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John McCoy
Oct 6, 2014, 7:00:02 PM10/6/14
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In the second stage, up to 3 race winners advance, and at
least five drivers advance on points.
In for sure:
Logano (1 win)
In good shape:
Busch, Edwards, Newman, Hamlin, Harvick, Gordon, Kenseth, Kahne
In danger:
Keselowski (-22 points), Earnhardt (-25), Johnson (-27)
The results of the first stage suggest that it's hard to come back
from an early disaster, altho these three are not as far back as
Almirola was. And, of course, there's always Talladega...
John
least five drivers advance on points.
In for sure:
Logano (1 win)
In good shape:
Busch, Edwards, Newman, Hamlin, Harvick, Gordon, Kenseth, Kahne
In danger:
Keselowski (-22 points), Earnhardt (-25), Johnson (-27)
The results of the first stage suggest that it's hard to come back
from an early disaster, altho these three are not as far back as
Almirola was. And, of course, there's always Talladega...
John
bob.p...@gmail.com
Oct 6, 2014, 11:40:02 PM10/6/14
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On Monday, October 6, 2014 7:00:02 PM UTC-4, John McCoy wrote:
> In danger:
>
> Keselowski (-22 points), Earnhardt (-25), Johnson (-27)
Wow! Whoda thunk any of these three, much less all three of them, would be
> In danger:
>
> Keselowski (-22 points), Earnhardt (-25), Johnson (-27)
the ones in trouble at this stage.
>
> The results of the first stage suggest that it's hard to come back
> from an early disaster, altho these three are not as far back as
> Almirola was. And, of course, there's always Talladega...
>
winning or at least getting a solid top 10 finish. If Harvick, Kenseth, Gordon,
or especially Kahne have trouble at Charlotte, they could be in the hot seat
heading to Dega.
I'll be REALLY surprised if 2, 88 and 48 all miss the next cut.
John McCoy
Oct 7, 2014, 7:00:01 PM10/7/14
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bob.p...@gmail.com wrote in
news:3a85d310-16ab-4e1b...@googlegroups.com:
Well, I think why they're in the danger zone is that they
_do_ have to win to get out of it. The evidence of the
first round is that it's hard to make up a bunch of points.
Sure those guys can get solid top 10 finishes, but so can
all of their competition. And making up 5 or even 10 points
per race won't be enough.
But I'd also be surprised if all three of them drop out.
John
news:3a85d310-16ab-4e1b...@googlegroups.com:
_do_ have to win to get out of it. The evidence of the
first round is that it's hard to make up a bunch of points.
Sure those guys can get solid top 10 finishes, but so can
all of their competition. And making up 5 or even 10 points
per race won't be enough.
But I'd also be surprised if all three of them drop out.
John
John McCoy
Oct 12, 2014, 9:10:03 AM10/12/14
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In the second stage, up to 3 race winners advance, and at
least five drivers advance on points.
In for sure:
Logano (1 win)
Harvick (1)
least five drivers advance on points.
In for sure:
Logano (1 win)
In good shape:
Busch, Newman, Edwards, Gordon, Hamlin
In danger:
Kahne, Kenseth
Probably out:
Keselowski (-19 points), Johnson (-26), Earnhardt (-26)
Realisticly the only way for the last 3 to advance is to win
a race. And that means at least 2 of them will not advance.
Kahne and Kenseth are seperated by one point, whichever one
finishes best at Talladega will probably advance.
John
a425couple
Oct 13, 2014, 12:30:02 PM10/13/14
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"John McCoy" <igo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message...
I thank you John, for trying to explain.
And, I think you do a real good job of it.
But,,,,,, sheesh, they (NASCAR) have made it just too complicated,
and such a silly multi-stage process.
I'm caring less this year than normal.
And, I think you do a real good job of it.
But,,,,,, sheesh, they (NASCAR) have made it just too complicated,
and such a silly multi-stage process.
I'm caring less this year than normal.
John McCoy
Oct 13, 2014, 3:10:02 PM10/13/14
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"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:m1gu3...@news4.newsguy.com:
> But,,,,,, sheesh, they (NASCAR) have made it just too complicated,
> and such a silly multi-stage process.
> I'm caring less this year than normal.
I understand what you say, but I actually like this version of
the Chase. Yeah, it's not a real championship when the result
is based on just one race, but it is interesting to see who can
advance and who doesn't.
Aside from that, tho, I'm also in the caring less group. The
races themselves are not that interesting, and won't be until
NASCAR fixes the car (which they don't seem to understand how
to do, based on the recent rules announcement).
It would be a lot more interesting if the rules let the guys
who are "in danger" try something radical to make up ground.
As it is, you don't see the guys in trouble really appearing
to make much effort to advance (I'm sure they are trying, but
they just don't have options to really do much).
John
news:m1gu3...@news4.newsguy.com:
> But,,,,,, sheesh, they (NASCAR) have made it just too complicated,
> and such a silly multi-stage process.
> I'm caring less this year than normal.
the Chase. Yeah, it's not a real championship when the result
is based on just one race, but it is interesting to see who can
advance and who doesn't.
Aside from that, tho, I'm also in the caring less group. The
races themselves are not that interesting, and won't be until
NASCAR fixes the car (which they don't seem to understand how
to do, based on the recent rules announcement).
It would be a lot more interesting if the rules let the guys
who are "in danger" try something radical to make up ground.
As it is, you don't see the guys in trouble really appearing
to make much effort to advance (I'm sure they are trying, but
they just don't have options to really do much).
John
John McCoy
Oct 20, 2014, 8:20:02 AM10/20/14
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Well, I think Bob wins again, having picked Kahne and Busch
as two of the four drivers to miss the cut this round.
The surviving eight:
Logano (1 win)
Harvick (1)
Keselowski (1)
Newman
Hamlin
Kenseth
Edwards
Gordon
Picking the next four to drop out is a real challenge (and
I haven't done so well in the previous rounds), but I'll
guess Newman, Hamlin, Edwards, and Keselowski.
John
as two of the four drivers to miss the cut this round.
The surviving eight:
Logano (1 win)
Harvick (1)
Newman
Hamlin
Kenseth
Edwards
Gordon
Picking the next four to drop out is a real challenge (and
I haven't done so well in the previous rounds), but I'll
guess Newman, Hamlin, Edwards, and Keselowski.
John
a425couple
Oct 20, 2014, 3:00:02 PM10/20/14
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"John McCoy" <igo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message...
> The surviving eight:
> Logano (1 win)
> Harvick (1)
> Keselowski (1)
> Newman
> Hamlin
> Kenseth
> Edwards
> Gordon
So, Kahne, Earnhart, and Jimmie Johnson are all out?
> Logano (1 win)
> Harvick (1)
> Keselowski (1)
> Newman
> Hamlin
> Kenseth
> Edwards
> Gordon
I thought they said they were going to reward winning more?
Hmmmm,,,, if I read this corectly,,,,
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/sprint-cup-series/standings.html
Johnson and Earnhart won 3 races each.
But they are out of it. As is Kahne with 1 win.
Meanwhile (as I'm seeing it??) Newman & Kenseth have not
won any, and are still in it!!!!
This system seems silly, confusing & arbitrary to me.
John McCoy
Oct 20, 2014, 6:00:02 PM10/20/14
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"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:m23lr...@news3.newsguy.com:
> So, Kahne, Earnhart, and Jimmie Johnson are all out?
Yep.
> I thought they said they were going to reward winning more?
Indeed they are.
> Johnson and Earnhart won 3 races each.
> But they are out of it. As is Kahne with 1 win.
But Johnson, Earnhardt, and Kahne have won no races
during the Chase. Hence, no reward.
John
news:m23lr...@news3.newsguy.com:
> So, Kahne, Earnhart, and Jimmie Johnson are all out?
> I thought they said they were going to reward winning more?
> Johnson and Earnhart won 3 races each.
> But they are out of it. As is Kahne with 1 win.
during the Chase. Hence, no reward.
John
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