Senna's last helmet destroyed
Emma
From Motorsport.com
Eight years after the crash that claimed his life, Ayrton Senna's racing
helmet has finally been released by the authorities investigating his
death. A few weeks ago the Williams FW16 Senna drove at Imola in 1994
was also released: the conclusion of the investigation acquitted team
principal Frank Williams, technical director Patrick Head and then-
designer Adrian Newey of manslaughter.
The court hearing released the helmet in favour of Bell Racing Europe
and a representative of Bell completed the formalities
necessary to take possession of it. Representatives of the Senna family
were also present. Although the fate of Senna's car is yet to be decided
-- Williams have issued no statement on the matter -- the helmet was
destroyed according to the wishes of the Senna family and Bell. It was
badly damaged in the crash and the parties involved in reclaiming it
wanted to avoid the unpleasantness of collectors bidding for it as
memorabilia.
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Matt M
no closure on the accident..............
Matt
Mike Wells
"Matt M" <bata...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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I can't see the original post you're repling to. You might want to
elaborate what you specifically mean by "intelligent." What quenches your
particular appetite for the truth of the matter may or may not be the actual
truth.
Mike Wells
Eric Rowland
"Mike Wells" <mcw...@istar.ca> wrote in message
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wrote:
>Anyone got a link to an INTELLIGENT article on what actually happened. Still
>no closure on the accident..............
I'm not sure you could INTELLIGENT articles.
You seem to have a problem understanding the term "accident". Also,
you seem to have issues with the fact that many people knowingly
accept and take risks.
Or is it not you that is still claiming that Williams, Newey and Head
should have been jailed for manslaughter? If not you - then ignore
this post.
>Matt
cheers
David
Bob Dog
> From Motorsport.com
>
> Eight years after the crash that claimed his life, Ayrton Senna's racing
> helmet has finally been released by the authorities investigating his
> death.
> Although the fate of Senna's car is yet to be decided
> -- Williams have issued no statement on the matter -- the helmet was
> destroyed according to the wishes of the Senna family and Bell. It was
> badly damaged in the crash and the parties involved in reclaiming it
> wanted to avoid the unpleasantness of collectors bidding for it as
> memorabilia.
That's good to hear. People who would bid for the helmet
would have bid for OJ Simpson's bronco.
Bob Dog
Emma
>Emma <Em...@excalvehs.demon.co.uk> wrote
>> Although the fate of Senna's car is yet to be decided
>> -- Williams have issued no statement on the matter -- the helmet was
>> destroyed according to the wishes of the Senna family and Bell. It was
>> badly damaged in the crash and the parties involved in reclaiming it
>> wanted to avoid the unpleasantness of collectors bidding for it as
>> memorabilia.
>
>That's good to hear. People who would bid for the helmet
>would have bid for OJ Simpson's bronco.
According to today's Autosport Williams have also destroyed what was
left of the car after it was given back to them.
Seems the best thing to do all round really.
Davey D
"Emma" <Em...@excalvehs.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> Eight years after the crash that claimed his life, Ayrton Senna's racing
About time. What gave them the right to hold it for so long anyways!
As if his helmet would provide the answer to the crash!
Did the same happen to RR as well? I doubt it.
Thanks Emma, bar of dark milky choco stuff to you for the update :-)
Cheers
Davey
Emma
>Thanks Emma, bar of dark milky choco stuff to you for the update :-)
My pleasure, I try my best to keep you lot fed with interesting info...
;-)
Davey D
"Emma" <Em...@excalvehs.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> My pleasure, I try my best to keep you lot fed with interesting info...
> ;-)
Well yeah but there are a few on here who would say I don't deserve
interesting info and in some ways they are right.
But I respect the choc lady :)
Cheers
DD
Kulvinder Singh Matharu
wrote:
[snip]
>But I respect the choc lady :)
Respect! Damn right!
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Matt M
completely open on this matter, mainly because the mainstream media (in
Australia) did such a shit job covering it I thought it would be rash to
draw any conclusions from their coverage.
Essentially I just want to read as many < reasonable > articles about this
as I can, not conspiracy theories or anything emotive or otherwise
frivolous.
Matt
Matt M
> >> destroyed according to the wishes of the Senna family and Bell. It was
> >> badly damaged in the crash and the parties involved in reclaiming it
> >> wanted to avoid the unpleasantness of collectors bidding for it as
> >> memorabilia.
> >
> >That's good to hear. People who would bid for the helmet
> >would have bid for OJ Simpson's bronco.
>
> According to today's Autosport Williams have also destroyed what was
> left of the car after it was given back to them.
>
> Seems the best thing to do all round really.
>
> --
> Emma http://altgallery.shows.it
> The Chocolate Monster http://chocmonster.rules.it
>
>
>
empathy if these items had ended up in a museum or collection somewhere.
Matt
Emma
>"Davey D" <diva...@genie.co.uk>wrote:
>
>[snip]
>>But I respect the choc lady :)
>Respect! Damn right!
I've got you boys well trained... ;-)
Davey D
"Emma" <Em...@excalvehs.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> I've got you boys well trained... ;-)
Looks like it :)
Have you ever tried to make a choc F1 car Emma?
Cheers
DD
Emma
>Have you ever tried to make a choc F1 car Emma?
Prost did one once and look where they ended up...
Richard
"Davey D" <diva...@genie.co.uk> wrote in message
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Authorities will often hold on to things ,like the car & helmet, until the
coroners enquiries (or similar authority) has finished and also until the
chance of any litigation by any parties involved has passed. It avoids
exhibits getting lost or accidentily destroyed.
Davey D
"Emma" <Em...@excalvehs.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> Prost did one once and look where they ended up...
Ooooh on the ball Emma LOL
Have another slice :)
Cheers
DD
Emma
I don't mind if I do... <G>
Just in case others don't know the story. From The Sunday Times:-
CHOCOLATE DISASTER A full-sized chocolate replica of a Grand Prix racing
car was smashed into hundreds of pieces just hours before it was due to
be displayed as the star attraction at a London exhibition. Disaster
struck as the 600kg chocolate sculpture, which took 400 hours to craft,
was transported from France to England in a lorry. When the doors were
opened on arrival the organisers of the International Festival of
Chocolate were left staring at piles of bite-sized chunks of chocolate.
Vibration or a sudden swerve by the lorry were thought to be to blame.
Festival organiser Rene Dee said: "It's a disaster. The car is the
central piece of the festival. It's an exact copy of Alain Prost's
Formula 1 car."
Davey D
"Emma" <Em...@excalvehs.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> Just in case others don't know the story. From The Sunday Times:-
A mate told me about this, but didn't know it was a full scale model.
They should have put it in a refrigerated truck LOL
Cheers
DD
Pete Fenelon
> Just in case others don't know the story. From The Sunday Times:-
>
> CHOCOLATE DISASTER A full-sized chocolate replica of a Grand Prix racing
> central piece of the festival. It's an exact copy of Alain Prost's
> Formula 1 car."
>
Well I've heard of things being as much use as a chocolate teapot, but
in the case of the Prost the chocolate F1 car was probably as much use
as the real one! :)
pete
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pe...@fenelon.com "Irk the purists, irk the purists, it's a right good laugh."
Peter
Quite the opposite - it should have been a little warmer so the
chocolate gets soft but doesn't melt. Then the truck-swerves might have
caused some deformation, but hey, even real race cars have bits that
deform under high stress :)
-peter
Phil Newnham
*Everything* deforms under high stress... (or breaks)
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Emma
>*Everything* deforms under high stress... (or breaks)
Are you trying to tell us about some kind of personal problem here
Phil...? ;-)
Phil Newnham
> Phil Newnham <pnew...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> *Everything* deforms under high stress... (or breaks)
>
> Are you trying to tell us about some kind of personal problem here
> Phil...? ;-)
:p
Kulvinder Singh Matharu
wrote:
>Kulvinder Singh Matharu <real-addr...@lineone.net> wrote:
>>"Davey D" <diva...@genie.co.uk>wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>>But I respect the choc lady :)
>>Respect! Damn right!
>
>I've got you boys well trained... ;-)
Oh yes... ;-)
Davey D
"Peter" <dur...@gmx.net> wrote in message
> Quite the opposite - it should have been a little warmer so the
> chocolate gets soft but doesn't melt. Then the truck-swerves might have
> caused some deformation, but hey, even real race cars have bits that
> deform under high stress :)
If you keep choc very cold, it won't break.
Ever nearly broke your teeth on frozen choc? I know I have
during hot summers. If you dont believe me go and and stick a bar of
Cadbury's best in your freezer for a few hours and then try biting it!
If they did use a fridge unit, then they couldn't have secured the car
correctly.
How sad for the makers though!
Cheers
DD
Kim Andrews
wrote:
>
>If they did use a fridge unit, then they couldn't have secured the car
>correctly.
>How sad for the makers though!
Um... the treatment for normal chocolate is all a bit irrelevant
anyway, I'm afraid. This was not edible chocolate. It was barely
chocolate at all, the amount of chemicals and compounds that was in it
to a) make it suitable for sculpting and modelling and b) preserve it
on display. Remember, this was going to be (and had already been
elsewhere) displayed in an exhibition hall. No temperature control.
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Davey D
"Kim Andrews" <k...@foca.co.uk> wrote in message
> Um... the treatment for normal chocolate is all a bit irrelevant
> anyway, I'm afraid. This was not edible chocolate. It was barely
> chocolate at all, the amount of chemicals and compounds that was in it
> to a) make it suitable for sculpting and modelling and b) preserve it
> on display. Remember, this was going to be (and had already been
> elsewhere) displayed in an exhibition hall. No temperature control.
Yes I have seen loads of these at KaDeWe (German's version of Horrids)
The choc sculptures there look more like clay.
Cheers
DD