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Trivia .... who drove Bud #11 Ford TBird in 1990?

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Team Degenerate

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Mar 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/8/99
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Hello racefans!

I have a cool Budweiser Lighted sign that I got off Ebay... it has the
#11 Budweiser Thunderbird and the sign is manufactured in 1990.... I
can almost make out Terry LaBonte but wanted to be sure........

please advise!

Bill K

Douglas Broda

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Mar 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/8/99
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Per my handy-dandy copy of Greg Fielden's fantastic books on NASCAR from
1955-1993, Geoff[rey] Bodine drove Junior Johnson's Bud #11 in 1990 (as
well as in 1991). In '90, Bodine finished 3rd in the points, winning three
races (Martinsville in both April and September, Pocono in July). Terry
Labonte drove the #1 Skoal Oldsmobile in '90.

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Mark Solie

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Mar 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/8/99
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Labonte drove the 11 Budweiser before 1990. The sign may have been made
assuming he woud be still driving it in 90. G Bodine drove the #11 Bud
in 90. Now for bonus points. Who drove the #11 Bud AND #97 Bud in 91 ?

Mark Solie #2 Fan



rus...@magicnet2.net

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Mar 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/8/99
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Geoff Bodine
Driving for ....

OH shit I'm KY Ralphing again....
(getting old)

MRS. J. J. sweet thing that she is.

Talk about your Technicalities
Driver and owner suspended
uh that's OK see [insert name ] (damn).....
owns the 97 and Geoff IS NOT driving the 11

George

Forgetting Trivia...Proof you getting KY Ralphed...

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Ralph Derickson

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Mar 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/8/99
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"NASC...@200.MPH" wrote:

Trivia, heck! I can't even remember the maxia (or whatever
the heck is the opposite of trivia.)

Kentucky (Bud who? Who the heck is he talkin' about? :( Ralph


Murder In The Brady House

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Mar 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/8/99
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It was Tommy Ellis who drove #97 car for Junior Johnsons wife wasnt it?


rus...@magicnet2.net

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
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OK Getting the Trivia strait...

I Just couldn't leave this one alone
A little research and Presto...

Flossie Johnson was the name of the Owner of the
"new BUD 97" car in 1991
Driven by Tommy Ellis

From Speedworld 50 years of NASCAR
(A Series of stories I recommend to anyone....)

>>>>BEGIN UNFAIR USE

Budgate - It might seem a case of "deja vu all over again" but there was yet
another case of an oversize engine at Charlotte in 1991, and it once again
involved Junior Johnson. That year Junior was running a two car operation,
with the 11 car sponsored by Budweiser and driven by Geoff Bodine. Bodine
was injured that week in a savage practice wreck that left him with several
broken ribs and a punctured lung. Junior tapped journeyman driver Tommy
Ellis to take the wheel of the Bud car at the upcoming Winston and World
600.

Ellis had an unspectacular run in the Winston finishing 13th in a field of
20 cars. By that point NASCAR post-race inspection was a lot of thorough and
standardized, so a post race inspection revealed the engine in Ellis's car
was oversize. Unlike Cale's huge engine, the engine was 4 cubic inches
oversize. By that that era you had to "cheat neat" rather than be blatant
about it with your fingers crossed.

Rules are rules and that engine was oversized. According to NASCAR rules
instituted after the Pettygate debacle, Junior Johnson, crew chief Tim
Brewer, and driver Tommy Ellis would have had to sit out the next 12 races.

That posed a bit of a problem. Budweiser who sponsored the car was a loyal
supporter of the sport, and a long time sponsor in the Winston Cup ranks.
The beer company was title sponsor of three races that year, including the
very next race after Charlotte at Dover. Of course that is one reason NASCAR
had such draconian rules. Besides the loss of purse money and valuable
Winston Cup points, a team owner suspended for cheating was going to have to
explain to his high dollar sponsor why their 200 MPH billboard wasn't out
there advertising their product, a powerful incentive to keep to the
straight and narrow.

Almost immediately NASCAR started reversing its own policies. The
suspensions announced for Junior, Brewer and Ellis were four races. Then in
another surprising decision, NASCAR announced that since Ellis wasn't
actually part of the Junior Johnson team, just a hired gun, he wouldn't be
suspended. That still left the fact that the Budweiser car wouldn't be
running in the high profile World 600 at Charlotte, and the Budweiser 500 at
Dover. But the Bud car made it after all.

With a wink and a nod from NASCAR, Junior transferred ownership of the Bud
team to his wife Flossie, and the car would run with the number "97" rather
than "11" since the 11 team was officially suspended. Of course Budweiser
wasn't so concerned with what number was on the door as those big Budweiser
logos on the hood and quarter panels. Besides the "97" cars were the same
stout entries from Junior's stable, with different decals on the doors, and
a different signature on the "owner" line.

Ellis drove the 97 car at Charlotte and Dover. Bodine was healed up enough
to return to the drivers seat of the "new" team at Sonoma and Pocono, where
he finished 8th and 5th respectively. The properly chastened 11 team sprung
from the ashes at Michigan having endured their lengthy suspension.

While there is no hard evidence to support it, and stories about Junior
Johnson are sometimes made just a bit more colorful as becomes a legend,
many people say though he was officially banned from the track, Junior
called the shots at those four races anyway. The stories vary as to how he
managed that. Some say he watched the races at home on TV phone in hand
calling the shots. Others put him in nearby taverns watching on a big screen
TV, communicating via CB to the track. Others claim they saw Junior sneaking
into the Bud suites as the races. The most colorful stories place Junior,
lightly disguised with sunglasses and a ball cap worn low, right out there
in the stands, wearing a two way radio just like the spotter's. However he
managed it, you can bet Junior wasn't out plowing the back 40 those
weekends, waiting for Flossie to get home and tell him how "her" team ran
that day.

END UNFAIR USE>>>>


George

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rus...@magicnet2.net

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JLauber419

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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>Flossie Johnson was the name of the Owner of the
>"new BUD 97" car in 1991
>Driven by Tommy Ellis

what does this have to do with 1990?

rus...@magicnet2.net

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Mar 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/14/99
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If you read back in the thread Mark Solie asked a trivia Question

Quote from post>>>

Labonte drove the 11 Budweiser before 1990. The sign may have been made

assuming he would be still driving it in 90. G Bodine drove the #11 Bud


in 90. Now for bonus points. Who drove the #11 Bud AND #97 Bud in 91 ?

Mark Solie #2 Fan

<<<<End Quote

I answered back Remembering the reason
but not Flossie's name and so ...

George

Following threads can be fun


JLauber419 wrote in message
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>>Flossie Johnson was the name of the Owner of the
>>"new BUD 97" car in 1991
>>Driven by Tommy Ellis
>

A79IROC

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Mar 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/16/99
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If the car on sign is red and white thats from 1989. If the car is red it's
from 1990.

Bryan Hallman

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