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Brian Lawrence

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Dec 18, 2007, 8:34:43 AM12/18/07
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World Motor Sport Council - Decision

18.12.2007

Further to the proposal of the FIA President, the World Motor Sport Council has
agreed to cancel the hearing scheduled for February 14, 2008.

For Media Information Purposes - No Regulatory Value


"http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2007/December/181207-02.html"

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CatharticF1

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Dec 18, 2007, 6:38:59 PM12/18/07
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"Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Law...@msn.com> wrote in
news:5sq0jnF...@mid.individual.net:

You can scrub away all you want at those stains Brian, they're not going
away.

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Bigbird

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Dec 18, 2007, 8:33:02 PM12/18/07
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CatharticF1 wrote:

> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Law...@msn.com> wrote in
> news:5sq0jnF...@mid.individual.net:
>
> > World Motor Sport Council - Decision
> >
> > 18.12.2007
> >
> > Further to the proposal of the FIA President, the World Motor
> > Sport Council has agreed to cancel the hearing scheduled for
> > February 14, 2008.
> >
> > For Media Information Purposes - No Regulatory Value
> >
> >
> >
> > "http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2007/Decemb

> > e r/181207-02.html"


>
> You can scrub away all you want at those stains Brian, they're not
> going away.

FFS stop being such a prick. Ferrari cheated, McLaren cheated, Renault
cheated. Whinge, whine, scream and kick your feet, you won't make any
of them any more or less guilty.

If the 2008 McLaren has been cleared then you can be sure it is legal.
We can't be nearly so sure of the Ferrari.

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NBTT

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Dec 18, 2007, 8:47:46 PM12/18/07
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"Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Law...@msn.com> wrote in message
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Or for the retards....

"The Mclaren I.P has now been handed over to Ferrari to copy at will"

(No doubt they'll have their other close competition's I.P too, Renault)

CatharticF1

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Dec 18, 2007, 10:54:09 PM12/18/07
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"NBTT" <nb...@allforgood.com> wrote in
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>
> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Law...@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:5sq0jnF...@mid.individual.net...
>> World Motor Sport Council - Decision
>>
>> 18.12.2007
>>
>> Further to the proposal of the FIA President, the World Motor Sport
>> Council has
>> agreed to cancel the hearing scheduled for February 14, 2008.
>>
>> For Media Information Purposes - No Regulatory Value
>>
>>
>>
>> "http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2007/December
>> /181207-02.html"
>

> Or *from* the retards....


>
> "The Mclaren I.P has now been handed over to Ferrari to copy at will"

Fixed your typo..

And Ferrari already have a backup of their own IP - but thanks for playing.

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NBTT

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Dec 18, 2007, 11:17:52 PM12/18/07
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"CatharticF1" <efer...@heaven.net> wrote in message
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> "NBTT" <nb...@allforgood.com> wrote in
> news:6L_9j.18760$KC3....@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net:
>
>>
>> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Law...@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:5sq0jnF...@mid.individual.net...
>>> World Motor Sport Council - Decision
>>>
>>> 18.12.2007
>>>
>>> Further to the proposal of the FIA President, the World Motor Sport
>>> Council has
>>> agreed to cancel the hearing scheduled for February 14, 2008.
>>>
>>> For Media Information Purposes - No Regulatory Value
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2007/December
>>> /181207-02.html"
>>
>> Or *FOR* the retards....

>>
>> "The Mclaren I.P has now been handed over to Ferrari to copy at will"
>
> Fixed your typo..
>
> And Ferrari already have a backup of their own IP and two other teams plus
> FIA help - but thanks for playing.

Re-fixed again for those wearing red tinted glasses

> http://allisnotlost.tumblr.com/


Luigi Topolino

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Dec 19, 2007, 12:05:02 PM12/19/07
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As long as Ron Dennis has an office McLaren will never be clean.

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RBrickston

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Dec 20, 2007, 10:22:02 PM12/20/07
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In article <5sq0jnF...@mid.individual.net>,
Brian_W_Law...@msn.com says...

Fact: Ron Dennis came with 200 signatures of employees stating under oath
they never had access to any Ferrari information.

Bob Dubery

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Dec 21, 2007, 2:19:33 AM12/21/07
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On Dec 19, 3:33 am, "Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOV...@Gmail.com>
wrote:
> CatharticF1 wrote:
> > "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMT...@msn.com> wrote in

> >news:5sq0jnF...@mid.individual.net:
>
> > > World Motor Sport Council - Decision
>
> > > 18.12.2007
>
> > > Further to the proposal of the FIA President, the World Motor
> > > Sport Council has agreed to cancel the hearing scheduled for
> > > February 14, 2008.
>
> > > For Media Information Purposes - No Regulatory Value
>
> > > "http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2007/Decemb
> > > e r/181207-02.html"
>
> > You can scrub away all you want at those stains Brian, they're not
> > going away.
>
> FFS stop being such a prick. Ferrari cheated, McLaren cheated, Renault
> cheated. Whinge, whine, scream and kick your feet, you won't make any
> of them any more or less guilty.
>
> If the 2008 McLaren has been cleared then you can be sure it is legal.
> We can't be nearly so sure of the Ferrari.

I don't see how any car can be cleared for more than a split second.
By the time that that apology had been accepted by the FIA McLaren
would have been busy with new developments for that car.

What they've done is to agree to halt a particular line of development
(without admitting guilt).

I don't think we've heard the last of this by the way. There's still
the question as to how Spyker (as they were then) got hold of drawings
of part of the Torro Rosso car, and does anybody think that
Stepneygate and Mackereth are the only two instances ever in which
technical information, as opposed to knowledge in somebody's head, has
moved from one team to another?

In fact we know that it's not. Apart from the Spyker issue mentioned
above there was the use of Ferrari IP in the Toyota a few years ago.

The FIA are right to investigate rigorously when cases of this nature
are laid before them. It's very damaging to the reputation of the
sport. But we err in concluding that it is only McLaren and Renault
who are guilty. They are just the teams that got caught.

Bigbird

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Dec 21, 2007, 11:46:03 AM12/21/07
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Bob Dubery wrote:

IMO it would have been less damaging if they had got off their arses
and carried out a rigorous investigation back in the summer when the
accusatione were being thrown around.

If it were in their nature to investigate more thoroughly as a matter
of course I think many of us would all be happier.

gs

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Dec 21, 2007, 3:31:48 PM12/21/07
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On 19 Dec, 17:05, Luigi Topolino <tif...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:34:43 -0000, "Brian Lawrence"
>
> <Brian_W_LawrenceREMT...@msn.com> wrote:
> > World Motor Sport Council - Decision
>
> > 18.12.2007
>
> > Further to the proposal of the FIA President, the World Motor Sport Council has
> > agreed to cancel the hearing scheduled for February 14, 2008.
>
> > For Media Information Purposes - No Regulatory Value
>
> > "http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2007/December..."

>
> As long as Ron Dennis has an office McLaren will never be clean.

And as long as you have access to a computer this newsgroup won't be
free of dribble.

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