McLaren crash and burn
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Try yesterday's Telegraph here :
Ted.
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>But that means I have to open my web browser!
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Monday 22 March 1999
Tycoon dies as £640,000 car crashes
By Nicole Martin, David Millward and Michael Smith
A COMPUTER millionaire, who was facing trial on a drugs charge, and two
other people were killed instantly yesterday when the £640,000 McLaren
F1 sports car in which they were travelling crashed and exploded in
flames.
Christopher Dawes, 39, was chairman of the Micromuse computer company.
The other people in the McLaren - the fastest road car available,
capable of up to 212mph - were a 37-year-old man and a woman of 35. The
crash happened after a heavy downpour.
Flames from the burning wreckage swept across the A120 at Great Dunmow,
Essex, where Mr Dawes - who was due to appear in court later this year -
had a home. A series of explosions prevented would-be rescuers from
reaching the occupants.
One officer said: "It was a scene of absolute carnage when the emergency
services arrived. Everybody here is very badly shaken. The car left the
road and hit a building."
Susan Mulford, 24, arrived at the scene after hearing the crash and
called the emergency services. She said: "We saw this great cloud of
black smoke and then flames right across the road. It was fortunate that
no other cars were following. No one could get anywhere near it; it was
just smoke and flames. Then there were two or three explosions as if the
petrol tank went up."
The burgundy car is believed to be still registered to McLaren, the
company that runs the Formula One racing team. It built 100 of the cars
in which the driver sits in the middle between the two passengers.
The A120 was closed for three hours leading to long queues in traffic
travelling to nearby Stansted Airport. Local residents said the rising
bend on which the car crashed was an accident blackspot. One resident,
Matthew McGinn, said: "Three people were killed in an accident very
close to this one and yet the police appear to do nothing."
Mr Dawes, who was born in Australia, made a fortune estimated at around
£100 million from Micromuse. He had become fascinated by computer games
as an amusement arcade mechanic in Adelaide.
He took a degree in electronics engineering and came to London in 1987.
Two years later he set up Micromuse from the attic of a terrace house in
Fulham with the aid of a small loan from the Greater London Enterprise
Board. It now has its headquarters in California with offices in London,
New York and Sydney.
Last October, Mr Dawes resigned as chief executive and president and
sold the company - which by now was designing computer software for a
series of major telecommunication giants, including BT - cashing in £24
million of shares.
Although he remained as a director and chairman of Micromuse, he began
to diversify, buying a number of hotels on the Channel island of
Alderney, where he was a well-known figure. Mr Dawes, who also had homes
in London, Amsterdam and San Francisco, recently bought the £2 million
Merks Hall at Great Dunmow which, despite having all the hallmarks of a
classic Georgian mansion, was built in 1983. It has an indoor swimming
pool and built-in stereo system and has been described as the ultimate
home for Essex Man made good.
Mr Dawes, who is estranged from his English wife Angela and their two
daughters, was arrested on Boxing Day last year after a raid netted
Alderney's first crack cocaine seizure. He was allegedly found in
possession of a small amount of the drug. His private helicopter and £3
million private jet were impounded and searched for drugs. He was later
released on "open remand" - the equivalent to being held on bail - and
was due to appear in court charged with possession of a Class A drug.
© Copyright of Telegraph Group Limited 1999.
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>
> Jusy saw a news report here in Aus about an Australian
> squilliondollaraire (alleged) drug dealer dying with two other people in
> a rather nasty accident involving a tree and his McLaren F1, somewhere
> in Essex I believe. The car was a totally unrecognisable pile of bits
> and cinders and not a great ad for the vehicle's safety features. It
> looked like the accident was in a residential area though. Anyone
> ambulance chasers got any details?
>
> BTW, how many road-going McLaren's are have been manufactured
He was actually ex-owner of a software company (still a director), and
the bit I was more interested in was the fact the car was still
allegedly registered to McLaren.
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> Here - don't say I never do nice things for people...
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>
> Monday 22 March 1999
> Tycoon dies as £640,000 car crashes
> By Nicole Martin, David Millward and Michael Smith
> © Copyright of Telegraph Group Limited 1999.
Errr.... Emma......didn't you just violate that Copyright?!
Tony Gartshore
we had a recent thread running about its various properties but don't recall
seeing this discussed.
Perhaps CF tubs etc should be banned on safety grounds !
Return to steel chassis ! :-)
Tony.
James Connors
> What a poetic way to go!!!
More foolish than romantic.
This is the way to go:
TALBOT. Thou antic Death, which laugh'st us here to scorn,
Anon, from thy insulting tyranny,
Coupled in bonds of perpetuity,
Two Talbots, winged through the lither sky,
In thy despite shall scape mortality.
O thou whose wounds become hard-favoured Death,
Speak to thy father ere thou yield thy breath!
Brave Death by speaking, whether he will or no;
Imagine him a Frenchman and thy foe.
Poor boy! he smiles, methinks, as who should say,
Had Death been French, then Death had died to-day.
Come, come, and lay him in his father's arms.
My spirit can no longer bear these harms.
Soldiers, adieu! I have what I would have,
Now my old arms are young John Talbot's grave. [Dies]
The First Part of King Henry the Sixth
ACT IV. SCENE 7.
by William Schmacker.
> If I was a bachelor with a car like that...
. . . it would still be chick-magnet when you're old and grey. Or old and
bald. Ask Jeff and Paul.
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j a m e s
Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly.
-- Gilbert Keith Chesterton
peeby
squilliondollaraire (alleged) drug dealer dying with two other people in
a rather nasty accident involving a tree and his McLaren F1, somewhere
in Essex I believe. The car was a totally unrecognisable pile of bits
and cinders and not a great ad for the vehicle's safety features. It
looked like the accident was in a residential area though. Anyone
ambulance chasers got any details?
BTW, how many road-going McLaren's are have been manufactured
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peeby
peeby
> Try yesterday's Telegraph here :
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000407710946862&rtmo=
> lwoSvzut&atmo=99999999&pg=/et/99/3/22/ncrash22.html
But that means I have to open my web browser!
<mumblemustgetafastertoyathomegrumble>
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peeby
peeby
> peeby wrote:
> >
> >But that means I have to open my web browser!
>
> Here - don't say I never do nice things for people...
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> Monday 22 March 1999
> Tycoon dies as £640,000 car crashes
> By Nicole Martin, David Millward and Michael Smith
>
> A COMPUTER millionaire, who was facing trial on a drugs charge, and two
> other people were killed instantly yesterday when the £640,000 McLaren
> F1 sports car in which they were travelling crashed and exploded in
> flames.
[remainder of (alleged) copyright breach snipped!]
Thanks for that Emma. What a tragedy. A short life with many tales to
tell, no doubt. ... The car, that is...
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peeby
Jari Raivio
Emma <Em...@excalvehs.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:47CY2HAo$692...@excalvehs.demon.co.uk...
> peeby wrote:
> >
> >But that means I have to open my web browser!
>
> Here - don't say I never do nice things for people...
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> Monday 22 March 1999
> Tycoon dies as £640,000 car crashes
> By Nicole Martin, David Millward and Michael Smith
>
> A COMPUTER millionaire, who was facing trial on a drugs charge, and two
> other people were killed instantly yesterday when the £640,000 McLaren
> F1 sports car in which they were travelling crashed and exploded in
> flames.
What a poetic way to go!!!
Emma
>Emma wrote:
>> Monday 22 March 1999
>> Tycoon dies as £640,000 car crashes
>> By Nicole Martin, David Millward and Michael Smith
>
>Errr.... Emma......didn't you just violate that Copyright?!
I'm sure the Daily Telegraph have bigger things to worry about than me
posting one of their articles. If they are offended then I apologise.
:-)
frank...@my-dejanews.com
James Connors <JCon...@calcna.ab.ca.nada> wrote:
> Jari Raivio wrote:
>
> > What a poetic way to go!!!
>
>
> This is the way to go:
> by William Schmacker.
>
> > If I was a bachelor with a car like that...
>
> bald. Ask Jeff and Paul.
Yeah but what about Dab? He is bald but not that old and has a pretty nifty
Lotus Elise. Is it a chick magnet in the UK? Not sure if the Elise cornering
G forces are as high as the McLaren. I bet they are close.
> --
> j a m e s
>
> Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly.
> -- Gilbert Keith Chesterton
This guy Dawes sounded like he had some problems possibly manifested by some
of the drugs he MAY have been involved with due to Channel Islands drug
charge. Some people said he displayed paranoia about the potential of people
killing him. He had lots of bodyguards. I am not sure if it was his money or
the software business he was in. Hell, Bill Gates has more money and more
bugs in his software and no one has tried to kill him yet. ;)
Talk about having everything you ever wanted and blowing it all away. The
McLaren is a super car and I would love to drive one but there was supposedly
a heavy downpour and it was a tricky/dangerous curve. You don't take chances
like that. Maybe you can drive fast in the rain if you are Schumacher and
are getting paid about $1.76 million per race. The guy sounded like he had a
death wish.
Frank
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Jari Raivio
James Connors <JCon...@calcna.ab.ca.nada> wrote in message
news:7d9urp$k...@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca...
> Jari Raivio wrote:
>
> > What a poetic way to go!!!
>
> More foolish than romantic.
No the romantic part is...
or as the saying goes, die young and be a beatiful corpse.
> by William Schmacker.
Been to english class, eh? That's some lovely english. Billy Shakespear I
believe.
> > If I was a bachelor with a car like that...
>
> . . . it would still be chick-magnet when you're old and grey. Or old
and
> bald. Ask Jeff and Paul.
>
Yeah, but why, oh why should I need a chick magnet if I don't remember what
to do with them?
peeby
> James Connors <JCon...@calcna.ab.ca.nada> wrote in message
> news:7d9urp$k...@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca...
> > Jari Raivio wrote:
> >
> > > What a poetic way to go!!!
> >
> > More foolish than romantic.
>
> No the romantic part is...
> or as the saying goes, die young and be a beatiful corpse.
Not what happened in this case, however. Instant cremation by the sound
of it.
> > by William Schmacker.
>
> Been to english class, eh? That's some lovely english. Billy Shakespear I
> believe.
I've always preferred Willy the Shake as a nick for The Bard.
> > > If I was a bachelor with a car like that...
> >
> > . . . it would still be chick-magnet when you're old and grey. Or old
> > and bald. Ask Jeff and Paul.
Or old and grey and bald, like me.
> Yeah, but why, oh why should I need a chick magnet if I don't remember what
> to do with them?
What the chicks or the cars?
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peeby
who finds the Cooper S can perform magnetic attraction.
Richard Evans
rem...@usa.net> writes
>He was actually ex-owner of a software company (still a director), and
>the bit I was more interested in was the fact the car was still
>allegedly registered to McLaren.
According to my paper it was still registered to McLaren as he was
awaiting delivery of his car.
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Jari Raivio
peeby <p...@pop.netspace.net.au> wrote in message
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> > > . . . it would still be chick-magnet when you're old and grey. Or
old
> > > and bald. Ask Jeff and Paul.
>
> Or old and grey and bald, like me.
>
> > Yeah, but why, oh why should I need a chick magnet if I don't remember
what
> > to do with them?
>
> What the chicks or the cars?
Well, my grandpa is about 109, he still chases women but he don't remember
why.
peeby
Gawd, what sorta car does *he* drive?
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peeby
...the older I get the better I was.
niko Solitander
wrote:
>Christopher Dawes, 39, was chairman of the Micromuse computer company.
>The other people in the McLaren - the fastest road car available,
>capable of up to 212mph - were a 37-year-old man and a woman of 35.
Three people in the Mclaren GTR? Either they were dwarfs or acrobats.
niko
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David Sidwell
wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:14:48 +0000, Emma <Em...@excalvehs.demon.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Christopher Dawes, 39, was chairman of the Micromuse computer company.
>>The other people in the McLaren - the fastest road car available,
>>capable of up to 212mph - were a 37-year-old man and a woman of 35.
>
>Three people in the Mclaren GTR? Either they were dwarfs or acrobats.
Mclaren F1 - 3 seater...
>niko
David
niko Solitander
(David Sidwell) wrote:
>>Three people in the Mclaren GTR? Either they were dwarfs or acrobats.
>
>Mclaren F1 - 3 seater...
>
Three people in the Mclaren F1 GTR? Either one of them was a dwarf or
a very nimble acrobat.
David Sidwell
wrote:
>On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:28:35 GMT, Jame...@SpamMeNot.rocketmail.com
>(David Sidwell) wrote:
>
>>>Three people in the Mclaren GTR? Either they were dwarfs or acrobats.
>>
>>Mclaren F1 - 3 seater...
>>
>
>Three people in the Mclaren F1 GTR? Either one of them was a dwarf or
>a very nimble acrobat.
Which one - the passenger on the left or right of the driver???
Do you not know it is a three seater???
>niko
David
Tom Hiett
>
> >On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:28:35 GMT, Jame...@SpamMeNot.rocketmail.com
> >(David Sidwell) wrote:
> >
> >>>Three people in the Mclaren GTR? Either they were dwarfs or acrobats.
> >>
> >>Mclaren F1 - 3 seater...
> >>
> >
> >Three people in the Mclaren F1 GTR? Either one of them was a dwarf or
> >a very nimble acrobat.
Berger is 6'-1" or so and he was with Dennis when he crashed a street
version so it aparently can accomadate tall people.
Tom
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niko.so...@pp.inet.fi (niko Solitander) wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:28:35 GMT, Jame...@SpamMeNot.rocketmail.com
> (David Sidwell) wrote:
>
> >>Three people in the Mclaren GTR? Either they were dwarfs or acrobats.
> >
> >Mclaren F1 - 3 seater...
> >
>
> Three people in the Mclaren F1 GTR? Either one of them was a dwarf or
> a very nimble acrobat.
>
In the United States a few years ago there was a 4 part documentary on the
Beatles. The series was done in conjunction with the Beatles when the re-
released all the CD-ROMs plus the "missing" John Lennon songs.
At the end of the last show you see a country road in England with Beatles
music playing in the background. A blue (?) and really neat car comes down a
country road and pulls up to a house. The three Beatles jump out of the
McLaren F1 that George Harrison is driving. They proceed to go into the
house.
Ringo and Sir Paul are not really tall but they are not dwarfs like Bowie and
Jagger. George owns the car and it may have been his house. As far as I know
he is a race fan and is also friendly with Damon Hill.
Frank (hoping to see more Honda power in the Jordan at Brazil and a win by
Damon)
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Tom Hiett <thi...@iastate.edu> wrote:
>niko.so...@pp.inet.fi (niko Solitander) wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:28:35 GMT, Jame...@SpamMeNot.rocketmail.com
>> >(David Sidwell) wrote:
>> >
>> >>>Three people in the Mclaren GTR? Either they were dwarfs or acrobats.
>Berger is 6'-1" or so and he was with Dennis when he crashed a street
>version so it aparently can accomadate tall people.
Just to make sure: I believe it was Dennis who did the 'driving' and
Berger who laughed his ass off. Suzuka, IIRC.
Gunther
>Tom
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> Jusy saw a news report here in Aus about an Australian
> squilliondollaraire (alleged) drug dealer dying with two other people in
> a rather nasty accident involving a tree and his McLaren F1, somewhere
> in Essex I believe. The car was a totally unrecognisable pile of bits
> and cinders and not a great ad for the vehicle's safety features. It
> looked like the accident was in a residential area though. Anyone
> ambulance chasers got any details?
It passed a european crash test and was driven away- the
first car ever to do so.
Richard Evans
<thi...@iastate.edu> writes
>p...@pop.netspace.net.au (peeby) wrote:
>
>> Jusy saw a news report here in Aus about an Australian
>> squilliondollaraire (alleged) drug dealer dying with two other people in
>> a rather nasty accident involving a tree and his McLaren F1, somewhere
>> in Essex I believe. The car was a totally unrecognisable pile of bits
>> and cinders and not a great ad for the vehicle's safety features. It
>> looked like the accident was in a residential area though. Anyone
>> ambulance chasers got any details?
>
>It passed a european crash test and was driven away- the
>first car ever to do so.
>
>Tom
>
Visited a friend this weekend and passed the crash site. The guy must
have had his foot down, the car ripped a tree in half and devastated the
surrounding area. The road was just outside of town. A classic small
English country road, trees and hedges a few yards from the road. The
road quality is poor, very rough gravelly tarmac with lots of bumps and
pot holes but fairly wide and straight in places, the type of road that
tempts you to put your foot down then bights back.
pe...@my-dejanews.com
Maurice Buxton
>
Talk in the papers that it wasn't an accident but a bomb that caused
the crash. Apparently the car split in two before it hit the tree and
was a complete fireball, he was a real dodgy dealer and heavily into
drugs - its plausible.
Vic
michael
> > > >> Jusy saw a news report here in Aus about an Australian
> > > >> squilliondollaraire (alleged) drug dealer dying with two other people in
> > > >> a rather nasty accident involving a tree and his McLaren F1, somewhere
> > > >> in Essex I believe. The car was a totally unrecognisable pile of bits
> > > >> and cinders and not a great ad for the vehicle's safety features. It
> > > >> looked like the accident was in a residential area though. Anyone
> > > >> ambulance chasers got any details?
> > > >
> > > >It passed a european crash test and was driven away- the
> > > >first car ever to do so.
> > > >
> > > >Tom
> > > >
> > >
> > > Visited a friend this weekend and passed the crash site. The guy must
> > > have had his foot down, the car ripped a tree in half and devastated the
> > > surrounding area. The road was just outside of town. A classic small
> > > English country road, trees and hedges a few yards from the road. The
> > > road quality is poor, very rough gravelly tarmac with lots of bumps and
> > > pot holes but fairly wide and straight in places, the type of road that
> > > tempts you to put your foot down then bights back.
> > >
> > Obviously it didn't pass that particular crash test!
> >
>
>
> Talk in the papers that it wasn't an accident but a bomb that caused
> the crash. Apparently the car split in two before it hit the tree and
> was a complete fireball, he was a real dodgy dealer and heavily into
> drugs - its plausible.
>
> Vic
A tree is the worst thing to mess with in ANY VEHICLE, I dont believe the tree broke in
half unless it was very small or rotten, in which case it wouldn't have killed them, the
alleged bomb could have course damaged the tree,
michael
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