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NASCAR on Nothing But Commercials, fans mad at NBC for ad breaks during the race.
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tmc...@gmail.com
Jul 4, 2016, 12:19:48 AM7/4/16
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NASCAR on NBC's second season of it's current run as the second half of the season home of NASCAR TV coverage did not get off to a good start for NASCAR fans as most of the Coke Zero 400 at Daytona International Speedway broadcast was mostly commercials as they kept going to breaks a couple of minutes after returning. in fact complains were being made by very vocal NASCAR fans who were ticked at the amount of commercials that aired last night on NASCAR on NBC's Facebook page, which some threating to boycott NBC and watch the Race via NASCAR.com and listen to audio coverage from MRN/PRN to some wishing Fox had the entire season and saying they miss the NASCAR on Fox coverage.
in fact, according to Fansided's Beyond The Flag section the total amount of ad time spent during the race was 47 minutes and 143 minutes of racing aired on TV, compare to last years Coke Zero 400 which had a total of 168 minutes of racing on TV and 35 minutes of ads and that race last year was ran in the late night/early morning hours and didn't end until almost 3 AM local time due to a several hours of rain delay to delay the race start of the race. the race last year was NBC's first NASCAR race since the end of the 2006 season when NBC's previous NASCAR coverage contract ended and ESPN/ABC took over the second half of the season rights from 2007-2014.
this is not the first time NBC did this, in fact during the 2001-2006 run of NASCAR on NBC (which was co-produced by NBC Sports and Turner Sports as NBC's cable partner for the NASCAR coverage back then was TNT), fans criticized NBC for airing more ads then the actual racing. in fact, in the movie Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby, they poke of NBC's coverage of NASCAR by having a bit where during a long epic wreck between Rick Bobby and Jean Girard, NBC went to a Applebee's commercial then they return to the wreck, still in progress.
https://beyondtheflag.com/2016/07/03/nascar-interrupt-commercial-race/
http://www.sportingnews.com/nascar/news/daytona-commercials-coke-zero-400-ads-tv-ratings-nbc-broadcast/r512jeletb1n1w9ufpsx75ote
NASCAR on NBC's second season of it's current run as the second half of the season home of NASCAR TV coverage did not get off to a good start for NASCAR fans as most of the Coke Zero 400 at Daytona International Speedway broadcast was mostly commercials as they kept going to breaks a couple of minutes after returning. in fact complains were being made by very vocal NASCAR fans who were ticked at the amount of commercials that aired last night on NASCAR on NBC's Facebook page, which some threating to boycott NBC and watch the Race via NASCAR.com and listen to audio coverage from MRN/PRN to some wishing Fox had the entire season and saying they miss the NASCAR on Fox coverage.
in fact, according to Fansided's Beyond The Flag section the total amount of ad time spent during the race was 47 minutes and 143 minutes of racing aired on TV, compare to last years Coke Zero 400 which had a total of 168 minutes of racing on TV and 35 minutes of ads and that race last year was ran in the late night/early morning hours and didn't end until almost 3 AM local time due to a several hours of rain delay to delay the race start of the race. the race last year was NBC's first NASCAR race since the end of the 2006 season when NBC's previous NASCAR coverage contract ended and ESPN/ABC took over the second half of the season rights from 2007-2014.
this is not the first time NBC did this, in fact during the 2001-2006 run of NASCAR on NBC (which was co-produced by NBC Sports and Turner Sports as NBC's cable partner for the NASCAR coverage back then was TNT), fans criticized NBC for airing more ads then the actual racing. in fact, in the movie Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby, they poke of NBC's coverage of NASCAR by having a bit where during a long epic wreck between Rick Bobby and Jean Girard, NBC went to a Applebee's commercial then they return to the wreck, still in progress.
https://beyondtheflag.com/2016/07/03/nascar-interrupt-commercial-race/
http://www.sportingnews.com/nascar/news/daytona-commercials-coke-zero-400-ads-tv-ratings-nbc-broadcast/r512jeletb1n1w9ufpsx75ote
TS02,05,11champ
Jul 4, 2016, 12:34:35 PM7/4/16
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getting ripped by fans about the amount of commercials. I wrote a post
and when I hit send I got a message saying there was an error. So I
copied the post and refreshed the page. After I refreshed I got a
message saying the page no longer existed. Really? That is the way they
deal with upset fans?
tmc...@gmail.com
Jul 4, 2016, 12:50:07 PM7/4/16
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thekma...@gmail.com
Jul 4, 2016, 12:57:49 PM7/4/16
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40 years ago commercials occupied 10 minutes of a 60 minute
slot. Now they occupy 20 minutes of that same period. On
Nascar and virtually all other broadcast programming.
slot. Now they occupy 20 minutes of that same period. On
Nascar and virtually all other broadcast programming.
John McCoy
Jul 4, 2016, 2:12:37 PM7/4/16
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thekma...@gmail.com wrote in news:1003a6fb-cb6a-47b7-85a0-
64598f...@googlegroups.com:
> 40 years ago commercials occupied 10 minutes of a 60 minute
> slot. Now they occupy 20 minutes of that same period. On
> Nascar and virtually all other broadcast programming.
For NBC's broadcast of the Firecracker, that was apparently
true (based on Cawsnjaws data). For a typical broadcast, tho,
it's 15 minutes out of the hour are commercials (Cawsnjaws
data has shown 25% to 27% commercials for a long time).
The problem here is that FOX & NBC both drastically overpaid
for NASCAR rights, and are trying to recover that by packing
in as many ads as possible (while hoping NASCAR magically
recovers it's popularity).
It should be obvious that driving viewers away by showing an
excessive number of ads is counter productive. It has been
rumored that FOX, at least, has been having problems selling
all the ad slots they're offering. NBC is likely to see the
same thing once viewers react to the kind of telecast they
are being given.
BTW, on a related note - rumor has it that there are no
takers to replace Sprint for the Cup sponsorship. There
may be two sponsors, each covering part of the season.
John
64598f...@googlegroups.com:
> 40 years ago commercials occupied 10 minutes of a 60 minute
> slot. Now they occupy 20 minutes of that same period. On
> Nascar and virtually all other broadcast programming.
true (based on Cawsnjaws data). For a typical broadcast, tho,
it's 15 minutes out of the hour are commercials (Cawsnjaws
data has shown 25% to 27% commercials for a long time).
The problem here is that FOX & NBC both drastically overpaid
for NASCAR rights, and are trying to recover that by packing
in as many ads as possible (while hoping NASCAR magically
recovers it's popularity).
It should be obvious that driving viewers away by showing an
excessive number of ads is counter productive. It has been
rumored that FOX, at least, has been having problems selling
all the ad slots they're offering. NBC is likely to see the
same thing once viewers react to the kind of telecast they
are being given.
BTW, on a related note - rumor has it that there are no
takers to replace Sprint for the Cup sponsorship. There
may be two sponsors, each covering part of the season.
John
thekma...@gmail.com
Jul 4, 2016, 4:06:24 PM7/4/16
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Could the Cup become just a no-name league, like
F1 or IRL?
Hey, hows about coming over for some brews and
the Sunday SRL(Stock-car Racing League) race?
F1 or IRL?
Hey, hows about coming over for some brews and
the Sunday SRL(Stock-car Racing League) race?
John McCoy
Jul 4, 2016, 5:41:01 PM7/4/16
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thekma...@gmail.com wrote in news:03ff5243-65e0-47f4-b6f2-
89846b...@googlegroups.com:
> Could the Cup become just a no-name league, like
> F1 or IRL?
Highly unlikely. What I expect to happen is they'll end up
with two sponsors, and we'll have the "NASCAR Subway Cup
Series" for 22 races, and the "NASCAR Coca-Cola Cup Series"
for 10. And neither sponsor will get their money's worth
because no-one will remember which one is sponsoring what.
BTW, it's the "Verizon Indycar Series".
John
89846b...@googlegroups.com:
> Could the Cup become just a no-name league, like
> F1 or IRL?
with two sponsors, and we'll have the "NASCAR Subway Cup
Series" for 22 races, and the "NASCAR Coca-Cola Cup Series"
for 10. And neither sponsor will get their money's worth
because no-one will remember which one is sponsoring what.
BTW, it's the "Verizon Indycar Series".
John
TS02,05,11champ
Jul 4, 2016, 7:02:49 PM7/4/16
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occurs on the track we will break away". But yet when a 3 time champion
hits the wall, after having major back surgery, and never drops his
window net they stayed in side-by-side.
I loved TNT's "Wide Open Coverage" they used several years ago.
Pete Zahria
Jul 4, 2016, 7:26:19 PM7/4/16
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They take a 30 minute show, and turn it into a 38-40 minute block...
8-10 more minutes of ads..
--
Dan
"Why are there flotation devices in the seats of planes
instead of parachutes? "
thekma...@gmail.com
Jul 4, 2016, 10:43:09 PM7/4/16
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On Monday, July 4, 2016 at 5:41:01 PM UTC-4, John McCoy wrote:
>
> Highly unlikely. What I expect to happen is they'll end up
> with two sponsors, and we'll have the "NASCAR Subway Cup
> Series" for 22 races, and the "NASCAR Coca-Cola Cup Series"
> for 10. And neither sponsor will get their money's worth
> because no-one will remember which one is sponsoring what.
>
> BTW, it's the "Verizon Indycar Series".
>
> John
I will always call it the "Indy Car Series" - I'm no
>
> Highly unlikely. What I expect to happen is they'll end up
> with two sponsors, and we'll have the "NASCAR Subway Cup
> Series" for 22 races, and the "NASCAR Coca-Cola Cup Series"
> for 10. And neither sponsor will get their money's worth
> because no-one will remember which one is sponsoring what.
>
> BTW, it's the "Verizon Indycar Series".
>
> John
hoo-aahh! ;)
John McCoy
Jul 5, 2016, 11:31:36 AM7/5/16
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thekma...@gmail.com wrote in news:4ff48333-ec2e-4cea-b859-
e8b79d...@googlegroups.com:
LOL. Occasionally I forget and call them Champ Cars, which
is what they were called back in the USAC days. Oddly enough,
CART, which had "Championship" as part of it's name, chose
to call them "Indycars", until the Speedway objected to it
(CART never ran a race at Indy, so the Speedway had a point).
John
e8b79d...@googlegroups.com:
is what they were called back in the USAC days. Oddly enough,
CART, which had "Championship" as part of it's name, chose
to call them "Indycars", until the Speedway objected to it
(CART never ran a race at Indy, so the Speedway had a point).
John
John McCoy
Jul 5, 2016, 11:43:38 AM7/5/16
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"TS02,05,11champ" <tonystewar...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:sWBez.15675$4K5....@fx20.iad:
> And every time they went to a commercial they kept saying "if a wreck
> occurs on the track we will break away". But yet when a 3 time champion
> hits the wall, after having major back surgery, and never drops his
> window net they stayed in side-by-side.
Yeah, I noticed that.
I see where Jenna Fryer tweeted during the race "we interrupt
this commercial for a race report". You know it's bad when
your fellow members of the media are calling you out on it.
John
news:sWBez.15675$4K5....@fx20.iad:
> And every time they went to a commercial they kept saying "if a wreck
> occurs on the track we will break away". But yet when a 3 time champion
> hits the wall, after having major back surgery, and never drops his
> window net they stayed in side-by-side.
I see where Jenna Fryer tweeted during the race "we interrupt
this commercial for a race report". You know it's bad when
your fellow members of the media are calling you out on it.
John
nod jarrett
Jul 5, 2016, 12:08:34 PM7/5/16
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are no commercials.
Pete Zahria
Jul 5, 2016, 6:40:23 PM7/5/16
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In article John McCoy <igo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>LOL. Occasionally I forget and call them Champ Cars,
>John
>LOL. Occasionally I forget and call them Champ Cars,
We still say "Busch Cars" just because it is so recognizable in my circle..
TS02,05,11champ
Jul 5, 2016, 11:17:15 PM7/5/16
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On 7/5/2016 6:40 PM, Pete Zahria wrote:
> In article John McCoy <igo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> LOL. Occasionally I forget and call them Champ Cars,
>> John
>
>
> We still say "Busch Cars" just because it is so recognizable in my circle..
I still say Busch series. And I just call the big boys "the cup series".
> In article John McCoy <igo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> LOL. Occasionally I forget and call them Champ Cars,
>> John
>
>
> We still say "Busch Cars" just because it is so recognizable in my circle..
thekma...@gmail.com
Jul 6, 2016, 7:46:53 AM7/6/16
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Jul 5TS02,05,11champ wrote:
"I still say Busch series. And I just call the big boys "the cup series". "
Pretty soon it'll be the "Verizon Metro north train" to "AOL Grand
"I still say Busch series. And I just call the big boys "the cup series". "
Central"! After which I will use a "TD bank" Pay toilet! smh...
Oh yeah, and the view is spectacular from the "Microsoft Empire
State Building"!!
John McCoy
Jul 6, 2016, 8:22:22 PM7/6/16
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"TS02,05,11champ" <tonystewar...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:ZK_ez.26662$Nu....@fx44.iad:
Yeah, I've been calling it the "Cup Series" or "Cup cars" for
a long time. I can't bring myself to say "Sprint cars" because
to me sprint cars means something else.
Speaking of which, I wonder if Knoxville will be televised
this year.
John
news:ZK_ez.26662$Nu....@fx44.iad:
a long time. I can't bring myself to say "Sprint cars" because
to me sprint cars means something else.
Speaking of which, I wonder if Knoxville will be televised
this year.
John
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