TIM RICHMOND/AIDS
Richard
Richmond-AIDS
MIAMI (AP) - Numerous women were infected with the AIDS virus by
auto racing star Tim
Richmond before his death in 1989, according to the Miami Herald.
Richmond's former fiancee, LaGena Lookabill Greene, went public
in 1995, saying she had been
infected by Richmond and was dying of AIDS. A former model who
lives in Charlotte, N.C., Greene
told the newspaper she has been contacted by women who say they
also were infected by Richmond.
``From those calls alone - only counting the ones from Charlotte
- I could have started a support
group of women exposed to HIV from Tim,'' Greene was quoted as
saying. ``There would be about 30
in that support group. They told me they were exposed, that they
had had sex with Tim and they were
worried.''
The Herald reported that at least two former partners of Richmond
are in seclusion on the East
Coast, dying of AIDS. The Herald reported another woman, Debbie
Putman, had an encounter with
the racing star and died four years ago.
Richmond's infectious-disease specialist, Dr. David Dodson, was
unsure when the race car driver was
infected.
``Perhaps in the late '70s,'' Dodson said, adding that he had
been contacted by possible former
partners of Richmond.
``I did receive several calls from women around the country,'' he
said.
Richmond was diagnosed with AIDS in December 1986, according to
his family. Greene says he
infected her Sept. 10 of that year in a New York hotel. She
believes that Richmond knew he had the
virus when they made love after his marriage proposal.
``I grieved his death,'' she said, ``even though he knowingly
planted his seed of death inside me.''
Putman's obituary did not disclose a cause of death, but The
Herald reported she confided to her
grandmother Julia Stafford: ``Do you remember me telling you
about going to a party at Tim's?
That's where I must have gotten AIDS, because we were together.''
(Copyright 1996 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This
material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or
redistributed.)
Ray Kelley
There is no evidence presented that TR knowingly exposed anyone
to the HIV virus. None of the *contacts* talked about suggested
that they occurred after his being diagnosed.
This should have just been a story about life.
When you live it in the fast lane there's usually a cost.
When you have a sexual relationship with someone you are
having it with all of their former partners as well. The
most popular infection of the day may change but the basic
facts surrounding intimate sex don't change.
It seems to me that the guy who wrote this article missed the
point - and I suspect he meant to - just to create a more
readable headline. That's too bad.
There my $.02. . . I'll go back to sleep now and wait for Sunday.
Ray Kelley
John Ireland
>Okay so I've now read the article.
>
>There is no evidence presented that TR knowingly exposed anyone
>to the HIV virus. None of the *contacts* talked about suggested
>that they occurred after his being diagnosed.
I know this sounds made up, but the article I read on this
contained all of what was in the one posted here, and lots
more... more lurid details so to speak. And strangely, it had a
Knight-Rider by-line, not (AP) like the one posted here.
Nevertheless, at least one of the *contacts* in this article does
firmly accuse TR of "knowingly" infecting her... or rather
knowingly putting her at risk, and succeding in infecting her.
That was LaGena Greene, the woman he begged to marry him. He
pursued her for years and courted her on and off, but she claims
their relationship was never consumated until she finally agreed
to marry him. Then he filled her with HIV.
And note that the date of TR's AIDS diagnosis was provided by his
family, not official records. Who knows what interests are
involved there.
>This should have just been a story about life.
>When you live it in the fast lane there's usually a cost.
The above referenced story was definitely intended to show that,
in LaGena Greene's case it wasn't casual sex. It was the
culmination of a long relationship and after an engagement to be
married. LaGena wasn't living life in the *fast lane*.
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John the welder
Dan Knight
mail.orl.mmc.com> writes:
:>
:>Okay so I've now read the article.
:>
:>There is no evidence presented that TR knowingly exposed anyone
:>to the HIV virus. None of the *contacts* talked about suggested
:>that they occurred after his being diagnosed.
:>This should have just been a story about life.
:>When you live it in the fast lane there's usually a cost.
:>When you have a sexual relationship with someone you are
:>most popular infection of the day may change but the basic
:>facts surrounding intimate sex don't change.
:>
:>It seems to me that the guy who wrote this article missed the
:>point - and I suspect he meant to - just to create a more
:>readable headline. That's too bad.
:>
:>There my $.02. . . I'll go back to sleep now and wait for Sunday.
:>
:>
:>Ray Kelley
:>
When you jump into a briar bush, it's hard to climb out and then pick out the
individual briars that scratched you. I believe that Tim was responsible
for his fiance' contracting the disease, but I would be skeptical about the
others (especially since Tim is not here to defend himself).
On a racing note, Tim was probably one of the greatest racing talents to ever
grace NASCAR. I really enjoyed watching him hustle a car on the track. It
was a work of art.
Dan Knight
Harry Krabbe
[snip]
>It seems to me that the guy who wrote this article missed the
>point - and I suspect he meant to - just to create a more
>readable headline. That's too bad.
Ray,
I agree with what you are saying here. News media in this country
are masters at twisting words just to sell more papers, etc. They
ought to be held more accountable for what they print and say.
--
Harry O. Krabbe
In the Indian Wells Valley
hkr...@ridgecrest.ca.us
URL: http://www1.ridgecrest.ca.us/~hkrabbe
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TEXAS COWGIRL
>Richmond-AIDS
I have this one but it's like two pages long..Really interesting to me
though.
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>r...@gate.net (Richard) wrote:
>>Richmond-AIDS
In our local paper, the article read that Tim was diagnosed in December, but
that his "fiancee" said he infected her the previous September(knowingly) Now
how can you knowingly infect someone when you haven't even been diagnosed
yourself??
As far as I'm concerned this girl is out to ruin whatever good reputation Tim
may have. He's dead and paid the ultimate price
Shellie
A.j. Morning
Tim Richmond's fiance was not the only one he infected-- prior
to his diagnosis, he dated Charlotte, NC anchorwoman Meg
MacDonald and infected her. She died around the time he did...
AJM
GLBRNEYZ
>AJM
Nice girl in Franklin County, VA also died after being with Tim.
#3 fan
Jeff Oswald
says...
>
>
>Tim Richmond's fiance was not the only one he infected-- prior
>to his diagnosis, he dated Charlotte, NC anchorwoman Meg
>MacDonald and infected her. She died around the time he did...
>
>AJM
WHOA Nellie!
This is absolutely, 100 percent false. The only accurate statment above is
that Meg MacDonald and Tim Richmond dated for a short time. Meg was the
Anchorwoman for WSOC-TV at the time of Tim's death, and left Charlotte for a
job with a Philadelphia TV station about a year later. She was very popular
in Charlotte, and just last year, WSOC featured her in a story on what she's
been doing since she left. I have no idea if she is still in Philadelphia,
but she is definately alive, well and healthy. Unless it has happened in the
last year or so, there has never been a report that she tested HIV positive.
She *is* suffering from a degenerative hearing disorder, but to my knowledge
(we do have a mutual friend), it is not AIDS related, and she has never
tested HIV positive.
Where in the hell did you come up with that one?
E
--
It oughta be in the FAQ
Rich Bemben
: In article <4kkqg1$7...@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu>, hl...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
: >
: >
: >Tim Richmond's fiance was not the only one he infected-- prior
: >to his diagnosis, he dated Charlotte, NC anchorwoman Meg
: >MacDonald and infected her. She died around the time he did...
: WHOA Nellie!
: This is absolutely, 100 percent false. The only accurate statment above is
: that Meg MacDonald and Tim Richmond dated for a short time.
: there has never been a report that she tested HIV positive.
: She *is* suffering from a degenerative hearing disorder, but to my knowledge
: (we do have a mutual friend), it is not AIDS related, and she has never
: tested HIV positive.
: Where in the hell did you come up with that one?
Easy there big fella!! Some people will beat a horse to death...others will
simply keep on flogging it until its turned into an unrecognizable pulp.
(BTW - thanks for stomping on this rumour before it got out of hand.)
Rich
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Carl Zager
Ditto - ditto - ditto!!!
> >
>
> Hey Jeff, thanks for setting the record straight on this story. I,
> like you, are sick and tired of hearing people make up stories
> about Tim Richmond who didn't even know him, never saw him race and
> never even cared what a great driver he was and was going to be. We
> don't need more gossip and lies about Tim and your stepping forward
> and speaking up squashes one more bad-mouther. Hurray for you and
> for stating the truth!
>
Not only did he slam the living and the dead with impunity...his facts
left way too much to be desired.
Thanks again.
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Carl Zager
cza...@bloomington.in.us