Vettel could become the first 3xWDC to never lose a WDC fight before reaching 3xWDC

[kung fu]

All the 3xWDCs had at least lost a WDC or even more before reaching
the third WDC.

Schumacher had lost 2 WDCs(1997 and 1998 both in the last race of the
season) before winning his third in 2000.


Prost lost 3 WDCs (1983 for Renault, 1984 and 1988 for McLaren) before
winning his third WDC in 1989.

Jackie Stewart lost 2 WDC(Matra in 1968 and Tyrrell in 1972) before
winnining his third WDC in 1973.

Niki Lauda lost 1 WDC (1976 in Ferrari) before winning his third WDC
in 1984.


Senna lost 1 WDC(1989) before winning his third WDC in 1991.


Fangio lost 2 WDC(1950 and 1953) before winning his third WDC in 1955.

Bottom line: Every single driver that won at least 3WDCs had lost at
least 1 WDC before reaching the 3WDC.

Is Vettel the greatest F1 driver or what? He will win his third WDC
without having ever lost a previous WDC!

[kung fu]

Piquet had lost 2 WDC(in 1980 and 1986) before winning his third WDC
in 1987.

[AC]

kung fu wrote:
> Piquet had lost 2 WDC(in 1980 and 1986) before winning his third WDC
> in 1987.
>

...and you lost the plot in 2012.


--
AC

[kung fu]

Vettel haters are pathetic.

[Mower Man]

Fanboys for *any* driver are pathetic!

--
Chris

'Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it
every six months.'

(Oscar Wilde.)

[kung fu]

The fact that Vettel will win his third WDC without having ever lost a
previous WDC is making haters mad.

[News]

If so, it would be intolerable to BernieCo Enterprises.

Watch for developments.

[Geoff May]

On 11/10/2012 17:07, kung fu wrote:
> [snipped]

>
> The fact that Vettel will win his third WDC without having ever lost a
> previous WDC is making haters mad.

You are going to look bloody stupid if Vettel does not win this year's
championship.

One feels that you should very seriously consider waiting until Vettel
has actually won the 2012 WDC before spouting.

Cheers

Geoff

[Brian Lawrence]

On 11/10/2012 16:46, kung fu wrote:
> All the 3xWDCs had at least lost a WDC or even more before reaching
> the third WDC.

Why does 2009 not count as a loss for Vettel? He finished second, 11
points behind Button. Perhaps because he never led the WDC table in
2009, BUT Fangio didn't lead it in 1953 either, and by that measure he
therefore won five in succession.

Oh look! Stewart never led in 1968, and led for one event (the first in
1972, they shouldn't count either.

Senna only led for two events in 1989 - events 3 and 4.

Piquet only led for two events in 1986 - events 1 and 3.

--

Brian W Lawrence
Wantage
Oxfordshire

[kung fu]

On 11 oct, 14:53, Geoff May <GeoffMay_do_not_spam...@nospam.com>
wrote:

Vettel will win the WDC before the last race of the season. Nothing
will stop him now.

[kung fu]

Button won a very dominating WDC mid season. This does not count. It
was a one man season in 2009.

[kung fu]

Button won a very dominating WDC mid season. This does not count. It

was a one man season in 2009, that was over by mid season. Just like
Schumacher won a very dominating 2001 WDC mid season.

[kung fu]

Fangio led in 1950

Stewart led in 1972

Senna led in 1989

Piquet led in 1986




Vettel NEVER lead in 2009. Not even for 1 event.

[kung fu]

In 2009 when Button won the WDC, he relaxed and let Barrichello and
the other drivers win races.

2009 does not count as a WDC lost by Vettel, since Button won early
the WDC and relaxed for the rest of the season.


Similar to Schumacher in 2001.

[Brian Lawrence]

Button didn't win until Brazil on October 18, with just Abu Dhabi left.

[Brian Lawrence]

Apart from Fangio in 1950, I actually mentioned all of those in
my previous post, BUT, pointed out that their lead was short-lived.

[Brian Lawrence]

On 11/10/2012 18:06, kung fu wrote:
> In 2009 when Button won the WDC, he relaxed and let Barrichello and
> the other drivers win races.

Yeah of course he did. Unbelievable.

> 2009 does not count as a WDC lost by Vettel, since Button won early
> the WDC and relaxed for the rest of the season.

Brazil, in October wasn't early.

In 2009, Vettel was placed either 3rd or 2nd behind Button from round
3 (China) to the end of the season (except for after the European GP).
With two races left Vettel was only 14 points behind (20 points available).

> Similar to Schumacher in 2001.

Not even close.

[Bigbird]

kung fu wrote:

[snip porkies]

[Ian Dalziel]

2009 is further back than Mr kung fu can remember.

--

Ian D

[Ian Dalziel]

And Ascari and Ferrari dominated in 1952 and 1953, splitting Fangio's
run...

But you've never heard of them, have you?

--

Ian D

[Mower Man]

Well, it doesn't bother me.

Don't you realise that you appear so bloody stupid posting the same
twaddle time after time after time...?

[kung fu]

Vettel NEVER led the WDC in 2009. NEVER. It was a one man show. Button
had a dominating car. Period.

Vettel has never lost a WDC in the last race of the season.

He has never lost a WDC. Nor will he ever lose a WDC.

He is that good.

[kung fu]

Vettel is better than Schumacher, Prost, Lauda, Stewart, Senna,
Fangio and Piquet. He is not lame enough to lose a WDC fight. He
always wins his WDC fights. This year he will win his third. He is the
F1 GOAT!

[kung fu]

[kung fu]

[kung fu]

[kung fu]

On 11 oct, 16:31, Ian Dalziel <iandalz...@lineone.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:00:44 -0700 (PDT), kung fu
>

> <kungfu1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Button won a very dominating WDC mid season. This does not count. It
> >was a one man season in 2009, that was over by mid season. Just like
> >Schumacher won a very dominating 2001 WDC mid season.
>
> And Ascari and Ferrari dominated in 1952 and 1953, splitting Fangio's
> run...
>
> But you've never heard of them, have you?
>
> --
>
> Ian D

[kung fu]

Button won 6 of the 7 first races in 2009. That is Schumacher-esque.

2009 does not count as a WDC lost by Vettel because Vettel NEVER led
the WDC. Never. Not even for a week.

Vettel has never lost a WDC fight.

He is that good!

[kung fu]

Button won four races in a row in 2009.

Bahrain 26/04/2009 Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 57 1:31:48.182
Spain 10/05/2009 Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 66 1:37:19.202
Monaco 24/05/2009 Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 78 1:40:44.282
Turkey 07/06/2009 Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 58 1:26:24.848

Only dominating cars have allowed drivers to win 4 races in a row in
F1 history.

Only drivers with dominating cars have won 4 races in a row during a
F1 season.

Every single time a driver won 4 races in a row during a F1 season,
that driver ALWAYS WON THE WDC THAT SEASON. ALWAYS.

After Button won those 4 races in a row it was a given that he would
win the WDC, like all the drivers that won 4 races in a row during a
F1 season.

[Mower Man]

Or, perhaps the F1 GOAT, as you said?

Can't even type, can you.

How old are you? Idiot youf.

[Mower Man]

On 11/10/2012 10:07 PM, kung fu wrote:
> On 11 oct, 15:31, Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawre...@msn.com> wrote:
>> On 11/10/2012 18:00, kung fu wrote:
>>
>>> Button won a very dominating WDC mid season. This does not count. It
>>> was a one man season in 2009, that was over by mid season. Just like
>>> Schumacher won a very dominating 2001 WDC mid season.
>>
>> Button didn't win until Brazil on October 18, with just Abu Dhabi left.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian W Lawrence
>> Wantage
>> Oxfordshire

> Fangio led in 1950

LED?
> Stewart led in 1972
LED?
> Senna led in 1989
LED
> Piquet led in 1986
LED?

> Vettel NEVER lead in 2009. Not even for 1 event.

At last, better spelling. Or did you really mean Light Emitting Diode?

[kung fu]

Vettel will become 3xWDC at the age of 25 this year and there is no
reason to believe, with another ten years or so ahead of him, that he
won't be in a position to beat all of Schumacher's records. Destroy
those records, actually. After all, in 3-4 years time Alonso will
probably retire, Hamilton has likely crippled himself for the next 3-4
years by joining Mercedes and at the moment there are no other drivers
in that calibre.

Vettel will be the F1 GOAT.

[kung fu]

Vettel is the F1 GOAT. Period.

[Mower Man]

A GOAT being? A species of cloven hoofed mammal?

[AC]

kung fu wrote:
> On 11 oct, 14:03, AC <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>> kung fu wrote:
>>> Piquet had lost 2 WDC(in 1980 and 1986) before winning his third WDC
>>> in 1987.
>>
>> ...and you lost the plot in 2012.
>>
>> --
>> AC
>
> Vettel haters are pathetic.
>

Totally agree. Your point?

If there is any hate, its towards you. I have nothing but sympathy for
poor Vettel having to suffer cunts like you trying to make people hate him.

--
AC

[AC]

Mower Man wrote:
> On 11/10/2012 10:31 PM, kung fu wrote:
>> On 11 oct, 19:25, Mower Man <chrislov...@nospamf2s.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2012 10:12 PM, kung fu wrote:
>>>
>>>> Button won 6 of the 7 first races in 2009. That is Schumacher-esque.
>>>
>>>> 2009 does not count as a WDC lost by Vettel because Vettel NEVER led
>>>> the WDC. Never. Not even for a week.
>>>
>>>> Vettel has never lost a WDC fight.
>>>
>>>> He is that good!
>>>
>>> Or, perhaps the F1 GOAT, as you said?
>>>
>>> Can't even type, can you.
>>>
>>> How old are you? Idiot youf.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> 'Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it
>>> every six months.'
>>>
>>> (Oscar Wilde.)
>>
>> Vettel is the F1 GOAT. Period.
>>
> A GOAT being? A species of cloven hoofed mammal?
>

Its part of a track kit.

--
AC

[AC]

Mower Man wrote:
> On 11/10/2012 5:07 PM, kung fu wrote:
>> On 11 oct, 14:06, Mower Man <chrislov...@nospamf2s.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2012 5:03 PM, kung fu wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11 oct, 14:03, AC <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>> kung fu wrote:
>>>>>> Piquet had lost 2 WDC(in 1980 and 1986) before winning his third WDC
>>>>>> in 1987.
>>>
>>>>> ...and you lost the plot in 2012.
>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> AC
>>>
>>>> Vettel haters are pathetic.
>>>
>>> Fanboys for *any* driver are pathetic!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> 'Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it
>>> every six months.'
>>>
>>> (Oscar Wilde.)
>>
>> The fact that Vettel will win his third WDC without having ever lost a
>> previous WDC is making haters mad.
>>
> Well, it doesn't bother me.
>
> Don't you realise that you appear so bloody stupid posting the same
> twaddle time after time after time...?
>

TBH, I think he might be a genuine retard.

--
AC

[Brian Lawrence]

On 11/10/2012 22:08, kung fu wrote:
> On 11 oct, 15:35, Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawre...@msn.com> wrote:
>> On 11/10/2012 18:03, kung fu wrote:
>>
>>> Fangio led in 1950
>>
>>> Stewart led in 1972
>>
>>> Senna led in 1989
>>
>>> Piquet led in 1986
>>
>>> Vettel NEVER lead in 2009. Not even for 1 event.
>>
>> Apart from Fangio in 1950, I actually mentioned all of those in
>> my previous post, BUT, pointed out that their lead was short-lived.

>
> Vettel NEVER lead in 2009. Not even for 1 event.

Pretty much the same in 2010, he didn't lead until the season was
over.

However, he did LOSE in 2009, at the Brazilian GP, in October. Or
for the whole season, in fact, he was a LOSER.

Come to think of it he was a LOSER in 2008 as well. He won a race,
for Toro Rosso, so he must have been in contention, mustn't he?

It seems that drivers cannot lose unless their car isn't very good.
I have to say I'm totally shocked at this revelation! Who would have
thought it? Amazing!

[Brian Lawrence]

Perhaps, it's build with another nick ....

Ooops, sorry, shouldn't have said that.

[Noj]

Brian Lawrence wrote ...

>
> Perhaps, it's build with another nick ....
>

or Bigbird or me or...

[build]

On Friday, October 12, 2012 4:59:47 PM UTC+10, Brian Lawrence wrote:
> Perhaps, it's build with another nick ....

Damn u caught me ;-)

> Ooops, sorry, shouldn't have said that.

No Wurries mate :-)

> Brian W Lawrence

beers,

[Bigbird]

Now you sound like your drunk.

It strikes me that rzr and this guy (dung pu formerly ocean) are like
matter and anti-matter (or should that be doesn't matter). If they ever
start talking to one another we can just kill the thread and they'll
disappear.

You have to admit they hook a lot of punters using very simple bait.

[Noj]

Bigbird wrote ...

>
> Noj wrote:
>
> > Brian Lawrence wrote ...
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Perhaps, it's build with another nick ....
> > >
> >
> >
> > or Bigbird or me or...
>
> Now you sound like your drunk.
>

Hic... only sound ?

> It strikes me that rzr and this guy (dung pu formerly ocean) are like
> matter and anti-matter (or should that be doesn't matter). If they ever
> start talking to one another we can just kill the thread and they'll
> disappear.
>
> You have to admit they hook a lot of punters using very simple bait.

Do either of them have anything to say ? I can imagine both meeting
their heroes and pissing their nickers.

[Bigbird]

Noj wrote:

> Bigbird wrote ...
>
> >
> > Noj wrote:
> >
> > > Brian Lawrence wrote ...
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps, it's build with another nick ....
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > or Bigbird or me or...
> >
> > Now you sound like your drunk.
> >
>
> Hic... only sound ?
>

It wasn't a typo. ;)

[AC]

Bad you!!

The way the poor thing is repeating himself over and over, you have to
wonder. I almost half meant it nearly seriously, ish.

AC

[RzR]

On 11.10.2012. 17:46, kung fu wrote:
> All the 3xWDCs had at least lost a WDC or even more before reaching
> the third WDC.
>
> Schumacher had lost 2 WDCs(1997 and 1998 both in the last race of the
> season) before winning his third in 2000.
>
>
> Prost lost 3 WDCs (1983 for Renault, 1984 and 1988 for McLaren) before
> winning his third WDC in 1989.
>
> Jackie Stewart lost 2 WDC(Matra in 1968 and Tyrrell in 1972) before
> winnining his third WDC in 1973.
>
> Niki Lauda lost 1 WDC (1976 in Ferrari) before winning his third WDC
> in 1984.
>
>
> Senna lost 1 WDC(1989) before winning his third WDC in 1991.
>
>
> Fangio lost 2 WDC(1950 and 1953) before winning his third WDC in 1955.
>
> Bottom line: Every single driver that won at least 3WDCs had lost at
> least 1 WDC before reaching the 3WDC.
>
> Is Vettel the greatest F1 driver or what? He will win his third WDC
> without having ever lost a previous WDC!
>


LOL...as long as they have webber under control, vettel is golden...we
saw what happened when webber was loose with the same car...

[Ian Dalziel]

On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:27:16 +0100, Mower Man
<chris...@nospamf2s.com> wrote:

>On 11/10/2012 10:07 PM, kung fu wrote:
>> On 11 oct, 15:31, Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawre...@msn.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2012 18:00, kung fu wrote:
>>>
>>>> Button won a very dominating WDC mid season. This does not count. It
>>>> was a one man season in 2009, that was over by mid season. Just like
>>>> Schumacher won a very dominating 2001 WDC mid season.
>>>
>>> Button didn't win until Brazil on October 18, with just Abu Dhabi left.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Brian W Lawrence
>>> Wantage
>>> Oxfordshire
>
>> Fangio led in 1950
>LED?
>> Stewart led in 1972
>LED?
>> Senna led in 1989
>LED
>> Piquet led in 1986
>LED?
>> Vettel NEVER lead in 2009. Not even for 1 event.
>At last, better spelling. Or did you really mean Light Emitting Diode?

Erm, is this a wind-up? The past tense of lead is led...

--

Ian D

[Bigbird]

So my lead pencil used to have led in it?






































I thought it was graphite. ;)

[John Briggs]

That went down like a Led Zeppelin...
--
John Briggs

[Geoff May]

Perhaps someone is dazed and confused...

Cheers

Geoff

[Bigbird]

Lots of people talk and few of them know.

RASF1 anthem?

[Geoff May]

That is a good idea ;-)

Cheers

Geoff

[Mower Man]

To the tune of?

[Geoff May]

On 12/10/2012 21:13, Mower Man wrote:
> On 12/10/2012 8:03 PM, Geoff May wrote:
>> On 12/10/2012 19:14, Bigbird wrote:
>>> Geoff May wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/10/2012 18:54, John Briggs wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> That went down like a Led Zeppelin...
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps someone is dazed and confused...
>>>
>>> Lots of people talk and few of them know.
>>>
>>> RASF1 anthem?
>>
>> That is a good idea ;-)
>

> To the tune of?

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/ledzeppelin/dazedandconfused.html

Cheers

Geoff

[Mark Jackson]

Soul of a poster is created below.

--
Mark Jackson - http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
The true measure of a man is what he would do if he knew
he would never be caught. - William Thomson, 1st Baron Kelvin

[SNAFU]

It's nobody's fault but mine...

[mairsz]

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