Tyres

Noj

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Apr 25, 2013, 6:43:31 AM4/25/13

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Pirelli are not making any changes to the range, except for hardening
and lowering of the operating range of the hardest one.

They claim 8 of the teams didn't want any changes. RB were one of teams
who are unhappy with the current tyres.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22290968

So it's "Carry On F1" - watch out for more banana skins.

Yuhler G

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Apr 25, 2013, 2:57:05 PM4/25/13

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They also announced super-soft tires to Monaco and Montreal. I'm wondering if
they'll last until St. Devote's or Senna's.

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AC

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Apr 25, 2013, 3:17:32 PM4/25/13

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Noj wrote:
>
> Pirelli are not making any changes to the range, except for hardening
> and lowering of the operating range of the hardest one.
>
> They claim 8 of the teams didn't want any changes. RB were one of teams
> who are unhappy with the current tyres.

Oh boo hoo to them.

>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22290968
>
> So it's "Carry On F1" - watch out for more banana skins.
>
>
>

Stop fretting, it will be fine. Bahrain was exceptional, and the tyres
will fair better in future races.

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AC

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Apr 25, 2013, 3:18:27 PM4/25/13

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Yuhler G wrote:
>
> On article <MPG.2be3192e9...@news.shared-secrets.com>, Noj wrote:
>
>>
>> Pirelli are not making any changes to the range, except for hardening
>> and lowering of the operating range of the hardest one.
>>
>> They claim 8 of the teams didn't want any changes. RB were one of teams
>> who are unhappy with the current tyres.
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22290968
>>
>> So it's "Carry On F1" - watch out for more banana skins.
>
> They also announced super-soft tires to Monaco and Montreal. I'm wondering if
> they'll last until St. Devote's or Senna's.
>

Canada might be interesting. Will the track just rip the tyres to shreds?

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Noj

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Apr 25, 2013, 3:39:37 PM4/25/13

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AC wrote ...

The tyres were designed to re-created the Canadian GP. If it all turns
to shit there...

geoff

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Apr 25, 2013, 5:07:23 PM4/25/13

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"Yuhler G" <rstrezn...@znvyahyy.invalid> wrote in message
news:MPG.2be370a4d...@nntp.aioe.org...

>
> On article <MPG.2be3192e9...@news.shared-secrets.com>, Noj
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Pirelli are not making any changes to the range, except for hardening
>> and lowering of the operating range of the hardest one.
>>
>> They claim 8 of the teams didn't want any changes. RB were one of teams
>> who are unhappy with the current tyres.
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22290968
>>
>> So it's "Carry On F1" - watch out for more banana skins.
>
> They also announced super-soft tires to Monaco and Montreal. I'm wondering
> if
> they'll last until St. Devote's or Senna's.

In monaco there's nowhere for the mountain of rubber to accumulate off the
racing line - could be interesting. Why not add to the fun by spreading
REAL marbles all over the track ?!!!

geoff

Ar

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Apr 25, 2013, 6:11:21 PM4/25/13

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On 25/04/13 20:18, AC wrote:
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> Canada might be interesting. Will the track just rip the tyres to shreds?

Let's take bets, which will last longer, the tyres or the road surface
in the Canadian GP?

Brian Lawrence

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Apr 26, 2013, 3:38:09 AM4/26/13

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Hijacking this thread :-)

These are some numbers on tyre usage so far:

Super Softs (Red)

GP# GP Stints #Laps Km.
==============================
1 AUS 21 168 891
2 MAS
3 CHN
4 BRN
------------------------------
4 1 21 168 891
Avg./stint 8 42

Softs (Yellow)

GP# GP Stints #Laps Km.
==============================
1 AUS
2 MAS
3 CHN 21 117 638
4 BRN
------------------------------
4 1 21 117 638
Avg./stint 6 30

Medium (White)

GP# GP Stints #Laps Km.
==============================
1 AUS 53 948 5027
2 MAS 43 576 3193
3 CHN 58 932 5080
4 BRN 34 369 1997
------------------------------
4 4 188 2825 15297
Avg./stint 15 81

Hards (Orange)

GP# GP Stints #Laps Km.
==============================
1 AUS
2 MAS 30 377 2090
3 CHN
4 BRN 59 837 4530
------------------------------
4 2 89 1214 6620
Avg./stint 14 74

Inters (Green)

GP# GP Stints #Laps Km.
==============================
1 AUS
2 MAS 22 136 754
3 CHN
4 BRN
------------------------------
4 1 22 136 754
Avg./stint 6 34

Wets (Blue)

GP# GP Stints #Laps Km.
==============================
1 AUS
2 MAS
3 CHN
4 BRN
------------------------------
4 0 0 0 0
Avg./stint 0 0

Pirelli now have some 'infographics' on their website:

http://www.pirelli.com/tyre/ww/en/f1/2013-infographics.html

Bahrain not yet available.

And also some similar graphics from 2012:

"http://www.pirelli.com/tyre/ww/en/f1/f1-archive/season-infographics.html"

"http://www.pirelli.com/tyre/ww/en/f1/f1-archive/gp-infographics.html"

I'm reminded of an old adage, "you can see at a glance .... absolutely
nothing', but that's probably unfair.

The data above was produced by myself from published data and should not
be treated as 100% accurate.

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Brian Lawrence

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Apr 26, 2013, 6:44:59 AM4/26/13

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On 26/04/2013 08:38, Brian Lawrence wrote:

Tyre selections so far:

GP Option Prime
========================
AUS Supersoft Medium
MAS Medium Hard [Inters Used]
CHN Soft Medium
BRN Medium Hard

Announced by Pirelli:

ESP Medium Hard
MON Supersoft Soft
CDN Supersoft Medium

2012 Selections:

GBR Soft Hard
GER Soft Medium
HUN Soft Medium
BEL Medium Hard
ITA Medium Hard
SIN Supersoft Soft
KOR Supersoft Soft
JPN Soft Hard
IND Soft Hard
ABD Soft Medium
USA Medium Hard
BRA Medium Hard [Inters & Wets used]

Pirelli may well decide to change the tyre choice for the British GP and
subsequent races, although it's not likely.

Yuhler G

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Apr 26, 2013, 2:17:47 PM4/26/13

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Please, don't give Mr. B more to think about. ;)

Sir Tim

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Apr 26, 2013, 3:44:26 PM4/26/13

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"geoff" <ge...@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote:

> In monaco there's nowhere for the mountain of rubber to accumulate off the
> racing line - could be interesting. Why not add to the fun by spreading
> REAL marbles all over the track ?!!!

Should work great alongside Bernie's nozzles spraying the track with water.
And what about allowing a short-cut via the Tip Top a couple of times
during the race?
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