What's the plural for Grand Prix?
Mark Newman
I used to know (honest!) but what is the correct (ie. French grammar)
way of pluralising "Grand Prix"?
Is it:
Grands Prix (as I suspect)
Grand Pris
or what?
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Nick Totoro
Ding, ding, ding, ding!!! You are correct! The plural form, at
least anglicized, is "Grands Prix," much in the fashion of
"brothers-in-law." I don't speak French, however, so I cannot be certain
as to the plurality in their tongue.
Nick
Iakovos Stamoulis
: The header says it all really.
: I used to know (honest!) but what is the correct (ie. French grammar)
: way of pluralising "Grand Prix"?
: Is it:
: Grands Prix (as I suspect)
: Grand Pris
: or what?
if Matrix becomes Matrices
then as Prix has a similar end if should be
Grand Prices
;-)
: MarkN
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<"NTo...@aol.com, nick"@www2.pcy.mci.net> writes
> Ding, ding, ding, ding!!! You are correct! The plural form, at
>least anglicized, is "Grands Prix," much in the fashion of
>"brothers-in-law." I don't speak French, however, so I cannot be certain
>as to the plurality in their tongue.
> Nick
>
Completely correct in both languages. Grands Prix. Go to the top of the
class!
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Vincent Tong
> : way of pluralising "Grand Prix"?
It would be "Grands Prix" en francais, unless "prix" is feminine, then it would be
"Grandes Prix" but I'm too lazy to look it up.
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Régis MOTHEAU
>In article <4kepn3$d...@news.internetmci.com>, Nick Totoro
><"NTo...@aol.com, nick"@www2.pcy.mci.net> writes
>> Ding, ding, ding, ding!!! You are correct! The plural form, at
>>least anglicized, is "Grands Prix," much in the fashion of
>>"brothers-in-law." I don't speak French, however, so I cannot be certain
>>as to the plurality in their tongue.
>> Nick
>>
>Completely correct in both languages. Grands Prix. Go to the top of the
>class!
parfaitement, en français le pluriel de "Grand Prix" est :
"Grands prix".
Régis
Mark J. Frusciante
>> : I used to know (honest!) but what is the correct (ie. French grammar)
>> : way of pluralising "Grand Prix"?
>It would be "Grands Prix" en francais, unless "prix" is feminine, then it would be
>"Grandes Prix" but I'm too lazy to look it up.
Having spent my youth, including the time alotted for French grammar,
studying Comparitive Female Anatomy, could you explain this to me?
I am under the impression that Grand Prix translates, at least
colloquially to Big/Large/Supreme Prize/Price, Non?
If so, wouldn't the plural then be Big Prizes? (Etc.) Oui?
What am I missing here?
Thanks ahead,
Mark
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Mark Newman
>"Grands prix".
All I can say in response to the original question is: merci!
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Bruno Melli
: If so, wouldn't the plural then be Big Prizes? (Etc.) Oui?
In French both the adjective and the noun change according
to gender and number of things involved. So to follow your
example it would be "Bigs Prizes". Now it happens that prix is one of
these nouns that is spelled the same when singular or plural.
So you end up with "grands prix". (Which you guys would know if instead of
flamming posts in French you tried to lean the language :-)
bruno.
Peter JACKSON
>
> Vincent Tong <vt...@compusmart.ab.ca> wrote:
> >> : I used to know (honest!) but what is the correct (ie. French grammar)
> >> : way of pluralising "Grand Prix"?
>
> >It would be "Grands Prix" en francais, unless "prix" is feminine, then it would be
> >"Grandes Prix" but I'm too lazy to look it up.
>
> Having spent my youth, including the time alotted for French grammar,
> studying Comparitive Female Anatomy, could you explain this to me?
>
> I am under the impression that Grand Prix translates, at least
> colloquially to Big/Large/Supreme Prize/Price, Non?
>
>
>
> Thanks ahead,
> Mark
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You are missing that PRIX is the correct form for both singular
and plural.
Peter
Top Secret
vt...@compusmart.ab.ca writes:
>It would be "Grands Prix" en francais, unless "prix" is feminine, then it would be
>"Grandes Prix" but I'm too lazy to look it up.
Vincent, your first answer is the right one: the plural for Grand Prix
really is 'Grands Prix' ... and 'Prix' is masculine.
Eric Gilbert
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Mark J. Frusciante
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>So you end up with "grands prix". (Which you guys would know if instead of
>flamming posts in French you tried to lean the language :-)
I have leaned the language, I leaned it right out of my life!
(Thanks for the mini-lesson, there's now one less node of ignorance in
the universe.)
kimberly delafuente
pronounce the "s"? or is it silent???
kimberly
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Le Metropolitain
>okay, now that we've all figured out that it's "grands prix," do you
>pronounce the "s"? or is it silent???
>kimberly
The rule of thumb is you never pronounce the plural S at the end of a noun and
adjectives. It is not needed because the articles and verbs show the plural
form and are pronounced differently.
La Williams est la plus rapide. (The Williams is fastest)
^^ ^^^ ^^ (singular)
Les Williams sont les plus rapides. (The Williams are fastest)
^^^ ^^^^ ^^^ (plural)
The S is silent in Williams and in rapides but the article LES is pronounced
differently from its singular form and, as you can see, the verb is
spelled and pronounced differently as well.
However, a rule would not be a rule if there were no exceptions, ie. words
such as CHEVAL (horse) whose plural form becomes CHEVAUX (horses) as in
CHEVAUX VAPEUR (horse power).
Nicol Simard
ps. As this is nothing but the truth, even the exemples are true, ie. the
Williams ARE fastest ;)
^^^
Top Secret
kimberly delafuente, >>okay, now that we've all figured out that it's
"grands prix," do you
>pronounce the "s"? or is it silent???
>
>kimberly
In french, the 's' is silent, as for any ending 's' in a plural. In the
same way, the ending 'x' is also silent.
And BTW, you write the 'G' and 'P' in Grand Prix in capital letters,
because 'Grand Prix' is considered as an expression in itself.
Tim Downie
>
> okay, now that we've all figured out that it's "grands prix," do you
> pronounce the "s"? or is it silent???
>
> kimberly
>
>
> kimberly delafuente (loves jv's lopsided smile) kd...@csulb.edu
>
> to the 1996 formula one and indycar champs--
> ============go jacques villeneuve #6 and greg moore #99!============
The term is French so the pronounciation is the same whether it's
Grand Prix
or
Grands Prix
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Email: Tim.D...@bristol.ac.uk University of Bristol
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etevenar
In article <317FA8...@bristol.ac.uk>, Tim Downie <tim.d...@bristol.ac.uk> writes:
> The term is French so the pronounciation is the same whether it's
> Grand Prix
> or
> Grands Prix
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Tim Downie Department of Mathematics
> Email: Tim.D...@bristol.ac.uk University of Bristol
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I totally agree with you ... and I'm French so I hope that I know how to pronounce it.
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Christian Jahnsen
kimberly delafuente wrote:
> okay, now that we've all figured out that it's "grands prix," do you
> pronounce the "s"? or is it silent???
As far as I'm informed it's French, and spelled :
Grand Prix
Pronounced correctly, you would say something like :
'gra pri'
with the 'a' ending ... french like. :) Can't really describe that. I
never saw it spelled 'grands'. In Danish, we use the same words... the
french ones, that is.
l8r, dudes.
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