I REPEAT - FERRARI IS SHIT - PROVE ME WRONG ! ! !
Unicorn
As I said two weeks ago, Ferarri is the biggest piece of shit on the
track. I dont like swearing, but it is difficult to find a word
disgusting enough for the rubbish that these Italians are attempting
to put onto the international Grand Prix Circiuts.
Please dont give me the arugument that they cant be to bad, becuase
Shumi is in third posision. That means nothing. He is good, and
exept for that, the points that he has, was helped along a lot by the
bad or non performance of the williams.
I repeat ....
1. NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY PAY SHUMI, MONEY CANT MAKE SHIT DRIVE.
2. FERRARI SHOULD TAKE THEIR RUBBISH OF THE TRACK, AND PUT THE SHIT
INTO A MUSEUM FOR HAS BEENS, TOGTHER WITH JEAN TODD AND THE REST
OF THE FOSSILS WHO ARE STILL ATTEMPTING TO PUT THE RED RUBBISH ON
THE GRAND PRIX CIRCUIT. MAYBE IF THEY DO THAT, SOME PEOPLE IN
FUTURE MAY LOOK BACK WITH A LITTLE BIT OF RESPECT FOR THE FERRARI.
3. SHUMI SHOULD REFUSE TO DRIVE FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON, AND I
INSISTS ON HIS MONEY. THEY PROMISED HIM A DRIVEABLE CAR, BUT NO
PERSON WITH BRAINS COULD CALL THIS PIECE OF RED CRAP A RACING OR
DRIVEABLE CAR.
PLEASE GO TO THE FERRARI HOME PAGE AND LEAVE YOUR COMMENTS FOR THEM TO
READ. IT MAY INSPIRE THEM TO SHUT THE PAGE AND HOPEFULLY THEIR TEAM
DOWN.
Disgusted Disgusted Disgusted
*()(**%^##!&^*$*)T*$&*%%^#@$#@@(*%%^#^%%&*%%^#$%&(*
David Jones
Why the big suprise about Ferrari?
I mean look at Italy itself. Olivetti computers, Alfa Romeo/Fiat/Lancia cars, corrupt
politicians, crap internationl football, even worse economy than the UK.
It's not just Ferrari, its the whole country that is crap
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SK & FP Fitzgerald
Hmm, at least the paintwork is a nice colour!!!!
A dissapointed ferrrari fan who had a good laugh at Damon's silverstone
effort yesterday.
GAETAN MAES
uni...@igubu.saix.net (Unicorn) wrote:
>As I said two weeks ago, Ferarri is the biggest piece of shit on the
>track. I dont like swearing, but it is difficult to find a word
>disgusting enough for the rubbish that these Italians are attempting
>to put onto the international Grand Prix Circiuts.
>Please dont give me the arugument that they cant be to bad, becuase
>Shumi is in third posision. That means nothing. He is good, and
>exept for that, the points that he has, was helped along a lot by the
>bad or non performance of the williams.
>I repeat ....
>1. NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY PAY SHUMI, MONEY CANT MAKE SHIT DRIVE.
>2. FERRARI SHOULD TAKE THEIR RUBBISH OF THE TRACK, AND PUT THE SHIT
> INTO A MUSEUM FOR HAS BEENS, TOGTHER WITH JEAN TODD AND THE REST
> OF THE FOSSILS WHO ARE STILL ATTEMPTING TO PUT THE RED RUBBISH ON
> THE GRAND PRIX CIRCUIT. MAYBE IF THEY DO THAT, SOME PEOPLE IN
> FUTURE MAY LOOK BACK WITH A LITTLE BIT OF RESPECT FOR THE FERRARI.
>3. SHUMI SHOULD REFUSE TO DRIVE FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON, AND I
>INSISTS ON HIS MONEY. THEY PROMISED HIM A DRIVEABLE CAR, BUT NO
>PERSON WITH BRAINS COULD CALL THIS PIECE OF RED CRAP A RACING OR
>DRIVEABLE CAR.
>PLEASE GO TO THE FERRARI HOME PAGE AND LEAVE YOUR COMMENTS FOR THEM TO
>READ. IT MAY INSPIRE THEM TO SHUT THE PAGE AND HOPEFULLY THEIR TEAM
>DOWN.
Talking about rubbish, ... do I have to read whole your message?
Let's talk in 1997!!
Gaetan Maes
Ghostrider
> I mean look at Italy itself. Olivetti computers, Alfa Romeo/Fiat/Lancia cars
What have you to say about AR/F/L cars? If I'm not wrong (and I'm not),
Fiat won the Year's Car title for the last two years in a row.
> corrupt politicians,
Look at the pole in your eye, guy.
> even worse economy than the UK.
If you are interested in this, there's a lot of talking about this in
soc.culture.british, where the things are a bit different.
> It's not just Ferrari, its the whole country that is crap
Have you eaten some big steak, recently? Cow, I mean!
I think this is a good newsgroup about F1, but it isn't a good thing to
tangle with external arguments (if the arguments are those you are
speaking about!) Excuse me if I've been to rude.
Stefano
Stefano Fortunati
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Steffen Fischer
David Jones wrote:
>
> Why the big suprise about Ferrari?
> I mean look at Italy itself. Olivetti computers, Alfa Romeo/Fiat/Lancia cars, corrupt
> It's not just Ferrari, its the whole country that is crap
Mad cow disease, schizo nationalism, crap newspapers, ...?
What the hell is this discussion good for?
Regards
Steffen
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Alex Wilde
David Jones (Dav...@forave.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: Why the big suprise about Ferrari?
: I mean look at Italy itself. Olivetti computers, Alfa Romeo/Fiat/Lancia cars
: It's not just Ferrari, its the whole country that is crap
: --
You're treading on very dangerous ground there, my friend :^|
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Christopher Wilmot
>> Disgusted Disgusted Disgusted
>> *()(**%^##!&^*$*)T*$&*%%^#@$#@@(*%%^#^%%&*%%^#$%&(*
>
>
Farrari are shit, in previous seasons Farrari have been providing
Minardi with their old engines. So why did they stop,thy were making
lots of money. Because they realised minardi were going faster than them
with the same Engine the year before.
ps. Minardi have very good aerodynamics, the best in the lower teams.
--
Christopher Wilmot (A Mclaren FAN)
Scott Mansell
Jerry Gundrum
SNIP
>>: It's not just Ferrari, its the whole country that is crap
>>: --
>
>>You're treading on very dangerous ground there, my friend :^|
>
>
>> Team | email: awi...@cizeta.demon.co.uk | _I___r
>> // | A1200 50Mhz'030 1.1G 14Mb | __/ | /|_
>> \X/ | Pro-Flex 752 Full Suspension | /__\_|_//| \
>> AMIGA | Meridian 506 & some other stuff. | \__/ P \__/
>
>Lets face it, the prancing horse sucks
Did anyone else see the sign that said "POOR SCHUMI AND HIS RED SLED"
Dave Louw
Oh good grief! Not another Mansell with cerebral deficiency syndrome!
rkdean
Jerry Gundrum (topg...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: SNIP
Does any other team producing both chassis and engine do better??
F. Marquez
man...@ihug.co.nz (Scott Mansell) wrote:
>Alex Wilde <awi...@cizeta.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>David Jones (Dav...@forave.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>>: Why the big suprise about Ferrari?
>>: I mean look at Italy itself. Olivetti computers, Alfa Romeo/Fiat/Lancia cars
>> ~~~~~~
>>: It's not just Ferrari, its the whole country that is crap
>>: --
>>You're treading on very dangerous ground there, my friend :^|
>> Team | email: awi...@cizeta.demon.co.uk | _I___r
>> // | A1200 50Mhz'030 1.1G 14Mb | __/ | /|_
>> \X/ | Pro-Flex 752 Full Suspension | /__\_|_//| \
>> AMIGA | Meridian 506 & some other stuff. | \__/ P \__/
>
>Lets face it, the prancing horse sucks
Well, Fiat won lot of design awards because their Coupe, Bravo/Brava
and Spyder. Being the owner of a late Alfa 75 1.8 I.E. I can say it's
one of the most responsive cars in its segment, and very reliable. You
must remember that Alfa has done very well in all the touring
championship that it entered (included BTCC). And Lancia is a mitycal
name in rally championship. Perhaps you mean that Acorn computers is
better than Olivetti? (very funny name that, Acorn). Now please, tell
me what were your opinions when Lotus F1 team (sadly) quit F1 because
of bad results. Uk crap?
I think that Ferrari is not getting the results we wanted, but with
the help of their drivers, the 1997 evolution will be ready to
challenge any other car. You must remember that this season it's the
first for the new V10 engine and no new engine can compete with other
that's been proved during some years, like RS series. As I read in one
magazine, don't shoot that horse yet.
P.S.
I like Ferrari (F1 and production cars) but I'm not a big fan of it.
If Lotus were back, I'd support then.
F. Marquez
Facultad Informatica de Malaga
Malaga
marq...@tecma1.ctima.uma.es
Mark Hunter
In article <4v5klu$6...@newsource.ihug.co.nz>, Scott Mansell
<man...@ihug.co.nz> writes
>ex Wilde <awi...@cizeta.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>David Jones (Dav...@forave.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>>: Why the big suprise about Ferrari?
>>: I mean look at Italy itself. Olivetti computers, Alfa Romeo/Fiat/Lancia cars
>> ~~~~~~
>>: It's not just Ferrari, its the whole country that is crap
>>: --
>
>>You're treading on very dangerous ground there, my friend :^|
>
>
>> Team | email: awi...@cizeta.demon.co.uk | _I___r
>> // | A1200 50Mhz'030 1.1G 14Mb | __/ | /|_
>> \X/ | Pro-Flex 752 Full Suspension | /__\_|_//| \
>> AMIGA | Meridian 506 & some other stuff. | \__/ P \__/
>
>Lets face it, the prancing horse sucks
>
>
>
>
Get a life. Ferrari is the only true race team left.
Mark
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Mark Hunter
Mike Fisher
> Does any other team producing both chassis and engine do better??
Oh yeah, like that makes some competition for Ferrari.
Let's face it - they're a bit underfunded after all. !-)
Cheerz, Mike
kmharris
Dear Mark. I agree with your comments about the lack of success of the
ferrari marque.The financial resources that they have access to should
make obtaining results a certainty,but the opposite is true.
The fee for Schumacher initialy sounded quite outragous.However after
some thought on the matter the opposite may be true.The cost of having
Mr Barnard build a new chassis and Mr Goto a new engine plus all the
other fiscal factors and lead time to develope a new car would be
astronomical.Thus Micheal's money is very small indeed compared to the
cost of a new car.I think that Schumacher in an attempt to gain glory
for Ferrari will push the uncompetative car beyond its limits resulting
in death or serious injury to the driver and possibly others.An example
of this is to be found in the death of Giles Villenuve at the Belgium
G P at Zolder during qualifying.Secretly Ferrari had been building
qualifying chassis's of ultra thin materials resulting in his seat belt
mounting ripping away from the chassis and his body being thrown onto
the track.Privatly F.I.S.A.gave Ferrari a dressing down but publicly
very little was said because Ferrari is one of the Grandee Marques.I
hope these comments give you some food for thought.Personally I hope my
prediction does not come true.
kmharris
Michel Fischer
kmharris wrote:
>
> I think that Schumacher in an attempt to gain glory
> for Ferrari will push the uncompetative car beyond its limits resulting
> in death or serious injury to the driver and possibly others.An example
> of this is to be found in the death of Giles Villenuve at the Belgium
> G P at Zolder during qualifying.Secretly Ferrari had been building
> qualifying chassis's of ultra thin materials resulting in his seat belt
> mounting ripping away from the chassis and his body being thrown onto
> the track.Privatly F.I.S.A.gave Ferrari a dressing down but publicly
This is quite interesting. There is allusion to "a seat belt problem" in Gerald
Donaldson's biography of G.V., no more. This is the first I have ever heard of this
aspect of the accident. Is this something from the rumor-mill or is there some substance
to this explanation?
Walter Tautz
Well looks like Ferrari are not shit. Schuey had good reliability
in Spa to win!
-Walter
Mike Fisher (10166...@compuserve.com) wrote:
: > Does any other team producing both chassis and engine do better??
: Oh yeah, like that makes some competition for Ferrari.
: Let's face it - they're a bit underfunded after all. !-)
: Cheerz, Mike
:
Mark Hunter
In article <4vpnom$g...@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca>, Walter Tautz
<wta...@uoguelph.ca> writes
WE WON!!! WE RACE TO WIN.
Ferrari are the only TRUE race team left.
118 D5
Mark Hunter
J...@boyracer.demon.co.uk
In article <4vpgq8$v...@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net>, kmharris
<kmha...@ozmail.com.au> writes
>The fee for Schumacher initialy sounded quite outragous.However after
> in an attempt to gain glory for Ferrari will push the uncompetative
>car beyond its limits resulting in death or serious injury to the
>driver and possibly others.
>
he is in fact great value. The downside being that Eddie Irvine is being
forced to do less work due to Schumacher's domination of testing
sessions. And I think that Schuey is too good a driver to push the car
to _dangerous_ limits. I say this after having watched his crash at Spa.
"Well, he *looked* like a hoard." - Hodge Podge
J...@Boyracer.Demon.co.UK
Jean Alesi
Obviously you don't nothing about what you are talking about, and i'm
dignifying myself to reply to this outrage because some missinformed
people might believe some stupid thing as this.
My friend, "pushing an uncompetative car beyond its limits resulting in
death or serious injury to the driver and possibly others", F1 CAR'S
DON'T BORN COMPETATIVE THEY BECOME COMPETATIVE, and people like driver's
MAKE IT THAT WAY. The F-310 is not at his best stage yet, the car hasn't
completed a championship. It's a victory for Ferrari the fact that with
this car they have already won races. This car is not like FW-18 that is
a result of a continuos evolution of a design. The F-310 is good because
Schumacher and of course Irvine and Larini lead the engeneer's that way.
It's a team work effort. PUSHING THE CAR BEYOND IS LIMIT, do you usually
watch F-1 ? THE CAR IS OVER THE LIMIT WHEN IT'S IN THE GRASS CRASHED. I
haven't seen Schumacher doing it more than any other driver. EVERYBODY
HAS SPIN'S, LOCKUP'S AND UNEXPECTED SLIDES OF BOTH FRONT OR REAR, that's
what F-1 is all about, it is not only racing the best car, is racing
then better then any other driver's. RESULTING IN IS DEATH, i think
Schumacher doesn't wanna die yet and so he will not do stupid thing's
like Hill does. How walk's in the rain get's wet, and they know they are
in the rain. When they go to the track they take it to the max, it's a
way of living and facing life. Too bad you can't cope with it.
Jean Alesi
If Schumacher test's more than Irvine it's because he know's what he
want's to test, and in case you don't know centering effort's in one
point can make thing's easier. Schumacher is provability of winning is
much greater then Irvine's, although they have the same car.
Seraphs
1995 Ferrari F50 won the most outstanding awards offered by The Robb
Report in June 1995 issue.
1997 Ferrari F550 was praised in September 1996 issue of R&T.
1997 Ferrari F355 was rated almost as high as the Porsche Twin Turbo in
Motor Trend Magazine.
Micheal Schumacher is making high score amongst the competition in F1 and
Indy car races with his Ferrari for the '96 season.
Whom ever is making these rude, opinion-based, tyranical attacks
towards Ferrari, please do your own damn research. Leave the opinions to
those who know what they are talking about.