Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Do F1 Drivers Suffer Hearing Damage?

435 views
Skip to first unread message

Toby Perrott

unread,
Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
to

Does anyone know if F1 drivers or mechanics suffer from hearing
problems/damage caused by the very loud engine noise.

Often you will see drivers trying to protect their ears with their hands.

Jo Martin

unread,
Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
to

Mechanics certainly do, and not just F1 mechanics. In the days when
it wasn't "cool" to wear ear defenders, I didn't, and now I have a
problem with separation of different noises - so I find it difficult
to hear conversation with a lot of background noise - for instance at
parties.

"You'll always find me in the kitchen at parties" for a very good
reason.....

Jo

David Sidwell

unread,
Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
to

On Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:53:57 -0000, "Toby Perrott"
<Toby.P...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>Does anyone know if F1 drivers or mechanics suffer from hearing
>problems/damage caused by the very loud engine noise.

You'll have to speak up a bit as I couldn't quite hear that first bit.

>
>Often you will see drivers trying to protect their ears with their hands.

That is protection in case one of the low-flying Schumacher duo spring
a surprise attack.

David Sidwell (remove .SpamMeNot to reply by email)

"Well, if you had Michael Schumacher up your backside for one-and-a-half hours you would be mentally drained!!"
- Alan Jones commentating on the 1997 San Marino GP.
"while I have never used a pole-axe I have had some experience with farm animals, yes."
- My favourite quote from spider (aka Cal) in an rasf1 1997 post.

Zulfiqar Naushad

unread,
Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
to

If I am not mistaken, then they wear some sort of foam ear plugs...plus
their helmets are also sound insulated.


Toby Perrott wrote in message <6f15ub$kbd$1...@uranium.btinternet.com>...


>Does anyone know if F1 drivers or mechanics suffer from hearing
>problems/damage caused by the very loud engine noise.
>

Bumble Bee Boy II

unread,
Mar 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/22/98
to

In article <6f15ub$kbd$1...@uranium.btinternet.com>, Toby Perrott
<Toby.P...@btinternet.com> said the following...

>Does anyone know if F1 drivers or mechanics suffer from hearing
>problems/damage caused by the very loud engine noise.
>
>Often you will see drivers trying to protect their ears with their hands.
>
>
Noise! Noise! You don't know the meaning of noise!! I've been to louder
gigs!!

The drivers wear earplugs to protect their ears, I didn't think it was
THAT loud when I went to Silverstone.

--
Bumble Bee Boy II "dtmwkodth!" (Stockport, United Kingdom)

http://www.cmcuk.demon.co.uk/wannadie/

"I want to fly like a bum.. bum.. bumble-bee" - The Wannadies

"This machine will not communicate, these
thoughts and the strain I am under" - Radiohead

Bumble Bee Boy II

unread,
Mar 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/22/98
to

In article <mlnCAMAU...@cmcuk.demon.co.uk>, Bumble Bee Boy II
<I.de...@hit-calling.this.a.hit> said the following...

>In article <6f15ub$kbd$1...@uranium.btinternet.com>, Toby Perrott
><Toby.P...@btinternet.com> said the following...
>>Does anyone know if F1 drivers or mechanics suffer from hearing
>>problems/damage caused by the very loud engine noise.
>>
>>Often you will see drivers trying to protect their ears with their hands.
>>
>>
>Noise! Noise! You don't know the meaning of noise!! I've been to louder
>gigs!!
>
>The drivers wear earplugs to protect their ears, I didn't think it was
>THAT loud when I went to Silverstone.
>
But before I look like a *COMPLETE* idiot of course it is VERY loud
inside the cockpit!

DRINK!!

unread,
Mar 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/22/98
to

>Often you will see drivers trying to protect their ears with their hands.


YES!!(shouts) .. IT'S THE NOISE...!

Lindsay Allan

unread,
Mar 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/22/98
to

Toby Perrott wrote in message <6f15ub$kbd$1...@uranium.btinternet.com>...

>Does anyone know if F1 drivers or mechanics suffer from hearing
>problems/damage caused by the very loud engine noise.


Of course the drivers suffer from hearing
difficulties and thinking difficulties too,
this has been displayed 2 years running at
the Autralian GP.

First there was Alesi running out of fuel in
97, and then there was Hakkinen 2 weeks
ago.


Geoff Schuler

unread,
Mar 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/22/98
to

On Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:24:07 +0000, Bumble Bee Boy II wrote:

>But before I look like a *COMPLETE* idiot of course it is VERY loud
>inside the cockpit!

Too late!

Geoff Schuler Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
----------------------------------------------------------
Remove REMOVE. to send me e-mail.
Fight Spam! Join CAUCE
(Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email)
http://www.cauce.org/

Peter Scoular

unread,
Mar 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/22/98
to

>Toby Perrott wrote in message <
>>Does anyone know if F1 drivers or mechanics suffer from hearing
>>problems/damage caused by the very loud engine noise.
>>Often you will see drivers trying to protect their ears with their hands.

Zulfiqar Naushad writes


>If I am not mistaken, then they wear some sort of foam ear plugs...plus
>their helmets are also sound insulated.

I have for sale genuine sets of Goodyear foam earplugs in a plastic case
on a dangly chain from the 1985 (insert race of your choice) Gp and if
required they can be signed by any F1 driver (alive or dead).
cost just 10000 US dollars or the change in your pocket.
regards
--
Peter :-) Hill is the man - Keep the faith.

Come on you Tykes.

BillyBobC

unread,
Mar 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/22/98
to

FYI,
There is a ear canal "ear phone" made that can
be form fitted by a hearing aid doctor/tech which
serves to attenuate the surrounding sound by
about 40-50 (rated) db (frequency dependent) while
offering the ability to hear from the pits (or whatever)
via the in-canal "speakers".

Many "educated" and sophisticated musician use this
to prevent early deafness. If you ever see the drivers
or musicians (while on stage ex - Sarah McLachlan)
with wires coming out of their ears, this is it.

BTW, a fully revving F1 engine from 6 ft is approx. 120 db
loud. It only takes a few seconds/minutes to induce
PERMANENT hearing loss.

Also, the canal "phones" I refer to are also high quality
music "headphones" and they come with ear sealers (both
plastic and foam) that afford 35 db of ambient noise
isolation! They are considered "as good as it gets" and
use a standard eq curve to achieve a less "in the head"
sound.

Toby Perrott wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if F1 drivers or mechanics suffer from hearing
> problems/damage caused by the very loud engine noise.
>
> Often you will see drivers trying to protect their ears with their hands.

--
x-no-archive: yes

Regards,

Billy Bob C

Jon Van Ginneken

unread,
Mar 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/22/98
to

In article <mlnCAMAU...@cmcuk.demon.co.uk> , Bumble Bee Boy II
<I.de...@hit-calling.this.a.hit> wrote:

>In article <6f15ub$kbd$1...@uranium.btinternet.com>, Toby Perrott
><Toby.P...@btinternet.com> said the following...

>>Does anyone know if F1 drivers or mechanics suffer from hearing
>>problems/damage caused by the very loud engine noise.
>>
>>Often you will see drivers trying to protect their ears with their hands.
>>
>>

>Noise! Noise! You don't know the meaning of noise!! I've been to louder
>gigs!!
>
>The drivers wear earplugs to protect their ears, I didn't think it was
>THAT loud when I went to Silverstone.


Were you standing ext to a running car that was revving?
In an open air area and with some distance the decibels will decrease
massively!

====================
Jon Van Ginneken

Please sign the petition at:
http://www.macracing.simplenet.com/cgi-bin/miva?/HTML/petition.hts

Ian Thomas

unread,
Mar 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/23/98
to

Bumble Bee Boy II wrote:
>
> In article <mlnCAMAU...@cmcuk.demon.co.uk>, Bumble Bee Boy II
> <I.de...@hit-calling.this.a.hit> said the following...

> >In article <6f15ub$kbd$1...@uranium.btinternet.com>, Toby Perrott
> ><Toby.P...@btinternet.com> said the following...
> >>Does anyone know if F1 drivers or mechanics suffer from hearing
> >>problems/damage caused by the very loud engine noise.
> >>
> >>Often you will see drivers trying to protect their ears with their hands.
> >>
> >>
> >Noise! Noise! You don't know the meaning of noise!! I've been to louder
> >gigs!!
> >
> >The drivers wear earplugs to protect their ears, I didn't think it was
> >THAT loud when I went to Silverstone.
> >
> But before I look like a *COMPLETE* idiot of course it is VERY loud
> inside the cockpit!
>

Once on the move I would think that wind noise would be the biggest
factor. Believe me, this can get to painfull levels.

--
The Sock Monster and the Pencil Eater only exist if you believe in them.
So it's too late now, eh?
(From the 1998 Discworld Diary)
<http://freespace.virgin.net/ian.thomas1> (Updated 10th march)
Ian 'Ziggy' Thomas - Working in Stratford, London, England Oh dear,
where's the sun gone?

Pete Fenelon

unread,
Mar 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/23/98
to

Bumble Bee Boy II <I.de...@hit-calling.this.a.hit> wrote:
> The drivers wear earplugs to protect their ears, I didn't think it was
> THAT loud when I went to Silverstone.

Silverstone's basically a big open field. Try Monaco. Loud :)

pete

Bumble Bee Boy II

unread,
Mar 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/23/98
to

In article <6f6dtk$i9q$1...@roch.zetnet.co.uk>, Pete Fenelon
<pe...@fenelon.zetnet.co.uk> said the following...

If I had the money I would try Monaco!

Mark Orr

unread,
Mar 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/23/98
to

First time I went to a race I didn't think it was that loud...as it was
qualifying and cars were passing by one at a time...but when a group of cars
past me...its was painful, one went the plugs, end of story.

Mark


DRINK!!

unread,
Mar 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/23/98
to

Bumble Bee Boy II wrote in message ...


>In article <6f6dtk$i9q$1...@roch.zetnet.co.uk>, Pete Fenelon
><pe...@fenelon.zetnet.co.uk> said the following...
>>Bumble Bee Boy II <I.de...@hit-calling.this.a.hit> wrote:
>>> The drivers wear earplugs to protect their ears, I didn't think it was
>>> THAT loud when I went to Silverstone.
>>
>>Silverstone's basically a big open field. Try Monaco. Loud :)
>>
>>pete
>
>If I had the money I would try Monaco!
>
>--
>Bumble Bee Boy II "dtmwkodth!" (Stockport, United Kingdom)


Man U tried \ Monaco- look what happened to them.

dab

Bumble Bee Boy II

unread,
Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98
to

In article <890696134.22503.8...@news.demon.co.uk>,
DRINK!! <mo...@fluorophosphate.com> said the following...
He, he, he!! :)

--
Bumble Bee Boy II "dtmwkodth!" (Stockport, United Kingdom)

http://www.cmcuk.demon.co.uk/wannadie/

David

unread,
Mar 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/27/98
to Mark Orr

This makes me think of a funny story ...

Back in '96 I had the luck of being invited by one of McLaren's sponsors to
attend as VIP guest at the Monza GP (yes, you can be jealous ....)

On sunday morning we could all visit the pitlane and me and a collegue of mine
could even enter the pit box. We were given earplugs and told to put them in.
With a big smile on my face I said : Hey, I'm a guitarplayer and *nothing* can
be louder than a fully cranked guitar amplifier, so don't worry.

Then the engines were fired up .... us standing only a few feet away.

I almost tore my pants apart trying to grab the earplugs ... ;-)

Jamie Dyer

unread,
Mar 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/28/98
to

On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Ian Thomas wrote:
>
>Once on the move I would think that wind noise would be the biggest
>factor. Believe me, this can get to painfull levels.


No more than 70 on the M11, Ian - those Essex police can be a bugger.
--
JamieD.

Ian Thomas

unread,
Mar 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/30/98
to

Just remember the Police Control Building at the end of the M11. I went
past there at 100 one morning and past Mr Plod just as he was joining
the motorway. Quickly dropped back to 70-75 :-)

--

Ian 'Ziggy' Thomas - Stratford, London, England - Dry & Bright.
RASF1's chief flirt.

0 new messages