Jonathan Palmer and retired champion rally driver in fatal crash
Dave Budd
Doing some promotional runs, a retired champion rally driver (sorry didn't
catch the name) and Jonathan Palmer had a head-on collision.
Palmer's injured (broken some bones in the shoulder area at least, iirc),
but the rally guy is dead.
Sorry the details I have are sketchy, I just caught the report on BBC radio
while I was actually in another room. I wouldn't have posted but I don't
see anything else about it here.
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Lucy Laws
xzls...@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (Dave Budd) wrote:
>Doing some promotional runs, a retired champion rally driver (sorry didn't
>catch the name) and Jonathan Palmer had a head-on collision.
>Palmer's injured (broken some bones in the shoulder area at least, iirc),
>but the rally guy is dead.
>Sorry the details I have are sketchy, I just caught the report on BBC radio
>while I was actually in another room. I wouldn't have posted but I don't
>see anything else about it here.
>
Quote from the Forumla One News (received today):
"Jonathan Palmer has been involved in a near head on crash while filming at
Estoril. He reportedly suffered a broken arm and collar bone, the driver of
the other vehicle was reported to have died in the accident."
Anyone know who the other driver was?
Lucy
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Mark Raishbrook
Lucy Laws wrote:
> "Jonathan Palmer has been involved in a near head on crash while filming at
> Estoril. He reportedly suffered a broken arm and collar bone, the driver of
> the other vehicle was reported to have died in the accident."
>
> Anyone know who the other driver was?
52-year-old Fallo Slattun Rein, Norwegian ex-rally driver resident in Portugal.
Palmer overtook a car at high speed approaching a tight corner and smashed into
the Norwegian coming in the opposite direction.
They were filming in Sintra, not Estoril, BTW.
Mark Raishbrook
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Rui Pedro Mendes Salgueiro
Lucy Laws (la...@logica.com) wrote:
> xzls...@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (Dave Budd) wrote:
> >Doing some promotional runs, a retired champion rally driver (sorry didn't
> >catch the name) and Jonathan Palmer had a head-on collision.
> >I wouldn't have posted but I don't see anything else about it here.
> Quote from the Forumla One News (received today):
> "Jonathan Palmer has been involved in a near head on crash while filming at
> Estoril. He reportedly suffered a broken arm and collar bone, the driver of
> the other vehicle was reported to have died in the accident."
> Anyone know who the other driver was?
Sometimes I wonder if my posts are getting out. I posted the following
two days ago:
From rps Tue Nov 19 17:09:05 1996
Subject: Jonathan Palmer involved in an accident
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport.f1
Jonathan Palmer had an accident in one Sintra road (remember the
stages used in the Portuguese Rally until 1986 ?), yesterday, Nov. 18.
He crashed head-on with another car driven by a Nowergian, Fallo
Slattun Rein, 52 (someone told me that he was an ex-rally driver.
Can somebody confirm ?).
The other driver died immediately.
Palmer has had several broken bones (right collar bone, radius (which ?)
and the sternum), but he has already left the hospital.
Apparentely Palmer miscalculated an overtaking maneuver. He was driving
a brand new (59 Km only) Honda Prelude 2.2 VTI for a promotional film
(he was followed by a filming crew).
A factor which might have saved Palmer was that his car had the
steering wheel on the right side (the left side was more damaged).
OTOH that might be the cause for the miscalculation in the first place.
I took the info about this from:
http://www.publico.pt/publico/ED961119/LL01.html
but since I am not sure it will be there tomorrow, I will append it to
this post (it is in Portuguese).
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Ex-piloto de Fórmula 1 envolvido em acidente mortal na Azóia
Filmagens fatais
Jonathan Palmer, ex-piloto de Fórmula 1, colidiu, ontem de manhã, com
um automóvel na serra de Sintra, quando conduzia um novo modelo da Honda,
no decurso de filmagens promocionais organizadas para a sucursal britânica
a marca japonesa. O acidente, originado por uma ultrapassagem numa curva
apertada próximo da Azóia, provocou a morte do condutor que circulava em
sentido contrário, um cidadão de nacionalidade norueguesa residente no Estoril.
Passavam poucos minutos do meio-dia, quando a Estrada Nacional 247, entre
a Malveira da Serra (Cascais) e a Azóia (Sintra), foi palco de uma colisão
entre um Honda Prelude 2.2 VTI, matrícula P591MLP, e um Ford Sierra, XT-19-56.
O carro de matrícula inglesa, que seguia no sentido da Azóia, embateu com o
lado esquerdo na viatura portuguesa que circulava em sentido contrário,
ficando atravessado na estrada. O Ford Sierra saiu da faixa de rodagem e
caiu por uma vereda, só parando meia dúzia de metros mais abaixo
contra os arbustos.
Uma ultrapassagem terá estado na origem do embate. "Ele [o condutor do
veículo ultrapassado por Palmer] vinha descansado da vida, quando olhou
pelo retrovisor e viu aquela "bomba". Só teve tempo de se chegar para
a berma. Logo a seguir deu-se o choque", contou ao PÚBLICO uma testemunha
que chegou ao local pouco depois do acidente, com base no relato do
automobilista que a precedia e terá sido ultrapassado por Palmer em cima
da curva apertada situada a poucos metros do sítio da colisão. Esta
versão não foi confirmada pela GNR de Colares, mas poderá explicar a
razão do choque se ter dado na faixa contrária àquela em que seguia Palmer.
O condutor solitário do Ford Sierra, Fallo Slattun Rein, de 52 anos,
norueguês residente no Estoril e com casa em Janas, concelho de Sintra,
foi apanhado do lado do volante, despistou-se e teve morte imediata.
Os Bombeiros Voluntários de Almoçageme deslocaram para o local uma viatura
do INEM e um carro desencarcerador, mas nada puderam fazer pela vítima.
Mais de uma hora depois, o corpo ainda aguardava a ordem do delegado
de Saúde para ser removido do local.
O Honda era conduzido por Jonathan Palmer, 40 anos, piloto inglês que já
correu em Fórmula 1. Nos 84 grandes prémios que disputou, entre 1983 e 1989,
sofreu dez saídas de pista ou acidentes. Ontem, o potente carro da marca
nipónica apresentado no último Salão de Paris ficou com o lado esquerdo
totalmente desfeito. A violência do embate accionou os dois "air bag",
mas o que salvou Palmer de piores consequências foi o volante à direita.
Segundo uma médica do Hospital Distrital de Cascais, o ex-piloto -
"e médico", conforme se apresentou - deu entrada nas urgências às 12h23
pelos seus próprios meios.
Apesar de ter sofrido fractura da clavícula direita, do rádio e do externo,
teve alta pouco depois.
"Ele não se lembra como aconteceu", respondeu Ana Borges, das relações
públicas da Honda Automóvel Portugal, acerca da descrição que Palmer
terá feito do acidente, confirmando que o Honda Prelude, com apenas
59 quilómetros no conta-quilómetros, se encontrava em Portugal acompanhado
de uma equipa inglesa a "fazer filmagens para um filme promocional da Honda
do Reino Unido".
Na altura da colisão, acrescentou, o ex-piloto seguia com um carro da
equipa de filmagens atrás e preparava-se para efectuar "comentários
sobre diversos aspectos técnicos" do novo automóvel.
Ana Borges escusou-se a confirmar a inexistência de comunicação às
autoridades policiais da realização das filmagens - operação que
levaria ao condicionamento do trânsito - por a Honda Portugal apenas
ter cedido alguns "carros de serviço" para a equipa.
GXD
So, is Palmer going to get charged for this ? I mean, it looks like he is
clearly at fault and someone died !
Is there anything about this in the portuguese newspaper ?
Mark Raishbrook <m.rais...@mail.telepac.pt> wrote in article
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Tracy Roketta
> > Anyone know who the other driver was?
>
> Sometimes I wonder if my posts are getting out. I posted the following
> two days ago:
>
> From rps Tue Nov 19 17:09:05 1996
> Subject: Jonathan Palmer involved in an accident
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport.f1
Rui, I remember reading your post. Don't worry - they are getting out -
people probably just aren't paying attention.
Tracy
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Mark Raishbrook
GXD wrote:
>
> So, is Palmer going to get charged for this ? I mean, it looks like he is
> clearly at fault and someone died !
> Is there anything about this in the portuguese newspaper ?
The papers seemed to be suggesting that the fault actually lies with Honda
(Portugal). Apparently they should have informed the police that they would be
filming along the narrow, windy roads around Sintra but didn't, so traffic was
allowed to circulate as usual. Honda (Portugal) have refused to comment on this,
so it looks like they know they're in the wrong. Whether Palmer was aware that the
road he was driving on was "open", I don't know... If he was, then I'd suggest he
*is* to blame: the bloke he overtook just before the crash said he was driving
along minding his own business when Palmer's Honda suddenly bombed into view in his
rearview mirror just as he was approaching a tight bend; he pulled over to the
right to let him through and Palmer hit Rein's Ford Sierra coming in the opposite
direction left-side on.
Portugal ("Tailgate City") has one of the worst road traffic accident records in
Europe, so I guess it's little ironic that two foreign ex-racers were involved in
this one...
Mark Raishbrook
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Dave Budd
>Sometimes I wonder if my posts are getting out. I posted the following
>two days ago:
I've been skimming headers quite quickly here lately, so I may have missed
your original post, but then again I saw responses to your "sometimes I
wonder.." article before I saw the article itself. It's good old net lag.
Gulliver
In article <571dif$i...@romeo.logica.co.uk>,
Lucy Laws <la...@logica.com> wrote:
> xzls...@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (Dave Budd) wrote:
> >Doing some promotional runs, a retired champion rally driver (sorry didn't
> >catch the name) and Jonathan Palmer had a head-on collision.
> >but the rally guy is dead.
> >Sorry the details I have are sketchy, I just caught the report on BBC radio
> >
>
> Quote from the Forumla One News (received today):
>
> "Jonathan Palmer has been involved in a near head on crash while filming at
> Estoril. He reportedly suffered a broken arm and collar bone, the driver of
> the other vehicle was reported to have died in the accident."
>
No mention of the name of the other driver in any of the usual sources of
news. I can only add that it was a road accident and that Jonathan was
test-driving a Honda and that the fatally injured person was driving a
Ford Sierra Cosworth. The collision was head-on.
Palmer will be OK, but he has a broken collar-bone and a broken arm.
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Julie Miles
Gulliver said...
> In article <571dif$i...@romeo.logica.co.uk>,
> Lucy Laws <la...@logica.com> wrote:
> > Quote from the Forumla One News (received today):
> >
> > "Jonathan Palmer has been involved in a near head on crash while filming at
> > Estoril. He reportedly suffered a broken arm and collar bone, the driver of
> > the other vehicle was reported to have died in the accident."
> >
> > Anyone know who the other driver was?
>
> No mention of the name of the other driver in any of the usual sources of
> news. I can only add that it was a road accident and that Jonathan was
> test-driving a Honda and that the fatally injured person was driving a
> Ford Sierra Cosworth. The collision was head-on.
>
> Palmer will be OK, but he has a broken collar-bone and a broken arm.
You might want to add
http://www.nando.net/newsroom/sports/oth/1995/oth/car/feat/car.html
to your usual sources of news - it's updated several times a day as
far as I can tell, and is frequently the first to carry news stories.
They reported on November 19 that the driver who was killed was former
Norwegian rally driver Fallo Rain.
Cheers,
Julie
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Julie Miles (mil...@enr.gov.ab.ca) wrote:
> Norwegian rally driver Fallo Rain.
That was also the information I had: "a Nowergian, Fallo Slattun Rein, 52".
But the Portuguese Autosport wrote: "Ray Farrow".