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Mark J. Frusciante

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Jun 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/3/97
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"John Cowan" <john....@btinternet.com> wrote:
->Tyrrell already got more finance through Barbara, the business woman who
->wants to keep the memory of Roland Ratzenberger alive.

You CAN'T leave _this_ unexplained...


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John Cowan

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Jun 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/3/97
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Tyrrell for sale?

The Italian media reports that Ken Tyrrell is about to sell a majority part
of his team to Craig Pollock and Julian Jakobi, the business managers of
Jacques Villeneuve.

The Tyrrell team is unwilling to comment to this reports. Jakobi and
Pollock have the backing of British American Tobacco and it is also said
Reynard could get involved.

Formula One boss Bernie Ecclestone is reported to be in favor of this
initiative. The Tyrrell team could get more finance this way and improve
their car.

Tyrrell already got more finance through Barbara, the business woman who

wants to keep the memory of Roland Ratzenberger alive.

--
This could prove to be an interesting development.

John Cowan
john....@btinternet.com


Kimmo Pyykko

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Jun 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/3/97
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In article <5n1810$6...@camel7.mindspring.com> op...@pipeline.com.REMOVE writes:
>"John Cowan" <john....@btinternet.com> wrote:
>->Tyrrell already got more finance through Barbara, the business woman who
>->wants to keep the memory of Roland Ratzenberger alive.
>
>You CAN'T leave _this_ unexplained...

Tyrrell's website has a press release that explains a bit:

http://www.tyrrellf1.com/p108.htm

But I'd like to hear the full story, too.


//kimmo
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giraffe, isn't there?"
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Cabin Man

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Jun 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/3/97
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John Cowan wrote:
>
> Tyrrell for sale?

Hey! Keep your darn solicitations outta this NG, bucko. :)

Cabin Man

Irwin Sabath

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Jun 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/4/97
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"John Cowan" <john....@btinternet.com> wrote:


>
>Tyrrell already got more finance through Barbara, the business woman who

>wants to keep the memory of Roland Ratzenberger alive.<

Barbara?

Who?
What?
Why?

Youth demands to know.
--
Irwin

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Doug Antill

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Jun 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/4/97
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In article <01bc6fff$7ff900e0$a03563c3@ee1>, John Cowan
<john....@btinternet.com> writes
<SNIP>

>Tyrrell already got more finance through Barbara, the business woman who
>wants to keep the memory of Roland Ratzenberger alive.

Is this the same Barbara who sponsored Simtek? I think I remember seeing
the name covering the Jos Verstappens rear wing at Monaco.
Regards
Doug

Simon Turner

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Jun 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/4/97
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In article <5n1k0n$2...@nntp.hut.fi>
ki...@alpha.hut.fi "Kimmo Pyykko" writes:

> In article <5n1810$6...@camel7.mindspring.com> op...@pipeline.com.REMOVE writes:
> >"John Cowan" <john....@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >->Tyrrell already got more finance through Barbara, the business woman who
> >->wants to keep the memory of Roland Ratzenberger alive.
> >
> >You CAN'T leave _this_ unexplained...
>
> Tyrrell's website has a press release that explains a bit:
>
> http://www.tyrrellf1.com/p108.htm
>
> But I'd like to hear the full story, too.

I don't know if this is the *full* story, but I'll have a go...

Barbara Behlau is a very wealthy businesswoman who runs a Monaco-based
company (management consultancy, IIRC) called Barbara MC. She was a
friend of Roland Ratzenberger's, and became his personal sponsor in
1994, providing the money for Roland to get his drive with Simtek.
The Simtek cars carried her "Barbara MC" logo at the top of the engine
covers, just behind the roll hoop. The same logo now adorns the
Tyrrell engine covers.

After Roland was killed, Barbara decided to continue with Simtek in
his memory. She became more involved with the team, increasing her
sponsorship and eventually becoming the President of Simtek Grand Prix
(not "chairman" -- I don't know where the Tyrrell press release got
that title from). Her logo became much larger and moved to the
sidepods, with the top of the engine covers being painted in Roland's
helmet colours for the next several races.

She continued sponsoring/presidenting Simtek through 1994 and 1995,
until everything went horribly wrong in June 1995 and the team went
bust. She would know Jos Verstappen from 1995, when he was one of
"her" drivers at Simtek; I would guess that this is probably where the
link to Tyrrell came from (although that's just a guess).

It's good to see her back in F1, although it felt very strange seeing
her logo on a car again after all this time.

Does that help?

Simon
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Jim Nelson

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Jun 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/4/97
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Irwin Sabath wrote:

>
> "John Cowan" <john....@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Tyrrell already got more finance through Barbara, the business woman who
> >wants to keep the memory of Roland Ratzenberger alive.<
>
> Barbara?
>
> Who?
> What?
> Why?
>
> Youth demands to know.
> --
> Irwin
>
> t.i.n.s.t.a.a.f.l.
> (Helping victims of conventional wisdom)

Try the Tyrrell website at www.tyrrellf1.com. They have an article there
on Barbara.

Irwin Sabath

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Jun 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/4/97
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Jim Nelson <jne...@westernasset.com> wrote:

Thanks,
Simon filled me in on a previous post in this thread, but I will have
a looksee.

M Ivon M

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Jun 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/5/97
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>> "John Cowan" <john....@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Tyrrell already got more finance through Barbara, the business woman who
>> >wants to keep the memory of Roland Ratzenberger alive.<

Ummm... Pardin my ignorance, but was Roland in a Tyrell when he died?
Of not, what car was it?

M Sandra M

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In article <5n569j$7...@news.euro.net>,

iv...@euronet.nl wrote:
>
>
> >> "John Cowan" <john....@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Tyrrell already got more finance through Barbara

Behlau

the business woman who
> >> >wants to keep the memory of Roland Ratzenberger alive.<

A good idea IMO. He was a gifted racer.

> Ummm... Pardon my ignorance, but was Roland in a Tyrell when he died?
> If not, what car was it?
>
> M Sandra M

It was a Simtek. That team doesn't exist anymore; if my memory serves me
right - as it almost never does - they were forced to call it quits in
early '95. The owner was Nick Wirth who is now a race engineer with
Benetton.

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Karl Thoroddsen

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M Ivon M <iv...@euronet.nl> wrote in article <5n569j$7...@news.euro.net>...
>
> >> "John Cowan" <john....@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Tyrrell already got more finance through Barbara, the business woman


who
> >> >wants to keep the memory of Roland Ratzenberger alive.<
>

> Ummm... Pardin my ignorance, but was Roland in a Tyrell when he died?
> Of not, what car was it?

Nick Wirth's Simtek.

Regards
Karl


Paul de Koning

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Jun 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/5/97
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On Wed, 4 Jun 1997 08:44:37 +0100, Doug Antill
<do...@winning.demon.co.uk> wrote :

>In article <01bc6fff$7ff900e0$a03563c3@ee1>, John Cowan
><john....@btinternet.com> writes
><SNIP>
>

>>Tyrrell already got more finance through Barbara, the business woman who
>>wants to keep the memory of Roland Ratzenberger alive.

>Is this the same Barbara who sponsored Simtek? I think I remember seeing
>the name covering the Jos Verstappens rear wing at Monaco.
>Regards
>Doug

According to a story in a dutch newspaper (AD) some time ago, Barbara
phoned Jos Verstappen and offered him some sponsoring money for the
Monaco race. Jos referred her to the Tyrell team and I guess that's
how it all started ...

Same story also mentioned that the sponsoring was only for the Monaco
race. Anyone see the Barbara MC logo in Spain?


John D. Owen

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Jun 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/6/97
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John Cowan wrote:
>
> Tyrrell for sale?
>
> The Italian media reports that Ken Tyrrell is about to sell a majority part
> of his team to Craig Pollock and Julian Jakobi, the business managers of
> Jacques Villeneuve.
>
> The Tyrrell team is unwilling to comment to this reports. Jakobi and
> Pollock have the backing of British American Tobacco and it is also said
>

Tyrrell have commented on the speculation (though the rumour I heard had
the buyer as being Prodrive, currently in BTCC with Honda, and World
Rallying with Subaru) that they were up for sale, with complete denial.
According to Bob Tyrrell (son of Ken), commercial director for the team,
the Tyrrell family has no immediate desire to sell out its controlling
interest. "We enjoy what we do too much to even consider it, which means
it is all the more surprising that we don't know where these things are
coming from." The article also said that Tyrrell had already turned down
another potential buyer in recent weeks, possibly the Pollock/Jakobi
group.

JDO

Ace Rimmer

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Jun 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/6/97
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M Ivon M wrote in article <5n569j$7...@news.euro.net>...


>
>>> "John Cowan" <john....@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >Tyrrell already got more finance through Barbara, the business woman
who
>>> >wants to keep the memory of Roland Ratzenberger alive.<
>

>Ummm... Pardin my ignorance, but was Roland in a Tyrell when he died?
>Of not, what car was it?
>

Roland drove a Simtek.

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Grant J. Fleming

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> > Ummm... Pardon my ignorance, but was Roland in a Tyrell when he died?
> > If not, what car was it?
> >
> > M Sandra M
> It was a Simtek. That team doesn't exist anymore; if my memory serves me
> right - as it almost never does - they were forced to call it quits in
> early '95. The owner was Nick Wirth who is now a race engineer with
> Benetton.
> jg

darn shame too....the Simtek showed a lot of promise.

Grant


toms...@globalnet.co.uk

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Jun 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/8/97
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But who is this Barbara? Can find no mention of her at
www.tyrrellf1.com, although admittedly unable to open the "News" page.

Thomas

ProxBullet

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Jun 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/9/97
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Thomas<<

I believe you're wondering about Barbara Behlau (sp.). She was involved
with Simtek in some fashion (owner I think). She has started some kind of
company to keep the memory of the late Roland Ratzenberger alive by
sponsoring Tyrrell.

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Per-Henrik Rasmussen

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Jun 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/11/97
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If Tyrrell is for sale, then how much?

J.

John Cowan

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Per-Henrik Rasmussen <p...@efd.lth.se> wrote in article
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> If Tyrrell is for sale, then how much?
>
> J.
>

£52.34p

Hans Molenaar

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Jun 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/11/97
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John Cowan wrote:

> > If Tyrrell is for sale, then how much?
> >

> £52.34p

"If you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it!"

(Larry Hagman as J.R. in Dynasty)


F1Fan

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In article <01bc766a$b1f0f1e0$642e63c3@default>, "John says...

>
>
>
>Per-Henrik Rasmussen <p...@efd.lth.se> wrote in article
><339E89...@efd.lth.se>...
>> If Tyrrell is for sale, then how much?
>>
>> J.
>>
>£52.34p

I'll Take two please.

F1Fan

Dillon Pyron

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I suppose I get my VAT refunded when I take it out of the country.

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Dude you are confused. Larry Hagman was in "Dallas". A show about rich
brothers who were oil barrons in Texas. Dynasty was a show built around
Joan Collins and some oil barrons in Denver, Colorado.

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Hans Molenaar <hmol...@hbg.nl> wrote in article
<339EE042...@hbg.nl>...

Spider

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ki...@alpha.hut.fi (Kimmo Pyykko) wrote:

>o<In article <5n1810$6...@camel7.mindspring.com> op...@pipeline.com.REMOVE writes:
>o<>"John Cowan" <john....@btinternet.com> wrote:
>o<>->Tyrrell already got more finance through Barbara, the business woman who
>o<>->wants to keep the memory of Roland Ratzenberger alive.
>o<>
>o<>You CAN'T leave _this_ unexplained...
>o<
>o<Tyrrell's website has a press release that explains a bit:

i don't think that she has to worry. roland will always be remembered
as the driver who died at the same race as senna.

just like palletti will always be remembered as the driver who died at
the first canadian gp after gille's death. if that's not enough the
fact that he hit pironi's car doing it will suffice.

//\\00//\\ cal
\\ //
"we have charlatans masquerading as saviours" - Dan Gurney.
(i bet you know who he meant)


Irwin Sabath

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Jun 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/12/97
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Sounds like something J.P. Morgan, an earlier baron might have said.

Dillon Pyron

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Irwin Sabath wrote:
>
> "James Dean Cory D.C." <DrD...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >Dude you are confused. Larry Hagman was in "Dallas". A show about rich
> >brothers who were oil barrons in Texas. Dynasty was a show built around
> >Joan Collins and some oil barrons in Denver, Colorado.
> >
> >--
> >
> >DrD...@MSN.com
> >
> >James Dean Cory D.C.
> >
> >
> >Hans Molenaar <hmol...@hbg.nl> wrote in article
> ><339EE042...@hbg.nl>...
> >> "If you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it!"
> >> (Larry Hagman as J.R. in Dynasty)<
>
> Sounds like something J.P. Morgan, an earlier baron might have said.

It was Rockefeller.

Irwin Sabath

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Jun 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/13/97
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Dillon Pyron <dillon...@amd.com.removethis> wrote:

>Irwin Sabath wrote:
>> >James Dean Cory D.C.
>> >
>> >

>> >Hans Molenaar <hmol...@hbg.nl> wrote in article
>> ><339EE042...@hbg.nl>...
>> >> "If you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it!"
>> >> (Larry Hagman as J.R. in Dynasty)<
>>
>> Sounds like something J.P. Morgan, an earlier baron might have said.
>
>It was Rockefeller.<

Guess you mean John D.
Was it in reference to yachts?

M Ivon M

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jg...@hotmail.com wrote:

>In article <5n569j$7...@news.euro.net>,
> iv...@euronet.nl wrote:


>> Ummm... Pardon my ignorance, but was Roland in a Tyrell when he died?
>> If not, what car was it?

>It was a Simtek. That team doesn't exist anymore; if my memory serves me


>right - as it almost never does - they were forced to call it quits in
>early '95. The owner was Nick Wirth who is now a race engineer with
>Benetton.

Yeah, I remember Simtek. Verstappen was driving for them when they
quit. Had something to do with sponsors that didn't pay, I think.

Quite stupid: The first reaction to my question was an e-mail saying
that it was a Sauber, and I thought 'Oh yeah! How could I forget!'
Duh!

More ignorance: was it a Sauber in which Wendlinger had his accident
in Monaco? (And was that the first race weekend after Ratzenberger and
Senna?)

M Ivon M


M. de Rooij

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Jun 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/16/97
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:>> >Tyrrell already got more finance through Barbara, the business woman who
:>> >wants to keep the memory of Roland Ratzenberger alive.<
:
:Ummm... Pardin my ignorance, but was Roland in a Tyrell when he died?
:Of not, what car was it?

Uh, It's gonna get a bit hard to sponsor Simtek nowadays...
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