Help! someone put sugar in my gas tank
arn...@compuserve.com
sugar in my gas tank (bad halloween prank). What should I do? How long
will it take to ruin my engine? Is there a way to prevent it (will dry
gas dissolve tthe sugar?)? Please reply to the list - this email acct is
a ltlle screwy. Thanks!!
-Arnie
arn...@compuserve.com
All you need is a good fuel filter. Gasoline will not desolve on
gasoline. It remains grainular. If you have an EFI vehicle, it could
screwup your fuel pump in the tank.
so does this mean that I shouldn't worry if I have a good filter? What
is an EFI vehicle? (BTW, I have a Buick)
Carolyn & Phil
started) you might consider cleaning the fuel tank out just so you don't
have to change the fuel filter more than once.
dbug
Bill Samuel
arn...@compuserve.com wrote in article
<363D0A34...@compuserve.com>...
> so does this mean that I shouldn't worry if I have a good filter? What
> is an EFI vehicle? (BTW, I have a Buick)
>
>
EFI = Electronic Fuel Injection.
Personally, I wouldn't run the car until I had siphoned all the bad gas
out. The problem is that in past cases, the sugar had carmelized, and
caused engine damage. I honestly don't know if the fuel filter will filter
it out or not...
Bill
John Schmidt
I doubt if the sugar granules will reach the filter. (But have some
spares, just in case.) Sugar does not dissolve in gasoline, it stays
granular. The granules are too large to pass through the trash screen
in the tank. (The screens I've seen are of a very fine mesh.) If the
granules do get through the screen, and the vehicle has an in-the-tank
pump, the pump may not pass them through and it, the pump, may stall.
(So will the engine.) You may have to have the tank removed for a
clean-out. Now, if the fuel pump is mechanically driven by the
engine, and sugar IS sucked through the trash screen, the filter WILL
become blocked. I still doubt any will reach the injectors or
carburetor.
Dan Raymond
>sugar in my gas tank (bad halloween prank). What should I do? How long
>will it take to ruin my engine? Is there a way to prevent it (will dry
>gas dissolve tthe sugar?)? Please reply to the list - this email acct is
>a ltlle screwy. Thanks!!
>-Arnie
>
I can tell you from experience that your major problem will be to get
it completely out of the fuel system. I put three fuel pumps in a
pickup truck over the course of a month or two because the gunk kept
clogging them up. The engine didn't seem to suffer any damage,
however.
dbug
>I'm pretty sure that a couple of neighborhood kids put a half a a box of
>sugar in my gas tank (bad halloween prank). What should I do? How long
>will it take to ruin my engine? Is there a way to prevent it (will dry
>gas dissolve tthe sugar?)? Please reply to the list - this email acct is
>a ltlle screwy. Thanks!!
>-Arnie
>
It's already Monday morning and, I can't believe noone has scortched
my tush yet for saying sugar is not soluble in gasoline!
arn...@compuserve.com
ANDE9974
sucked into the fuel pump, filter or pick up tube you still would have to drive
around with a tank full of sugar, which harmful or not i personally wouldn't
want to do. I've never done an expirement to see if sugar will disolve in gas
but i wouldnt take the chance of it carmelizing in the tank. This prank got
started years ago beacause someone knew it would do some damage (you dont see a
lot of kids running around putiing STP into peoples tanks) I think youre asking
for trouble if you leave this one. Get the tank flushed out. Siphoning may
not do the trick because sugar would settle at the bottom and may not be picked
up with the siphon hose. If you cant do it take it to the garage.
Scott
arn...@compuserve.com
Are there any additives I can use to dissolve the sugar and lessen the
effect?
Don Stauffer
There was a rather lengthy thread on the effects of sugar in the gas
tank only a few months ago. Check Deja Vu or FAQ or other archive to
retrieve all of that thread.
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Edwin Rots
>effect?
>
it'll get caught by filters. If it dissolves, it would get into your
engine and (presumably) caramalize there, resulting in expensive
repair work...
If you mean dissolving the sugar while you flush the tank, water
should do fine.
E-
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Mr. Ed
arnie2@will dry
>gas dissolve tthe sugar?)? Please reply to the list - this email acct is
>a ltlle screwy. Thanks!!
>-Arnie
LINES FUEL PUMP ETC. AND REPLACE THE GAS FILTER AFTER FLUSHING EVERYTHING
WITH FRESH GAS UNTIL YOU THINK YOU HAVE CLEARED ALL THE SUGAR OUT OF THE
SYSTEM. The sugar when burned in your engine will cause it to sieze solid
and you will need a new engine.
THIS IS MORE THAN A PRANK. THIS IS VANDALISM AT IT`S WORST.Maybe your
insurance co. will cover the cleanout under miscellaneous, if you have that
coverage.Whatever you do, don`t start the car up.
Ed.Ontario,Canada
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> Are there any additives I can use to dissolve the sugar and lessen the
> effect?
Standard procedure is to remove the gas tank and clean it thoroughly. You
will probably have to have it towed to a garage that will do this.
Dissolving the sugar will make the problem worse.
Bob Vail
WILL disolve sugar, and pour it in. Let it sit till it cools.
Drain and flush with cold water.
Do the procedure again, if you have any doubts about getting it all.
Air dry it in the sun after using an air hose to help it out.
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On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, it was written:
> On Sun, 01 Nov 1998 19:54:47 -0400, arn...@compuserve.com wrote:
>
> >I'm pretty sure that a couple of neighborhood kids put a half a a box of
> >sugar in my gas tank (bad halloween prank). What should I do? How long
> >will it take to ruin my engine? Is there a way to prevent it (will dry
> >gas dissolve tthe sugar?)? Please reply to the list - this email acct is
> >a ltlle screwy. Thanks!!
> >-Arnie
> >
The ObsoElitist,,,,Paul Calman
dissolve in fuel or oil, and will only clog filters in,fuel or scour
bearings in oil..
Its an ignorant thing to do, but not too painful.
take out the tank and have a radiator shop boil it out, and change the filters.
--
Paul Calman, The ObsoElitist, Hathaway Pines, California
To email, leave my Mom out of it.
RSAutoLink
and cleaned...that takes care of the sugar remaining inside of the tank at the
bottom (which cannot be effectively removed by siphoning anyway)...while you
are at it..nows the time to remove the inline fuel filter (replace), use
compressed air to clean the fuel suppy line from the tank to the inline filter,
inspect the electric fuel pump ( for clogging)..not likely if the pickup screen
is intact...if you discover the tank is rusted inside..id opt for a another
fuel tank
RSAutoLink
it
dbug
>Are there any additives I can use to dissolve the sugar and lessen the
>effect?
>
Anything you put in there that would desolve the sugar could cause the
sugar to pass through the filter and fuel system. If you are strongly
suspect or sure that you have sugar in the tank, the only way to
terminate any ill side effects is to drop the tank and have it steam
cleaned. Most good radiator shops can handle the cleaning once the
tank is removed from the vehicle and emptied.
M'ke Schne'der
<pha...@isoc.net> wrote:
> Personally, I wouldn't run the car until I had siphoned all the bad gas
>out.
That won't work, since the sugar just sits in the bottom of the tank.
The problem is that in past cases, the sugar had carmelized, and
>caused engine damage. I honestly don't know if the fuel filter will filter
>it out or not...
Sugar will not dissolve in gas, but it *will* dissolve in isopropal
alcohol ("Heat", et al) and other gasoline additives, such as the 10%
ethanol that most states mandate adding to winter gas.
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redmondj
1. Don't run the car.
2. Drain the gas tank and as much of the rest of the fuel system, filter
carb (or injection system)
3. Fill the tank with water to disolve the sugar.
4. Drain the tank again and let it dry
5. Refill the tank with gas and good luck.
Dan Raymond
>1. Don't run the car.
>2. Drain the gas tank and as much of the rest of the fuel system, filter
>carb (or injection system)
>3. Fill the tank with water to disolve the sugar.
>4. Drain the tank again and let it dry
>5. Refill the tank with gas and good luck.
>
This sounds like bad advice. Has anyone here ever been successful
cleaning a tank with water while it was installed in the vehicle? You
would probably be better off removing the tank and taking it to be
professionally cleaned. Also, while the tank is off you should be
able to flush out the lines pretty easily. Comments, anyone?
-Dan
Mr. Ed
Mr. Ed wrote in message ...
>
>arnie2@will dry
>>gas dissolve tthe sugar?)? Please reply to the list - this email acct is
>>a ltlle screwy. Thanks!!
>>-Arnie
LucentWolf
>From: redmondj <redm...@concentric.net>
>Date: 11/3/98 8:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <363FB455...@concentric.net>
>
>Arnie:
>1. Don't run the car.
>2. Drain the gas tank and as much of the rest of the fuel system, filter
>carb (or injection system)
>3. Fill the tank with water to disolve the sugar.
>4. Drain the tank again and let it dry
>5. Refill the tank with gas and good luck.
>
sucessfully removed..even if the drain has a drain plug (which few do)..there
are lower portions of the tank that will still keep water inside...all of this
advice was meant to avoid having to remove the tank except for a few other
threads...so you will wait for the water to dry out...quite a long time...again
i'm rolling on the floor here!! HAHAHAHA<<
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> sugar in my gas tank (bad halloween prank). What should I do? How long
> a ltlle screwy. Thanks!!
> -Arnie
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> That is absolutely the dumbest advice for that...how can all the water be
> sucessfully removed..even if the drain has a drain plug (which few do)..there
> are lower portions of the tank that will still keep water inside...all of this
> advice was meant to avoid having to remove the tank except for a few other
> threads...so you will wait for the water to dry out...quite a long time...again
> i'm rolling on the floor here!! HAHAHAHA<<
alcohol). Drain that. Then put in a few litres of E85 and drain that.
jord...@gmail.com
Well yesterday I just had to pull my friends injectors and guess what... Caramelized nasty stuck injectors.
My friend is at the gas station filling up his car when he noticed a chunk of brown sugar sitting on the inside of the filler cap, then after about an hour of researching the Internet, he figured that his filter would do its job so he drove it home.
90 miles later he had some problems and had to struggle to get it up to speed, so he thought that his filter had plugged. I dropped the tank, cleaned it all out, replaced the filter, test the pump, and flushed the lines.
Installed everything and still no start (pops on one cylinder, but runs fine on carb cleaner)
After manually cleaning and back flushing each injector I got them to flow again, once installed they ran like crap but it ran.
Then after shutdown they had froze up again, I obviously didn't get all the sugar out of them.
After a quick trip to the junkyard, I swapped out the injectors and it purrs like a kitty.
Now after shutdown it fires up easily, but only after a few cranks.
Leading me to suspect the fuel pressure regulator is sticking.
Also noticed no fuel pump prime at key on, but thats kind of another story.