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Pete Fenelon

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Oct 4, 2002, 7:23:23 PM10/4/02
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The American Le Mans Series has fantastic live commentary broadcast over
the Internet by the same crew who do Radio Le Mans, led by the utterly
brilliant John Hindhaugh, a man who could do James Allen's job in his
sleep. He's the best racing commentator I've ever heard, bar none.

Unfortunately once in a while they forget to switch the mic off after a
race or qualifying session - they did tonight.

<Denis Nordern>
For anyone who isn't familiar with John Hindhaugh's commentary (1) he's
excitable (2) he knows his stuff and calls a spade a spade and (3) he's
from the North East (of England of course!) and delivers his opinions
rather firmly! He and the rest of the Radio Le Mans crew are in Miami
for the ALMS race this weekend, and it's been a rather stressful
qualifying session. And now the real trouble starts.
</Denis Nordern>


[There's already been one burst of conversation with John and Joe joking
about Johnny Herbert's chances of winning races - which they regard as
fairly minimal despite a quote Joe got about Herbert being in with a
chance - then more dead air...]

John Hindhaugh, 2348...... after a bit more dead air.

(Dramatis Personae: John Hindhaugh, lead commentator and quite the best
in the sport at the moment, and Joe Bradley, his pit reporter. Joe also
calls a spade a spade.)

[John is clearly annoyed at having to come to the track early
tomorrow and get the broadcast kit going. Apparently there is a TransAm
qualifying session at 8 and then nothing for many hours...]

JH: "NO, I'm not coming out in the morning, they can FUCK OFF!"
<brass band for a moment>
"All they have to do is fuckin' power it up!"
<sounds of car on track>

<now playing something that sounds like a 70s cop show theme, with car
sounds over it, and JH ranting in the background>

JH (angry) "There's a huge gap in the middle of the day, I'm not
coming in for 8 o'clock in the morning, they can fuck off! Not a
chance! They can aaaall fuck off! There's nothing on the track until
11:30!"

now he's mumbling about things being crappy ;)

[The problem of the national anthem now raises its head - someone's due
to sing this at the opening of the circuit]

JH: "Can you just make the point that there's a chapel service at quarter to
eight that you won't want to be doing it over" [this makes
sense when you see what's happening later)

JH: "No I'm not on the PA at that time..... who is....? Bastard!"

[bit more slience]

Now they're having trouble with the singer who's meant to sing the
national anthem to open the track! -- all that could be heard is John
talking to Joe. Joe is somewhere outside the commentary box...

Evidently the singer feels he needs a little something extra to help him
drown out the church service...

JH: "So he's not a singer then?"
<silence - presumably Joe replies>
JH: "But he can't sing without reverb? What's matter with him"
<silence - presumably Joe replies>
JH: "Tell him it's not fuckin' karakoke, it's the national anthem!"

[pause]

"No, no, Bob's packin' in... where are you Joe? Right, I'm comin' out -
where are yer mate! I'm comin' out....."

[sounds of John leaving the commentary booth]

[silence].... I'm tempted to keep listening.

2356 - sounds of a row outside the commentary box, indistinct but
clearly raised voices...

JH and Joe come back inside

JH: Who is he? Who is he <laughs> Can't sing without reverb!
(Joe sings the US national anthem in a fake American accent with lots
of reverb)

[cut to repeat of a recorded quote from Joe about Herbert "thinking he
was
in with a chance"]

Midnight - silence - I think they've noticed. :(

pete
--
pe...@fenelon.com "there's no room for enigmas in built-up areas" HMHB

DC

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Oct 5, 2002, 2:32:42 AM10/5/02
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On Fri, 04 Oct 2002 23:23:23 -0000, Pete Fenelon <pe...@fenelon.com>
wrote:

>The American Le Mans Series has fantastic live commentary broadcast over
>the Internet by the same crew who do Radio Le Mans, led by the utterly
>brilliant John Hindhaugh, a man who could do James Allen's job in his
>sleep. He's the best racing commentator I've ever heard, bar none.

He makes the races so much more exciting just to listen to than
anything we've actually seen on ITV this year (unfortunately, when
Eurosport show the races, they seem to have been there on a different
day).

>Unfortunately once in a while they forget to switch the mic off after a
>race or qualifying session - they did tonight.

[snipped, after much laughter, ignoring the tongue in cheek, I'm sure,
dig at the other JH...]

Must remember to listen to qualifying today. What time's it on?

David

TC

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Oct 5, 2002, 2:26:26 AM10/5/02
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"DC" <gojphKEE...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The race is on today!

I'm just amazed that Pete could recall all that dialogue so well! What's
the same thing as a photographic memory, but for the spoken word? I don't
know, but Pete has that gift!

TC


DC

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Oct 5, 2002, 3:50:29 AM10/5/02
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On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 02:26:26 -0400, "TC" <TomCana...@canada.com>
wrote:

>
>"DC" <gojphKEE...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 04 Oct 2002 23:23:23 -0000, Pete Fenelon <pe...@fenelon.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >The American Le Mans Series has fantastic live commentary broadcast over
>> >the Internet by the same crew who do Radio Le Mans, led by the utterly
>> >brilliant John Hindhaugh, a man who could do James Allen's job in his
>> >sleep. He's the best racing commentator I've ever heard, bar none.
>>
>> He makes the races so much more exciting just to listen to than
>> anything we've actually seen on ITV this year (unfortunately, when
>> Eurosport show the races, they seem to have been there on a different
>> day).
>>
>> >Unfortunately once in a while they forget to switch the mic off after a
>> >race or qualifying session - they did tonight.
>>
>> [snipped, after much laughter, ignoring the tongue in cheek, I'm sure,
>> dig at the other JH...]
>>
>> Must remember to listen to qualifying today. What time's it on?
>>
>> David
>
>The race is on today!

Oops - just realised that! Must remember to listen to Mr Hindaugh
tonight. Even if he doesn't forget to switch off the mic, the rest
will be entertaining....

David

Pete Fenelon

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Oct 5, 2002, 5:51:47 AM10/5/02
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TC <TomCana...@canada.com> wrote:
> The race is on today!
>
> I'm just amazed that Pete could recall all that dialogue so well! What's
> the same thing as a photographic memory, but for the spoken word? I don't
> know, but Pete has that gift!
>

Oh, it was so priceless that I was typing most of it in as I sat here -
at least partly for the benefit of any ALMS fans who'd packed in and
gone to bed after the qualifying session ended.

The race is 4pm Eastern time, 9pm UK, and runs for 2h45. If the quality
of the other ALMS races this year is anything to go by, it'll be another
cracker.

Emma

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Oct 5, 2002, 8:46:10 AM10/5/02
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Pete Fenelon <pe...@fenelon.com> writes

>
>Oh, it was so priceless that I was typing most of it in as I sat here -
>at least partly for the benefit of any ALMS fans who'd packed in and
>gone to bed after the qualifying session ended.

Okay so I went to bed but I had had a hard day! ;-p

>The race is 4pm Eastern time, 9pm UK, and runs for 2h45. If the quality
>of the other ALMS races this year is anything to go by, it'll be another
>cracker.

I promise to stay awake for that.

Main problem they are having with the track is the tarmac breaking up
with the pressure put on it by the ALMS and Cart cars, oh and the Saleen
re-arranging the concrete barriers...

--
Emma http://altgallery.shows.it
The Chocolate Monster http://chocmonster.rules.it

, oh

Emma

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Oct 5, 2002, 8:50:47 AM10/5/02
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Pete Fenelon <pe...@fenelon.com> writes

>The American Le Mans Series has fantastic live commentary broadcast over
>the Internet by the same crew who do Radio Le Mans, led by the utterly
>brilliant John Hindhaugh, a man who could do James Allen's job in his
>sleep. He's the best racing commentator I've ever heard, bar none.

Anyone who agrees should go to http://www.imsaracing.net and vote for
him to win the 'From the fans' award for this year.

><Denis Nordern>
>For anyone who isn't familiar with John Hindhaugh's commentary (1) he's
>excitable (2) he knows his stuff and calls a spade a spade and (3) he's
>from the North East (of England of course!)

IIRC he's from Sunderland.

>[There's already been one burst of conversation with John and Joe joking
>about Johnny Herbert's chances of winning races - which they regard as
>fairly minimal despite a quote Joe got about Herbert being in with a
>chance - then more dead air...]

My insider at Champion says they are finding it hard. Tyres will be the
main problem with the track surface breaking up and also the race being
held in the late afternoon/early evening.

>John Hindhaugh, 2348...... after a bit more dead air.

<G> I love that man - get him on ITV now!

Bob Dog

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Oct 5, 2002, 11:34:08 AM10/5/02
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Pete Fenelon <pe...@fenelon.com> wrote in message news:<ups8nb1...@corp.supernews.com>...

> The American Le Mans Series has fantastic live commentary broadcast over
> the Internet by the same crew who do Radio Le Mans, led by the utterly
> brilliant John Hindhaugh, a man who could do James Allen's job in his
> sleep. He's the best racing commentator I've ever heard, bar none.
<snip>

> [John is clearly annoyed at having to come to the track early
> tomorrow and get the broadcast kit going. Apparently there is a TransAm
> qualifying session at 8 and then nothing for many hours...]
>
> JH: "NO, I'm not coming out in the morning, they can FUCK OFF!"
> <brass band for a moment>
> "All they have to do is fuckin' power it up!"
> <sounds of car on track>

That was good for a laugh.

It's oddly related to something happening in Canada
on the CBC. There was a national crisis this week
because Hockey Night In Canada's host for the past 17
years, Ron McLean, was threatening to leave without a
raise. That in and of itself isn't why I'm telling
you this.

The man McLean replaced 17 years ago, Dave Hodge, was
fired from HNIC because he got frustrated on the air
(due to a strike by technicians, the union blocking
the broadcast of certain games) and tossed a *pencil*
on camera. He didn't fling it across the room, just
a foot or two in the air, and it fell on the floor.

If that got Hodge fired, will Hindhaugh be castrated
for his actions? ^_^


Bob Dog

Rachael Nex

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Oct 5, 2002, 7:09:52 PM10/5/02
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"Bob Dog" <bg1...@apexmail.com> wrote in message
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<snippy>


> If that got Hodge fired, will Hindhaugh be castrated
> for his actions? ^_^
>

Heheh. I think the severeity of the punishment depends on the status of the
perpetrator.

I could tell you some tales about working in radio and the curse of the open
mike, fer sure.

Rachael


Jason Pants

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Oct 5, 2002, 7:26:55 PM10/5/02
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"Bob Dog" <bg1...@apexmail.com> wrote in message
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Well, was it a #2 pencil?


Pants


Jason Pants

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Oct 5, 2002, 7:40:10 PM10/5/02
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"Fair bursting" <noshitshe...@fakeid.it> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 05 Oct 2002 23:26:55 GMT, "Jason Pants"
> <su...@karate.monkey.death.car> wrote:
>
> >"Bob Dog" <bg1...@apexmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:4fa573de.02100...@posting.google.com...
>
> >> The man McLean replaced 17 years ago, Dave Hodge, was
> >> fired from HNIC because he got frustrated on the air
> >> (due to a strike by technicians, the union blocking
> >> the broadcast of certain games) and tossed a *pencil*
> >> on camera. He didn't fling it across the room, just
> >> a foot or two in the air, and it fell on the floor.
> >
> >Well, was it a #2 pencil?
>
> No, the problem was it was up his butt at the time.

Ah, so then it *was* a #2 pencil.


Pants


Dillon Pyron

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Oct 5, 2002, 11:22:35 PM10/5/02
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No shit (reaches for the dump button :-)

Did it twice in the 70's. Once, nobody noticed. The other time, I had
to write an official letter of apology, copying the FCC. Oh yeah, and a
check.

Pete Fenelon

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Oct 6, 2002, 12:44:06 PM10/6/02
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Rachael Nex <rat...@badrats.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I could tell you some tales about working in radio and the curse of the open
> mike, fer sure.
>

A horrid "remember you're not just talking to the other guy in the
studio" event happened to me back when I co-hosted a show on the
university radio station.

The other presenter of the show worked part-time in a record shop. In
between records he was telling an anecdote about some daft local kids
who were trying to buy "T'Fugees, on taaaaape". Now it was a cracker of
an anecdote, particularly as Chris was a fine angry raconteur. Trouble is,
the punchline of it was one kid outside the shop shouting to his mate
inside "Nah, T'Fugees, ON TAAAAAPE, YER STOOPID C*NT!", and Chris just
motored on and delivered the punchline in his own inimitable fashion.

NEVER, EVER have I heard dead air sound quite so scary.

Then there's some vague noises - Chris gasping for breath, my head
hitting the desk and Chris starting to mumble about "oh my god oh my god
oh my god...."

Then again we were the first show to put live blow football on the
radio (whilst commentating on it ourselves), so we were kind of
pushing boundaries....

Rachael Nex

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Oct 6, 2002, 2:32:47 PM10/6/02
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"Pete Fenelon" <pe...@fenelon.com> wrote in message
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> Rachael Nex <rat...@badrats.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > I could tell you some tales about working in radio and the curse of the
open
> > mike, fer sure.
> >
>
> A horrid "remember you're not just talking to the other guy in the
> studio" event happened to me back when I co-hosted a show on the
> university radio station.
>
> The other presenter of the show worked part-time in a record shop. In
> between records he was telling an anecdote about some daft local kids
> who were trying to buy "T'Fugees, on taaaaape". Now it was a cracker of
> an anecdote, particularly as Chris was a fine angry raconteur. Trouble is,
> the punchline of it was one kid outside the shop shouting to his mate
> inside "Nah, T'Fugees, ON TAAAAAPE, YER STOOPID C*NT!", and Chris just
> motored on and delivered the punchline in his own inimitable fashion.

LOL. Oh, boy.

>
> NEVER, EVER have I heard dead air sound quite so scary.

<chuckle>

>
> Then there's some vague noises - Chris gasping for breath, my head
> hitting the desk and Chris starting to mumble about "oh my god oh my god
> oh my god...."
>
> Then again we were the first show to put live blow football on the
> radio (whilst commentating on it ourselves), so we were kind of
> pushing boundaries....
>

We did cookery on the radio, which was amusing. And easter egg tasting
(surreal).

I never made a hanging offence mistake myself (though I did jump before I
was pushed when I left the station - which is a long story and although I
find it amusing, you had to be there), but I used to do support on the
breakfast show and the presenter there was always forgetting that when the
mike was open, it was like, *open*, dude. After a few near misses he got the
hang of it, though.

The most scary and far reaching event was at the end of the first restricted
service license we did (when I was first with the station before it had a
permenant license). On the last day of broadcast, all the presenters tried
to out-do each other with practical jokes. The two guys who crewed the
through the night show decided to swap the mikes over when they signed off
so they were all on different faders to their usual ones. Much hilarity
ensued to begin with, but then we adapted for the most part (why we didn't
replug them I don't know, pride probably !) Until Colin (brekkie show
presenter) forgot this again (which he'd done before but only mis cue
mistakes had been made, nothing serious, and we laughed them off) and was
trying to put me off when I was reading the traffic news (he always did
this, it was his way of things !). He thought he was off mike when he
whispered dramatically, before I could say a word, "Rachael, are you going
to fuck that mid morning presenter at the end of run party tonight or what ?
You know he wants to !! " Sadly my mike was closed and his was in fact open.
He remembered this, to his utter horror, about a nano second after he spoke
when said presenter, who was in the green room at the time, working his
playlist out and waiting to take over from us, and listening on the
broadcast speakers, sprayed his coffee all over the floor.

To add to the terror, said mid morning presenter was from a very religious
family, and was engaged to be married (it had to be said that nobody
actually knew this, least of all me or Colin). His parents and his
girlfriend were listening at the time. Girlfriend dumped him the next day.

One assumes that the DTI weren't listening, though, because we were able to
get another RSL not long after. But the station manager asked someone else
to present the breakfast show. ;-)


To top it off, all the phonecalls we got for the rest of the show were from
listeners wanting to know if I was going to or not. LOL !


Rachael

Mike Whooley

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Oct 7, 2002, 9:11:19 AM10/7/02
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On 5 Oct 2002 08:34:08 -0700, bg1...@apexmail.com (Bob Dog) wrote:

>If that got Hodge fired, will Hindhaugh be castrated
>for his actions? ^_^

Wasn't there a similar 'blooper' on BBC recently during the World Cup,
where one of the studio guest was talking about the 'fucking Krauts'?

Ouch!
Mike.

Andreas Långström

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Oct 7, 2002, 12:58:24 PM10/7/02
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Pete Fenelon <pe...@fenelon.com> wrote:
>who were trying to buy "T'Fugees, on taaaaape". Now it was a cracker of
>an anecdote, particularly as Chris was a fine angry raconteur. Trouble is,
>the punchline of it was one kid outside the shop shouting to his mate
>inside "Nah, T'Fugees, ON TAAAAAPE, YER STOOPID C*NT!", and Chris just
>motored on and delivered the punchline in his own inimitable fashion.
>
>NEVER, EVER have I heard dead air sound quite so scary.

I don't see the problem, but then the English morals has always been an
enigma for us liberated folks up north...

>Then again we were the first show to put live blow football on the
>radio (whilst commentating on it ourselves), so we were kind of
>pushing boundaries....

Did this take place in the 50's, or what boundaries were there?

:-)

/Andreas

Pete Fenelon

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Andreas L?ngstr?m <e...@etek.chalmers.se> wrote:
> Pete Fenelon <pe...@fenelon.com> wrote:
>>who were trying to buy "T'Fugees, on taaaaape". Now it was a cracker of
>>an anecdote, particularly as Chris was a fine angry raconteur. Trouble is,
>>the punchline of it was one kid outside the shop shouting to his mate
>>inside "Nah, T'Fugees, ON TAAAAAPE, YER STOOPID C*NT!", and Chris just
>>motored on and delivered the punchline in his own inimitable fashion.
>>
>>NEVER, EVER have I heard dead air sound quite so scary.
>
> I don't see the problem, but then the English morals has always been an
> enigma for us liberated folks up north...
>

Cunt was identified as the maximally taboo word in the English language by the
Broadcasting Standards Commission.

FYI, here's the results of a poll they did:

WORD 2002 1998
Cunt 1 1
Motherfucker 2 2
Fuck 3 3
Wanker 4 4
Nigger 5 11
Bastard 6 5
Prick 7 7
Bollocks 8 6
Arsehole 9 9
Paki 10 17
Shag 11 8
Whore 12 13
Twat 13 10
Piss off 14 12
Spastic 15 14
Slag 16 18
Shit 17 15
Dickhead 18 19
Pissed off 19 16
Arse 20 20
Bugger 21 21
Balls 22 22
Jew 23 24
Sodding 24 23
Jesus Christ 25 26
Crap 26 25
Bloody 27 27
God 28 28

(there, in one posting I've made it look like uk.net.news.config)

There are a few there I wouldn't use and a few more I don't use lightly.

Andreas Långström

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Oct 7, 2002, 1:59:03 PM10/7/02
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Pete Fenelon <pe...@fenelon.com> wrote:

>Andreas L?ngstr?m <e...@etek.chalmers.se> wrote:
>>
>> I don't see the problem, but then the English morals has always been an
>> enigma for us liberated folks up north...
>
>Cunt was identified as the maximally taboo word in the English language by the
>Broadcasting Standards Commission.
<<<snip>>>

Oh, I understood that it was a "bad" word, I just dont understand why it
would be a deal to say it, especially when relating something someone
else said (true story or not) compared to calling someone a cunt on the
air, which might fall under slander or somesuch legal term.

>There are a few there I wouldn't use and a few more I don't use lightly.

Not using your vocabulary to the fullest? :-)

/Andreas

Rachael Nex

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Oct 7, 2002, 5:06:39 PM10/7/02
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"Andreas Långström" <e...@etek.chalmers.se> wrote in message
news:ansi17$5fs$1...@nyheter.chalmers.se...

> Pete Fenelon <pe...@fenelon.com> wrote:
> >Andreas L?ngstr?m <e...@etek.chalmers.se> wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't see the problem, but then the English morals has always been an
> >> enigma for us liberated folks up north...
> >
> >Cunt was identified as the maximally taboo word in the English language
by the
> >Broadcasting Standards Commission.
> <<<snip>>>
>
> Oh, I understood that it was a "bad" word, I just dont understand why it
> would be a deal to say it, especially when relating something someone
> else said (true story or not) compared to calling someone a cunt on the
> air, which might fall under slander or somesuch legal term.
>

I think it is just the word full stop that people might find offensive in
any context. I don't find it offensive as such in certian contexts (I mean,
y'know, I'm female - I have one of the items in question, innit, and I
certainly don't find my own body or the words used to name it offensive),
but it is the very last insult I would use to describe someone because
publicy it isn't an "accepted" word where I come from.


> >There are a few there I wouldn't use and a few more I don't use lightly.
>
> Not using your vocabulary to the fullest? :-)

I'd be interested to know actually out of that list which words people
wouldn't consider using and why ? I don't use racist words as insults but
other than that the rest don't bother me. In fact "slag" is a term of
affection often in my house - my dog is nicknamed "Slag-Dog" or "Slut-Puppy"
and my rats are sometimes refered to as a group as "you little slags". My
best girlfriend and I often affectionately say to each other, "... you
whorey tart" or "... bitch !" too.

Perhaps I'm just weird.


Rachael

Fritz

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Oct 7, 2002, 5:36:05 PM10/7/02
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"Rachael Nex" <rat...@badrats.co.uk> wrote in message
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> My
> best girlfriend and I often affectionately say to each other, "... you
> whorey tart" or "... bitch !" too.
>
> Perhaps I'm just weird.
>
You're getting me excited!

--

Fritz

"I was proud the other day when both Republicans and Democrats stood with
me in the Rose Garden to announce their support for a clear statement of
purpose: you disarm, or we will."
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2002


DC

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Oct 8, 2002, 2:33:59 AM10/8/02
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On Mon, 07 Oct 2002 17:24:53 -0000, Pete Fenelon <pe...@fenelon.com>
wrote:

>Cunt was identified as the maximally taboo word in the English language by the


>Broadcasting Standards Commission.
>
>FYI, here's the results of a poll they did:
>
>WORD 2002 1998

>Slag 16 18

Odd how Pot Noodle now find this a good term for their product. Even
odder is the fact that anyone eats the stuff...

David

Emma

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Oct 8, 2002, 3:56:07 AM10/8/02
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DC <gojphKEE...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Pete Fenelon <pe...@fenelon.com>wrote:
>
>>Cunt was identified as the maximally taboo word in the English language by the
>>Broadcasting Standards Commission.
>>
>>FYI, here's the results of a poll they did:
>>
>>WORD 2002 1998
>
>>Slag 16 18
>
>Odd how Pot Noodle now find this a good term for their product. Even
>odder is the fact that anyone eats the stuff...

Sadly they have now been told to stop using the adverts.

DC

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Oct 8, 2002, 4:29:44 AM10/8/02
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On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 08:56:07 +0100, Emma <Em...@excalvehs.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>DC <gojphKEE...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Pete Fenelon <pe...@fenelon.com>wrote:
>>
>>>Cunt was identified as the maximally taboo word in the English language by the
>>>Broadcasting Standards Commission.
>>>
>>>FYI, here's the results of a poll they did:
>>>
>>>WORD 2002 1998
>>
>>>Slag 16 18
>>
>>Odd how Pot Noodle now find this a good term for their product. Even
>>odder is the fact that anyone eats the stuff...
>
>Sadly they have now been told to stop using the adverts.

Well, they're still using them in the cinema. Saw one last night when
I went to see Road to Perdition. Superb film, stupid advert...

David

Emma

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Oct 8, 2002, 4:53:56 AM10/8/02
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DC <gojphKEE...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Well, they're still using them in the cinema. Saw one last night when
>I went to see Road to Perdition. Superb film, stupid advert...

IIRC cinema adverts have different rules to tv ones due to age
restrictions already being in place.

Martin W

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"DC" <gojphKEE...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Seems the cinema ads use 'slag' and TV uses 'phwoar' (sp).

Martin


Andreas Långström

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Rachael Nex <rat...@badrats.co.uk> wrote:

<<<snip>>>

>Perhaps I'm just weird.

Aren't we all? And what a dull place it would be if we weren't.

/Andreas

Rachael Nex

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"Emma" <Em...@excalvehs.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> DC <gojphKEE...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Pete Fenelon <pe...@fenelon.com>wrote:
> >
> >>Cunt was identified as the maximally taboo word in the English language
by the
> >>Broadcasting Standards Commission.
> >>
> >>FYI, here's the results of a poll they did:
> >>
> >>WORD 2002 1998
> >
> >>Slag 16 18
> >
> >Odd how Pot Noodle now find this a good term for their product. Even
> >odder is the fact that anyone eats the stuff...
>
> Sadly they have now been told to stop using the adverts.
>
Really ? What a shame - I thought they were very clever.

But I have been known to eat a Pot Noodle now and then, so what do I know...
;-)

Rachael


Rachael Nex

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"Emma" <Em...@excalvehs.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> DC <gojphKEE...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Well, they're still using them in the cinema. Saw one last night when
> >I went to see Road to Perdition. Superb film, stupid advert...
>
> IIRC cinema adverts have different rules to tv ones due to age
> restrictions already being in place.
>
Er - yeeeah, theoretically. But with the advent of the new 12a certificate
(any kid under 12 can get in with an adult or alone - depending on the
cinema companies own guidelines about unaccompanied children on the
premises - an advisory certificate like the pg, in other words) I think
there will be a few issues to iron out there. The ads have certificates like
the films, but they are vetted by the British Cinema Advertising Association
(as I recall) - but they are not quite so straight forward as film
certificates.

For example, you can show the current Budweiser ads with u or pg
certificated films that aren't aimed strictly at children because they don't
have any "adult" content as such, they just feature beer. Though u and pg
films that are designed for children (disney films or whatever) are a no-no
for beer ads even if they dont' feature any other "adult" content.
The Pot Noodle Slag ads have (so I've been told) a 12 certificate, which
means you can show them with 12a, 15 or 18 certificated films for sure, or u
or pg films that aren't aimed at kids as long as the board have okayed them
as a film that is aimed at the target audience that your ad is also aimed
at. Like, you can show alcohol ads with Men in Black 2, or Road to Perdition
because the films are aimed at older audiences, despite their certificates
(Men in Black has a 12a I think, which is pretty much the same as a pg these
days.)

The people who make the films up have to decide which ads are suitable for
presentation with which films when there are grey areas, which is why said
techies see the 12a certificate as a right royal pain in the arse. It sort
of leaves it up to the people selling the tickets to tell every damn parent
with a child what the film contains, but they can still get moaned at if the
parent takes the kid into the film but finds it, or the ads and trailers run
with it, objectionable in some way.

There you are - more than you ever needed or wanted to know about
certification issues. ;-)

Rachael

Mike Whooley

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On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:06:39 +0100, "Rachael Nex"
<rat...@badrats.co.uk> wrote:

>I'd be interested to know actually out of that list which words people
>wouldn't consider using and why ? I don't use racist words as insults but
>other than that the rest don't bother me. In fact "slag" is a term of
>affection often in my house - my dog is nicknamed "Slag-Dog" or "Slut-Puppy"
>and my rats are sometimes refered to as a group as "you little slags". My
>best girlfriend and I often affectionately say to each other, "... you
>whorey tart" or "... bitch !" too.
>
>Perhaps I'm just weird.

Hey, you know your friends are comfortable around you, when they can
freely call you every name under the sun!

I'm much prefer that, than for everyone to be so polite!

Mike.

DC

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Of course you do - you're Irish. I do too but then I'm a Lancastrian
married to a Scouser...

David

Mike Whooley

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On Tue, 08 Oct 2002 16:32:33 +0100, DC <gojphKEE...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Ouch. I mean, insults are one thing, but this...

> I do too but then I'm a Lancastrian
>married to a Scouser...

Ah, jaysus. 'Tis no fun when you use up all the best material on
yourself!

Mike.

Ray

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Pete Fenelon <pe...@fenelon.com> wrote in message news:<uq3gr5d...@corp.supernews.com>...


Didn't the Sex Pistols break the boundries on English TV when Steve
Jones (Pistols) guitarist ripped into the drunken TV presenter who was
chatting up Siouxsie. John Lydon chimed in but Steve Jones really
broke the ice calling the TV stooge a dirty old f***er or something.
The clip is in the excellent Julian Temple video The Filth & The Fury.

http://www.flf.com/filthandfury/htmlnoflash/home.html

Fredrik B. Knutsen

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Fair bursting wrote:
>
> On Mon, 07 Oct 2002 17:24:53 -0000, Pete Fenelon <pe...@fenelon.com>
> wrote:
>

> These figures are unrealistically static IMHO, particularly arse
> bugger and balls.
> Fantastic rise for nigger and paki though - Looks a likely podium for
> nigger in 2006, though displacing the "big 3" won't be easy.

I have just foundp tfat sraying Talisker all ovre a keybarddd doesn t
make it work a fhole lot beffer....ROFFLE & ROFFLE again!
Doc

--
Doc Fredrik B.Knutsen

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Opus One

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On Sun, 06 Oct 2002 13:23:38 GMT, Fair bursting
<noshitshe...@fakeid.it> struggled to articulate:

>>> >> The man McLean replaced 17 years ago, Dave Hodge, was
>>> >> fired from HNIC because he got frustrated on the air
>>> >> (due to a strike by technicians, the union blocking
>>> >> the broadcast of certain games) and tossed a *pencil*
>>> >> on camera. He didn't fling it across the room, just
>>> >> a foot or two in the air, and it fell on the floor.
>>> >Well, was it a #2 pencil?
>>> No, the problem was it was up his butt at the time.
>>Ah, so then it *was* a #2 pencil.
>heh heh heh heh heh. You artless bugger you.

Sounds like artless buggery to me...

Mark

"It was the kind of crowd that would have made the Fool Killer
lower his club and shake his head and walk away, frustrated by
the magnitude of the opportunity." - Tom Wolfe,_The_Right_Stuff_

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