of rotation would be the same it had been running.
In this situation, at 75 mph the only thing to do was hang on and
brace for the ride. Twice end over end and 3 times sideways !!! car
looks liek hell but still runs. A bit cold with no glass, though. And
yes, once the wrecker got it right side up again, I drove it home.
1966 Dodge Corronet with 383. That engine will be going in my pickup
as it only had about 8,000 miles on a full rebuild.
>On 24 Dec 1996 00:19:50 GMT, Dreamcharm wrote...
>>
>>hi, if you experienced this, please explain what to do how to
>>react if anything and at what age do tires do this and under
>>what conditions, ie. glass on road, etc. thanks, dreamcharm
>I had a tire blow out at about 75 mph in heavy traffic. The
>tires were older than dirt (exposed cord everywhere), and I
>simply wore through to the air under the cord.
>The tire was on the rear of a RWD car with an open diff. It
>disintegrated quickly, and the car had stiff enough suspension
>that the rim was barely touching the ground. The car was
>semi-stable on three wheels, but with one wheel essentially in
>mid-air, I couldn't maintain traffic speed.
>It's not pleasant trying to work through several lanes of rush
>hour traffic in a car that's basically coasting to a stop.
>One key recommendation: no sudden moves. Concentrate on
>keeping the car on te road, but with a minimum of steering
>movement. Don't use the brakes until the car has slowed down
>to about 30(?) mph. Stay on the road until the car has
>slowed down then gradually pull off, braking gently.
>That's what I'd do, but I'm no blowout expert.
The event I described happened exactly once. I was a teenage college
student with more courage than common sense. At the time, I *knew* I was
being stupid, but I hadn't fully evaluated all the potential implications
of my stupidity.
Even though I successfully controlled the car and avoided a crash, that
one incident taught me a lifelong lesson. That's why I am not, and never
will be, a "blowout expert". Now (fifteen years after the incident), my
common sense easily outweighs my courage.
I was young and stupid, but I learned from my mistake. If you had all
the answers figured out when you were 19, then you really must be GOD.
OTOH, if you're not yet 19, or not really GOD, you have a *ton* of
mistakes left to make (many of which will no doubt be made in traffic).
Man, they just don't build'em like that anymore. I don't think there is
a new car on road that would be drivable after one end-to-end roll much
less two plus a few sideways rolls thrown it.
Lyle.
>On 24 Dec 1996 16:31:53 GMT, GOD wrote...
>>
>[Chuck Tomlinson wrote:]
>>>I had a tire blow out at about 75 mph in heavy traffic. The
>>>tires were older than dirt (exposed cord everywhere), and I
>>>simply wore through to the air under the cord.
>>>
>>>That's what I'd do, but I'm no blowout expert.
>>
>>Gee, 75 mph in heavy traffic on tires that have exposed cord everywhere.
>> I guess some people don't give a shit about the wellfair of other
>>drivers. If you keep pulling this stunt, you will become an expert.
>The event I described happened exactly once. I was a teenage c.......
I had one while traveling 65-70 mph at night in the middle lane of a 3
lane Interstate section. I was driving a relatively new gov't
vehicle...a '92 Crown Vic w/ new (2 months old) Eagle GT4's...the RR
just started bouncing a little and the next thing I knew it was a
cloud of smoke. The bad part was that the car looks like a cop car so
(unknown to me until the blowout) there was a pack of cars nearly a
1/4 mile long hovering behind me afraid to pass. So I had to stay in
the middle lane with the tire rapidly disentigrating and smoldering
long enough for all the cars to pass. The tire just sat and smoked
for about 20 minutes after I pulled it off to change it. Luckily it
was a rear tire.
Another time years ago (then a very reckless college student) I had
been driving my '68 Impala all around town *too fast* for several
hours. I noticed a loud creaking sound as I passed buildings or any
other sound-reflecting areas, so I pulled off the road to look at the
car (having no idea what I might find). Right as I turned the front
corner of the car to look at the right front tire, it literally
exploded...radials popped out, insta-flat (I thought it was a gunshot
at first) !!!! I have to owe it to something, some force, good luck
or something (not my good sense at the time!) , that I thought to pull
over and check this thing out when I did. Go figure. The tire in
question here was a very good (looking) *used* tire that was put on by
a mechanic who had recently rebuilt the front end (who knows what else
was in store) while the car was still in possesion of a grand-parent.
The scary thing is that these things happen or could happen any
time...and most people probably don't think about it while they're
driving.
I just held on tight and avoided making any sudden maneuvers. The
important thing was to keep the car going straight while I slowed down
carefully. I made sure I had it under control before gradually changing to
the right lane, then moving off onto the shoulder. By the time I got
stopped (a mile or two), there was zero rubber left on the rim.
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Other than that, the vehicle handled well and we got safely off the
highway (tearing up the tire, of course).
The joker who came to help us from the local Exxon station was a real
piece of work though. he basically made us change the tire ourselves
and charged us a pretty penny for his "supervision". And then he
wouldn't accept my "Exxon" credit card, even though I'm a member of
their travel club.
"Cactus Jack" Rusak
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"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
I blew my left front tire at about 80 MPH and all that happened was that my car pulled into the wall right next to me, I was in the far left lane, and that was the end of my car. Not to scare you, but just goes to show that tire maintenance is very important. I was unlucky, I hit road debris. Later.
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you shake hands and be nice, but you know what's going on."
That is why tire rotation is front to back....same side.
Result...catastrophic damage....i think it is the shop's fault
barr...@rapidnet.com (Gale Barrows) wrote:
>dream...@aol.com (Dreamcharm) wrote:
>
>>hi, if you experienced this, please explain what to do how to
>>react if anything and at what age do tires do this and under
>>what conditions, ie. glass on road, etc. thanks, dreamcharm
>
It happened to me once, too. Someone else posted about it not
mattering about what side a radial has been run on, look in your
owner's manual, it shows the standard criss-cross rotation. But,
I did that once on my '67 GTO, and bubbles began to from on the
tread, making the car feel like a washing machine. Like an idiot,
I continued to drive it, figuring I'd wait until next weekend to put
new tires on it - afterall I had a spare anyway and what are the
chances of both blowing? Well, I didn't think it would blow apart
at 70 MPH. What you do is DON'T make any sudden movements and
DON'T brake. Either can cause a roll. My RF blew out, and
you have to hold on to the wheel tight, and let the car stop
itself, or wait until you're going slow enough that you're out
of danger and then apply the brakes. I was on Rt 80, and there
were people around me, but they had the sense to back off once
they saw the front of my car drop down and tire was everywhere.
By the time I got it stopped, the tire had almost completely
removed itself and the rim was demolished.
Jim
Don't use your breaks, hang on to the steering, keep it in your lane
and slow down gradually, pull off the road gradually, at as low a speed as
practicle (depends on other traffic and the condition of the shoulder).
>> In this situation, at 75 mph the only thing to do was hang on and
>> brace for the ride. Twice end over end and 3 times sideways !!! car
>> looks liek hell but still runs. A bit cold with no glass, though. And
I drove a 1965 ford falcon (aka econline) van (manual stearine of course)
~140,000 miles in the late 70's early 80's.
I had 2 interstate blow outs over that interval,
one front tire one rear. Both were at ~60-65 MPH.
I had no problem staying in my lane and getting onto the shoulder
in either case.
Why such a huge difference in response to blowout?
Hard to believe my vehicle was more stable.
Is it the diff between 60 & 75 MPH?
Does the damaged tire sometimes get stuck in the wheel
well and lock the wheel?
Neither of my blow outs were on curves, could that be the difference?
Did Gale hit the breaks hard?
(The only other story I've heard involving end over end rolls with
a twist after a blowout involved heavy breaking.)
I experienced a blowout of an offside front tyre at over 70 MPH.
I would echo the advise of going VERY easy on the brake, but
I found that steering into the veer (as we are advised to do
in a skid of any kind), kept the car fairly well under control.
It certainly never felt like it was going to roll.
Interestingly enough, I found the car MUCH more difficult to
control at lower speeds, say between 30 and 40 MPH, than at
the faster speeds, ie, as I slowed down between 40 and 30
I had a heck of a fight with the steering wheel.
In my case I blame an incident the day before when my wife
mounted a kerb at our house, while parking the car. I really
should have given the tyre a much more thorough inspection.
Justin.
Had the right-rear tire blowout in my '87 Topaz several years ago. Was doing about 75 in the left lane. No
problem - kept my cool and didn't slam on the brakes. I eased into the right lane, slowed down and pulled onto
the shoulder. Changed the tire in about 10 minutes (in the rain) and was on my way.
I'm not sure why the tire blew - just old age I think. If it happens, don't freak out and DON'T spike the
brakes. Slow down quickly, maintain a good grip on the wheel and don't cut anybody off trying to get to the
shoulder.
I've experienced one at about 35 MPH... not fun at all. the truck
wouldn't respond to anything I did, just a slow, lazy spin. Kinda scary.
> Interestingly enough, I found the car MUCH more difficult to
> control at lower speeds, say between 30 and 40 MPH, than at
> the faster speeds, ie, as I slowed down between 40 and 30
> I had a heck of a fight with the steering wheel.
>
BT,DT....
> In my case I blame an incident the day before when my wife
> mounted a kerb at our house, while parking the car. I really
> should have given the tyre a much more thorough inspection.
>
> Justin.
True.... I've been much more anal about tire pressures, visual
inspection, etc. since that little incident.
later,
nate
kevin
Luckely I didn't ruin a rim, as they are over $350.00 each in Alum..
My over-60 blowouts have always been the stop-and-change-it variety.
So far.
Mike
Some full framed vehicle even lose traction in 2 tires because
the frame is so stiff that the opposite tire (RF-LR) will come off
ground as the flat goes down..
another stupid fact:
Most blowouts in America are caused from underinflation...
I had a bad one about two years ago...about 80mph....completely tore
up the tire. I just held on for dear life and was able to pull over.
No major problem at all...just scary. The blow out was right on the
sidewall...big hole. The tire (and car) was fairly new so it was not a
case of old equipment and I check the pressure often..it was fine. It
was a defect in the tire OR something seriously cut the sidewall. But
I was able to control the van 92 Voyager.