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a425couple

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Jul 31, 2012, 12:06:15 PM7/31/12
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Off the Topic of auto sport, a Gold medal in a different sport
that requires quick reaction times and excellent hand & eye
coordination.

from
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2012/07/kim-rhode-breaks-record-the-american-way-a-gun-shooting-sport.html
& might see also wiki entry on Kim Rhode (born July 16 1979).

"Under a drizzly gray sky, Kim Rhode on Sunday became the first American
athlete to win five medals in an individual event in five consecutive
Olympic Games."

Very nice accomplishment!
Won gold at age 17 (some say she was still 16 for that 1st),
bronze at 21, gold at 25, silver at 29, and now gold again at age 33!

Hmm, winning something again at age 37 would seem quite possible.

She & father think so, what a great attitude!
"Rhode was 50-for-50 in the first two rounds of 25 and missed her
only target in the third round. "The one that got away," she sighed
behind the broad smile that opens her face like a sunflower. "I wish
I could come up with, you know, 'The sun was in my eyes, the rain
hit my glasses,' but it just comes down to, sometimes you just miss.
I wish I could take it back and go for it. A hundred would have been
really cool, but it just leaves something for 2016."

Yes, the Rio Games. Her father and primary coach, Richard, said he
thinks Kim could have three or four more Olympics in her. (She noted
to reporters that the oldest-ever Olympic medalist was 72-year-old
shooter Oscar Swahn of Sweden, who bagged a silver in the quaintly
named 100-meter running deer double shots in 1920.)"

Hmm, not finding it on google right now,
how close did Stirling Moss come to going to Olympics?
Was it in skeet or trap?

Mike Marlow

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Jul 31, 2012, 1:02:35 PM7/31/12
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a425couple wrote:
> Off the Topic of auto sport, a Gold medal in a different sport
> that requires quick reaction times and excellent hand & eye
> coordination.
>
> from
> http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2012/07/kim-rhode-breaks-record-the-american-way-a-gun-shooting-sport.html
> & might see also wiki entry on Kim Rhode (born July 16 1979).
>

It's cool when any one of us get excited about something outside of the
group and just want to share it. It's better though, to simply post a link
and not the entire article. I know - lots of people post articles, but
that's just because the netiquette of old is lost on so many today...

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-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net


Brian Lawrence

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Jul 31, 2012, 4:02:11 PM7/31/12
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On 31/07/2012 17:06, a425couple wrote:

> Hmm, not finding it on google right now,
> how close did Stirling Moss come to going to Olympics?
> Was it in skeet or trap?

It was Jackie Stewart who was a world class shot. Wiki says it was for trap
in 1960 (Rome). The guy who was chosen instead, finished joint 5th. Jim
Clark finished 4th - seriously, look it up

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Brian W Lawrence
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David Melville

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Jul 31, 2012, 7:10:39 PM7/31/12
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Then again, we've also lost 33kbps dialup too, which was kind of the
point of that "rule", no?

And the post is clearly marked "OT".

Cheers,
Dave

Dumas Walker

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Jul 31, 2012, 7:00:13 PM7/31/12
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To: Mike Marlow

> It's cool when any one of us get excited about something outside of the grou
> and just want to share it. It's better though, to simply post a link and no
> the entire article. I know - lots of people post articles, but that's just
> because the netiquette of old is lost on so many today...

Curious, how long have you been using the 'net?
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Dumas Walker

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Jul 31, 2012, 7:00:56 PM7/31/12
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To: Brian Lawrence
> It was Jackie Stewart who was a world class shot. Wiki says it was for trap
> 1960 (Rome). The guy who was chosen instead, finished joint 5th. Jim Clark
> finished 4th - seriously, look it up

That is awesome. :)

Don Del Grande

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Jul 31, 2012, 7:36:45 PM7/31/12
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a425couple wrote:

>Off the Topic of auto sport, a Gold medal in a different sport
>that requires quick reaction times and excellent hand & eye
>coordination.
>
>from
>http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2012/07/kim-rhode-breaks-record-the-american-way-a-gun-shooting-sport.html
>& might see also wiki entry on Kim Rhode (born July 16 1979).

I found it ironic that NBC aired her medal ceremony two or three times
(on different networks, I think), as back in 1996, her win was just
about the only event out of the 40+ golds the USA won where they
DIDN'T air the medal ceremony.

-- Don

Noj

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Jul 31, 2012, 7:39:25 PM7/31/12
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a425couple wrote ...

>
> Off the Topic of auto sport, a Gold medal in a different sport
> that requires quick reaction times and excellent hand & eye
> coordination.


Fuck me. Septic plays with guns and no one gets hit. That has to be a
first.

Mike Marlow

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Jul 31, 2012, 11:47:49 PM7/31/12
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That was only a part of the reason. The other part was that netiquette
thing.

--

-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net


David Melville

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Aug 1, 2012, 1:48:42 AM8/1/12
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Understood. My position is that the point of netiquette raised was
perhaps formed owing to snails-pace download speeds which could lead to
enormous ire when a downloaded post proved to be off-topic. The same idea
drives the whole "learn to snip" tick offs one sees. I just think that in
these days of broadband, the problem has disappeared.

But I take your point. No singing at, and no elbows on, the table.

Cheers,
Dave

Dumas Walker

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Aug 1, 2012, 4:44:18 PM8/1/12
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To: David Melville
> Understood. My position is that the point of netiquette raised was perhaps
> formed owing to snails-pace download speeds which could lead to enormous ire
> when a downloaded post proved to be off-topic. The same idea drives the
> whole "learn to snip" tick offs one sees. I just think that in these days of
> broadband, the problem has disappeared.

I have been reading the newsgroups since before the GUI WWW existed. Back
then, you came here to read the news. You didn't follow "links" because there
were not many places to "link" to.

Later, when the GUI WWW came into the picture, with the slower modems it was
still easier to read the news in the newsgroups. It was in plain text and
loaded faster here. Waiting for some GUI page to load was the pits.

I have read sci.space.news for years. It still has plenty of full
press-releases in it. No one forces people to read the whole message. To me,
proper netiquette would be to skip messages I don't want to read and not
complain about it.

Personally, I enjoyed reading about the Gold Medalist here, rather than to have
to click something and wait for it to load up.

WebSlave

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Aug 1, 2012, 7:15:00 PM8/1/12
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a425couple wrote:

> Off the Topic of auto sport, a Gold medal in a different sport
> that requires quick reaction times and excellent hand & eye
> coordination.

I don't consider Skeet and Trap different sports. Both are shotgun
shooting for hurled clay targets. Slightly different, but don't
require that different skills. Different disciplines of the same
sport, rather.

I'm sure there are examples of olympic athletes that have won in two
completely different sports. While I can't remember one off the top of
my head, I introduce one that didn't. ;)

Finnish Tapio Rautavaara, who we Finns remember better as a singer and
actor, won a gold medal in London 1948 games in javelin (at the age of
33). After javelin, he took up archery and won gold with Finnish
archery team in World Championships ten years later. Two completely
different sports.

As for motor sports, Dakar winner and WRC driver Nasser Al-Attiyah
took bronze in Skeet in London Olympics on tuesday. Which is why he's
not driving in Rally Finland next weekend.

-Webs-



WebSlave

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Aug 1, 2012, 7:35:10 PM8/1/12
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WebSlave wrote:

> I'm sure there are examples of olympic athletes that have won
> in two completely different sports.

There are quite a few:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multiple_Olympic_medalists#Athletes_with_medals_in_different_disciplines

-Webs-

Sreekumar A

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Aug 2, 2012, 11:54:52 AM8/2/12
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On 08/01/12 4:15 PM, WebSlave wrote:
> a425couple wrote:
>
>> Off the Topic of auto sport, a Gold medal in a different sport
>> that requires quick reaction times and excellent hand& eye
>> coordination.
>
> I don't consider Skeet and Trap different sports. Both are shotgun
> shooting for hurled clay targets. Slightly different, but don't
> require that different skills. Different disciplines of the same
> sport, rather.
>
> I'm sure there are examples of olympic athletes that have won in two
> completely different sports. While I can't remember one off the top of
> my head, I introduce one that didn't. ;)
>
One of them is,
Wiggins in Cycling time trial yesterday and Individual Pursuit in
previous occasions.

Sreekumar

a425couple

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Aug 2, 2012, 12:09:37 PM8/2/12
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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlo...@windstream.net> wrote in message...
I do understand your point (and note in this particular case
your criticism was kind'a politely phrased).

I did not post the entire article.
I posted the lead. Then I posted the parts of two paragraphs
I found, that I was interested in discussing = her confidence,
acceptance of reality, and cheerful optimism.
But that idea/hope, is certainly derailed now.

I've been on the newsgroups for a long time, and things
change (and they are all dying!).
And was not, "the netiquette of old " based on standard
etiquette, ethics of manners?
Manners are the unenforced standards of conduct which demonstrate
that a person is proper, caring, non-grouchy, polite, and refined.

IMHO, any error you may spot, is vastly less harmful to the ngs,
than the harm that you cause with your routine postings with
criticisms of other posters.

Or, as Dumas said (abbreviated - you can find the whole if you wish)
"No one forces people to read the whole message. To me,
proper netiquette would be to skip messages I don't want to
read and not complain about it."

As "no way" asked you a bit back, "Who pissed in your
Wheaties?"

As you said of yourself, "Letting my shit stirring side out for a little
walk..."
Are you happily envisioning the future, where the very last original
post on the nascar newsgroup, earns yet another criticism from you?
Then quiet, R.I.P.

a425couple

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Aug 2, 2012, 12:20:07 PM8/2/12
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"Dumas Walker" <dumas....@capcity2.synchro.net> wrote in message...
Thank you my friend.

Oh, by the way, it turns out that Katheryn Legge did
race ovals, and in fact even led at Milwalkie
(no doubt due to pit stops!!!)

WebSlave

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Aug 2, 2012, 12:26:04 PM8/2/12
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Well yes, but it's still cycling. I know track cycling differs greatly
from road cycling, but it's still pretty much two forms of same sport.
Not as close as skeet and trap, but still. Not what I meant with "two
completely different sports" anyway.

-Webs-

John Briggs

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Aug 2, 2012, 1:00:31 PM8/2/12
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Same sport, different discipline?
--
John Briggs

Bigbird

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Aug 2, 2012, 2:29:53 PM8/2/12
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multiple_Olympic_gold_medalists

On the contrary I didn't spot any, post war at least; the closest being
the Russian biathlete.

Mike Marlow

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Aug 2, 2012, 2:52:02 PM8/2/12
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Ya know what - for all of the stuff you posted above, most of it was too
difficult to really figure out what you were trying to say, to be worth the
effort.

No matter - this group is just not what it was. I guess it's just time to
bail out. When people like you can post two to three times the text to
"justify" your personal preferences - then I get it - it's time for people
like me to pack up. Not that I have ever been any saint here, but I'm just
tired of what I'm seeing so I guess that means I should just bail.

See ya.

--

-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net


a425couple

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Aug 2, 2012, 5:30:38 PM8/2/12
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"Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_...@msn.com> wrote in message...
> On 31/07/2012 17:06, a425couple wrote:
>> Hmm, not finding it on google right now,
>> how close did Stirling Moss come to going to Olympics?
>> Was it in skeet or trap?
>
> It was Jackie Stewart who was a world class shot.

Yes, thank you again my friend.
IMHO, here is an excellent read re: Jackie Stewart
trap shooting, driving, and success.
http://www.reuters.com/london-olympics-2012/articles/shooting/2012/07/11/games-remind-f1-great-stewart-rare-failure

> It was Jackie Stewart who was a world class shot. Wiki says it was for
> trap
> in 1960 (Rome). The guy who was chosen instead, finished joint 5th. Jim
> Clark finished 4th - seriously, look it up

I'll always believe you,,,, but when you say "seriously, look it up",
uhhh, I tried & failed. (easily found top 3, then ~)
Was it perhaps a different Jim Clark than the one we first thought of?

a425couple

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Aug 2, 2012, 10:54:58 PM8/2/12
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"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message...
> Off the Topic of auto sport, a Gold medal in a different sport
> that requires quick reaction times and excellent hand & eye
> coordination.
Wow!! Gold medal with a shotgun,
and now Autoweek informs us she is a fellow car nut!!!

The story is in the August 6, 2012 Autoweek,
titled "Rhode Warrior" by Mark Vaughn.
Sorry, I can not find a link to it.
Long ago she built a 427 engine, then built the rest of
car with a Cobra kit. Her collection includes a 56 T-bird.

Here is a link to some pictures:
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=CW&Date=20120730&Category=CARNEWS&ArtNo=730009998&Ref=PH&Params=Itemnr=1

a425couple

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Aug 2, 2012, 11:03:10 PM8/2/12
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"WebSlave" <websla...@mail.com> wrote in message...
> a425couple wrote:
>> Off the Topic of auto sport, a Gold medal in a different sport
>> that requires quick reaction times and excellent hand & eye
>> coordination.
>
> I don't consider Skeet and Trap different sports.

I'm sorry I was not clear enough.
I was meaning shooting is a different sport than
the newsgroup subjects of auto racing (F1, indy or nascar).

> As for motor sports, Dakar winner and WRC driver Nasser Al-Attiyah
> took bronze in Skeet in London Olympics on tuesday. Which is why he's
> not driving in Rally Finland next weekend.

Yes, thank you for pointing out even more overlap
between auto racing & shooting.

Brian Lawrence

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Aug 3, 2012, 10:01:05 AM8/3/12
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Well he was American and he's billed as James Clark :-)

I thought Wikipedia would have the full results, but apparently not. I
didn't look very hard anywhere else online, but it can be found in the
Official Report here (11Mb pdf file):


"http://www.la84foundation.org/6oic/OfficialReports/1960/OR1960v2pt2.pdf"

Pages 426-30.

Brian Lawrence

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Aug 3, 2012, 1:00:58 PM8/3/12
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I forgot to add to earlier posts in this thread.

I recall posting four years ago about F1 drivers and/or people
associated with F1 who competed at the Olympic Games. I can't
locate what I wrote then, but off hand I can think of three maybe four.

A couple of clues - don't forget winter sports, and one person in my
mind was seen at an event this week. And thinking 'aloud', that person
is related to a gold medalist from may years ago.

brafield

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Aug 3, 2012, 2:10:42 PM8/3/12
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On Aug 2, 8:03 pm, "a425couple" <a425cou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "WebSlave" <webslaven...@mail.com> wrote in message...
> > a425couple wrote:
> >> Off the Topic of auto sport, a Gold medal in a different sport
> >> that requires quick reaction times and excellent hand & eye
> >> coordination.
>
> > I don't consider Skeet and Trap different sports.

I hadn't seen "clay pigeon shooting" as I used to call it, for some 40
years. Then, thanks to this thread, I came across a 40-minute piece
on the 2012 World Cup of women's skeet shooting. Wow. The speed and
focus of these comtestants is awesome. Danka Bartekova especialy is a
delight to watch, especially on those two-different-trajectory
shots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEaB9dIQHG4&feature=fvst

~M~

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Aug 3, 2012, 9:12:27 PM8/3/12
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"Mike Marlow" wrote in message
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>That was only a part of the reason. The other part was that netiquette
>thing.

Personally, I would rather read it here than have to click on the link. I
can always click on the link if I want to visit the web site. Usenet needs
to catch up with the past decade.

--
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else they see as poverty - while others such as myself see it as paradise"
- Tommy Joe, 4/14/2012

Bigbird

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Aug 4, 2012, 1:29:04 AM8/4/12
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~M~ wrote:

> "Mike Marlow" wrote in message
> news:88a82$5018a87b$4b75eb81$67...@ALLTEL.NET...
>
>
> > That was only a part of the reason. The other part was that
> > netiquette thing.
>
> Personally, I would rather read it here than have to click on the
> link. I can always click on the link if I want to visit the web site.
> Usenet needs to catch up with the past decade.

Just gng to wlk the dogs. LOL

Dumas Walker

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Aug 6, 2012, 10:15:57 AM8/6/12
to a425couple
To: a425couple
> Thank you my friend.

N/p.

> Oh, by the way, it turns out that Katheryn Legge did
> race ovals, and in fact even led at Milwalkie
> (no doubt due to pit stops!!!)

Hmmm, well I am not sure what logic they are using then. :D I think being
considered a rookie can lead to some extra money if you win ROY, so I guess
maybe it is not all bad.

Dumas Walker

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Aug 6, 2012, 10:27:08 AM8/6/12
to Bigbird
To: Bigbird
> > I can always click on the link if I want to visit the web site. Usen needs
> > to catch up with the past decade.
>
> Just gng to wlk the dogs. LOL

Gud 1. LOL

Dumas Walker

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Aug 6, 2012, 10:31:21 AM8/6/12
to a425couple
To: a425couple
> Wow!! Gold medal with a shotgun,
> and now Autoweek informs us she is a fellow car nut!!!
>
> The story is in the August 6, 2012 Autoweek,
> titled "Rhode Warrior" by Mark Vaughn.
> Sorry, I can not find a link to it.
> Long ago she built a 427 engine, then built the rest of
> car with a Cobra kit. Her collection includes a 56 T-bird.
>
> Here is a link to some pictures:
> http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=CW&Date=20120730&Category
> RNEWS&ArtNo=730009998&Ref=PH&Params=Itemnr=1

She's dreamy! :D

Brian Lawrence

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Aug 10, 2012, 8:26:34 AM8/10/12
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On 31/07/2012 21:02, Brian Lawrence wrote:
> On 31/07/2012 17:06, a425couple wrote:
>
>> Hmm, not finding it on google right now,
>> how close did Stirling Moss come to going to Olympics?
>> Was it in skeet or trap?
>
> It was Jackie Stewart who was a world class shot. Wiki says it was for trap
> in 1960 (Rome). The guy who was chosen instead, finished joint 5th. Jim
> Clark finished 4th - seriously, look it up

I've been watching sport for several hours a day, so I only just got
around to digging out Sir Jackie's autobiography. The Wiki article says
that his replacement, Joe Wheater, finished fifth, which he did, but he
wasn't exactly a replacement.

The selection process involved several competitions with the top two
shooters being chosen to represent Britain in trap. Going into the final
competition at the North Wales gun club, Wheater led from Jackie, who
says he was 'lying a strong second'. The competition was on Saturday 11
June 1960, his 21st birthday. There were 100 shots in four rounds of 25.
He says that at the time he thought a score of 92 would be enough, and
he was easily capable of that. However, he shot 24, then 23, but then
only 18 in the 3rd. He recovered to score 23 in the final for a total of
88. When the announcement was made Joe Wheater was first choice, with
Brett Huthart getting the 2nd spot. JYS was named as first reserve. He
doesn't really know what caused his relatively poor performance in round 3.

In Rome, both Wheater & Huthart got through the qualifying. Wheater was
joint 6th with 93 and Huthart joint 31st with 86. The final was decided
over 200 shots, the medals were won with 192, 191 & 190. Wheater in
joint 5th scored 185 and Huthart finished joint 12th with 181.
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