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Chad

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Dec 14, 2009, 8:55:07 PM12/14/09
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Looks like Lotus are going with British Racing Green and yellow. The purists
are not going to be happy!

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80567

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Paul Giverin

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Dec 15, 2009, 7:37:22 AM12/15/09
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In message <4b26...@news.x-privat.org>, Chad <cbs...@safemail.com>
writes

>Looks like Lotus are going with British Racing Green and yellow. The purists
>are not going to be happy!
>
>http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80567
>
>
>
I don't know why they won't be happy. The green and yellow are the
colours used by the Lotus car manufacturers just up the road from me at
Hethel. Yes I know they are not British owned anymore but the road cars
are still made here.

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Sir Tim

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Dec 15, 2009, 10:41:33 AM12/15/09
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On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:55:07 +1100, "Chad" <cbs...@safemail.com>
wrote:

>Looks like Lotus are going with British Racing Green and yellow. The purists
>are not going to be happy!
>
>http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80567

As most teams are very international in character and the use of
national racing colours is long since extinct I can't see any
objection to Lotus using BRG.

I*can* see a strong objection to the team using the name "Lotus".

By the bye I seem to remember that the late lamented Denis Jenkinson,
(always idiosyncratic and quirky) flatly refused, when the Lotus F1
cars became "John Player Specials", to refer to them in his articles
as anything but " Lotus-Cosworths".
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Halmyre

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Dec 15, 2009, 12:00:36 PM12/15/09
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In article <5uafi55jk69ar2pks...@4ax.com>,
ben...@brooklands.co.uk says...

I remember that. I think Ford complained to 'Motor Sport' about the constant
referral to 'Cosworth' and editor Bill Boddy told them where to go.

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WebSlave

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Dec 15, 2009, 7:08:03 PM12/15/09
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Chad wrote:

> Looks like Lotus are going with British Racing Green and yellow.
> The purists are not going to be happy!

They are going to be a whole lot happier than with the ridiculous
Malaysian flag-coloured Renault model car that was shown when the team
was introduced.

I think it's closer to the Martini "poison green" Lotus had than the
original BRG, but we'll see what the final outcome will look like.
Anyway, any kind of green will be welcomed, because no other team has
it.

-Webs-

Chad

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Dec 15, 2009, 9:41:29 PM12/15/09
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Personally I'm pleased they are going with traditional colours. I liked the
name being revived from day one.

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NM

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Dec 16, 2009, 4:23:01 PM12/16/09
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On 15 Dec, 17:00, Halmyre <no.s...@this.address> wrote:
> In article <5uafi55jk69ar2pksl06td00krc4fg4...@4ax.com>,
> bent...@brooklands.co.uk says...

Me too, I remember that.

Ian Rawlings

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Dec 19, 2009, 7:57:49 AM12/19/09
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On 2009-12-16, Chad <cbs...@safemail.com> wrote:

> Personally I'm pleased they are going with traditional colours. I liked the
> name being revived from day one.

Just the name and nothing else? A Malaysian company buying tradition? At
least they didn't have the nerve to use Chapman's initials in the logo.

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Paul Giverin

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Dec 19, 2009, 8:08:29 AM12/19/09
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In message <d7vuv6-...@firewall.tarcus.org.uk>, Ian Rawlings
<new...@tarcus.org.uk> writes

>On 2009-12-16, Chad <cbs...@safemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Personally I'm pleased they are going with traditional colours. I liked the
>> name being revived from day one.
>
>Just the name and nothing else? A Malaysian company buying tradition? At
>least they didn't have the nerve to use Chapman's initials in the logo.
>
Yes they Malaysian owned but they are still making Lotus cars here in
Norfolk.

Chad

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Dec 19, 2009, 9:36:45 AM12/19/09
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Ian Rawlings wrote:
> On 2009-12-16, Chad <cbs...@safemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Personally I'm pleased they are going with traditional colours. I
>> liked the name being revived from day one.
>
> Just the name and nothing else? A Malaysian company buying
> tradition? At least they didn't have the nerve to use Chapman's
> initials in the logo.

Yeah even with a Malaysian owner. Lotus Cars is still a UK company, they
aren't using the name to flog Proton, and it sounds like they are honouring
the name by setting the standard for professionalism among the new teams.
(as well as talking up having respect for the legacy)

Maybe I'm shallow, but a Lotus a Lola and an Aston running around next year,
in whatever owner guise, was a really appealing thought to me.

Not being a Brit, the foreign ownership isn't as big a hurdle for me I
suppose.

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Ian Rawlings

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Dec 19, 2009, 10:03:58 AM12/19/09
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On 2009-12-19, Paul Giverin <pa...@giverin.co.uk> wrote:

> Yes they Malaysian owned but they are still making Lotus cars here in
> Norfolk.

Yes I'm aware of that, I have two, but they're real Lotuses, not
badge-engineered ones. The "Lotus" F1 team even had the cheek to waffle
on about being "based" in Norfolk but did admit that the team's real base
would be in Malaysia, including the engineering research.

Ian Rawlings

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Dec 19, 2009, 10:07:47 AM12/19/09
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On 2009-12-19, Chad <cbs...@safemail.com> wrote:

> Maybe I'm shallow, but a Lotus a Lola and an Aston running around next year,
> in whatever owner guise, was a really appealing thought to me.

The name alone is nothing, it's what was behind it, and all that's left of
that is in Lotus Cars in Norfolk, not in 1Malaysia's pit box. Similarly
the "Bugatti" veyron is by VW, not Bugatti, who are long since dead.

Lola I believe actually are Lola, who have carried on racing, it's a shame
that Proton didn't put their money behind Lotus properly and actually use
the brains they already have rather than painting their team as a
"british" traditional team in the UK, but back home, painting it as the
all-malaysian 1Malaysia.

Berf

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Dec 19, 2009, 10:19:34 AM12/19/09
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Chad wrote

>
> Looks like Lotus are going with British Racing Green and yellow. The purists
> are not going to be happy!
>
> http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80567

It was interesting to see that when Jaguar's F1 team debuted in 2000, their
paraphernalia outsold Ferrari's at F1 races. And that's an accomplishment.
Ferrari has been the perennial champ for hats, shirts, jackets and all that
shit for a long time.

Lot of pent up demand for that green, I guess! :)


Ian Rawlings

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Dec 19, 2009, 10:32:24 AM12/19/09
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On 2009-12-19, Berf <be...@live.ca> wrote:

> It was interesting to see that when Jaguar's F1 team debuted in 2000, their
> paraphernalia outsold Ferrari's at F1 races. And that's an accomplishment.
> Ferrari has been the perennial champ for hats, shirts, jackets and all that
> shit for a long time.
>
> Lot of pent up demand for that green, I guess! :)

Not that there was a BRG of course, the various different renditions of it
have all been of different shades!

Berf

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Dec 19, 2009, 10:45:26 AM12/19/09
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Ian Rawlings wrote

>
> On 2009-12-19, Berf <be...@live.ca> wrote:
>
> > It was interesting to see that when Jaguar's F1 team debuted in 2000, their
> > paraphernalia outsold Ferrari's at F1 races. And that's an accomplishment.
> > Ferrari has been the perennial champ for hats, shirts, jackets and all that
> > shit for a long time.
> >
> > Lot of pent up demand for that green, I guess! :)
>
> Not that there was a BRG of course, the various different renditions of it
> have all been of different shades!

Yeah, there was at one time a lot of debate over what the precise colour is.
I imagine that there still is to a degree.

I don't know if there is a Pantone number assigned to it. I doubt it, and
Pantone sets the standards that define colours. For example, all corporate
logos and professional sport team colours are registered with Pantone for the
purposes of accurate reproduction in ads and stuff.

Of course, there is also a lot of embellishment on traditional colours for the
sake of TV. Ferrari's "Marlboro Orange" was far more striking on television
than the traditional colours (which I think they returned to) that were by
comparison, somewhat dull on TV.


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