FYI.....Since many of you are aware of the situation,
AND particularly because I wanted to publically thank Billy
for being more than a good person and exemplary human being
I am enclosing his message to me and below that a message I
received later that day from EROL.COM.
Thank you Billy.
Wayne (the one & only) Mann,
The following went out to Erol's Internet Service,
this morning, and
I have received a very prompt and thoughtful reply.
I hope you will forgive me if I was precipitant or
but I simply went off like a bomb as soon as I saw what I
saw. I couldn't
If I could get that rotten motherfucker by the
throat, I would soon
be either in the hands of people who care for me enough to
pull me off him,
or under indictment for assault, which case I would happily
as justifiable before a court of law.
In any case, I have been assured that "action will
be taken against
the account" of Jade...@erols.com. In a later message, I
that his account will be "deactivated by the end of the
day". I so firmly
believe that we've seen the last of the rat-bastard that
posted a small gloat in the group.
Chin up, Daddyo.
Dear Sir or Madame,
This letter is intended to lodge the most emphatic
possible protest to the
online conduct of a Usenet participant usernamed
This person has, for months, engaged a campaign of
disruption in the
Usenet newsgroup alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater which
can now be fairly
characterized as monstrous. It should be emphasized that
all regular and
participants understand the volatile nature of the group
resulting from the
which it is dedicated. We all know that political matters
the strongest of us must take the responsibility to bear
broadside shots as
to the shots we fire. No illusions: it's a tough group. A
single glance at
there will bear this out. I am no shrinking violet.
However, it would never in *life* occur to me to engage
a manifestly malicious
and deceitful effort to defame and slander the most vile of
With that in
mind, I submit the following post for your consideration:
Subject: WAYNE MANN: WANTED CRIMINAL
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 00:13:08 GMT
Organization: Erol's Internet Services
X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230
Checked against the record, this post may fairly be
considered the capstone
of an impertinent campaign to *not* address any of the
the person against whom it is targeted, and more: the user
who posted this
has, in the past, consistently abused his target with the
certain of Mr. Mann's medical difficulties, and asserted
un-impeachable nature are, in fact, depraved drug abuse with
purpose of impugning a character which is in no way subject
to or worthy of
Finally, we are treated to the above post.
The Erol's user named above is fully aware that the
"Wayne Mann" named at
the included URL is *not* the Wayne Mann who has been a
contributor to the
group for more than two years now. This is evident in the
record: our Mr.
Mann is a
senior citizen in retirement and resides on the other side
of the continent
from the 24
year-old man who is named at the above URL as wanted for
murder in the state of
Maryland. The Mr. Mann of the Whitewater group has, prior
to this episode,
his age. "Jade...@erols.com" has evidenced much research
in Mr. Mann's
background (for the very purpose of finding personal details
useful in a
personal *abuse*), and there can simply be no question of a
This is clearly a case which is subject to review with
reference to your
available "Internet Access Agreement" and "Erol's Online
1. You agree that you or Erol's may terminate this Agreement
for any reason
at any time.
1. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES.
For purposes of the Prohibited Activities, the term
material of any
type capable of being posted or transmitted on or through
the Access Service,
including material in print, graphic or pictorial form.
When using the Access Service:
(a) Defamation. You agree not to post or transmit on or
through the Access
any information that is defamatory with respect to a person,
product, or service.
(b) Fraud. You agree not to post or transmit any fraudulent
the Access Service. This mean any information that you know
or have reason
is false, and that you intend for others to rely on.
(i) Harassment, Threats, and Abuse. You agree not to use the
Access Service to
harass, threaten, abuse, embarrass, or cause distress,
to any person or entity, by any means, including the use of
ethnically, or otherwise objectionable information.
(n) Disruptive Activities. You agree not to use the Access
disrupt the normal
flow of online dialogue, or otherwise act in a manner that
Subscribers, users, individuals, or entities.
There can be no reasonable question that this episode
in the campaign of
abuse qualifies under these sections.
Therefore, I approach you in good faith under the
"6. EROL'S COMPLAINT RESPONSE PROCEDURES.
Erol's dedication to customer service means that Erol's
takes seriously and
all complaints about its subscribers' use of the Internet.
complaints by both
Erol's subscribers and complaints by other Internet users.
customers should be able to enjoy full use of the Internet
interference by persons
who use the Internet in an improper or unlawful manner.
Erol's will respond to any complaint that involves online
Activities under the Erol's Online Policies."
I am not qualified to comment on matters of law in this
case. (Although, If I
were the target of such stark defamation shown above, and
I would very likely seek legal council on the matter.)
However, it seems a
and common-sense appeal to present to you, that this
behavior is *wrong*. I
realize the presumption of my contention: if I operated an
ISP and this sort
of a complaint were
presented to me, I would be compelled by common standards of
the strongest possible manner.
Me? I want to see this person's account terminated
instantly. It's not my
call, however, because it is not my business enterprise. It
is *yours*, and
you must take
care of it. I fully understand the nature of the
responsibility, if not the
dimensions that you face.
I can only plead to your sense of decency: please do
something about this.
A person has been un-fairly, falsely, and I believe,
by one of your users as a murder suspect before a world-wide
I would only add that, while I substantively agree with
Mr. Mann (the one who
is *not* the subject of the above URL listed murder warrant)
on many issues
in the Whitewater group, this complaint of mine would yet be
lodged in favor
of any of my
most passionate opponants in the group, if they were subject
to such evil
And, I have undertaken this on my own initiative without Mr.
consent (which is, I suppose, a risk in itself).
You see, it is my sense of honor which is aroused here.
This is unconscionable.
I can only trust that you will agree.
William J. Beck III - wb...@mindspring.com
> DO you allow this kind of harassment on an ongoing
Nope. Recent evidence clearly indicates that I was
wrong in my
conclusions about our prior conversations. You have my
and I will furthermore be making a public apology in the
Terms of Service
Remove NOSPAM from address for e-mail
"There has not been a single, solitary soul accuse me or my
wife of doing anything illegal not only in the White House,
in the presidential campaign, or in the governor's election."
Bill Clinton December 20, 1995
as reported in the Los Angeles Times on December 21, 1995