HAM's lament

News

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Mar 21, 2023, 3:23:30 PM3/21/23

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It was fine when Mercs were fast, nothing to see here, but not now...

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a43369216/lewis-hamilton-issues-ominous-warning-to-anyone-expecting-f1-to-be-competitive-this-year/

Toto must be spitting bullets in Brixworth and Brackley.

geoff

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Mar 21, 2023, 9:12:46 PM3/21/23

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Sounds all reasonable. The performance gap to all other teams seems
greater than any previously, both this year as last.

geoff

texas gate

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Mar 21, 2023, 10:18:00 PM3/21/23

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On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 7:12:46 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

> Sounds all reasonable.

this from a guy that recently
posted about male masturbation,
and post ejaculation cleanup

Phil Carmody

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Mar 22, 2023, 4:33:47 AM3/22/23

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"Any"? Even 2014? Merc got pole in almost all the races, 1-2s in most of
the races, fastest lap likewise, and were finishing >20s ahead of
everyone else in most races too, sometimes way more than that. This kind
of dominance is far from unprecedented.

Phil
--
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gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast
aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
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a425couple

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Mar 22, 2023, 11:45:23 AM3/22/23

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This citation would indicate that Toto has a realistic acceptance
of the ebbs and flows of dominance.

from:
https://www.racefans.net/2023/03/20/red-bull-as-dominant-as-mercedes-was-at-start-of-hybrid-era-wolff/

Red Bull as dominant as Mercedes was at start of hybrid era – Wolff
2023 Saudi Arabian Grand PrixPosted on
20th March 2023, 8:05 | Written by Keith Collantine

Mercedes team principal Toto Wolff says Red Bull are as dominant as his
team was when the V6 hybrid turbo era began in 2014.

Red Bull have begun the 2023 season with consecutive one-two wins.
Including last season they have now won 12 of the last 13 races.
Mercedes became F1’s dominant force when the current V6 hybrid turbo
power unit regulations were introduced in 2014. Over the first three
years under the rules Mercedes won 51 races out of a possible 59.

Following yesterday’s race Lewis Hamilton likened Red Bull’s advantage
to what he enjoyed in 2014. “I think we’ve had those years where we were
as strong,” Wolff admitted.

Mercedes were almost unbeatable in 2014
However he said Red Bull’s achievement deserves to be appreciated. “It’s
a meritocracy this sport. Even if it’s not great for the show that the
same guys win all the time, it’s because they’ve done a good job and we
haven’t.
“So we all hope for a good entertainment factor, and it’s our duty with
all we have to catch up and fight these guys.”

Red Bull’s strong start to the season has raised concerns they may end
the year undefeated. Wolff said people should talk F1 down.

Race start, Jeddah Corniche Circuit, 2023
Poll: Vote for your 2023 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Driver of the Weekend
“I remember hearing voices like that in 2014, ’15, ’16, ’17, ’18, ’19,
’20. And what makes the sport so special that you need to work hard to
win and you deserve it, as a matter of fact.
“Of course we will try to do everything in our powers to fight back and
we will look at areas of weaknesses that they may have. But
entertainment follows sport, and that’s maybe not good from the
commercial side, but it is what makes Formula 1 so special.”

Mercedes has resolved to overhaul the design of its car in reaction to
its disappointing start to 2023. Wolff said they saw signs in Jeddah
that they are heading in the right direction.

“The direct competitor is very far away in terms of performance and
that’s not something that’s going to be easy to catch,” he admitted.
“But today we’ve seen that directionally with our development it’s
heading into the way that we wanted it to head.

Alan

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Mar 22, 2023, 5:53:22 PM3/22/23

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As someone pointed out in a recent tweet...

(Sorry, but I only saw it in passing)

...Hamilton had a bigger advantage over the rest of the field one year...

...while everyone was anointing him.

geoff

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Mar 22, 2023, 8:26:38 PM3/22/23

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'One year" you say ?

And the other 6 ?

geoff

geoff

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Mar 22, 2023, 8:27:07 PM3/22/23

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Clearly made a big impression in your mind, such as it is ...

geoff

Alan

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Mar 22, 2023, 8:31:37 PM3/22/23

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In most of them, his teammate was clearly faster than pretty much
everyone else in the field as well.

Bigbird

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Mar 23, 2023, 7:36:42 AM3/23/23

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Phil Carmody wrote:

> geoff <ge...@nospamgeoffwood.org> writes:
> > On 22/03/2023 8:23 am, News wrote:
> >> It was fine when Mercs were fast, nothing to see here, but not
> now...
> > >
> >>
>
https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a43369216/lewis-hamilton-issues-ominous-warning-to-anyone-expecting-f1-to-be-competitive-this-year/
> > >
> >> Toto must be spitting bullets in Brixworth and Brackley.
> >
> > Sounds all reasonable. The performance gap to all other teams seems
> > greater than any previously, both this year as last.
>
> "Any"? Even 2014? Merc got pole in almost all the races, 1-2s in most
> of the races, fastest lap likewise, and were finishing >20s ahead of
> everyone else in most races too, sometimes way more than that. This
> kind of dominance is far from unprecedented.
>

You are repeating the article;

"I think the gap they've opened up to the rest is bigger than what
we've probably seen since Mercedes in 2014."

Bigbird

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Mar 23, 2023, 7:36:45 AM3/23/23

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I guess that in the land of fake news you can't even recognise your own
misrepresentations for what they are.

Bigbird

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Mar 23, 2023, 7:37:41 AM3/23/23

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Alan wrote:

> On 2023-03-21 18:12, geoff wrote:
> > On 22/03/2023 8:23 am, News wrote:
> > > It was fine when Mercs were fast, nothing to see here, but not
> > > now...
> > >
> > >
https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a43369216/lewis-hamilton-issues-ominous-warning-to-anyone-expecting-f1-to-be-competitive-this-year/
> > >
> > > Toto must be spitting bullets in Brixworth and Brackley.
> >
> >
> > Sounds all reasonable. The performance gap to all other teams seems
> > greater than any previously, both this year as last.
>
> As someone pointed out in a recent tweet...
>
> (Sorry, but I only saw it in passing)
>

That's what Hamilton said about the Red Bull. :)

texas gate

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Mar 23, 2023, 7:38:17 PM3/23/23

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On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 5:37:41 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> That's what Hamilton said about the Red Bull. :)

you have had alan in you bozo bin 11 times
now he is back out and you are licking his nut sack again
you fucking spineless pussy fart

Martin Harran

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Mar 28, 2023, 4:55:47 AM3/28/23

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Gosh, he really does get under your skin.

Alan

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Mar 28, 2023, 6:00:56 PM3/28/23

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Not in the least.

My point was about the double-standard HERE.

Bigbird

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Mar 29, 2023, 6:16:17 PM3/29/23

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You imagine... but find someone who doesn't think you are one of the
most biased people on the group to whine to.

Alan

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Mar 29, 2023, 6:24:19 PM3/29/23

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People believe what they need to believe.

I think Hamilton is a brilliant F1 driver...

...but I also recognize that a huge part of his success has been the
cars he's been in.

texas gate

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Mar 29, 2023, 8:37:27 PM3/29/23

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On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 4:16:17 PM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> You imagine... but find someone who doesn't think you are one of the
> most biased people on the group to whine to.

put him back in your bozo bin for the 12th time
you wishy washy stupid cunt

texas gate

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Mar 29, 2023, 8:40:55 PM3/29/23

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On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 4:24:19 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> People believe what they need to believe.
>
> I think Hamilton is a brilliant F1 driver...
>
> ...but I also recognize that a huge part of his success has been the
> cars he's been in.

you fucking useless cock sucker
fuck off back to rec.sport.golf
and take numbnuts with you
pair of fucking idiots

Bigbird

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Mar 30, 2023, 6:11:00 AM3/30/23

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Not really sticking your neck out there Captain Obvious. :)

texas gate

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Mar 30, 2023, 8:27:16 AM3/30/23

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On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 4:11:00 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> Not really sticking your neck out there Captain Obvious. :)

Alan

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Mar 30, 2023, 11:26:14 AM3/30/23

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The people sticking out their necks are those who've declared him the
GOAT...

...because they've ignored the effect of the cars he's had.

And now they're suddenly "discovering" it now that Hamilton is telling
them all about it.

:-)

geoff

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Mar 30, 2023, 6:46:32 PM3/30/23

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So your GOAT would have to have been in not the best cars in order to
qualify ?

I wonder how you measure how good/not-good the car is then ...

geoff

texas gate

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Mar 30, 2023, 8:17:06 PM3/30/23

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On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 4:46:32 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

> I wonder how you measure how good/not-good the car is then ...

keep on wondering, you stupid cunt
cant say you dont have a life

Alan

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Mar 30, 2023, 9:38:54 PM3/30/23

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Don't put words in my mouth.

texas gate

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Mar 31, 2023, 8:23:43 AM3/31/23

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On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 7:38:54 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> Don't put words in my mouth.

no room
its full of penis

Martin Harran

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Apr 10, 2023, 1:37:17 PM4/10/23

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What people declared him GOAT?

Alan

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Apr 10, 2023, 2:25:34 PM4/10/23

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You're kidding.

texas gate

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Apr 10, 2023, 7:18:20 PM4/10/23

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On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 12:25:34 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> You're kidding.

You're an idiot.

Bigbird

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Apr 11, 2023, 5:40:26 AM4/11/23

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Martin Harran wrote:

> What people declared him GOAT?
>

Anyone who wants to wind up Alan; try it, it's fun. ;)

Alan

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Apr 11, 2023, 5:51:11 AM4/11/23

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Nope.

It doesn't "wind [me] up" at all.

I just point out the rather large flaws in the logic.

:-)

texas gate

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Apr 11, 2023, 8:33:00 AM4/11/23

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On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 3:40:26 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> Anyone who wants to wind up Alan; try it, it's fun. ;)

until you start crying
and put him in your bozo bin for the 12th time
you stupid cunt

texas gate

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Apr 11, 2023, 8:34:27 AM4/11/23

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On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 3:51:11 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> Nope.
>
> It doesn't "wind [me] up" at all.
>
> I just point out the rather large flaws in the logic.

you fucking idiot

fuck off back to rec.sport.golf
and take numbnuts with you

pair of useless cock suckers

~misfit~

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Apr 12, 2023, 1:28:34 AM4/12/23

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He's too easy though.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville

This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.

texas gate

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Apr 12, 2023, 8:30:32 AM4/12/23

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On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 11:28:34 PM UTC-6, ~misfit~ wrote:

> He's too easy though.

fuck are you useless

texas gate

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Apr 12, 2023, 10:19:59 PM4/12/23

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On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 11:28:34 PM UTC-6, ~misfit~ wrote:

> He's too easy though.

you have been looking for easy
your whole shithole existence
living on government hand outs
stoned out of your tree on government paid meds
pirating all motor sports on tv
you are a fucking loser

texas gate

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Apr 12, 2023, 11:07:49 PM4/12/23

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On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 3:40:26 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> Anyone who wants to wind up Alan; try it, it's fun. ;)

like picking up warm dog shit?

texas gate

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Apr 12, 2023, 11:22:57 PM4/12/23

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On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 3:40:26 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> try it, it's fun.

like gay sex?
fuck you
you fucking cunt

Bigbird

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Apr 13, 2023, 7:27:50 AM4/13/23

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WOW! Just WOW!

You just can't argue with that lack of awareness.

texas gate

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Apr 13, 2023, 8:26:31 AM4/13/23

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On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 5:27:50 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> WOW! Just WOW!

kill yourself

Alan

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Apr 13, 2023, 3:52:54 PM4/13/23

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Yes.

I know it's confusing to you that I might know my own mind better than
you do.

:-)

geoff

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Apr 13, 2023, 5:57:20 PM4/13/23

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I think we all know your own mind (such as it is) considerably better
than you do.

geoff

Alan

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Apr 13, 2023, 6:06:52 PM4/13/23

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On 2023-04-13 14:57, geoff wrote:
> On 14/04/2023 7:52 am, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-04-13 04:27, Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2023-04-11 02:40, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What people declared him GOAT?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone who wants to wind up Alan; try it, it's fun. ;)
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't "wind [me] up" at all.
>>>>
>>>> I just point out the rather large flaws in the logic.
>>>>
>>>
>>> WOW! Just WOW!
>>>
>>> You just can't argue with that lack of awareness.
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> I know it's confusing to you that I might know my own mind better than
>> you do.
>>
>> :-)
>

> I think...

Really?

Because you sure don't let it show!

:-)

Alan

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Apr 13, 2023, 6:07:31 PM4/13/23

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On 2023-04-13 14:57, geoff wrote:

Tell you what:

You tell me what you "think" I think on any subject!

texas gate

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Apr 13, 2023, 7:53:51 PM4/13/23

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On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 1:52:54 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> I know it's confusing to you that I might know my own mind better than
> you do.

you fucking simple piece of shit

texas gate

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Apr 13, 2023, 7:55:56 PM4/13/23

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On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 3:57:20 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

> I think we all know your own mind (such as it is) considerably better
> than you do.

who is we?
you and your gay lover?

texas gate

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Apr 13, 2023, 7:57:43 PM4/13/23

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On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 4:06:52 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> Really?
>
> Because you sure don't let it show!

fuck you
you fucking idiot

texas gate

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Apr 13, 2023, 7:58:46 PM4/13/23

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On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 4:07:31 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> Tell you what:
>
> You tell me what you "think" I think on any subject!

logoff buffoon

texas gate

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Apr 13, 2023, 8:43:26 PM4/13/23

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On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 4:07:31 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> Tell you what:

fuck you
you rotten stinking pig hole cock sucker

~misfit~

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Apr 14, 2023, 12:09:07 AM4/14/23

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That's good.

texas gate

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Apr 14, 2023, 8:24:00 AM4/14/23

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On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 10:09:07 PM UTC-6, ~misfit~ wrote:

> That's good.

fuck off moron

Bigbird

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Apr 14, 2023, 11:49:35 AM4/14/23

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I find it bewildering how you repeatedly manage to be so far off the
mark.

Martin Harran

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Apr 14, 2023, 1:16:32 PM4/14/23

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No, I'm not, but based on your inability to identify anyone specific,
you are apparently just blowing wind.

Alan

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Apr 14, 2023, 3:17:46 PM4/14/23

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Really?

How am I off the mark in what passes for your mind?

:-)

Alan

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Apr 14, 2023, 3:17:58 PM4/14/23

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Sorry, Martin. I was only waiting for you to make it clear you were serious:

'RzR Oct 13, 2020, 5:37:34 AM

On 10/11/2020 4:49 PM, Heron wrote:

> Hamilton again wins and maintains comfortable lead in WDC.

GOAT Lewis... '

'Heron Oct 20, 2020, 4:18:17 AM

Lewis Hamilton’s place in the GOAT debate can’t be argued
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/lewis-hamilton-s-place-in-the-goat-debate-can-t-be-argued-1.4384231

Hamilton’s claims for a place in any GOAT conversation are
already inarguable. '

'Bigbird Dec 15, 2021, 8:16:25 AM

News wrote:

> On 12/15/2021 8:34 AM, Brian Lawrence wrote:
> >
> > <https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59666530>
>
>
> Participation Trophy?

7/8 WDC; GOAT

That's some participation.'

Shall I find you some more?

:-)

texas gate

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Apr 14, 2023, 6:49:54 PM4/14/23

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On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 9:49:35 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> I find it bewildering how you repeatedly manage to be so far off the
> mark.

fuck you
you piece of shit

texas gate

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Apr 14, 2023, 6:50:56 PM4/14/23

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On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:17:46 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> How am I off the mark in what passes for your mind?

you fucking dumb cunt

texas gate

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Apr 14, 2023, 6:51:55 PM4/14/23

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On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 1:17:58 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> Shall I find you some more?

No. FOAD

texas gate

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Apr 14, 2023, 7:23:55 PM4/14/23

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On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 9:49:35 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> I find it bewildering

all things 24/7/365

Bigbird

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Apr 17, 2023, 5:43:47 AM4/17/23

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Please do. You are making my point better than you have ever
intentionally made one for yourself.

:-)

Bigbird

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Apr 17, 2023, 5:49:23 AM4/17/23

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...because my point had fuck all to do with you 'knowing your own
mind'; rather how seriously you take people when they have used the
term GOAT. You have to be pretty brainless to have put so much effort
into such a weak argument about such a trivial and subjective non-issue.

Bigbird

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Apr 17, 2023, 5:51:55 AM4/17/23

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TL:DR or understand?

IOW people say it to get your GOAT, Nancy.

Bigbird

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Apr 17, 2023, 5:56:25 AM4/17/23

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Alan wrote:

> 'Bigbird Dec 15, 2021, 8:16:25 AM
>
> News wrote:
>
> > On 12/15/2021 8:34 AM, Brian Lawrence wrote:
> > >
> >> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59666530>
> >
> >
> > Participation Trophy?
>
> 7/8 WDC; GOAT
>
> That's some participation.'
>
>
> Shall I find you some more?
>

Context? See if you can show any awareness... or prove you can't.

texas gate

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Apr 17, 2023, 5:25:24 PM4/17/23

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On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 3:43:47 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> Please do.

please fuck off

texas gate

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Apr 17, 2023, 5:26:19 PM4/17/23

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On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 3:49:23 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> ...because my point had fuck all to do with you 'knowing your own
> mind'; rather how seriously you take people when they have used the
> term GOAT. You have to be pretty brainless to have put so much effort
> into such a weak argument about such a trivial and subjective non-issue.

idiot

texas gate

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Apr 17, 2023, 5:27:01 PM4/17/23

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On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 3:51:55 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> IOW people say it to get your GOAT, Nancy.

moron

texas gate

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Apr 17, 2023, 5:27:44 PM4/17/23

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On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 3:56:25 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> Context? See if you can show any awareness... or prove you can't.

fuck off useless

texas gate

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Apr 18, 2023, 10:21:47 PM4/18/23

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On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 3:56:25 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

> See if you can show any awareness...

like germany bombing london in ww2?
you dim fuck

texas gate

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Apr 18, 2023, 10:33:48 PM4/18/23

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oh right
the US saved your stupid sorry ass