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[XYXPDQ]

Your choice for driver of the day?

[texas gate]

On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 2:27:27 PM UTC-6, XYXPDQ wrote:
> Your choice for driver of the day?

any passes?

[texas gate]

oops. passing is dangerous. in the woke world

[Edmund]

On 8/28/22 22:27, XYXPDQ wrote:
> Your choice for driver of the day?

Ham, he was really flying.

Edmund


--
“The further a society drifts from the truth,
the more it will hate those who speak it”

George Orwell

[Darryl Johnson]

On 2022-08-28 4:27 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
> Your choice for driver of the day?

I suspect a number of people will say "Verstappen". And certainly, going
from 14th to 1st meets all the criteria.

But, in my mind, the huge performance advantage of the Red Bull car
mitigates that achievement considerably. I'm not saying that any of the
usual back marker drivers could have done as well, but I stringly
suspect that any of the better drivers could have.

So I am not giving my vote to Max.

I'd probably say "Russel", since he was able to more or less hang on the
Red Bulls in a car that suffered a significant performance deficit.

[Dan the Man]

On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 4:27:27 PM UTC-4, XYXPDQ wrote:
> Your choice for driver of the day?

I'll say Sainz for getting third place on tires that were degrading pretty fast.

Dan

[Sir Tim]

XYXPDQ <qwrt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Your choice for driver of the day?
>

Don’t see how anyone could give it to anybody except Max - a great drive.

--
Sir Tim

[XYXPDQ]

On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 1:27:27 PM UTC-7, XYXPDQ wrote:
> Your choice for driver of the day?

Max, his pace compared to his team mate is astonishing.

[Alan]

On 2022-08-28 13:27, XYXPDQ wrote:
> Your choice for driver of the day?

How can it even be close?

Verstappen.

[Alan]

He was in no way shape or form able to hang on to the Red Bulls.

And Perez in the same car was basically a full pit stop behind
Verstappen, so it wasn't JUST the "huge performance advantage of the Red
Bull.

Remember: even with the safety car closing up the field, Verstappen was
in 8th and 4 seconds behind Sainz and more than 3 seconds behind Perez
when the safety car ended. 39 laps later, he was 19 seconds in front of
Perez. That's 22 seconds or more than half a second a lap faster for
every one of those 39 laps.

[texas gate]

On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 3:17:18 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> How can it even be close?

fuck you
you fucking cunt

[texas gate]

On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 3:25:07 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> Remember:

[~misfit~]

On 30/08/2022 2:05 am, Darryl Johnson wrote:
> On 2022-08-28 4:27 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
>> Your choice for driver of the day?
>
> I suspect a number of people will say "Verstappen". And certainly, going from 14th to 1st meets all
> the criteria.
>
> But, in my mind, the huge performance advantage of the Red Bull car mitigates that achievement
> considerably. I'm not saying that any of the usual back marker drivers could have done as well, but
> I stringly suspect that any of the better drivers could have.

So Perez isn't one of the 'better drivers' then? I've always considered him to be a good journeyman
driver myself.

> So I am not giving my vote to Max.
>
> I'd probably say "Russel", since he was able to more or less hang on the Red Bulls in a car that
> suffered a significant performance deficit.

WTF is "Russel"?
--
Shaun.

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in the DSM"
David Melville

This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.

[Matt Larkin]

Obviously it was Max.

But Russell did surprise me; or maybe it was the Merc that surprised me. After the quali session
it looked like Merc were miles off the Ferraris, but if Hamilton had managed to get past Alonso it
looks like he could have made a decent race of it against Sainz, based on what Russell got out of
the car.

[ldpshddtti]

The obvious choice is VER. He never placed a foot wrong the whole
weekend, he didn't even do more than a single run in each quali session
and still topped the charts.

The not-so-obvious choice would probably be either SAI or RUS. The
horrendous Ferrari tyre deg made the latter stages of the GP quite
interesting.

--

[~misfit~]

On 30/08/2022 11:41 pm, Matt Larkin wrote:
> On Tuesday, 30 August 2022 at 02:12:20 UTC+1, ~misfit~ wrote:
>> On 30/08/2022 2:05 am, Darryl Johnson wrote:
>>> On 2022-08-28 4:27 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
>>>> Your choice for driver of the day?
>>>
>>> I suspect a number of people will say "Verstappen". And certainly, going from 14th to 1st meets all
>>> the criteria.
>>>
>>> But, in my mind, the huge performance advantage of the Red Bull car mitigates that achievement
>>> considerably. I'm not saying that any of the usual back marker drivers could have done as well, but
>>> I stringly suspect that any of the better drivers could have.
>> So Perez isn't one of the 'better drivers' then? I've always considered him to be a good journeyman
>> driver myself.
>>> So I am not giving my vote to Max.
>>>
>>> I'd probably say "Russel", since he was able to more or less hang on the Red Bulls in a car that
>>> suffered a significant performance deficit.
>> WTF is "Russel"?
>> --
>> Shaun.
>>
>> "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
>> in the DSM"
>> David Melville
>>
>> This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.
> Obviously it was Max.

Max is driving well at the moment.

> But Russell did surprise me; or maybe it was the Merc that surprised me. After the quali session
> it looked like Merc were miles off the Ferraris, but if Hamilton had managed to get past Alonso it
> looks like he could have made a decent race of it against Sainz, based on what Russell got out of
> the car.

The Merc is certainly shaping up to be a better race car than a qualifying car lately.

[leonard hofstatder]

On 8/30/2022 7:15 AM, ldpshddtti wrote:
>
> The obvious choice is VER. He never placed a foot wrong the whole
> weekend, he didn't even do more than a single run in each quali session
> and still topped the charts.
>

it's only obvious because he is in the best car, currently - driver only
counts for maybe 15-20% performance - until F1 goes spec cars best
driver is indeterminable

[Alan]

The thing that amazes me is how the Mercedes can be so easy on its
tires; easy to the point that they can't get them working for
qualifying, but which leads to really good race pace.

[Alan]

On 2022-08-30 05:46, leonard hofstatder wrote:
> On 8/30/2022 7:15 AM, ldpshddtti wrote:
>>
>> The  obvious choice  is VER.  He  never placed  a foot  wrong the  whole
>> weekend, he didn't even do more than  a single run in each quali session
>> and still topped the charts.
>>
>
>
> it's only obvious because he is in the best car, currently - driver only
> counts for maybe 15-20% performance - until F1 goes spec cars best
> driver is indeterminable

So why did he finish so far in time ahead of his teammate?

[Darryl Johnson]

On 2022-08-29 9:12 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
> On 30/08/2022 2:05 am, Darryl Johnson wrote:
>> On 2022-08-28 4:27 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
>>> Your choice for driver of the day?
>>
>> I suspect a number of people will say "Verstappen". And certainly,
>> going from 14th to 1st meets all the criteria.
>>
>> But, in my mind, the huge performance advantage of the Red Bull car
>> mitigates that achievement considerably. I'm not saying that any of
>> the usual back marker drivers could have done as well, but I stringly
>> suspect that any of the better drivers could have.
>
> So Perez isn't one of the 'better drivers' then? I've always considered
> him to be a good journeyman driver myself.

And he would have won if he hadn't been competing with Max.

>
>> So I am not giving my vote to Max.
>>
>> I'd probably say "Russel", since he was able to more or less hang on
>> the Red Bulls in a car that suffered a significant performance deficit.
>
> WTF is "Russel"?

So you've never missed a typo in one of your messages? Hard to believe!

[geoff]

Not allowed to compete or beat, and no point in wiping out, so all he
needed to do was hold position as a rear gunner.

geoff

[Alan]

That would explain him being a few seconds behind...

...and ignoring how far ahead he was when they started...

..but in that role it's better if he is close to Verstappen, not nearly
20 seconds back.

[~misfit~]

On 31/08/2022 4:56 am, Darryl Johnson wrote:
> On 2022-08-29 9:12 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
>> On 30/08/2022 2:05 am, Darryl Johnson wrote:
>>> On 2022-08-28 4:27 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
>>>> Your choice for driver of the day?
>>>
>>> I suspect a number of people will say "Verstappen". And certainly, going from 14th to 1st meets
>>> all the criteria.
>>>
>>> But, in my mind, the huge performance advantage of the Red Bull car mitigates that achievement
>>> considerably. I'm not saying that any of the usual back marker drivers could have done as well,
>>> but I stringly suspect that any of the better drivers could have.
>>
>> So Perez isn't one of the 'better drivers' then? I've always considered him to be a good
>> journeyman driver myself.
>
> And he would have won if he hadn't been competing with Max.

As would most of the field in that car.

>>> So I am not giving my vote to Max.
>>>
>>> I'd probably say "Russel", since he was able to more or less hang on the Red Bulls in a car that
>>> suffered a significant performance deficit.
>>
>> WTF is "Russel"?
>
> So you've never missed a typo in one of your messages? Hard to believe!

I typo now and then, sure. However I've seen "Russel" at least three times in this group recently.
Once is a typo...

[Alan]

On 2022-08-30 17:36, ~misfit~ wrote:
> On 31/08/2022 4:56 am, Darryl Johnson wrote:
>> On 2022-08-29 9:12 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
>>> On 30/08/2022 2:05 am, Darryl Johnson wrote:
>>>> On 2022-08-28 4:27 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
>>>>> Your choice for driver of the day?
>>>>
>>>> I suspect a number of people will say "Verstappen". And certainly,
>>>> going from 14th to 1st meets all the criteria.
>>>>
>>>> But, in my mind, the huge performance advantage of the Red Bull car
>>>> mitigates that achievement considerably. I'm not saying that any of
>>>> the usual back marker drivers could have done as well, but I
>>>> stringly suspect that any of the better drivers could have.
>>>
>>> So Perez isn't one of the 'better drivers' then? I've always
>>> considered him to be a good journeyman driver myself.
>>
>> And he would have won if he hadn't been competing with Max.
>
> As would most of the field in that car.
>
>>>> So I am not giving my vote to Max.
>>>>
>>>> I'd probably say "Russel", since he was able to more or less hang on
>>>> the Red Bulls in a car that suffered a significant performance deficit.
>>>
>>> WTF is "Russel"?
>>
>> So you've never missed a typo in one of your messages? Hard to believe!
>
> I typo now and then, sure. However I've seen "Russel" at least three
> times in this group recently. Once is a typo...

Unless it's been the same person all three times, why wouldn't it just
be three typos?

[texas gate]

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 7:52:12 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> Unless it's been the same person all three times, why wouldn't it just
> be three typos?

you useless, fucking faggot, pussy. trolling, cock sucker.
fuck off back to rec.sport.golf.
you fucking dumb cunt.

[texas gate]

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 7:52:12 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> Unless it's been the same person all three times, why wouldn't it just
> be three typos?

logoff
you brain dead
trolling
piece of shit

[geoff]

So as rear gunner it would have been a good idea to draw the rest of the
field up closer to the leader ?

And there was me thinking you were a top-gun racer and master tactician ....

geoff

[Bigbird]

~misfit~ wrote:

> > >
> > > WTF is "Russel"?
> >
> > So you've never missed a typo in one of your messages? Hard to
> > believe!
>
> I typo now and then, sure. However I've seen "Russel" at least three
> times in this group recently. Once is a typo...

In fact it has misspelt far more frequently and commonly than that.

There is only one poster who consistently misspells the name, so you
should have a word with him if it upsets you.

As many as half a dozen others have misspelt it but you shouldn't think
it a conspiracy.
Clearly it is a name that is easy to misspell. You'll have to get used
to it.
It's common where a surname has double letters. Just ask Kimi Raikonnen
and Mikka Hakinnen...

...or see the Max Verstapen fan page on instagram.

BTW do you notice how frequently misspell gets misspelled?

[Sir Tim]

Yes indeed :-)

Also, in the past tense UK grammarians will accept either “misspelled” or
“misspelt” as correct whereas Americans insist on “misspelled”.

--
Sir Tim

[~misfit~]

On 31/08/2022 10:12 pm, Bigbird wrote:
> ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>
>>>> WTF is "Russel"?
>>>
>>> So you've never missed a typo in one of your messages? Hard to
>>> believe!
>>
>> I typo now and then, sure. However I've seen "Russel" at least three
>> times in this group recently. Once is a typo...
>
> In fact it has misspelt far more frequently and commonly than that.

Maybe that's why it got under my skin this time.

> There is only one poster who consistently misspells the name, so you
> should have a word with him if it upsets you.

I don't make a note of who spells it wrong, it just reached tipping point for me this last time.
Now I've said my piece I'll STFU about it until / unless I get to that point again.

> As many as half a dozen others have misspelt it but you shouldn't think
> it a conspiracy.

I don't think it's a conspiracy I think it's laziness and shows a lack of respect.

> Clearly it is a name that is easy to misspell. You'll have to get used
> to it.

Any name is easy to misspell if you don't care if what you write is accurate. I notice names are
the most frequent words misspelled these days - likely due to spell checkers not always recognising
them. The days of people actually learning spelling seem to be behind us.

> It's common where a surname has double letters. Just ask Kimi Raikonnen
> and Mikka Hakinnen...
>
> ...or see the Max Verstapen fan page on instagram.
>
> BTW do you notice how frequently misspell gets misspelled?

Sometimes. I'm not the grammar police though. I just think that in a sport with only 20 drivers, in
a group who are avid followers of said sport it's not that hard to learn the drivers names.

Also I note that supporters of certain drivers always get their guys name right and that the
reverse often applies.

Cheers,

[texas gate]

adjust your meds
you fucking lunatic

[Mark Jackson]

On 8/31/2022 8:43 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:

> Any name is easy to misspell

Such as, for example, typing "Perez" for Pérez.

--
Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
There's no nondestructive test
for indestructibility. - Randall Munroe

[Hornplayer9599]

Mark Jackson wrote:

> On 8/31/2022 8:43 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
>
> > Any name is easy to misspell
>
> Such as, for example, typing "Perez" for Pérez.

Yes...but I would attribute that more to people (like myself) not
knowing where to find the accent on the keyboard as opposed to how to
actually spell his name.

--

Intelligence is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
--Carl Sagan

[~misfit~]

On 1/09/2022 4:49 pm, Hornplayer9599 wrote:
> Mark Jackson wrote:
>
>> On 8/31/2022 8:43 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
>>
>>> Any name is easy to misspell
>>
>> Such as, for example, typing "Perez" for Pérez.
>
> Yes...but I would attribute that more to people (like myself) not
> knowing where to find the accent on the keyboard as opposed to how to
> actually spell his name.

Yep. I used to have a list of the 'alt xxx' ASCII codes* for.... (I even forget the name of the
things now, non-standard English letters and symbols like this thing ç of this one Ü [written by
hitting 4 random digits while holding alt]) in a text document on my desktop to ensure I spelled
names like that correctly. However after moving that from one PC to another as I upgraded I decided
that life's too short.

I speak and write English and think that, even if I don't do grave accents, acute accents and
umlauts I get my message across.

[*] A quick search found this list which is similar to the one I moved across a half-dozen PCs:
<http://www.irongeek.com/alt-numpad-ascii-key-combos-and-chart.html> I you want to spell 'Checo'
properly you can get é by holding alt then typing 130, then releasing alt. I'm not sure how you
make the 'z' on the end sound more sibilant though.

[~misfit~]

On 1/09/2022 3:04 pm, Mark Jackson wrote:
> On 8/31/2022 8:43 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
>
>> Any name is easy to misspell
>
> Such as, for example, typing "Perez" for Pérez.

Indeed. I try to stick to 'Checo' or PER as much as possible. ;)

[geoff]

On 1/09/2022 6:10 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
> On 1/09/2022 3:04 pm, Mark Jackson wrote:
>> On 8/31/2022 8:43 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
>>
>>> Any name is easy to misspell
>>
>> Such as, for example, typing "Perez" for Pérez.
>
> Indeed. I try to stick to 'Checo' or PER as much as possible. ;)

Surely that should be PÉR ?

geoff

[Sir Tim]

~misfit~ <shaun.at...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/09/2022 4:49 pm, Hornplayer9599 wrote:
>> Mark Jackson wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/31/2022 8:43 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Any name is easy to misspell
>>>
>>> Such as, for example, typing "Perez" for Pérez.
>>
>> Yes...but I would attribute that more to people (like myself) not
>> knowing where to find the accent on the keyboard as opposed to how to
>> actually spell his name.
>
> Yep. I used to have a list of the 'alt xxx' ASCII codes* for.... (I even
> forget the name of the
> things now, non-standard English letters and symbols like this thing ç of
> this one Ü [written by
> hitting 4 random digits while holding alt]) in a text document on my
> desktop to ensure I spelled
> names like that correctly. However after moving that from one PC to
> another as I upgraded I decided
> that life's too short.
>

I can do accented (diacritic) characters on a PC but these days I mainly
use an iPad. As a result of this discussion I found out that you have to
hold your finger on the appropriate letter and a menu pops up giving a
choice of accented characters.

--
Sir Tim

[~misfit~]

Cool, handy to know. Thanks.

[Bigbird]

Hornplayer9599 wrote:

> Mark Jackson wrote:
>
> > On 8/31/2022 8:43 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
> >
> > > Any name is easy to misspell
> >
> > Such as, for example, typing "Perez" for Pérez.
>
> Yes...but I would attribute that more to people (like myself) not
> knowing where to find the accent on the keyboard as opposed to how to
> actually spell his name.

Not really. Accents are often omitted in the media. If you google
Perez/Pérez or say Raikkonen/Räikkönen you will find the accents are
omitted more often than not so not only is it hardly equivalent to
omitting a letter it's perfectly acceptable.

Surprisingly, if you look at his page on the RBR site it is spelt both
ways; with the accent twice without five times; now that's lazy.

https://www.redbullracing.com/int-en/drivers/sergio-perez-11

--
Bozo Bin
Alan Baker
Texasgate

[Sir Tim]

But only when you are in “mini keyboard” mode it seems.

--
Sir Tim

[~misfit~]

Cheers. Good to know that it's doable.

[Alan]

On macOS since...

...I don't know, but quite a while back...

...you have been able to choose between holding down a key to get key
repeat (after a short delay), or bring up a small menu of choices for
alternate characters with accents which you can then select with either
the mouse, or the arrow keys, or the number beneath each available choice.

[texas gate]

On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 11:38:14 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

> ...I don't know

yup, your gig

[texas gate]

On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 6:48:30 PM UTC-6, ~misfit~ wrote:

> Good to know that it's doable.

like pirating sky f1?