F1 Coverage on TSN
Allan Dolby
Hey Canadians!
Is it just me or are you sick to death of TSN coverage of Formula One?
Why cant they just leave the commentary up to M. Walker and J. Palmer?
Vic Rauter is so annoying. He keeps refering to how boring F1 racing
is. Well Vic if you don't like F1, cover a different sport. Your
bringing us F1 supporter down.
Let me know how you feel Canadians.
Allan
Peter Morris
Allan Dolby (ado...@ebtech.net) wrote:
: Hey Canadians!
: Allan
As bad as Vic Rauter is, he is rivalled by Murray and Jonathan, whose
incessant stumping for the Brit drivers is very annoying. I guess I can
understand their rah rah for Hill, given the human propensity to cheer on
a winner, but note that in every race they spend some time
verbally elevating the likes of Martin Brundle to contender status. At the
same time, the short shrift they give to Villeneuve's phenomenal rookie
performance reeks of xenophobic jealousy.
TSN should get some credit for having those phone interviews with Gerry
Donaldson before and after every race. His opinion and commentary appears
to be most objective, which is a refreshing change.
FYD
Allan Dolby wrote:
> Hey Canadians!
> Is it just me or are you sick to death of TSN coverage of Formula One?
> Why cant they just leave the commentary up to M. Walker and J. Palmer?
> Vic Rauter is so annoying. He keeps refering to how boring F1 racing
> is. Well Vic if you don't like F1, cover a different sport. Your
> bringing us F1 supporter down.
> Let me know how you feel Canadians.
> Allan
You're right, he gets on my nerves everytime he opens his mouth, but he
is a lot better than Brian "I'm soooo excited" Williams. Let's just hope
that TSN will continue to use the european feed rather than ESPN.
Farshad
Damjan
Peter Morris wrote:
>
>
> As bad as Vic Rauter is, he is rivalled by Murray and Jonathan, whose
> incessant stumping for the Brit drivers is very annoying. I guess I can
> understand their rah rah for Hill, given the human propensity to cheer on
> a winner, but note that in every race they spend some time
> verbally elevating the likes of Martin Brundle to contender status. At the
> same time, the short shrift they give to Villeneuve's phenomenal rookie
> performance reeks of xenophobic jealousy.
>
> TSN should get some credit for having those phone interviews with Gerry
> Donaldson before and after every race. His opinion and commentary appears
> to be most objective, which is a refreshing change.
showing stupid basball live and taping F1 but what can you do. Vic is
one of the most annoying, borring and ignorrant people but ..... They
show us live racs most of the time, they let Brits comment it (which is
a plus) and its free. Imagine if they had Vic1 and Vic2 as commentators,
we would have to shoot ourselvs. As to the fact that Murray and JP are
bisaed well so are Vic and GD. They (Vic and Gerry) _ONLY_ talk about JV
and this and that. It is perfectly normal for commentators from a
certain country to talk about thir drivers.
Just imagine if they had ESPN2 feed ahhhhhhhhhhh
Enjoy
Damjan
Barry Posner
: > Vic Rauter is so annoying. He keeps refering to how boring F1 racing
: > is. Well Vic if you don't like F1, cover a different sport. Your
: > bringing us F1 supporter down.
too true. the next time i hear vic say "well, gerald, another boring F1
race" i will throttle him. this is part of the reason i got rid of cable
and watch the races on cbc now. next on the irritant list is "why doesn't
F1 go to rolling starts like indycar to avoid big pile-upsd at the first
corner".
: You're right, he gets on my nerves everytime he opens his mouth, but he
: is a lot better than Brian "I'm soooo excited" Williams. Let's just hope
: that TSN will continue to use the european feed rather than ESPN.
true also. the way brian williams sounds, it's a miracle he doesn't soil
his drawers everytime a couple of cars come within ten feet of each other.
bp...
Micah Erskine
On 18 Sep 1996 11:36:37 GMT, pmo...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Peter Morris)
wrote:
>As bad as Vic Rauter is, he is rivalled by Murray and Jonathan, whose
I'm not sure how to characterize his delivery. I find it
off-putting, like he was acting and he was aiming for what he thought
a sports caster should sound like and missing. What he says always
seems to be a bit forced and scripted.
>incessant stumping for the Brit drivers is very annoying. I guess I can
>understand their rah rah for Hill, given the human propensity to cheer on
>a winner, but note that in every race they spend some time
And for a national broadcaster to highlight that nation's
drivers.
>same time, the short shrift they give to Villeneuve's phenomenal rookie
>performance reeks of xenophobic jealousy.
As a JV fan this is of course annoying (especially Palmer),
but since it is hard to be objective I just let it slide. Maybe
Palmer's right and maybe he's not, but it isn't going to change what
happens on the track.
>TSN should get some credit for having those phone interviews with Gerry
>Donaldson before and after every race. His opinion and commentary appears
>to be most objective, which is a refreshing change.
The Donaldson interviews get a thumbs up from me as not only
does he have extensive experience in covering F1 (and probably
contacts as well) he has close access to Jacques because he is writing
a book in cooperation with him. For the Canadian F1 viewers who are
not JV fans I don't suppose this is a big plus. :-)
- Micah
Rick Haslip
Allan Dolby wrote:
>
> Hey Canadians!
>
> Is it just me or are you sick to death of TSN coverage of Formula One?
>
> Why cant they just leave the commentary up to M. Walker and J. Palmer?
> is. Well Vic if you don't like F1, cover a different sport. Your
> bringing us F1 supporter down.
>
>
> Allan
At first Vic just annoyed me. I'm not sure if it is his voice, his
know-it-all attitude or his new Eddie Munster slicked-back hair-do.
I can understand TSN needs someone to kick off the telecast, I can
live with that. But WHY does Vic have to shoot off his yap every
time TSN comes back from its every-third-lap commercial break?
Vic, just shut up will ya and turn it back over to MW and JP.
My g.f. likes to count the number of times in one TSN F1 telecast
I use the phrase "Shut up Vic" or some potty-mouthed variation.
It's kinda like the "High Bob" drinking game we used to play in
university while watching the Bob Newhart show (chug a beer
every time someone on the show says "High Bob", usually at least
8 times per 30 minute show. Oy vey is mir.)
The only thing worse than having Vic on the telecast would be
NO live F1 coverage at all or by having Brian Williams (CBC) team
up with Vic on all racing coverage (F1, Indy, etc). Shudder, it's
too early in the morning to think such thoughts.
Regards,
Rick
Gord Hutchinson
A long time ago, in a newsgroup far, far away,
Allan Dolby <ado...@ebtech.net> said:
>Hey Canadians!
>
>Is it just me or are you sick to death of TSN coverage of Formula One?
>
>Why cant they just leave the commentary up to M. Walker and J. Palmer?
>Vic Rauter is so annoying. He keeps refering to how boring F1 racing
>is. Well Vic if you don't like F1, cover a different sport. Your
>bringing us F1 supporter down.
>
>Let me know how you feel Canadians.
>
>Allan
Have to disagree with you. Vic Rauter is one of the few 'hosts' who
actually knows something about the sport he is covering. He is able
to ask intelligent questions (most of the time) of Gerald Donaldson.
A lot of the time, they are questions I would have liked to ask.
As far as his comments on F1 being boring, although he has mentioned
it several times, I can only remember 1 race (I forget which one)
where he made an issue of it. If memory serves, it was also a hot
topic on this newsgroup at the same time. So either he reads this
group and gets his 'script' from here or he accurately has his fingers
on the pulse of race fans and what they (we) are thinking.
Gord
--
Gord Hutchinson
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada
Julie Miles
Allan Dolby said...
> Hey Canadians!
>
> Is it just me or are you sick to death of TSN coverage of Formula One?
>
> Why cant they just leave the commentary up to M. Walker and J. Palmer?
> Vic Rauter is so annoying. He keeps refering to how boring F1 racing
> is. Well Vic if you don't like F1, cover a different sport. Your
> bringing us F1 supporter down.
>
> Let me know how you feel Canadians.
>
> Allan
It could be worse. They (TSN) once had some other guy coming back
from commercials who informed the Canadian public that the drivers
were on "rain slicks". I can also bear with Vic if he's the
alternative to the egregious Brian Williams.
I think that by this time next year, we may all be looking back
nostalgically to what we have now. If we get the ESPN feed, with ads
inserted by ITV, and more ads inserted by ESPN (because the frequency
of ads in Canada is generally much higher than in Britain) - well, the
coverage could take a real mauling.
Cheers,
Julie
--
Julie Miles
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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by stupidity"
Opinions are mine and do not reflect those of my employer.
Alexander Kung
Allan Dolby wrote:
>
> Hey Canadians!
>
> Is it just me or are you sick to death of TSN coverage of Formula One?
>
> Why cant they just leave the commentary up to M. Walker and J. Palmer?
> Vic Rauter is so annoying. He keeps refering to how boring F1 racing
> is. Well Vic if you don't like F1, cover a different sport. Your
> bringing us F1 supporter down.
>
> Let me know how you feel Canadians.
>
> Allan
Yes Vic is annoying sometimes but we do get the race live and it is
better than Brian Williams.
The GD commentary are great.
Also could do without the commercial break every 2 laps
M.Wlaker is find, ditch JP.
If not Vic what choices do we have
Later
Alex
Siobhain O'Reilly
>
> If not Vic what choices do we have
>
> Later
>
> Alex
I think Darren Dutyschen (sorry, I know that's spelled incorrectly!)
would do a stellar job. He's charismatic, knowledgeable -- he's filled
in for Vic in the past and was a pleasure to watch.
Patrick Chamandy
Rick Haslip wrote:
>
>
> My g.f. likes to count the number of times in one TSN F1 telecast
> I use the phrase "Shut up Vic" or some potty-mouthed variation.
Rick, do we have the same girlfriend? :-)
The language can be pretty foul so early on the Lord's day.
--
Patrick Chamandy
Toronto, Canada
Derek Paul Da Silva
Julie Miles (mil...@enr.gov.ab.ca) wrote:
: Allan Dolby said...
: > Hey Canadians!
: >
: > Is it just me or are you sick to death of TSN coverage of Formula One?
: >
: > Why cant they just leave the commentary up to M. Walker and J. Palmer?
: > Vic Rauter is so annoying. He keeps refering to how boring F1 racing
: > is. Well Vic if you don't like F1, cover a different sport. Your
: > bringing us F1 supporter down.
: >
: > Let me know how you feel Canadians.
: >
: > Allan
: It could be worse.
It SHOULD be better.
Vic Rauter is clearly uninterested in F1, he sounds like he's
bored when trying to come up with something to say.
Usually, his slowly meandering comments end up just eating valuable
air space, while MW is telling non-TSN viewers what is really
happening.
Fire the twit!
Regards,
Derek Silva
ddas...@sfu.ca
.
Greg Brokenshire
Doug Bowles
In article <52h8m2$8...@news.interlog.com>,
Dutch is a great hockey mouth and can be hilarious at times, but I shudder to
think of him hosting an auto race. I watched him for years in Edmonton and as
long as he sticks to what suits him, he's great.
DB
Ryan Harrison
Siobhain O'Reilly wrote:
>
> >
> > If not Vic what choices do we have
> >
> > Later
> >
> > Alex
>
> I think Darren Dutyschen (sorry, I know that's spelled incorrectly!)
> would do a stellar job. He's charismatic, knowledgeable -- he's filled
> in for Vic in the past and was a pleasure to watch.
I think TSN should go all out and get a real commentator, someone who is
a former F1 great, like Mansell, Prost, etc.
victor lewin
Alexander Kung (a...@interlog.com) wrote:
: Allan Dolby wrote:
: >
: >
: > Is it just me or are you sick to death of TSN coverage of Formula One?
: >
: > Why cant they just leave the commentary up to M. Walker and J. Palmer?
: > Vic Rauter is so annoying. He keeps refering to how boring F1 racing
: > is. Well Vic if you don't like F1, cover a different sport. Your
: > bringing us F1 supporter down.
: >
: > Let me know how you feel Canadians.
: >
: > Allan
: Yes Vic is annoying sometimes but we do get the race live and it is
: better than Brian Williams.
: The GD commentary are great.
: Also could do without the commercial break every 2 laps
: M.Wlaker is find, ditch JP.
: If not Vic what choices do we have
Agreed!! It is great to have the races live! Donaldson is great. It is
unfortunate that we have a slew of commercials. And sometimes they cut
away at the worst times! Vic does get very annoying at times. I don't
know if he is trying to come across as an F1 bigwig or what. But he
doesn't cut it with me. Can't have it all, as usual! Let's hope the ITV
deal next year isn't worse than what we have now.
Help me in my weakness
I heard the drifter say...
VIC (not Rauter)
R H Pearson
C'mon guys. Without TSN we don't get live coverage here in Canada, but
for once a year and the Canadian GP. Admit it, you enjoy getting up early
to watch races... don't kick a gift horse in the mouth... TSN is for most
of us, the exception being those in the RDS viewing area, the only way to
see races live.
Bob
--
The Pearson's
<bobjo...@sympatico.ca>
http://www3.sympatico.ca/bobjoycana
Gord Hutchinson
On Sun, 29 Sep 1996 16:51:18 -0400, in rec.autos.sport.f1, Ryan
Harrison said:
>Siobhain O'Reilly wrote:
>> > If not Vic what choices do we have
>> I think Darren Dutyschen (sorry, I know that's spelled incorrectly!)
>> would do a stellar job.
>
>a former F1 great, like Mansell, Prost, etc.
Don't forget Vic Rauter is *not* a commentator - he is only the host
of the telecast. Paying big bucks for a 'name' to be host with the
limited air time Rauter currently has would not be very cost
effective.
Gord
--
Be alert. The world needs lerts.
gra...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
R H Pearson (bobjo...@sympatico.ca) wrote:
: C'mon guys. Without TSN we don't get live coverage here in Canada, but
: to watch races... don't kick a gift horse in the mouth... TSN is for most
: of us, the exception being those in the RDS viewing area, the only way to
: see races live.
I think the point is, "why bother with Vic at all"? I'd rather they went
right back to the track after the commercials and I don't care if they
cut in during mid-sentence. Give me a half hour of the BBC before and
after the race and tell Vic to spend Sunday mornings in bed!
GB
Rob Paterson
>Don't forget Vic Rauter is *not* a commentator - he is only the host
>of the telecast. Paying big bucks for a 'name' to be host with the
>limited air time Rauter currently has would not be very cost
>effective.
>
>Gord
>
Actually the most important aspect for the ITV deal for British
coverage, the commercials, will work in favor of Canadians.
We knew we were gonna get commercials on the BBC live feed,
so Vic has to fill in when action happens during breaks. With
ITV or ESPN commentary next season the commercials are
planned. So, there will be no more inane Vic Rauter comments
when TSN comes back from commercial.
IMHO, more important than having Vic Rauter fired, we have to
lobby TSN to pick up the ITV live feed, instead of the ESPN feed.
It would be very easy for TSN to go back to the ESPN feed like
they used a few years ago, but I'd far rather hear Walker than
Varsha, and anyone would be better than Cheever or, even Derek
Bell for that matter. Honestly, we Canadians don't know how lucky
we were getting the BBC feed this season. Even if Murray is awfully
pro-Hill.
Rob Paterson
rpat...@direct.ca
Alexander Kung
> >
> Actually the most important aspect for the ITV deal for British
> coverage, the commercials, will work in favor of Canadians.
> We knew we were gonna get commercials on the BBC live feed,
> so Vic has to fill in when action happens during breaks. With
> ITV or ESPN commentary next season the commercials are
> planned. So, there will be no more inane Vic Rauter comments
> when TSN comes back from commercial.
>
> IMHO, more important than having Vic Rauter fired, we have to
> lobby TSN to pick up the ITV live feed, instead of the ESPN feed.
> It would be very easy for TSN to go back to the ESPN feed like
> they used a few years ago, but I'd far rather hear Walker than
> Varsha, and anyone would be better than Cheever or, even Derek
> Bell for that matter. Honestly, we Canadians don't know how lucky
> we were getting the BBC feed this season. Even if Murray is awfully
> pro-Hill.
>
> Rob Paterson
> rpat...@direct.ca
>
> >--
> >Be alert. The world needs lerts.
Varsha I can tolerate. Murry is better. Cheever and Palmer I don't like.
Maybe with the ITV feed TSN can go to commercial when they do. No commentator needed, problem solved. Although
I do like the Donaldson commentary.
Later