Re: Formula 1 Is Difficult?
Simon says
noone schreef:
> Every year sees a new driver of college age being immediately, and I
> mean immediately, successful in Formula 1.
>
> This series simply cannot be that difficult or regarded as a real sport
> when the highest success is immediately obtainable.
>
> Hamilton isn't great, and Button isn't awful. They're just in different
> cars. It appears there's nothing much else at issue in this series.
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Hamilton smokes Button. If Button can't beat Rubens Barichello, how in
the world can he beat Alonso in the same car? So if you think Hamilton
isn't great, what are you saying about Fernando Alonso? You're
implying that Alonso isn't great too, which is complete BS. Button in
the Mclaren wouldn't win any races since Fernando Alonso will own him.
Mark
> Every year sees a new driver of college age being immediately, and I
> mean immediately, successful in Formula 1.
>
> This series simply cannot be that difficult or regarded as a real sport
> when the highest success is immediately obtainable.
>
> Hamilton isn't great, and Button isn't awful. They're just in different
> cars. It appears there's nothing much else at issue in this series.
>
Know nothing about motorsport, do you?
Simon says
> In article <46758970$0$3123$4c368...@roadrunner.com>,
> racing where talent matters.
>
Only failures from the Moto GP end up there, I wouldn't describe them
as talents like say Valentino Rossi. His teammate is a World Superbike
Champion and he's just crap compared to Rossi. And take a look at Troy
Bayliss, he was a failure in the moto gp, returns to World Superbike
and becomes champion. Like I said, no talents are driving in the World
Superbike :)
Watch Stoner and Pedrosa dominate all the older experienced drivers
except Rossi in the Moto GP and how old are those guys? You should
also have seen Rossi when he was a still youngster in his first season
in Moto gp destroying everybody. What about the 21 year old Nadal in
tennis winning the Roland Garros for the 3rd time allready beating the
best tennis player in history Roger Federer again? It happens in all
sports that a few exceptional talents come around at a very early age,
not just in F1.
Bigbird
> In article <46758970$0$3123$4c36...@roadrunner.com>,
> World Superbike is on Speed, right now. Tune in if you want to see
> racing where talent matters.
You'd be a lot happier watching F3 (or Star Mazda) than F1. They are
brimming with what you would call talent. If you weren't such a slow
learner we'd have no more of your clueless drivel.
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Simon says
> In article <1182110134.345579.261...@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Simon says <W...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
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> > On 17 jun, 21:32, noone <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > > In article <46758970$0$3123$4c368...@roadrunner.com>,
>
> > > Mark <m...@eliminatespam.com> wrote:
> > > > noone wrote:
> > > > > Every year sees a new driver of college age being immediately, and I
> > > > > mean immediately, successful in Formula 1.
>
> > > > > This series simply cannot be that difficult or regarded as a real sport
> > > > > when the highest success is immediately obtainable.
>
> > > > > Hamilton isn't great, and Button isn't awful. They're just in different
> > > > > cars. It appears there's nothing much else at issue in this series.
>
> > > > Know nothing about motorsport, do you?
>
> > > World Superbike is on Speed, right now. Tune in if you want to see
> > > racing where talent matters.
>
> > Only failures from the Moto GP end up there,
>
> swamped you.
>
> > I wouldn't describe them
> > as talents like say Valentino Rossi. His teammate is a World Superbike
> > Champion and he's just crap compared to Rossi. And take a look at Troy
> > Bayliss, he was a failure in the moto gp, returns to World Superbike
> > and becomes champion. Like I said, no talents are driving in the World
> > Superbike :)
>
Look up the facts. The real talents are in moto gp.
Fred Decoy
> In article <46758970$0$3123$4c36...@roadrunner.com>,
> Mark <ma...@eliminatespam.com> wrote:
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> racing where talent matters.
>
As Alonso said on Thursday during the interviews and most open wheel auto
racing fans know, decreasing aerodynamic grip (thus increasing down force for
cars behind) and increasing mechanical grip would help a great deal in making
F1 to be closer racing and put more emphasis on driver skill. Motorcycle
racing has close racing because bikes don't rely on down force and rely on
mechanical grip.
Simon says
> In article <1182111949.625153.326...@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Simon says <W...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
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> > On 17 jun, 22:22, noone <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > > In article <1182110134.345579.261...@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> > > Simon says <W...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 17 jun, 21:32, noone <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > > > > In article <46758970$0$3123$4c368...@roadrunner.com>,
>
> > > > > > noone wrote:
> > > > > > > Every year sees a new driver of college age being immediately, and
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > mean immediately, successful in Formula 1.
>
> > > > > > > This series simply cannot be that difficult or regarded as a real
> > > > > > > sport
> > > > > > > when the highest success is immediately obtainable.
>
> > > > > > > Hamilton isn't great, and Button isn't awful. They're just in
> > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > cars. It appears there's nothing much else at issue in this series.
>
> > > > > > Know nothing about motorsport, do you?
>
> > > > > World Superbike is on Speed, right now. Tune in if you want to see
> > > > > racing where talent matters.
>
>
> > > Then watch MotoGP. It's not on, while WSB is. It's seems the point has
> > > swamped you.
>
> > > > I wouldn't describe them
> > > > as talents like say Valentino Rossi. His teammate is a World Superbike
> > > > Champion and he's just crap compared to Rossi. And take a look at Troy
> > > > Bayliss, he was a failure in the moto gp, returns to World Superbike
> > > > and becomes champion. Like I said, no talents are driving in the World
> > > > Superbike :)
>
> > > Are you seriously this dense?
>
> > Look up the facts. The real talents are in moto gp.
>
> Are you seriously this dense?
>
>
I know what you are trying to say. It's pretty well known that the
talent of a rider on a bike has a much greater influence on the
outcome than a driver in a car. It's just that I don't regard those
riders in the World Superbikes as great talents hence no point in
watching it. Get it?
On the other hand, Rossi is really enjoyable to watch. He doesn't have
the best bike out there, this season it's even more rediculous than
normal with his underpowered yamaha, but it's just amazing what he can
do with it since he drives against the best riders in the world on
better bikes than his.
Noose
"noone" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Every year sees a new driver of college age being immediately, and I
> mean immediately, successful in Formula 1.
>
> This series simply cannot be that difficult or regarded as a real sport
> when the highest success is immediately obtainable.
>
> Hamilton isn't great, and Button isn't awful. They're just in different
> cars. It appears there's nothing much else at issue in this series.
>
Exactly. It's the sodding car - most of those drivers given the fastest car
and a bit of luck would win.
Allen
> Only failures from the Moto GP end up there, I wouldn't describe them
> as talents like say Valentino Rossi. His teammate is a World Superbike
> Champion and he's just crap compared to Rossi. And take a look at Troy
> Bayliss, he was a failure in the moto gp, returns to World Superbike
> and becomes champion. Like I said, no talents are driving in the World
> Superbike :)
That's a pretty retarded, schoolboy flamerz post.
And it is factually incorrect: *cough* Troy Bayliss, Valencia 2006,
wildcard entry on works Ducati...
Sod it, off to the bozo bin for you:
<plonk>
DC
>Every year sees a new driver of college age being immediately, and I
>mean immediately, successful in Formula 1.
>
>This series simply cannot be that difficult or regarded as a real sport
>when the highest success is immediately obtainable.
>
>Hamilton isn't great, and Button isn't awful. They're just in different
>cars. It appears there's nothing much else at issue in this series.
Go fuck another cuzzin', Brain. The gene pool's flagging again...
David
Noose
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> "noone" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>> Every year sees a new driver of college age being immediately, and I
>> mean immediately, successful in Formula 1.
>>
>> This series simply cannot be that difficult or regarded as a real sport
>> when the highest success is immediately obtainable.
>>
>> Hamilton isn't great, and Button isn't awful. They're just in different
>> cars. It appears there's nothing much else at issue in this series.
>>
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> Exactly. It's the sodding car - most of those drivers given the fastest
> car and a bit of luck would win.
I would add too that the F1 sim at Mclaren has given LH the edge. They will
all have F1 sims shortly. FA needs to wise up use the thing as much as LH. I
know LH claimed not to have used the sim before USA but he meant 'directly
before' - he had used it to learn the track. The there's the neurosicence
help he's been getting. They guy's been technoed to the front and has the
great luck of a car come good. In last years car, all the wiz bang gizmos
would have counted for little. Button or others given the same would likely
have done as well or even better.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/6764919.stm