What cars do F1 pilots drive daily?
jim rowan
What kind of daily drivers do the top F1 pilots drive? I know Senna liked
to drive a Honda CRX (power to weight), and Hill still loves his bikes
(Ducati?) but what about Schu? Does he drive a prancing horse? What about
Alesi & Berger? I don't think they are Renault drivers. One of them has
got to have a McLaren F1!!
Anybody know what they drive?
JR
John Hartridge
When Mansell drove for Ferrari he was given one. I don't know
about the current bunch. It would be amusing to see someone like
Berger driving a Clio !!
John
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Steven Glenister
John Hartridge <ma...@crosfield.co.uk> wrote:
>jim rowan wrote:
>>
>> What kind of daily drivers do the top F1 pilots drive? I know Senna liked
>> to drive a Honda CRX (power to weight), and Hill still loves his bikes
>> (Ducati?) but what about Schu? Does he drive a prancing horse? What about
>> Alesi & Berger? I don't think they are Renault drivers. One of them has
>> got to have a McLaren F1!!
>> Anybody know what they drive?
>> JR
>
>When Mansell drove for Ferrari he was given one. I don't know
>about the current bunch. It would be amusing to see someone like
>Berger driving a Clio !!
I chased Damon Hill down the M40 in a Laguna. I could of had him
but the back of my car felt a little odd so I stopped to check out
the suspension :-)
pre...@gsc.emr.ca
In <u50165.13...@uic.edu>, u50...@uic.edu (jim rowan) writes:
>What kind of daily drivers do the top F1 pilots drive? I know Senna liked
>to drive a Honda CRX (power to weight), and Hill still loves his bikes
>(Ducati?) but what about Schu? Does he drive a prancing horse? What about
>Alesi & Berger? I don't think they are Renault drivers. One of them has
>got to have a McLaren F1!!
>Anybody know what they drive?
>JR
Hmmm, saw an article a few years back, don't remember the specifics, but 90%
of the drivers were driving Mercedes Benz (at least one of many cars for all of
them!)
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John Hartridge wrote:
>jim rowan wrote:
>
> What kind of daily drivers do the top F1 pilots drive? I know Senna
liked
> to drive a Honda CRX (power to weight), and Hill still loves his bikes
> (Ducati?) but what about Schu? Does he drive a prancing horse? What
about
> Alesi & Berger? I don't think they are Renault drivers. One of them has
> got to have a McLaren F1!!
> Anybody know what they drive?
> JR
<<When Mansell drove for Ferrari he was given one. I don't know
<<about the current bunch. It would be amusing to see someone like
<<Berger driving a Clio !!
<<
<<John
Schumi was given a 456GT for his personal use by Ferrari. He did own an
F355 last year. I don't know if he still has it.
Grimes
Robert Bate
I remember reading that when Eddie Irvine went to Maranelo he chose to
drive an Alfa Romeo, I don't know which one though !
Rob
Robert Bate
Judging by the pictures in autosport, this is my guess to what they drive
last year, Mark Blundell was driving a Mercedes because he was a McLaren
driver. Hill was in a Renault Sefrane and a Espace.
I would of thought that the Sauber boys will have a Ford of some kind and
Renault people a Renault, Mclaren people Mercedes and so on !
I wonder what cars Arrows people drive ?????
Actually what about Forti people ??????
Rob
tor...@ibm.net
I know that Martin Brundle has a Ferrari F355. I read last year about Alesis cars. He
had about 4 I think and 2 of them were Ferraris. Last year Bergers Ferari F512M was
stolen during one of the GP weekends. Don't remeber which. Also, I know Senna was
stopped for speeding once. He was driving a Porsche.
Torgeir
SM Brindle
Robert Bate (eeer...@livjm.ac.uk) wrote:
: I remember reading that when Eddie Irvine went to Maranelo he chose to
: drive an Alfa Romeo, I don't know which one though !
Damoe drives a big family size Renault.
Hakkinen drives a Mercedes (I guess it makes up for the difference in cars
on the track)
Presumably the driver gets to choose a car from the engine suppliers range
though I know Mika Salo has a Williams Renault Clio
I wonder if McLaren makes their F1 road car available to their drivers? - Doublt
it.
Stevie B = )
eliot
first of all i don't think that there's any one car that these guys
would drive daily simply because it is unthinkable that they will only
have one car!
someone else has already mentioned that brundle has a F355. i've also
read that he's got/used to have an NSX. so did senna.
alesi has a F355, a F40 and a F456. he still has the first car he's
ever owned, a Fiat 500. he insists that he still drives it today.
in the past he's had a delta integrale, a golf gti.
both alesi and berger's ferraris were stolen last year.
i'm dying to know what jacques drives.
prost is a mercedes man. schumacher had a 500SEC coupe during the days
before he became a megastar.
frank williams had his crippling accident in an audi 200.
any more?
eliot
Someshan Pillay
As for the cars ... I'm not too sure.
However I did read somewhere that Shumi and Coulthard both live in
Monte Carlo....
Apparently Shumi rides a Harley around the principality whereas
Coulthard scoots around on a moped !
\__ is that humbility(not sure of spelling) or what !
Someshan Pillay
In a snippet of a documentarty I saw Eddie driving a Ferrari(a 348
, I think ).
This was even before he was recruited to th Marinello team.
e...@ict.fhg.de
captg...@aol.com (CaptGrimes) wrote:
>Schumi was given a 456GT for his personal use by Ferrari. He did own an
>F355 last year. I don't know if he still has it.
He still has! He also drives a Bugatti.
Herbert
Still a fan of Johnny! :-)
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Robert Bate <eeer...@livjm.ac.uk> wrote:
>I wonder what cars Arrows people drive ?????
A Die Hart.
Sorry, that was a bad one.;-)
Herbert
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Rui Pedro Mendes Salgueiro
jim rowan (u50...@uic.edu) wrote:
> What kind of daily drivers do the top F1 pilots drive? I know Senna liked
> to drive a Honda CRX (power to weight),
I didn't know about that. I know he used to have a sports Honda
(I don't remember the name now: NSX ?. The one made to compete with
Ferrari, aluminium body, V6(-turbo ?)). This was during the
McLaren-Honda years, of course.
There was a time (mid-80s) in which most F1 drivers had Mercedes
coupe's (500 SEC). This was partly because Mercedes made a very good
price for F1 drivers. I think it was possible to make money reselling
it some time later. Senna was one of them.
> and Hill still loves his bikes (Ducati?)
> but what about Schu? Does he drive a prancing horse?
Schumacher has a collection of modern sport cars, including a Bugatti
(the supersport version, of course). His contract with Ferrari also
includes a 456 GT (the luxury model, with 4 places and front-engined).
Irvine also has a Ferrari, I think bought before he entered the Team.
> What about Alesi & Berger?
They had Ferraris (Testarrossas ?), but (both or only Berger's ?) were
stolen last year at Monza. I don't know if they replaced them.
> I don't think they are Renault drivers.
You would be surprised with the kind of cars they sometimes drive.
F1 drivers in the GPs far enough from home, that they have to go by
plane, use either rented cars or cars provided by the local importer of
the engine manufacturer. This means for Benetton and Williams,
Renaults, and for Ferrari, Fiats.
On Gilles biography there is a nice story about Gilles in a small Fiat
driving in Sao Paulo the day of the Basilian GP in 79.
> One of them has got to have a McLaren F1!!
Probably not. Most F1 drivers making lots of money are investing their
money and not wasting it ($1 Million for a car ! With that money you
can buy several supercars). If someone has one, it would be Schumacher.
BTW, I read some time ago in an article about "Stradales" (Italian word
meaning a race car slightly modified so it can be used in open roads).
Part of it was about the Porsche 917, which was a pure race car built
in 50 units, so it could be homologated as a street car and use much
larger engines that the cars in the sport-prototypes categorie (V-12 5
litres, instead of 3 litres maximum).
This was meant just as a workaround the rules, but some persons did get
immatriculation plates for it (it seemed that they had to regist in
Alabama, because in German it was not possible to convince the
authorities). One of those persons was Von Karajan (I hope I have spelt
the name correctly). This impressed me, since very fast cars and
classical music seem a slightly strange combination.
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Carl Schumaker
I saw an article in "Auto Motor und Sport" (german car magazine) within
the last couple of years were Michael was on a Ducati in Monaco. But i
also read somewhere that he took delivery on an HD (a sporty i think).
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Chris Krepski
eliot wrote:
> i'm dying to know what jacques drives.
I read in Maclean's (a Canadian weekly) that Jacques drives a
Chevy Camaro.
> frank williams had his crippling accident in an audi 200.
I thought it was in a Renault sedan of some sort?
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Gary Beeton - SED Systems Inc.
On Wed, 1 May 1996 pre...@gsc.emr.ca wrote:
> In <u50165.13...@uic.edu>, u50...@uic.edu (jim rowan) writes:
> >What kind of daily drivers do the top F1 pilots drive? I know Senna liked
> >to drive a Honda CRX (power to weight), and Hill still loves his bikes
> >(Ducati?) but what about Schu? Does he drive a prancing horse? What about
> >Alesi & Berger? I don't think they are Renault drivers. One of them has
> >got to have a McLaren F1!!
> >Anybody know what they drive?
> >JR
>
> Hmmm, saw an article a few years back, don't remember the specifics, but 90%
> of the drivers were driving Mercedes Benz (at least one of many cars for all of
> them!)
When I was at the '89 Monaco, GP Ricardo Patrese was driving this great
huge yacht with a helicopter on the back end and a scooter parked beside it!
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Robert Bate
>> frank williams had his crippling accident in an audi 200.
>
>I thought it was in a Renault sedan of some sort?
>
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>e-mail: ckre...@chat.carleton.ca
>WWW: http://chat.carleton.ca/~ckrepski
>
I heard it was a Ford Sierra.
Or am I mistaken ??
does anyone know ?
Neil
>Actually what about Forti people ??????
Trabant I reckon, Possibly a lada
Petr Kuznetsov
Mika Hakkinen drive Mercedes, I think for him will be better
anythink much sports.
Peter
Steven Glenister
Carl Schumaker <ca...@pressco.com> wrote:
>I saw an article in "Auto Motor und Sport" (german car magazine) within
>the last couple of years were Michael was on a Ducati in Monaco. But i
>also read somewhere that he took delivery on an HD (a sporty i think).
Hill has a Ducati 916. I think they should put a race on. I know
where my money would go....
Christian Ehrnrooth
In article <3188E8...@chat.carleton.ca>,
Chris Krepski <ckre...@chat.carleton.ca> wrote:
>eliot wrote:
>> i'm dying to know what jacques drives.
>
>I read in Maclean's (a Canadian weekly) that Jacques drives a
>Chevy Camaro.
>
>
>I thought it was in a Renault sedan of some sort?
>
was driving a Honda so who knows. Jacques drives a Renault Laguna in Europe.
Mika Hakkinen drives a Mercedes C-klass. In Finland he has (or had) a Trans
Am.
X-ian
Finland
Dave Healy
In article <Pine.HPP.3.91.96050...@grover.SEDSystems.ca>, "Gary Beeton - SED Systems Inc." <bee...@grover.SEDSystems.ca> says:
>
>On Wed, 1 May 1996 pre...@gsc.emr.ca wrote:
>
>> In <u50165.13...@uic.edu>, u50...@uic.edu (jim rowan) writes:
>> >What kind of daily drivers do the top F1 pilots drive? I know Senna liked
>> >to drive a Honda CRX (power to weight), and Hill still loves his bikes
Are you sure you don't mean a Honda *NSX*?
>> >(Ducati?) but what about Schu? Does he drive a prancing horse? What about
>> >Alesi & Berger? I don't think they are Renault drivers. One of them has
>> >got to have a McLaren F1!!
>> >Anybody know what they drive?
>> >JR
>>
>> Hmmm, saw an article a few years back, don't remember the specifics, but 90%
>> of the drivers were driving Mercedes Benz (at least one of many cars for all of
>> them!)
>
>When I was at the '89 Monaco, GP Ricardo Patrese was driving this great
>huge yacht with a helicopter on the back end and a scooter parked beside it!
>
Certainly Jeremy Clarkson's MotorWorld showed Mika Hakkinen driving
around Monaco in a Mercedes SL. I also read that Alesi and Berger
were given a brace of Ferrari 456GTs for doing better than
expected; does anyone else recall that they were stolen sometime
last year?
Dave
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Damon Hill drives (or at least did last year) a Renault Laguna and his
wife drives a Renault Clio. (I guess they were both given by Renault)
James
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In article <4mb5pr$l...@soap.news.pipex.net> Robert Bate <eeer...@livjm.ac.uk> writes:
>
>>> frank williams had his crippling accident in an audi 200.
>>
>>I thought it was in a Renault sedan of some sort?
>>
>
>Or am I mistaken ??
>
>does anyone know ?
All I know, the car keeps growing every time this story pops up...
First time I heard this one was when the accident happened and then
the story was that it was a small Renault which didn't offer enough
protecion and therefore Frank's injuries were so massive.
On the other hand, I'm probably wrong :)
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A J Samuels
In article <4mco5o$d...@lmfpub.lmf.ericsson.se>, Christian Ehrnrooth (christian...@lmf.ericsson.se) writes:
>In article <3188E8...@chat.carleton.ca>,
> Chris Krepski <ckre...@chat.carleton.ca> wrote:
>>eliot wrote:
>>> i'm dying to know what jacques drives.
>>
>>I read in Maclean's (a Canadian weekly) that Jacques drives a
>>Chevy Camaro.
>>
>>
>>I thought it was in a Renault sedan of some sort?
>>
It was a Ford Sierra hire car. I doubt whether it was a Cosworth.
>was driving a Honda so who knows. Jacques drives a Renault Laguna in Europe.
>Mika Hakkinen drives a Mercedes C-klass. In Finland he has (or had) a Trans
>Am.
>X-ian
>Finland
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David Cunliffe
u50...@uic.edu (jim rowan) wrote:
>What kind of daily drivers do the top F1 pilots drive? I know Senna liked
>to drive a Honda CRX
Actually, it was an NSX.
When Gil de Ferran (I know he's not in F1 - yet) was in British F3, he
drove his girlfriend's old Fiat Panda. Anyone know what he drives now?
David
Ron Bennett
K. Meijs
Petr Kuznetsov <pete...@glas.apc.org> wrote:
>Mika Hakkinen drive Mercedes
Jos Verstappen drives also a Mercedes (his manager said this on Eurosport TV channel yesterday)
and Michael Schumacher drives a Ferrari.
http://www.via.nl/users/edward/
Mike Sharpe
jim rowan wrote:
>
> What kind of daily drivers do the top F1 pilots drive? I know Senna liked
> Alesi & Berger? I don't think they are Renault drivers. One of them has
> got to have a McLaren F1!!
> Anybody know what they drive?
Well I know that Schumacher has a Bugatti EB110 (awful colours - yellow/blue
interior) and some sort of fairly recent Escort... and I would be pretty sure
that there would have been arranged to have a lovely Ferrari company car as
well, seeing as Ferrari has said that they very much prefer to have their
drivers driving Ferrari road cars, or something to that effect. Irvine already
has a Ferrari (cant remember the exact name, started with a 4 though, and it
wasnt a 456GT).
Berger had a Ferrari F40, and Alesi had some sort of Ferrari (though I dont
know exactly what), both of which I believe were stolen while at the San
Marino GP last year, so what they now have, I have no idea.
But the important thing is, that all the Ferraris are RED, and we all know
that red ones go faster :)
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I saw Schumi drive a Ferrari in a report of some sort, but this one was black,
not red as it should be.
Cam Curwood
I believe all Ferrari drivers are given a Ferrari road car to run around
in during the season. I think that a couple of years ago Berger and
Alesi had both of their cars stolen around the same time.
Cam.
Ville Manner
Tony Cinquino
In oneof my friend's racing magazine I saw a picture of Schumy and
family climbing into the Family Ferrari. You know, the one with four
doors. It was burgandy. Pretty cool car.
Tony
Chris Cox
Mike Sharpe wrote:
>
> jim rowan wrote:
> >
> > What kind of daily drivers do the top F1 pilots drive? I know Senna liked
> > to drive a Honda CRX (power to weight), and Hill still loves his bikes
> > (Ducati?) but what about Schu? Does he drive a prancing horse? What about
> > Alesi & Berger? I don't think they are Renault drivers. One of them has
> > got to have a McLaren F1!!
> > Anybody know what they drive?
>
> Well I know that Schumacher has a Bugatti EB110 (awful colours - yellow/blue
> interior) and some sort of fairly recent Escort... and I would be pretty sure
> that there would have been arranged to have a lovely Ferrari company car as
> well, seeing as Ferrari has said that they very much prefer to have their
> drivers driving Ferrari road cars, or something to that effect.
Doesn't Schuey also have a motorbike? Anyone know which kind? I saw
it on an interview in which he was riding around Monaco and then got
booked for speeding (although that was probably just setup by the
interviewer, then again he is a racing driver). It looked a bit like a
Harley Davidson but I'm not sure.
mieke
jos verstappen drives renault clio williams.
source: official jos verstappen fanclub
a hint for the future?
mieke
Steve Dawkins MEng
Robert Bate wrote:
>
> >> frank williams had his crippling accident in an audi 200.
> I heard it was a Ford Sierra.
>
> Or am I mistaken ??
>
It was a Ford Sierra, according to "Car" magazine.
The road he crashed on is quite a Famous one as it's apparently
one of the most challenging roads to drive in Europe. It;s claimed
quire a few lives, not just Frank's legs.
Steve
JOHNNY B. GOOD
jim rowan (u50...@uic.edu) wrote:
: What kind of daily drivers do the top F1 pilots drive? I know Senna liked
: to drive a Honda CRX (power to weight), and Hill still loves his bikes
: (Ducati?) but what about Schu? Does he drive a prancing horse? What about
: Alesi & Berger? I don't think they are Renault drivers. One of them has
: got to have a McLaren F1!!
: Anybody know what they drive?
Lamy drives a Lotus Elan... And he also drives a Ford Fiesta... It
seems incrdible but it's true, since I saw him inside that horrible car...
It's probably have something to do with him driving a car with a Ford
engine... He also did some commercials with Ford, some time ago... Anyway, if
I ever do such a commercial, I wouldn't ride that car, that's for sure... And
I'm talking about a normal 1.2 Fiesta... Lamy was actually driving a Fiesta
1.2! Well, not driving... He was actually stoped... I can even remember the
all scene. This guy stoped, with his celular phone, and I thought: "Hum, I
know that forehead from somewhere! Yep, it's Lamy's forehead... So if it's
Lamy's forehead, it must be Lamy, the guy that's talking on te phone..." And
he was...
The guy also looked at me... But he didn;t seem to like what he
saw... Maybe he remembers Estoril 1990, where I called him the worst names in
the diccionary, while he was in F Opel...
Johnny B. Good
jim rowan
In article <4mf76d$s...@news.aladdin.co.uk> dcun...@cyberltd.co.uk (David Cunliffe) writes:
>From: dcun...@cyberltd.co.uk (David Cunliffe)
>Subject: Re: What cars do F1 pilots drive daily?
>Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 09:11:01 GMT
>u50...@uic.edu (jim rowan) wrote:
>>What kind of daily drivers do the top F1 pilots drive? I know Senna liked
>>to drive a Honda CRX
>Actually, it was an NSX.
>When Gil de Ferran (I know he's not in F1 - yet) was in British F3, he
>drove his girlfriend's old Fiat Panda. Anyone know what he drives now?
>David
Senna did indeed like the CRX. I have a picture of him sitting in one and
driving one. I think it was during a Silverstone weekend. What model CRX it
was I don't know. I clipped it out of some euro-mag a while back. He commented
on how he liked the handling, tossability and power. Man, I miss Senna!!
JR
Steven Glenister
u50...@uic.edu (jim rowan) wrote:
>>Actually, it was an NSX.
>
>>When Gil de Ferran (I know he's not in F1 - yet) was in British F3, he
>>drove his girlfriend's old Fiat Panda. Anyone know what he drives now?
>
>>David
>
>
>
>Senna did indeed like the CRX. I have a picture of him sitting in one and
>driving one. I think it was during a Silverstone weekend. What model CRX it
>was I don't know. I clipped it out of some euro-mag a while back. He commented
>on how he liked the handling, tossability and power. Man, I miss Senna!!
>JR
I don't about the CRX but Senna actually set up the suspension on the
NSX road car. It was one of the big selling points.
Robert Bate
I wasn't aware that Ford made a 1.2 litre engine !
SCHUMIE over the HILL
<jan...@stud.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote:
>I saw Schumi drive a Ferrari in a report of some sort, but this one was black,
>not red as it should be.
correct, the F355 is black and his 456GT is silver
nol...@elec.canterbury.ac.nz
Alesi has an F40(no F50) , a 348 Spider, a 456GT(i think he drives this
most often), and a fiat(i think its a small old one which was his first
car). the article i read also said that ferrari drivers race between
their homes in the south of france and the ferrari test track and the
record is held by Alesi(probably in an F40), Schumaker or Irvine may
better it in a F50, although i think alesi would be better in a road car
than schumaker.
Senna, i saw a video with him driving an NSX, he also had a Ducati 888 i
think
Irvine i think has an F50, i read a magazine (auto italia) which said
after a test of the F310 he lapped his new F50 around ferrari test track
and had it sideways quite a bit, pleasing the ferrari fans. it also said
that Irvine stayed testing later and actually bettered Schumakers best
lap.
Coulthard i think had a williams clio (for driving around monaco)when at
williams and a renault, the article i read suggested coulthard is not
interested in road cars much and doesn't want a supercar ( he already
drives a car which would make a mclaren f1 look slow)
S P Nolan
Jobst Schmalenbach
Steven Glenister <ste...@tyrell.co.uk> writes:
No he hasn't. The one he rides he hires from a motorcycle place.
Dont know the name but could look it up.
cheers
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Chris Cox
> Coulthard i think had a williams clio (for driving around monaco)when at
> williams and a renault, the article i read suggested coulthard is not
> interested in road cars much and doesn't want a supercar ( he already
> drives a car which would make a mclaren f1 look slow)
>
> S P Nolan
I saw an interview with Coulthard and his girlfriend, Andrea, and he
said that he he hates driving on the road and much prefers her to drive
so he can go to sleep. I can't remember the car they drve but he
described it as small but zippy, particularly when Andrea drives it.
Back in 1994, David used to drive a Renault Laguna courtesy of the
Williams team.
Chris Cox
Bob Kosky
At Road America last year JV was driving a 5.0L Mustang, quite
skillfully steering with his right foot when necessary.
Bob
Petr Kuznetsov
bigvern.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>Actually, whot about Forti people ??????
> Trabant I reckon, Possibly a Lada
I saw Andrea Montermini on BMW M3. He is very proud of it.
Last year Schu drove Ford Escort. And I listen he bought Bugatti EB112.
Peter
<pete...@glas.apc.org>
Richard Shutt
>
> I know that Martin Brundle has a Ferrari F355. I read last year about Alesis cars. He
> had about 4 I think and 2 of them were Ferraris. Last year Bergers Ferari F512M was
> stolen during one of the GP weekends. Don't remeber which. Also, I know Senna was
> stopped for speeding once. He was driving a Porsche.
>
> Torgeir
Senna has been stopped for speeding in Britain and the conversation
between the policeman and him was:
POLICEMAN: Who do you think you are then, Nigel Mansell?
SENNA: No, I'm Aryton Senna.
Richard Shutt
r...@roke.co.uk
Dan Parker
Alesi and Berger both had Ferraris, a 355 and a 512 respectively. As I
recall, they both got stolen the same day last season...
pstewart
Ville Manner wrote:
>
> el...@u.washington.edu (eliot) writes:
>
>
> >frank williams had his crippling accident in an audi 200.
>
>
> Salo has a Porsche 911 Turbo and recently bought a Ferrari (dunno which one). He was caught drunk driving Lancia Integrale in late '80s. Hakkinen has Mercedes
>
I know for a fact that Frank William's accident was when he was driving
a Renault 25 back from Paul Ricard following the French GP, I forget
which year.
David Coulthard was driving a Renault Laguna V6 at one point but I'm
unsure what he uses now.
Eddie Irvine owns a Ferrari 288GTO. He came to the attention of Ferrari
management after stopping Luca di Montezumela (Ferrari President) in the
paddock and asking if he could get spares cheap!!
Eddie Jordan has a Mercedes 500SL, reg no EJ 500
A J Samuels
>I know for a fact that Frank William's accident was when he was driving
>a Renault 25 back from Paul Ricard following the French GP, I forget
>which year.
>
Sorry, he was driving back from Paul Ricard after a test session
before the start of the 1986 season. The car was a Ford Sierra.
AJ
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Julian
Hill got caught speeding on the M40 near Oxford, England (close to the
Williams base) in a Renault Laguna.. i think.. this was before last
season.
I remember seeing him on TV being driven away from court in the same car
by his lawyer. There was a bit of apprehension at the time as he needed
to apply for his super-license and a ban would have delayed that....
Julian.
Julian
Hill got caught speeding on the M40 near Oxford, England (close to th
so ago.
David Cunliffe
Richard Shutt <r...@roke.co.uk> wrote:
>Senna has been stopped for speeding in Britain and the conversation
>between the policeman and him was:
>POLICEMAN: Who do you think you are then, Nigel Mansell?
>SENNA: No, I'm Aryton Senna.
I heard that Jackie Stewart's Ford Scorpio was stopped for speeding
once. As the chauffeur wound down the window, the policeman asked:
"Who do you think you are, Jackie Stewart?"
Came the reply, " No, but that's him in the back...."
David
Dave Healy
In article <3193B7...@roke.co.uk>, Richard Shutt <r...@roke.co.uk> says:
>
>Senna has been stopped for speeding in Britain and the conversation
>between the policeman and him was:
>
>POLICEMAN: Who do you think you are then, Nigel Mansell?
POLICEMAN: Right you, in the van.
Dave
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Rick Horan
I read that Schumacher owns (owned?) a Bugatti EB110
Mark Magennis
> In article <3193B7...@roke.co.uk>, Richard Shutt <r...@roke.co.uk> says:
> >
> >Senna has been stopped for speeding in Britain and the conversation
> >between the policeman and him was:
> >
> >POLICEMAN: Who do you think you are then, Nigel Mansell?
> >SENNA: No, I'm Ayrton Senna.
I've heard this so many times about so many drivers. For example "Who do
you think you are, Stirling Moss?" "No, I'm Nigel Mansell", or even "Who
do you think you are, Nigel Mansell?" "Yes, I am actually" (which was
true). Another one was attributed to Gerhard Berger who apparently told
the police he was Ayrton Senna. I wonder if any of them are true. Anyone
know for sure?
N.B. Being printed in a newspaper, no matter how 'reliable', does not
constitute truth.
Mark
Danilo Silva
Mark Magennis (ma...@dcs.gla.ac.uk) wrote:
: I've heard this so many times about so many drivers. For example "Who do
: you think you are, Stirling Moss?" "No, I'm Nigel Mansell", or even "Who
: do you think you are, Nigel Mansell?" "Yes, I am actually" (which was
: true). Another one was attributed to Gerhard Berger who apparently told
: the police he was Ayrton Senna. I wonder if any of them are true. Anyone
: know for sure?
I bet Berger would do such a thing. He and Senna used to play
practical jokes on each other all the time. Maybe somebody
has a file with a list of those ...?
Dan.
: N.B. Being printed in a newspaper, no matter how 'reliable', does not
: constitute truth.
: Mark
Randy Malbone
Mark Magennis (ma...@dcs.gla.ac.uk) wrote {IN PART}:
: > In article <3193B7...@roke.co.uk>, Richard Shutt <r...@roke.co.uk> says:
: > >
: > >Senna has been stopped for speeding in Britain and the conversation
: > >between the policeman and him was:
: > >
: > >SENNA: No, I'm Ayrton Senna.
: I've heard this so many times about so many drivers. For example "Who do
: you think you are, Stirling Moss?" "No, I'm Nigel Mansell", or even "Who
: do you think you are, Nigel Mansell?" "Yes, I am actually" (which was
: true). Another one was attributed to Gerhard Berger who apparently told
: the police he was Ayrton Senna. I wonder if any of them are true. Anyone
: know for sure?
In one of his books, Fangio tells the story of how he was a
passenger in a car, very late at night, way out in the country. The
car crashed into a truck, and the truck driver came running up yelling
"Watch it! Who do you think you are, Fangio?" to which the car's
driver replied "Of course not; that's him over there...". The truck
driver then fainted.
Again, it sounds too good to be true, but at least this one was
being told by one of the people (supposedly) involved.
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Helen Gerald
In article <4nv78f$2...@news.cs.umb.edu> rma...@cs.umb.edu (Randy Malbone)
writes:
>: I've heard this so many times about so many drivers. For example "Who do
>: you think you are, Stirling Moss?" "No, I'm Nigel Mansell", or even "Who
>: do you think you are, Nigel Mansell?" "Yes, I am actually" (which was
>: true). Another one was attributed to Gerhard Berger who apparently told
>: the police he was Ayrton Senna. I wonder if any of them are true. Anyone
>: know for sure?
The measure of a driver's fame is who the policeman asks you that you think
you are when they stop you. :-)
Well, it's not quite the same thing, but according to his tribute programme on
the BBC, 'Mr Ayrton da Silva' WAS done for speeding in the UK - 102mph,
apparently. What the policeman said at the time is not recorded. There was
also the story of a chap who had let Senna drive his car, and still trembled
at the memory.
Before the last British GP, Radio 1 interviewed all the British drivers (and
Lord Murray). Every single one had a speeding conviction.
yours, on the limit (more or less)
Helen
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Cam Curwood
Mark Magennis wrote:
>
> > Richard Shutt says:
> > >
> > >Senna has been stopped for speeding in Britain and the conversation
> > >between the policeman and him was:
> > >
> > >POLICEMAN: Who do you think you are then, Nigel Mansell?
> > >SENNA: No, I'm Ayrton Senna.
>
> you think you are, Stirling Moss?" "No, I'm Nigel Mansell", or even "Who
> do you think you are, Nigel Mansell?" "Yes, I am actually" (which was
> true). Another one was attributed to Gerhard Berger who apparently told
> the police he was Ayrton Senna. I wonder if any of them are true. Anyone
> know for sure?
>
> constitute truth.
>
In Alain Prost's autobiography, he says he was stopped by a policeman
(or maybe he went to a gas station - sorry, the memory's fading) just
after a race when he and Rene Arnoux had some kind of incident. The
policeman (or gas attendent)said to him something like, "Way to go Rene,
you really showed that arse Prost." Needless to say, Prost was not
pleased.
Cam.
Dave Healy
In article <geraldh.13...@logica.com>, ger...@logica.com (Helen Gerald) says:
>
>Well, it's not quite the same thing, but according to his tribute programme on
>the BBC, 'Mr Ayrton da Silva' WAS done for speeding in the UK - 102mph,
>apparently. What the policeman said at the time is not recorded. There was
>also the story of a chap who had let Senna drive his car, and still trembled
>at the memory.
I think it was one of the engineers at Toleman, wasn't it? Senna was late
for an appointment and had to average something like 80 through a load
of country lanes to get to his destination in time. He was driving some
knackered family saloon and in the words of the driver "drove like he
assumed he wasn't going to have an accident"; when he was interviewed
for one of the tribute programmes the guy still blanched at the memory.
JOHNNY B. GOOD
Mark Magennis (ma...@dcs.gla.ac.uk) wrote:
: > In article <3193B7...@roke.co.uk>, Richard Shutt <r...@roke.co.uk> says:
: > >
: > >Senna has been stopped for speeding in Britain and the conversation
: > >between the policeman and him was:
: > >
: > >POLICEMAN: Who do you think you are then, Nigel Mansell?
: > >SENNA: No, I'm Ayrton Senna.
: I've heard this so many times about so many drivers. For example "Who do
: you think you are, Stirling Moss?" "No, I'm Nigel Mansell", or even "Who
: do you think you are, Nigel Mansell?" "Yes, I am actually" (which was
: true). Another one was attributed to Gerhard Berger who apparently told
That was the only one I actually heard about...
Anyway, maybe it was just a joke of the policeman, seeing he was
about to fine Nigel Mansell, he made a little joke to what Mansell answered
with a funny answer...
Everyone in POortugal knows Lamy, and he is not even 1/10 near
Mansell in popularity... I found it strange that someone would not recognize
Mansell in England... Although, it could happen...
: the police he was Ayrton Senna. I wonder if any of them are true. Anyone
: know for sure?
: N.B. Being printed in a newspaper, no matter how 'reliable', does not
: constitute truth.
: Mark
Johnny B. Good
Glenn Durden
In article <31A37D...@opentext.com>, c...@opentext.com says...
>
>Mark Magennis wrote:
>In Alain Prost's autobiography, he says he was stopped by a policeman
>(or maybe he went to a gas station - sorry, the memory's fading) just
>after a race when he and Rene Arnoux had some kind of incident. The
>policeman (or gas attendent)said to him something like, "Way to go Rene,
>you really showed that arse Prost." Needless to say, Prost was not
>pleased.
Or from Hilton's biography of Prost:
"The attendant congratulated him and said, in effect, 'That shows
that so-and-so Prost.' Prost did not dare proffer his credit
card - it had his name on it, of course, and all would have been
revealed - but paid cash instead and fled."
The incident was that Arnoux had agreed beforehand to let Prost through
if he (Arnoux) was in the lead, in order to help Prost win the world
championship.
He didnt.
donjanus
: I've heard this so many times about so many drivers. For example "Who do
While listining to the Eurosport coverage of the US 500, the Dutch
commentator told us about the friendship between Gugelmin and Senna. He then
said: "one of the best anecdotes I can remember of the two is when they
were driving in England, Senna behind the wheel, speeding. A policeman
stopped the car and asked without looking: "so, who do you think you are?
Nigel Mansell?" Senna answered: "Not really, I am Ayrton Senna". Gugelmin
sat next to it and nearly wetted his pants."
I am not saying that all Eurosport says is true but I don't think he would
mention it if there wasn't some truth in it. But I wowuld give every dime I
had to see that policeman's face :-)
: N.B. Being printed in a newspaper, no matter how 'reliable', does not
: constitute truth.
Just look at the British tabloids to see that :-)
: Mark
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donjanus
: I think it was one of the engineers at Toleman, wasn't it? Senna was late
: for an appointment and had to average something like 80 through a load
: of country lanes to get to his destination in time. He was driving some
: knackered family saloon and in the words of the driver "drove like he
: assumed he wasn't going to have an accident"; when he was interviewed
: for one of the tribute programmes the guy still blanched at the memory.
No. It was Dennis Rushen. Senna's team boss when he drove Formula-Ford
(I think). After Senna drover a race, he wanted to see his friend
Gugelmin drive at Donington. Donington was a two-hours drive and the
race would start in 1 hour. Senna said: "let me drive" and started
to set a record. He managed to get to Donington in 1.15 and Rushen
had to put a book in front of his eyes as he was really scared.
He asked Senna what would happen if a truck would enter a round-
about too, but all Senna did was to shrugh his shoulders and
drive even faster. It wouldn't happen to him. It just simply
wouldn't.
That is what is on that video and what is in the book: Hard Edge
of a Genius.
: Dave
Donovan
Neil J. Smalley
In article <4nsn7s$31...@lamar.ColoState.EDU>, Danilo Silva
<d...@lamar.ColoState.EDU> writes
>Mark Magennis (ma...@dcs.gla.ac.uk) wrote:
>
>
> I bet Berger would do such a thing. He and Senna used to play
> practical jokes on each other all the time. Maybe somebody
> has a file with a list of those ...?
>
> Dan.
>
thier way to a GP.
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Bruno Melli
Neil J. Smalley (ne...@basha.demon.co.uk.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: I heard once that Senna superglued Bergers passport together when on
: thier way to a GP.
I just finished reading a book on Berger (forgot the title but it was
something like the human face of F1 or something close)
Anyway, Berger is one sick puppy. The pranks he pulls are BAAAAAD.
Ex: he is in a rental car, somebody else is driving. Berger pulls the
keys out of the ignition and throws them out the window. The steering
wheel locks up and they get very close to getting in a bad accident.
Throwing people suitcases in swimming pools.
etc. etc. Sometimes people get back at him big time. Once he made the
mistake of leaving the keys in the ignition of his Ferrari. Someone
mad from finding his clothes in the swimming pool proceeded to take the
cart apart and throw the parts (like front seat...) in the pool.
Needless to say they are all personna non grata at the hotel...
By comparison, pranks like glueing the picture of a naked women on
Senna's passport photo are pretty mild.
bruno.
Michael Dobbs
Bruno Melli wrote:
>
> Neil J. Smalley (ne...@basha.demon.co.uk.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> : I heard once that Senna superglued Bergers passport together when on
> : thier way to a GP.
>
> I just finished reading a book on Berger (forgot the title but it was
> something like the human face of F1 or something close)
>
> Anyway, Berger is one sick puppy. The pranks he pulls are BAAAAAD.
>
>
I missed the start of this thread...did it have anything to do with the
sexual assault Berger has been accused of in Australia? Wasn't this
supposed to have started off as a sort of joke pulled on Berger?
Payback for previous pranks nodoubt?
Mike.
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Douglas Fung
Bruno Melli (br...@cnd.hp.com) wrote:
: Neil J. Smalley (ne...@basha.demon.co.uk.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: : I heard once that Senna superglued Bergers passport together when on
: : thier way to a GP.
: I just finished reading a book on Berger (forgot the title but it was
: something like the human face of F1 or something close)
: Anyway, Berger is one sick puppy. The pranks he pulls are BAAAAAD.
Then there was the time he disabled all of Alesi's telephone access.
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Dave Healy
In article <Gkqw+DAk...@basha.demon.co.uk>, "Neil J. Smalley" <ne...@basha.demon.co.uk.demon.co.uk> says:
>I heard once that Senna superglued Bergers passport together when on
>thier way to a GP.
The two that I heard were:
1] Berger and his mechanics smearing every available surface on Senna's
road car [door handles, steering wheel, gear knob and so on] with thick
black grease. Senna gets in without noticing, starts up, and suddenly the
stuff is everywhere....
2] Berger replacing Senna's passport photo with a snapshot of a penis.
Again, Senna didn't notice until someone at the airport pointed it out.
Christian Ehrnrooth
In article <31AB96...@amgen.com>, Michael Dobbs <mdo...@amgen.com> wrote:>> : I heard once that Senna superglued Bergers passport together when on
>> : thier way to a GP.
>>
>> something like the human face of F1 or something close)
>>
>> Anyway, Berger is one sick puppy. The pranks he pulls are BAAAAAD.
>>
>
>sexual assault Berger has been accused of in Australia? Wasn't this
>supposed to have started off as a sort of joke pulled on Berger?
>
>Payback for previous pranks nodoubt?
>
>Mike.
Berger and Senna used to make a lot of practical jokes to each other. Once
Berger threw out Sennas briefcase from a helicopter. Senna paid back by
emptying Berger's suitcase in his bathtub filled with water.
X-ian
Finland
C Shao
Is this real? If so, why would Burger do that?
It certainly doesn't look like doing for fun!
Chris
=> The two that I heard were:
=> 1] Berger and his mechanics smearing every available surface on Senna's
=> road car [door handles, steering wheel, gear knob and so on] with thick
=> black grease. Senna gets in without noticing, starts up, and suddenly the
=> stuff is everywhere....
=> 2] Berger replacing Senna's passport photo with a snapshot of a penis.
=> Again, Senna didn't notice until someone at the airport pointed it out.