Jimmie Johnson's concentration in July....
Megan Zurawicz
I reckon the expectant papa is really hoping that the baby understands "bye
week" and shows up between Chicago and Indianapolis.... :)
--pig
SG
with his luck, of course
Nancy2
I wouldn't be surprised of Chandra had a C-section; she is so bony/
skinny in the hips, and then, of course, the birth could be scheduled.
N.
Megan Zurawicz
a4913df1-e11d-416f...@34g2000yqp.googlegroups.com, "Nancy2"
<nancy-...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
Even though it doesn't get much publicity, apparently it's been fairly
common for years for NASCAR people to have induced births to try to hit
early in the week; Larry Mac has talked about his kids' births being induced
to aim for Tuesday deliveries, and at least when he was talking about it,
seemed to think that was pretty normal for the community. Jeff and Ingrid
not inducing to schedule seemed the oddity.
--pig
Mike Marlow
"Nancy2" <nancy-...@uiowa.edu> wrote in message
news:a4913df1-e11d-416f...@34g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
And I wouldn't be surprised if she just had a baby - just like millions of
women do every day. Geezus this group can sure dive into the most
ridiculous stuff.
--
-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net
Tom S.
Hey.... It's the off season. We have to have something to talk
about... (((^:
Tom S.
Megan Zurawicz
"Tom S." <tsca...@cox.net> wrote:
>> And I wouldn't be surprised if she just had a baby - just like millions of
>> women do every day. Geezus this group can sure dive into the most
>> ridiculous stuff.
>
> Hey.... It's the off season. We have to have something to talk
> about... (((^:
>
> Tom S.
Yeah, before I read tom's response I was going to say something
similar...."It's the off-season, we're desperate."
Nascar channel on Sirius is spending a lot of time on who that's qualified
for the Bud Shootout's got a ride and who doesn't yet.....talking about Bill
Elliott *maybe* driving David Ragan's 6, and Red Bull putting Kenny Schrader
out there.......
Other tidbits: Front Row will have two cars in '10, Travis Kvapil (John
Andretti's old ride, LJS, presumably the 34) and Kevin Conway. While I'm
happy to see Kevin hit the cup, my initial reaction is "ewwww" because it
looks to be the #37 Extenze car. I vaguely thought that the reason Viagra
vanished as a sponsor was because it was thought to be of iffy
appropriateness in a family sport. Why that wouldn't extend (sorry) to
Extenze, I dunno.
New team coming this year: Keyed-Up Motorsports (Lord, that sounds like a
bad team name from a Nascar romance novel). Raymond Key, owner; car# 90;
crew chief Doug Richert. No word I've seen on who the driver will be.
Looks to be a Chevy team; the cars on their website say Impala on the front.
Looks like Nascar Scene, the magazine, may be in failure. Virtually the
whole staff laid off Monday. Nascar Illustrated reputed to be continuing.
What effect that will have on the content at Scene Daily (online), GOK.
Ol' Robby's kicking butt in the Not-On-The-Same-Continent-As-Dakar
Rally....he's currently in 4th place in the car division.
On the Johnsonesque personal front, Shannon Spake's had twins, Steve Park's
wife's had a mere one baby, and The Onion got hitched.
OK, Mister Marlow, grab aholt of whatever part of that leads you into
conversation..... :)
--pig
Nancy2
> "Nancy2" <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote in message
That's very true. ;-)
N.
Mike Marlow
Ok - I threw a gauntlet down in response to Tom S's post. Now's the time -
put yer money down...
--
-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net
Mike Marlow
"Tom S." <tsca...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:cqmak59tdatfroona...@4ax.com...
Quite true. Maybe we could make some side bets on how fast she goes through
labor - at least we'd keep it race related that way. I'll go twenty on
twenty hours. Any takers?
--
-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net
Mike Marlow
"Megan Zurawicz" <lis...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> OK, Mister Marlow, grab aholt of whatever part of that leads you into
> conversation..... :)
>
There's only one part of me that leads anything. Oh... you were referring
to the Sirrius stuff...?
--
-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net
Nancy2
> >>> skinny in the hips, and then, of course, the birth could be scheduled.
>
> >>> N.
>
> >>And I wouldn't be surprised if she just had a baby - just like millions of
> >>women do every day. �Geezus this group can sure dive into the most
> >>ridiculous stuff.
>
> > Hey.... It's the off season. �We have to have something to talk
> > about... (((^:
>
> > Tom S.
>
> Quite true. �Maybe we could make some side bets on how fast she goes through
> labor - at least we'd keep it race related that way. �I'll go twenty on
> twenty hours. �Any takers?
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
>
> - Show quoted text -
If she has a C-Section, there won't be any labor to go through. So I
can't bet and stay true to my theory.
We COULD talk about the likelihood of an Evernham vs. Knaus match if
Ray returns to Hendrick.....that would be AWESOME.
N.
Mike Marlow
>> >>> I wouldn't be surprised of Chandra had a C-section; she is so bony/
>> >>> skinny in the hips, and then, of course, the birth could be
>> >>> scheduled.
>>
>> >>> N.
>>
>> >>And I wouldn't be surprised if she just had a baby - just like millions
>> >>of
>> >>women do every day. Geezus this group can sure dive into the most
>> >>ridiculous stuff.
>>
>> > Hey.... It's the off season. We have to have something to talk
>> > about... (((^:
>>
>> > Tom S.
>>
>> Quite true. Maybe we could make some side bets on how fast she goes
>> through
>> labor - at least we'd keep it race related that way. I'll go twenty on
>> twenty hours. Any takers?
>>
>> --
>>
>> -Mike-
>> mmarlowREM...@windstream.net- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> If she has a C-Section, there won't be any labor to go through. So I
> can't bet and stay true to my theory.
Nah - I'm sticking to the no C-section theory and keeping my twenty on the
table.
>
> We COULD talk about the likelihood of an Evernham vs. Knaus match if
> Ray returns to Hendrick.....that would be AWESOME.
>
I'm not sure I believe Ray has the same drive he used to have. I think
Knaus might just smoke him today.
--
-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net
Anna Khonda
"Mike Marlow" wrote in message
> I'm not sure I believe Ray has the same drive he used to have. I think
> Knaus might just smoke him today.
Nobody had more top 5's than Jeff Gordon.
and he did okay in the points.
With, a crew chief that many feel is not of the highest caliber.
I would think that maybe Ray would inject just that little tiny bit more
to make him even closer, if not a favorite.
If nothing else at all, I would think that they would be pumped up
at the thought.
I think an 85% Ray Evernham is still better than the majority
of guys out there.
Of course, we may never find out.
But we have heard Ray talk about how he does get antsy at times.
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DAVe
> > >>> I wouldn't be surprised of Chandra had a C-section; she is so bony/
> > >>> skinny in the hips, and then, of course, the birth could be scheduled.
>
> > >>> N.
>
> > >>And I wouldn't be surprised if she just had a baby - just like millions of
> > >>women do every day. �Geezus this group can sure dive into the most
> > >>ridiculous stuff.
>
> > > Hey.... It's the off season. �We have to have something to talk
> > > about... (((^:
>
> > > Tom S.
>
> > Quite true. �Maybe we could make some side bets on how fast she goes through
> > labor - at least we'd keep it race related that way. �I'll go twenty on
> > twenty hours. �Any takers?
>
> > --
>
> > -Mike-
> > mmarlowREM...@windstream.net- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If she has a C-Section, there won't be any labor to go through. �So I
> can't bet and stay true to my theory.
You could bet on 0
Mike Marlow
"Anna Khonda" <Anna_...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Marlow" wrote in message
>> I'm not sure I believe Ray has the same drive he used to have. I think
>> Knaus might just smoke him today.
>> -Mike-
>
> Nobody had more top 5's than Jeff Gordon.
> and he did okay in the points.
> With, a crew chief that many feel is not of the highest caliber.
> I would think that maybe Ray would inject just that little tiny bit more
> to make him even closer, if not a favorite.
> If nothing else at all, I would think that they would be pumped up
> at the thought.
>
It's hard to compare Johnson's titles to Gordon's top 5's.
> I think an 85% Ray Evernham is still better than the majority
> of guys out there.
>
Oh hell yeah - so do I. I just dont' think an Evernham/Knause match would
fare that well for the Gordon/Evernham camp these days. I thinkn Knaus is
currently where Everhnam was, and Evernham is past there.
--
-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net
Anna Khonda
"Mike Marlow" wrote in message
>> Nobody had more top 5's than Jeff Gordon.
John McCoy
this fails I'll dig into the moderation logs & see what's happening)
Megan Zurawicz <lis...@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:C76ACBA5.8D60%lis...@earthlink.net:
> Yeah, before I read tom's response I was going to say something
> similar...."It's the off-season, we're desperate."
Hmm, judging by the last "news for Cindy" we can't be that
desperate.
> Other tidbits: Front Row will have two cars in '10, Travis Kvapil
> (John Andretti's old ride, LJS, presumably the 34) and Kevin Conway.
> While I'm happy to see Kevin hit the cup, my initial reaction is
> "ewwww" because it looks to be the #37 Extenze car. I vaguely thought
> that the reason Viagra vanished as a sponsor was because it was
> thought to be of iffy appropriateness in a family sport. Why that
> wouldn't extend (sorry) to Extenze, I dunno.
I'm glad Tragic Waffle will have a ride - I think he did a lot
more than could have been expected with the Yates car two years
ago, and kinda got screwed not keeping that ride.
As for Viagra, I think Pfizer left because they thought they could
get more for their buck with salacious TV commercials than they
got sponsoring a car. I don't think NASCAR pushed them out.
> Ol' Robby's kicking butt in the Not-On-The-Same-Continent-As-Dakar
> Rally....he's currently in 4th place in the car division.
I saw where Robby was complaining that he wasn't as fast on the
sandy sections because the Hummer was heavier than the competition,
because of all the extra fuel they had to carry because they got
so much worse mileage than the other makes. I'm sure the Hummer
folk were just tickled to death with that revelation.
In other news - Chili Bowl is weekend after next. Kasey Kahne
is in it, as is Jason Leffler. Didn't see Tony Stewart's name in
the list this year, but there's a handful of TBAs (and with 252
entries, I might have just missed it. NASCAR would have a cow if
they ever got 252 entries). I did see NHRA star Cruz Pendragon
on the list, evidently his run at Eldora has given him a taste
for non-straight-line racing.
Rolex 24 at Daytona is at the end of the month (when, hopefully,
it won't be freezing cold). Montoya and McMurray will be there in
a Ganassi BMW/Riley, AJ Allmendinger in a Ford/Riley, Menard in
a Porsche/Coyote, and Jimmie Johnson in a Chevy/Riley. (altho I
think the Daytona Prototypes are amoung the ugliest race cars
ever invented, I will give their rules folk (basically the same
as NASCAR's) credit for coming up with a package which allows
multiple brands of chassis and engine to compete). Bobby Labonte
and Boris Said are also listed in the GT (production) class, and
many of the teams only have partial driver lineups, so we may see
some more NASCAR names appear.
John
Nancy2
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'd rather risk my money on something with value. ;-) I've never been
a bettor - went to Monaco, and skipped the casinos. Went to Silver
Dollar City and went home after I lost $20. To me, you might as well
throw the money out the window.
N.
Nancy2
> "Nancy2" <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote in message
I think he possibly could have more drive than before because JG has
so much competition now. And he apparently was very close to JG. He
may want to even the playing field a little, so to speak. Ya never
know.
N.
Megan Zurawicz
On 1/8/10 9:40 AM, in article Xns9CFA570E246...@216.168.3.30,
"John McCoy" <igo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> In other news - Chili Bowl is weekend after next. Kasey Kahne
> is in it, as is Jason Leffler. Didn't see Tony Stewart's name in
> the list this year, but there's a handful of TBAs (and with 252
> entries, I might have just missed it. NASCAR would have a cow if
> they ever got 252 entries). I did see NHRA star Cruz Pendragon
> on the list, evidently his run at Eldora has given him a taste
> for non-straight-line racing.
Up to 266 entries, still no Smoke; lot of interesting people, familiar names
if you follow any of the WoO stuff. One of my customers from the dealership
I used to work at has run the Chili Bowl a number of times (and was
astonished that I was familiar with it) but he's not listed this time around
either. If anybody wants to scope the list themselves, it's
http://www.chilibowl.com/2010chilibowlentries.asp
>
> Rolex 24 at Daytona is at the end of the month (when, hopefully,
> it won't be freezing cold). Montoya and McMurray will be there in
> a Ganassi BMW/Riley, AJ Allmendinger in a Ford/Riley, Menard in
> a Porsche/Coyote, and Jimmie Johnson in a Chevy/Riley. (altho I
> think the Daytona Prototypes are amoung the ugliest race cars
> ever invented, I will give their rules folk (basically the same
> as NASCAR's) credit for coming up with a package which allows
> multiple brands of chassis and engine to compete). Bobby Labonte
> and Boris Said are also listed in the GT (production) class, and
> many of the teams only have partial driver lineups, so we may see
> some more NASCAR names appear.
Way cool, Labonte rocks :)
Today's updates....
Another new cup team, Whitney, #46 (but no relation to Carl Long), with
Terry Cook driving. Will be a Dodge, though.
Kellogg's is bailing from Hendrick to hit Carl Edwards' car.....
And a whole lot of kerfluffle about whether or not the wing's going to be
replaced by an old style spoiler. Jayski says it's not happening, but all
his info is from yesterday; I didn't get to hear as much as I'd like today
on Sirius Speedway, but it sounded like they had new (post-Thursday) info
about it being in serious consideration for this season. Nascar's own
website says it's under serious consideration, but it doesn't sound like
it'd happen in time for this season (test car upcoming, announcement "in the
coming weeks"), but who knows. They say they don't do changes midseason,
but the double file restart was a midseason change......
--pig
John McCoy
> Today's updates....
>
> Another new cup team, Whitney, #46 (but no relation to Carl Long),
> with Terry Cook driving. Will be a Dodge, though.
I think Carl is still working on paying off his (ridiculously
dispropotionate) fine. If you're interested in helping:
http://www.carl-long.com/donations.htm
> And a whole lot of kerfluffle about whether or not the wing's going to
> be replaced by an old style spoiler. Jayski says it's not happening,
> but all his info is from yesterday; I didn't get to hear as much as
> I'd like today on Sirius Speedway, but it sounded like they had new
> (post-Thursday) info about it being in serious consideration for this
> season. Nascar's own website says it's under serious consideration,
> but it doesn't sound like it'd happen in time for this season (test
> car upcoming, announcement "in the coming weeks"), but who knows.
> They say they don't do changes midseason, but the double file restart
> was a midseason change......
Look for it to happen (if it happens at all) only at the plate
tracks. NASCAR already has a bunch of special rules for those
races, so having one more thing different there won't bother
anyone. And keeping the wing elsewhere will let NASCAR's tech
folk save a little bit of face (i.e. won't have to admit they
failed on the design quite as much).
John
SG
let's try again [this afternoons didn't show up]
yep, no TSR this year, maybe he figured OZ was enough, he skipped Fort
Wayne also this year ----- btw, Cruz has run the Chili Bowl since 2006
SHR news: it was announced yesterday Kraft foods joins them for '10 with
Ritz for Tony and Oreo for Ryan, they will wear the logo on their
uniform and the B pillar of their cars and Tony will drive the #4
Oreo/Ritz car in his only NNS race at the opener in Daytona, where he's
defending winner and has won 4 of the last 5 NNS races
Mike Marlow
>
> I think he possibly could have more drive than before because JG has
> so much competition now. And he apparently was very close to JG. He
> may want to even the playing field a little, so to speak. Ya never
> know.
>
Nah - those old farts just never have what they used to have.
--
-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net
Mike Marlow
>
> I'd rather risk my money on something with value. ;-) I've never been
> a bettor - went to Monaco, and skipped the casinos. Went to Silver
> Dollar City and went home after I lost $20. To me, you might as well
> throw the money out the window.
>
Geeze you sound like me. I spent a week in Vegas and didn't spend $100
gambling.
--
-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net
JerryD(upstateNY)
$20. To me, you might as well throw the money out the
window.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
I just can't see the attraction, either.
I was in LV and spent $10.00 in quarters in a "one armed bandit". (or
whatever they call them now)
Here's what I thought of playing the machines...........
I put a quarter in, push a button and the machine tells me I didn't win
anything.
I put a another quarter in, push a button and the machine tells me I didn't
win anything.
I put a another quarter in, push a button and the machine tells me I didn't
win anything.
I put a another quarter in, push a button and the machine tells me I didn't
win anything.
Oh, how exciting !!!!
--
JerryD(upstateNY)
SG
I was just in Vegas a couple months ago (during champions week no less -
to keep this on topic) and I did not see one talking slot machine. [lol]
To each their own, I came home with $500 more than I started with. $250
on slots and $250 on blackjack. I won a lot more on blackjack but played
it 90% of the time and gave some back.
I was in the restroom and over heard this guy saying to his buddy,
"we're outta here, I'm down 4 grand to this place, let's go back to our
hotel so I can at least get comped, I'll meet you there after I get 10
more out of the room safe". No wonder people get mugged, talking like
that around complete strangers. If I was that type I could have followed
him back to his room and knocked him over the head.
Fortunately I can't comprehend gambling that big.
JerryD(upstateNY)
Around home, when you put your ATM card into the machine and put in your PIN
and select "withdraw", it gives you a choice of withdrawing $20.00, $40.00,
$60.00 or $100.00 and then a place to put in another amount of your choice.
In the casino, the choices were $100.00, $500.00, $1000.00 or $5000.00 and
then a place to put in another amount of your choice.
hehehehehe
--
JerryD(upstateNY)
John McCoy
news:hibcra$vjq$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
> I used my ATM card at the casino and was amused at the selections.
> Around home, when you put your ATM card into the machine and put in
> your PIN and select "withdraw", it gives you a choice of withdrawing
> $20.00, $40.00, $60.00 or $100.00 and then a place to put in another
> amount of your choice. In the casino, the choices were $100.00,
> $500.00, $1000.00 or $5000.00 and then a place to put in another
> amount of your choice. hehehehehe
That's interesting. Most banks limit ATM withdrawals to either
$200/day or $400/day. I guess the big rollers can set up special
bank accounts that let them withdraw bigger sums.
Like most of us here, I don't have the gambling gene, it doesn't
give me any pleasure.
I suspect that's the norm for race fans too, since gambling on
races doesn't seem to be at all common (other than the popular
"everyone put a dollar in the pot and pick a car number out of
a hat" sort of thing).
John
Martin X. Moleski, SJ
> ... Like most of us here, I don't have the gambling gene, it doesn't
>give me any pleasure. ...
If I had the time and money, I'd be a gambling addict. :-O
Marty
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Megan Zurawicz
"John McCoy" <igo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> I suspect that's the norm for race fans too, since gambling on
> races doesn't seem to be at all common (other than the popular
> "everyone put a dollar in the pot and pick a car number out of
> a hat" sort of thing).
Might also be that unless you're betting on more complex things than "X car
will...." it's not something that easily lends itself to friendly betting.
"My football team is playing your football team: let's both put up $10, and
whoever's team wins gets the $20" is very easy. "My driver and your driver
and 41 other drivers are racing, we'll each put up $10 and....." isn't.
Odds are good that neither our drivers will win. Then what? Not as
interesting.
That takes you to bookie level betting with odds. Works for horse racing,
after all. But even that's simpler: fewer variables (horse, jockey),
smaller field, and quite uncommon that one horse "wrecks" and takes other
horses out of the race. Much harder to predict with a 43 car field and
variables of driver, pit crew, crew chief, the machine itself and "da big
one"......
I'm not a mathematician, but my suspicion is that betting on the races could
be summed up with "the odds are horrendously against you", even as compared
to other forms of sports betting.
--pig
Tom Duwe
news:C76FB08F.9042%lis...@earthlink.net...
The crew chief for the the Steve Hatley #41 late model (recipient of mucho
support from rasn'ers 'back in the day') and I used to flat wear out the
same $5 bill on "My Dale is gonna beat yer Dale!" race after race. I won it
most recently when DJ finished ahead of Ironhead in one of the last races at
the 'Rock. Greg followed his wife Cathy in death shortly after that season.
I still carry that $5, folded tightly in my wallet, and will never spend it.
--
Tom in Bristol
Mike Marlow
> "John McCoy" <igo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> I suspect that's the norm for race fans too, since gambling on
>> races doesn't seem to be at all common (other than the popular
>> "everyone put a dollar in the pot and pick a car number out of
>> a hat" sort of thing).
>
> Might also be that unless you're betting on more complex things than "X
> car
> will...." it's not something that easily lends itself to friendly betting.
>
> "My football team is playing your football team: let's both put up $10,
> and
> whoever's team wins gets the $20" is very easy. "My driver and your
> driver
> and 41 other drivers are racing, we'll each put up $10 and....." isn't.
> Odds are good that neither our drivers will win. Then what? Not as
> interesting.
>
Nah - keep it simple - my driver's gonna beat your driver - got $20 that
says so...
--
-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net
Martin X. Moleski, SJ
>The crew chief for the the Steve Hatley #41 late model (recipient of mucho
>support from rasn'ers 'back in the day') and I used to flat wear out the
>same $5 bill on "My Dale is gonna beat yer Dale!" race after race. I won it
>most recently when DJ finished ahead of Ironhead in one of the last races at
>the 'Rock. Greg followed his wife Cathy in death shortly after that season.
>I still carry that $5, folded tightly in my wallet, and will never spend it.
Nice tribute to Greg!
May he and Cathy rest in peace.
Tom Duwe
news:X7Cdnbd92Isi_NfW...@supernews.com...
<snip>
> Nice tribute to Greg!
>
> May he and Cathy rest in peace.
>
> Marty
Thank you, Marty.
--
Tom in Bristol
Nancy2
> That takes you to bookie level betting with odds. �Works for horse racing,
> after all. �But even that's simpler: fewer variables (horse, jockey),
> smaller field, and quite uncommon that one horse "wrecks" and takes other
> horses out of the race. �Much harder to predict with a 43 car field and
> variables of driver, pit crew, crew chief, the machine itself and "da big
> one"......
>
> --pig
I laughed at the guy in Miami who told me betting on dogs only gets
you a win if you know which one pooped the last.... ;-)
N.