So what is everyone's reaction to the Verstappen penalty.

[Alan]

Verstappen's nose was ahead of Hamilton's before they turned in for
corner 2 and he positioned his car as far to the right as he could.

Hamilton had lots of room and time to leave Verstappen one car's width
of racing room.

I think the penalty was completely the opposite of what should have been
given.

So did Martin Brundle...

...and so do most of the open wheel racing drivers on ApexSpeed.

[a425couple]

As with your first sentence, Verstappen had established his
presence, and continued it, and at time of contact Verstappen's
left front tire was just behind Hamilton's right front tire.
This was certainly not a 'last second dive bomb'.

Yes, for all us racing in US and Canadian rules, he had
earned the right to a car's width of racing room.

But, obviously, FIA and F1 have established their own set
of standards and rules.

[Alan]

I wish I could believe there was actually one set of standards and rules
that was being applied.

[texas gate]

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 2:21:00 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

fuck you
you trolling rotten pighole cocksucking piece of shit asshole loser

[texas gate]

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:37:34 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> I wish

fuck you and your wishes
you fucking trolling idiot
fuck off back to rec.sport.golf
and make a fool of yourself there

[geoff]

Yes, they certainly shifted their usual bias this time.

geoff

[Alan]

You imagine they have a bias for a particular driver...

...but I'm sorry, that's just not it.

If there's a bias, it's about preserving the stories.

The story of this weekend I suspect was supposed to be the comeback of
Mercedes to the top step with Hamilton and Russell qualifying second and
first.

[texas gate]

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 6:57:31 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> ...but I'm sorry,

sorry is for pussys
you fucking pussy

[Sir Tim]

Your post is more or less a troll, the stewards have made their decision
and that’s that.

Much more interesting to discuss the possibility that Perez crashed
deliberately at Monaco or the reasons for Max’s seemingly inexplicable
behaviour towards his team mate. Both could have future implications.

--
Sir Tim

[Bigbird]

I would also be taking a closer look at George's unusual "attempted
recovery" and in general the context of gaining an advantage from
causing red or yellow flags during qualifying.

[News]

Updating Schumacher's 'e pahkah da kah' at Monaco 2006:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgCY548M2QQ

[Alan]

On 2022-11-16 02:05, Sir Tim wrote:
> Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
>> Verstappen's nose was ahead of Hamilton's before they turned in for
>> corner 2 and he positioned his car as far to the right as he could.
>>
>> Hamilton had lots of room and time to leave Verstappen one car's width
>> of racing room.
>>
>> I think the penalty was completely the opposite of what should have been
>> given.
>>
>> So did Martin Brundle...
>>
>> ...and so do most of the open wheel racing drivers on ApexSpeed.
>>
>>
>
> Your post is more or less a troll, the stewards have made their decision
> and that’s that.

Suddenly discussing penalties is "trolling"?

Where are all the people who insisted Verstappen was in the wrong when
he and Hamilton came together in Silverstone despite the fact that
Verstappen did leave Hamilton room now that Hamilton didn't leave a
car's width for Verstappen this time?

>
> Much more interesting to discuss the possibility that Perez crashed
> deliberately at Monaco or the reasons for Max’s seemingly inexplicable
> behaviour towards his team mate. Both could have future implications.

Then start your own thread.

[XYXPDQ]

Hamilton is still The Chosen One.

[Sir Tim]

Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2022-11-16 02:05, Sir Tim wrote:
>> Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
>>> Verstappen's nose was ahead of Hamilton's before they turned in for
>>> corner 2 and he positioned his car as far to the right as he could.
>>>
>>> Hamilton had lots of room and time to leave Verstappen one car's width
>>> of racing room.
>>>
>>> I think the penalty was completely the opposite of what should have been
>>> given.
>>>
>>> So did Martin Brundle...
>>>
>>> ...and so do most of the open wheel racing drivers on ApexSpeed.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Your post is more or less a troll, the stewards have made their decision
>> and that’s that.
>
> Suddenly discussing penalties is "trolling"?

Well, it’s certainly an attempt to create another of your endless, boring
did/didn’t threads.


--
Sir Tim

[Alan]

I'm just amused at the two double standards in play here...

:-)

[Sir Tim]

What Brundle actually wrote:

“I have no doubt Max has a different set of limits when in combat with
Lewis, and Lewis has similarly decided to fight fire with fire. And so
inevitably they hit but continued.

“The stewards said Lewis could have given ‘a little more space’, and in my
view Max could have taken even more kerb or indeed lifted off the throttle,
but that’s not racing. The stewards decided it was predominantly Max’s
fault and he got a five-second penalty and a pit-stop for a new nose.

“I thought it was a racing incident. Lewis’ car was a bit scruffy but all
the fast bits were intact, and he set off in spectacular recovery mode.”

--
Sir Tim

[Alan]

It's not what he said at the time.

Go rewatch the reace.

[geoff]

So.... since then he has had a chance to review the incident, rather
than just his immediate gut reaction, and noted that VER surged forward
late, largely off-track to the point of the collision.

Great to see Brundle is able to rationally come to a conclusion.

Or did They get to him ?

geoff

[texas gate]

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 10:41:45 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> Suddenly discussing penalties is "trolling"?

you fucking trolling piece of shit

> Then start your own thread.

fuck off simpleton

[texas gate]

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 3:36:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> I'm just amused at the two double standards in play here...

FOAD asshole

[texas gate]

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 3:50:15 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> Go rewatch the reace.

go fuck yourself

[Alan]

I've just reviewed Verstappen's in-car video on F1TV and every single
word you said there was wrong.

His surge ahead happened as they were both braking for turn ONE. The
turn BEFORE the incident. He established his right to a car's width at
that point.

And Verstappen as never off track until the apex of TURN TWO, where he
did have his right side wheels on the kerbing, leaving as much room as
he possibly could for Hamilton. His right side tires didn't so much as

As they both turn into turn one, Verstappen edges ahead and from that
point until contact his front tire is never further back than the middle
of Hamilton's car, and in fact, when they make contact, Hamilton's front
tire hits Verstappen's front wing.

[texas gate]

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 6:53:14 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> I've just reviewed Verstappen's in-car video

cant say you dont have a life
you fucking dim cock sucker

fuck off back to rec.sport.golf

you useless trolling piece of shit

[geoff]

Your geometry must be different to mine, and that of the stewards. And
Brundle's.

>
> His surge ahead happened as they were both braking for turn ONE. The
> turn BEFORE the incident. He established his right to a car's width at
> that point.

Then dropped back momentarily, and lost that right.

>
> And Verstappen as never off track until the apex of TURN TWO, where he
> did have his right side wheels on the kerbing, leaving as much room as
> he possibly could for Hamilton. His right side tires didn't so much as

That would be 'well over the kerbing'.

>
> As they both turn into turn one, Verstappen edges ahead and from that
> point until contact his front tire is never further back than the middle
> of Hamilton's car, and in fact, when they make contact, Hamilton's front
> tire hits Verstappen's front wing.

Surging forward from significantly behind that point.

geoff
>
>

[texas gate]

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:44:16 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:

> Your geometry must be different to mine

but your sexuality is the same
both queer ass losers

[Martin Harran]

And unable to see that there is no great appetite here for getting
involved in one of your interminable arguments.

>
>:-)

[texas gate]

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:59:28 PM UTC-7, martin...@gmail.com wrote:

> And unable to see that there is no great appetite here for getting
> involved in one of your interminable arguments.

wow
harry martin logged in with fuck all

[Dan the Man]

For me, the words 'racing incident' come to mind. Not every accident has to be punished with a penalty.

Dan

[Alan]

I've got a copy of the in-car camera from Verstappen's car.

Are you willing to look at it and tell me:

Where he "surged forward late"?

Where he was "significantly behind"?

Hmmm?

[geoff]

Sufficiently, yes.

As the stewards clearly haven't seen your footage, I suggest you send it
to them.

geoff

[Alan]

So you don't have the balls to look at it and point out where your
claims apply.

Got it.

[geoff]

Clearly not.

geoff

[Alan]

No... ...I've got it very clear.

[texas gate]

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 8:56:05 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> Hmmm?

you fucking faggot

[texas gate]

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 9:49:44 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:

> Sufficiently, yes.

you fucking faggot

[texas gate]

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 9:50:18 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> So you don't have the balls to look at it and point out where your
> claims apply.
>
> Got it.

you fucking faggot

[texas gate]

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 9:51:45 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:

> Clearly not.

you fucking faggot

[texas gate]

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 11:16:01 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> No... ...I've got it very clear.

you fucking faggot

[texas gate]

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 8:56:05 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> I've got a copy of the in-car camera from Verstappen's car.

ya
and you have hundreds of videos of gay sex
where fucking losers like you get AIDS
so fuck off with your videos
you fucking freak

[RzR]

On 11/16/2022 12:20 AM, Alan wrote:
> Verstappen's nose was ahead of Hamilton's before they turned in for
> corner 2 and he positioned his car as far to the right as he could.
>
> Hamilton had lots of room and time to leave Verstappen one car's width
> of racing room.
>
> I think the penalty was completely the opposite of what should have been
> given.
>
> So did Martin Brundle...
>
> ...and so do most of the open wheel racing drivers on ApexSpeed.
>

LOL, so I can carry as much speed as possible into the corner, ram the
driver that is taking a turn, and then said I was not left the space?
This is not GranTursimo on PSX.

Also, those drivers and you and Brundle are F-ing clowns for thinking
Max had any right to that corner. Even after a contact, Max overshot the
damn corner. Imagine if he did not hit Lewis what would have happened.

[geoff]

The dick isn't complaining about Sainz v. Hamilton, Abu Dhabi 2022 eh.

geoff

[Alan]

On 2022-11-20 23:38, RzR wrote:
> On 11/16/2022 12:20 AM, Alan wrote:
>> Verstappen's nose was ahead of Hamilton's before they turned in for
>> corner 2 and he positioned his car as far to the right as he could.
>>
>> Hamilton had lots of room and time to leave Verstappen one car's width
>> of racing room.
>>
>> I think the penalty was completely the opposite of what should have
>> been given.
>>
>> So did Martin Brundle...
>>
>> ...and so do most of the open wheel racing drivers on ApexSpeed.
>>
>
> LOL, so I can carry as much speed as possible into the corner, ram the
> driver that is taking a turn, and then said I was not left the space?
> This is not GranTursimo on PSX.

It's also nothing like what happened.

>
> Also, those drivers and you and Brundle are F-ing clowns for thinking
> Max had any right to that corner. Even after a contact, Max overshot the
> damn corner. Imagine if he did not hit Lewis what would have happened.

You don't imagine that the contact might have changed his trajectory?

How naive.

[Alan]

I haven't had an opportunity yet, but Sainz was in the wrong because he
was attempting an over take and didn't leave Hamilton racing room.

Happy?

:-)

[geoff]

Whatever made you think I was referring to you ?

But correct, and HAM didn't even come from half-way off the track.

geoff

[Alan]

Intelligence. Perception.

Just remember, dick:

Knowing to whom you are referring is not agreement with your method of
referral

>
> But correct, and HAM didn't even come from half-way off the track.

And Verstappen didn't come from half-way off the track, dick.

Why do you insist on this lie?

[texas gate]

On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 9:49:57 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> How naive.

how fucked in the head you are

[texas gate]

On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 2:11:43 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-11-21 12:50, geoff wrote:

> > Whatever made you think I was referring to you ?
> Intelligence. Perception.

lol

> Just remember, dick:

lol

> Knowing to whom you are referring is not agreement with your method of
> referral

lol

> Why do you insist on this lie?

fuck you
you fucking cunt

[RzR]

On 11/21/2022 7:49 PM, Alan wrote:

>
> You don't imagine that the contact might have changed his trajectory?
>

Nah, Max's trajectory is always the same. Directly towards Lewis.

[Alan]

Grow up.

[texas gate]

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 12:03:44 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> Grow up.

oh the hypocrisy
FOAD asshole

[RzR]

So you have not really been watching last 4 races in 2021, when Max
needed Lewis' DNF. Got it. Next time tell us which races you watched, so
we can provide examples from those.

[Alan]

And how did Max magically create these DNFs: his spies in the Mercedes
garage?

[texas gate]

On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 2:43:28 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> And how did Max magically create these DNFs: his spies in the Mercedes
> garage?

magically is faggot word
and you are a fucking faggot
so magically fuck off back to rec.sport.golf

[texas gate]

On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 2:43:28 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> And how did Max magically create these DNFs: his spies in the Mercedes
> garage?

what happened to pierre gasleys penis?
you fucking numb cunt

[texas gate]

On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 2:43:28 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> And how did Max magically create these DNFs: his spies in the Mercedes
> garage?

do not post pierre gaslys penis dimensions again
you fucking faggot