best F1 commentator?
john walsh
Allright guys, Ive heard enough bitching from everyone about which
commentators suck. Whos the best?
phil houseago
john walsh wrote:
>
> Allright guys, Ive heard enough bitching from everyone about which
> commentators suck. Whos the best?
martin brundle does pretty well too...
Jak
john walsh wrote:
>
> Allright guys, Ive heard enough bitching from everyone about which
> commentators suck. Whos the best?
No question. The great Murray Walker.
Documentary on ITV, tonight 10:40 (or regional variations)
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phil houseago writes
>john walsh wrote:
>>
>> Allright guys, Ive heard enough bitching from everyone about which
>> commentators suck. Whos the best?
>martin brundle does pretty well too...
Ben Edwards - Eurosport 1996 and before
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Mark Orr
I like Murray Walker..but he's better when paired with Brundle. I think the
two of them do an excellent job.
Mark
Tom Cosgrave
Murray Walker....
He's done it longer than a lot of use
here have been alive!!
Tom
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Walker and Brundle both go together like beer and crisps!!!
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john walsh wrote:
> Allright guys, Ive heard enough bitching from everyone about which
> commentators suck. Whos the best?
Olav Mol together with Alard Kalff (also a driver) on RTL4 for the Dutch
comments....
Thierry
Peter Fisla
john walsh <RACE...@webtv.net> wrote in article
<6dg7hl$jgj$1...@newsd-161.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
> Allright guys, Ive heard enough bitching from everyone about which
> commentators suck. Whos the best?
>
Martin Brlundle....
here is why (from my point of view) :
1) he knows his stuff...doesn't talk for the whole race..you actually can
enjoy
some racing without some comments...
2) he has a great sense of humor...
my wish (I know it won't work) is:
comentators: M. Brundle & J. Palmer
Peter
Rogue
john walsh wrote in message <6dg7hl$jgj$1...@newsd-161.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
Allright guys, Ive heard enough bitching from everyone about which
commentators suck. Whos the best?
The best of all time is..........drum role
please......................................................................
Murray Walker and James Hunt. Ying and Yang. Sweet and Sour. Balanced each
others weaknesses perfectly. Murray called the races with enthusiasim, and
James called things the way they were. When Murray would go to far, James
would pull him back. When James would go to far, Murray wouls steer him in
the right direction. I MISS JAMES HUNT. Better stop now, I'm getting all
misty. <snif> Sorry.
Rogue
"... and he calls himself a CHAMPION!!!"
Nige' at the 92 Canadian GP
Bruce
No question. Anyone but Murray Walker.
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Jak <n...@anywhere.you.know.of> wrote in article
<34FC80...@anywhere.you.know.of>...
> john walsh wrote:
> >
> > Allright guys, Ive heard enough bitching from everyone about which
> > commentators suck. Whos the best?
>
Bruce
And therein sits the problem!
Time he was pensioned off.
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on."
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Tom Cosgrave <t...@indigo.ie.remove> wrote in article
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Dallas D.
Tom! Did you say "use"? Have you been watching Sha-na-na reruns again?
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john walsh wrote in message <6dg7hl$jgj$1...@newsd-161.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
Marco Aurelio da Costa Soeima
I really enjoyed John Watson, and that Dutch (sp?) guy who co-commentated
with him before the SAD Ben Edwards took over... Anyone know who the Dutch
guy is and where he is at?
Marco Soeima
Portela, Portugal
Peter Scoular
mark jeangerard writes
>Hands down, Bob Varsha and Derek Bell.
>Varsha has a hard earned (at least in F1) intuitive knack for seeing into a
>situation. Almost always calls it on the first shot no matter how weird the
Mark may I respectfully remark that you may want to set "word wrap" in
your Outlook express software as your posts run off the end of the
screen.
regards
madelon
You might mean Bert Devies????? He is still on Eurosport, commentating races
for Holland... But I can assure you.... he is really BAD......
But if you mean somebody else.... then I don't know....
madelon
Thierry Jans wrote:
> john walsh wrote:
>
> > Allright guys, Ive heard enough bitching from everyone about which
> > commentators suck. Whos the best?
>
> Olav Mol together with Alard Kalff (also a driver) on RTL4 for the Dutch
> comments....
> Thierry
I agree with Thierry.... only Allard is with double l....
We don't have many other Dutch commentators anyway, or you have to count
Bert Devies... but he is SO BAD..... you don't eaven wanna know...
Madelon
Matthew Knutsen
Marco Aurelio da Costa Soeima wrote:
> I really enjoyed John Watson, and that Dutch (sp?) guy who
> co-commentated
> with him before the SAD Ben Edwards took over... Anyone know who the
> Dutch
(snip)
Allard Kalff was ok, I think he's racing a Mitsubishi in the Dutch TCC.
However, for the best F1 commentary, nothing beats Clive James on the
official F1 tapes (1985?)
Bring him back! Live!
(Commenting on two cars coming up to lap Andrea de Cesaris at Brands):
"Some say it was a case of two brains against one, some say the odds
were even greater"
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madelon wrote:
> Marco Aurelio da Costa Soeima wrote:
>
> > I really enjoyed John Watson, and that Dutch (sp?) guy who
> co-commentated
> > with him before the SAD Ben Edwards took over... Anyone know who the
> Dutch
> > guy is and where he is at?
> >
> > Marco Soeima
> > Portela, Portugal
>
> You might mean Bert Devies????? He is still on Eurosport,
> commentating races
> for Holland... But I can assure you.... he is really BAD......
> But if you mean somebody else.... then I don't know....
You mean Allard Kalff - yes,he was very good,very enthusiastic and of
course, having
a lot of personal racing experience,very knowlegeable.And his English
was immaculate,
even though one correspondent in Autosport thought he was a Seff
Effriken !
Doc
Kimmo
On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Jak wrote:
> john walsh wrote:
> >
> > Allright guys, Ive heard enough bitching from everyone about which
> > commentators suck. Whos the best?
>
> No question. The great Murray Walker.
>
> Documentary on ITV, tonight 10:40 (or regional variations)
>
> --
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>
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>
Best commentator is Matti Kyllonen on MTV3 in Finland!!!
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nomaD
On Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:21:41 -0800, RACE...@webtv.net (john walsh)
wrote:
>Allright guys, Ive heard enough bitching from everyone about which
>commentators suck. Whos the best?
For laughs ; Murray Walker
For Info ; John Watson & Ben Edwards
nomaD
LuisC
J Watson is the best ,and the Eurosport had the best F1 coverage.
David Sidwell
On Wed, 04 Mar 1998 22:04:42 +0000, LuisC <nop3...@mail.telepac.pt>
wrote:
>J Watson is the best ,and the Eurosport had the best F1 coverage.
I guess you have only seen/heard John Watson so your comparisons are
very limited ? :)
BBC1 had THE best F1 coverage until last season.
No GP is the same without hearing Murray Walker commentate.
James Hunt was by far the best straightman to Murray's accidental
comedy. Brundle is a close second.
Personally I would like to strangle Watson, Bell, Varsha...
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Tom Cosgrave
In article <01bd4702$95c58b20$f6fe...@9417002.netspeed.com.au>,
bru...@netspeed.com.au was heard to utter...
> No question. Anyone but Murray Walker.
Bruce,
I was always under the impression you liked Murray???
Tom Cosgrave
In article <01bd4702$f62ea280$f6fe...@9417002.netspeed.com.au>,
> Time he was pensioned off.
After the documentary on him on TV last night it is clear he makes his
errors from excitement. When calm he is never wrong, or at least I have
never seen him make a mistake.
Murray has a bit of time yet - but he knows it's not all that long.
Tom Cosgrave
In article <01bd4733$3d808920$45a0c7a3@kmdmkt012576>,
dda...@meat.nbs.co.za was heard to utter...
> Tom! Did you say "use"? Have you been watching Sha-na-na reruns again?
Yes - It was late when was writing :-)
Tom Cosgrave
In article <6diurl$d...@hume.nmia.com>, chas...@nmia.com.us was heard to
utter...
> Watson blows like mad. He's already killed one of my dogs with his =
> droning.=20
I dunno about Varsha and Bell, but at least Watson knows what it's like
to race and win a GP. All the cpommentaries I heard from him were
excellent...a highly knowledgable person.
I think Americans are having a hard time understanding the Northern Irish
accent he has!!!!
Mark it'd be nice if you cut the MIME and HTML - saves me having to wade
thru a lot of crap.
guru
Mike Tighe wrote:
>
> On Wed, 04 Mar 1998 22:04:42 +0000, LuisC <nop3...@mail.telepac.pt>
> wrote:
> >J Watson is the best ,and the Eurosport had the best F1 coverage.
>
> it's failings (like the late scheduling changes that used to catch me
> out)..
>
> In the good old days, I would watch the live qualifying and warm up on
> Eurosport.
>
> For the races, it was BBC pictures, with Murray Walker and James Hunt
> turned up medium loud, but with John Watson and Allard Kalfe running
> through the hi-fi speakers from the video. With a little bit of
> juggling on the remote control, I could listen to both (all four?!)
> (kind of) and turn up whichever was most interesting at the time, to
> drown out the others (sorry to anyone who was living within a 50M
> radius).
>
> The John Watson/Ben Edwards combination beat a James Huntless Murray
> Walker + whoever team. However, with Martin Brundle's arrival, I
> think my neighbours had a lucky escape when Eurosport withdrew their
> coverage last year.
>
> I don't feel that much older, but I don't think I could concentrate
> hard enough to follow both now, so Murray and Martin do just fine -
> now, if we could get rid of those ***** ITV adverts...
>
> And if only there was a post meeting magazine roundup like Eurosport
> used to do.
>
> Mike Tighe
> Speaking from the bottom left
> hand corner of the big picture.
John Watson talks sooo much - and repeats more - and is off topic and
too loud and too much. He is simply the worst in the history of
formula one. period. Oh - unless you like non stop bullshit.
guru
David Sidwell wrote:
>
> On Wed, 04 Mar 1998 22:04:42 +0000, LuisC <nop3...@mail.telepac.pt>
> wrote:
>
> >J Watson is the best ,and the Eurosport had the best F1 coverage.
>
> very limited ? :)
>
> BBC1 had THE best F1 coverage until last season.
>
> No GP is the same without hearing Murray Walker commentate.
>
> James Hunt was by far the best straightman to Murray's accidental
> comedy. Brundle is a close second.
>
> Personally I would like to strangle Watson, Bell, Varsha...
> (remove .SpamMeNot to reply by email)
> "Well, if you had Michael Schumacher up your backside for one-and-a-half hours you would be mentally drained!!" Alan Jones commentating on the 1997 San Marino GP.
> "while I have never used a pole-axe I have had some experience with farm animals, yes." Favourite quote from spider (aka Cal) in an rasf1 1997 post.
stangle watson and bell the team from hell...varsha would be ok without
numb nuts bell
guru
LuisC wrote:
>
> J Watson is the best ,and the Eurosport had the best F1 coverage.
john watson is the most hideous non stop stooopid ridiculous
sportscasters in history. does he ever shut the hell up ????? he makes
us vomit and barf. Bell is a close second
Mike Tighe
>J Watson is the best ,and the Eurosport had the best F1 coverage.
I agree, and really miss the deeper coverage of Eurosport, for all
Rich DeYoung
Watson is marginal, I respected Bell a great deal from his sports
car days, but I'm rapidly loosing all respect for the man. He's been
around and done and seen a few things, but DAMN does he go ON and ON.
Varsha was good, kept it simple, didn't add any BS, bring him back.
I miss Jackie Stewart from my youth on ESPN (when that's all there
was!), can't remember if he was really that great at commentating, I was
pretty new to it all then.
BTW, does anybody remember way back when during an ESPN broadcast
before the race they introduced a bunch of famous international F1
broadcasters as "the Jackie Stewart of .....?"
Rich DeYoung
Ric...@webtv.net
Choctaw, OK
Nanker Phelge
guru wrote:
>
> David Sidwell wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 04 Mar 1998 22:04:42 +0000, LuisC <nop3...@mail.telepac.pt>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >J Watson is the best ,and the Eurosport had the best F1 coverage.
> >
> > very limited ? :)
> >
> > BBC1 had THE best F1 coverage until last season.
> >
> > No GP is the same without hearing Murray Walker commentate.
> >
> > James Hunt was by far the best straightman to Murray's accidental
> > comedy. Brundle is a close second.
> >
> > Personally I would like to strangle Watson, Bell, Varsha...
> > (remove .SpamMeNot to reply by email)
> > "Well, if you had Michael Schumacher up your backside for one-and-a-half hours you would be mentally drained!!" Alan Jones commentating on the 1997 San Marino GP.
> > "while I have never used a pole-axe I have had some experience with farm animals, yes." Favourite quote from spider (aka Cal) in an rasf1 1997 post.
>
> stangle watson and bell the team from hell...varsha would be ok without
> numb nuts bell
I agree. I usually like Varsha (he's good with facts, not so much a
color commentator). When he teamed up with Eddie Cheever I think this
was the best combination.
Gunter Roland
In article <34FE4D...@earthlink.net>, guru <mkt...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Mike Tighe wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 Mar 1998 22:04:42 +0000, LuisC <nop3...@mail.telepac.pt>
>> wrote:
>> >J Watson is the best ,and the Eurosport had the best F1 coverage.
>>
>> it's failings (like the late scheduling changes that used to catch me
>> out)..
>John Watson talks sooo much - and repeats more - and is off topic and
>too loud and too much. He is simply the worst in the history of
>formula one. period. Oh - unless you like non stop bullshit.
I still can't understand why people complain about Watson@ESPN
so much. Watson and Edwards at Eurosport were fantastic? Is there
anybody who remembers the Eurosport coverage and has heard
Watson now who can confirm that he has become much worse?
For the only GP I watched in the US last year (Canada) Watson
wasn't there.
Gunther
br...@thunder.indstate.edu
I think that Watson is one of the best. I would like to see him and
Bob Varsha work together.
nomaD
On Wed, 04 Mar 1998 12:03:04 +0100, madelon <m.m.a...@stud.tue.nl>
wrote:
>
>
>Thierry Jans wrote:
>
>> john walsh wrote:
>>
>> > Allright guys, Ive heard enough bitching from everyone about which
>> > commentators suck. Whos the best?
>>
>> Olav Mol together with Alard Kalff (also a driver) on RTL4 for the Dutch
>> comments....
>> Thierry
>
> I agree with Thierry.... only Allard is with double l....
>We don't have many other Dutch commentators anyway, or you have to count
>Bert Devies... but he is SO BAD..... you don't eaven wanna know...
>Madelon
Have you ever seen him ?? (B.Devies)
I could'nt believe my eyes, he looked soooooo different than I
imagined ;-)))))))
nomaD
tyr...@ibm.net
John Watson is the best I have heard. I only have USA listening experience.
Watson is a Ferrarri- Varsha is a Cadillac
Michael Stucker
In article <6dm9v3$7rm$1...@sunnews.cern.ch>, rol...@hpna49-1.cern.ch says...
>I still can't understand why people complain about Watson@ESPN
>so much. Watson and Edwards at Eurosport were fantastic? Is there
>anybody who remembers the Eurosport coverage and has heard
>Watson now who can confirm that he has become much worse?
>For the only GP I watched in the US last year (Canada) Watson
>wasn't there.
Watson just won't shut up!!! And most of what he talks about has nothing to
do with the race at hand. One race last year, he called Sterling Moss (in the
middle of the race -- prearranged I believe). They then proceeded to talk
about what the Mosses were going to have for dinner because Mrs. Moss is such
a wonderfull cook. This went on for about 20 minutes! (Of course, maybe ESPN
thought the race would be so boring, anything might help us all get through
it. :-)
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In article <34fdd681...@news.us.oracle.com> ,
Jame...@rocketmail.SpamMeNot.com (David Sidwell) wrote:
>>J Watson is the best ,and the Eurosport had the best F1 coverage.
>
> I guess you have only seen/heard John Watson so your comparisons are
> very limited ? :)
I have to say I kind of liked Watson (is he back?) and when compared to the
ITV commentary last season which was more professional I still think Watson
was/is more entertaining.
> BBC1 had THE best F1 coverage until last season.
That I have never seen so I can't comment on BBC.
However I have to say, not only as a finn but of all the F1 coverages I've
seen the absolutely most hilarious and entertaining commentator is Matti
Kyllonen of the finnish MTV3. Not only does he talk all the time, off-topic,
he gets over excited and his stupidity is pure genius.
Some of the best historical sessions include commentary where former WC Keke
Rosberberg keeps correcting him - there is even a lot of collections of his
commentry on the net, I don't know if anybody has translated them though.
Watson is nowhere even near to his level of babbling - and worst of all he
knows a little bit about racing...
Jamie Dyer
On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Gunter Roland wrote:
>
>I still can't understand why people complain about Watson@ESPN
>so much. Watson and Edwards at Eurosport were fantastic? Is there
>anybody who remembers the Eurosport coverage and has heard
>Watson now who can confirm that he has become much worse?
>For the only GP I watched in the US last year (Canada) Watson
>wasn't there.
>
Well I've heard:
Walker & Hunt
Walker & Brundle
Watson & Kalff
Watson & Edwards
Watson & Bell
And I rate them in the order I've placed them. I heard the ESPN2
coverage last season and I don't think Watson is worse than he used to
be, if anything he stays more on topic. I think it might be his accent
- which let's face it - isn't most people's idea of easy listening.
Bell I really don't like, however.
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mark jeangerard
regards
Peter Scoular wrote in message ...mark jeangerard writes
>Hands down, Bob Varsha and Derek Bell.
>Varsha has a hard earned (at least in F1) intuitive knack for seeing into a
>situation. Almost always calls it on the first shot no matter how weird the
snip
Mark may I respectfully remark that you may want to set "word wrap" in
your Outlook express software as your posts run off the end of the
screen.
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I love to bitch about him, but must admit Bob "Helmet Hair" Varsha does/did
a pretty good job. David Hobbs used to be a hoot a couple of years back w/
ESPN, but was pretty sedate on FOX in Oz.
The worst has to be ABC's Danny Sullivan, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Thierry Jans <Thierr...@wxs.nl> wrote in article
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John-Nicholas
Do you remember Mr. College Football, Keith Jackson, calling Monaco for ABC
?
"Lemme tell you about Ayrton Senna."
late,
j-n
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Michael Stucker
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says...
>Do you remember Mr. College Football, Keith Jackson, calling Monaco for ABC
>?
>
>"Lemme tell you about Ayrton Senna."
That's "Lemme tellllllll you about Ayrton Senna."
"Fumbullll!!!"
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