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RocketMan

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Apr 21, 2009, 5:37:23 PM4/21/09
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I have owned two Logitech G25 wheels, and both have ended up with the
same problem. After approximately 9 months (very careful) use the
sequential shift starts playing up. When I attempt to change gears (push
lever forward) the unit changes two gears instead of one. This starts
off happening about every 50 gear changes, and slowly gets more frequent.
As you can imagine this gets very frustrating as the car locks up the
rear wheels and tries to spin. BTW I almost exclusively play GTR2 with
my G25, although I'm sure it is not a problem with the software.
Does anyone know of a website explaining (with pictures?) how to fix
this problem? I assume it is a problem with one of the switches in the
gear shifter. The H-pattern gear change still works fine, although I
don't use the H-pattern much (GTL). Sequential gear change enables me to
go down the gears much quicker than the H-pattern or paddles.
I use my wheel/pedals/gears about 40 hours per month, which I don't
think is excessive, and do not wish to have to buy a new G25 unit every
9 months. I am very careful with my G25, and do not let anyone else use
the unit.
When I have returned the unit (under warranty) the retailer has had
the unit for about four weeks, and returned it saying their is nothing
wrong with the unit! The problem is still there, except the shifter is
more 'sloppy' upon return!
Any help or advice would be VERY much appreciated. TIA.

RocketMan.

David Fisher's Left Testicle

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Apr 21, 2009, 5:47:57 PM4/21/09
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"RocketMan" <redroc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Can't help with your specific problem. But the shifter uses axis not
buttons.

But I'm interested in hoe the sequential is faster than the paddles. Surely
they should be the same?

APLer

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Apr 21, 2009, 9:04:52 PM4/21/09
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RocketMan <redroc...@gmail.com> wrote in
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See my earlier post titled "relief from terror". Sounds like it might be
the same problem. If you're handy with a screwdriver and don't break
things when you open them up, it's the best solution. Otherwise get
someone who doesn't.

RocketMan

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Apr 21, 2009, 11:19:14 PM4/21/09
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Thanks for the heads-up.
The sequential shift is faster for me, as there is less travel on the
shifter. As you have to wait for the paddle or shift lever to return to
it's starting position before being able to select the next gear, the
almost nil travel of the shift lever is quicker. The paddles (on my G25s
anyway) have quite a bit of travel before they even change gear.
I hope I'm not missing anything here. :)

RocketMan.

RocketMan

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Apr 21, 2009, 11:25:18 PM4/21/09
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Thanks for the advice, APLer.
I have some CRC 2-26. That would be good to clean the contacts with, aye?

RocketMan.

David Fisher's Left Testicle

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Apr 22, 2009, 3:13:16 AM4/22/09
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"RocketMan" <redroc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the heads-up.
> The sequential shift is faster for me, as there is less travel on the
> shifter. As you have to wait for the paddle or shift lever to return to
> it's starting position before being able to select the next gear, the
> almost nil travel of the shift lever is quicker. The paddles (on my G25s
> anyway) have quite a bit of travel before they even change gear.
> I hope I'm not missing anything here. :)

Interesting, as my paddles have way less travel then the shifter lever. The
paddles have about an 8th of an inch and the shifter an inch on my wheel.

hoover

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Apr 22, 2009, 5:28:18 AM4/22/09
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Hello Rocketman,

in rF there is a setting in the PLR file that might help you given that gtr2 and rF stem use the gMotor2 engine:

Repeat Shifts="0" // 0 = no repeat shift detection, 1 = detect and eliminate accidental repeat shifts within 100ms, 2 = 150ms, 3 = 200ms, 4 = 250ms, 5 = prevent shifting again before previous shift is completed

This might help with preventing future double downshifts.

All the best & HTH,

Uwe


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RocketMan

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Apr 22, 2009, 4:36:29 PM4/22/09
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Thanks very much, Uwe!
I'll definitely have to try that when I finish work!!

RocketMan.

APLer

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Apr 22, 2009, 6:51:52 PM4/22/09
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RocketMan <redroc...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Thanks for the advice, APLer.
> I have some CRC 2-26. That would be good to clean the contacts with,
> aye?
>

No idea *what* that is. Sounds like a TV regulation to me (that part of
what in the US is the FCC is called the CRTC up here). You don't have any
WD 40??? How strange.


Movnmik

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Apr 23, 2009, 10:44:14 AM4/23/09
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I was having the dreaded reverse problem on the G25 so I wend on Ebay
to purchase an extra shifter and found this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-5-Logitech-G25-Replacement-Shifter-Modules_W0QQitemZ260365565348QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games_Accessories?hash=item260365565348&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72:1205|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50

I ended up buying a lot of 5 new shifters for $99 free shipping. I
purchased the 5 so I can create a couple of cockpits one for me and
the other for my son. and sell 1 or 2 of the remaining. I haven't
received them yet but will follow up on this post to let everyone know
how they worked.

So rocketman the way you go through shifters buying a lot of 5 may be
a solution. I think it would be very difficult to find the actual
switches to replace the defective ones although its probably not
impossible.

Just a suggestion.

Mike

Jan Verschueren

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Apr 23, 2009, 1:32:53 PM4/23/09
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"RocketMan" wrote...

> Thanks for the advice, APLer.
> I have some CRC 2-26. That would be good to clean the contacts with,
> aye?

Should do the trick...


RocketMan

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Apr 24, 2009, 2:34:53 PM4/24/09
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Definitely worth looking at...although it only has delivery to the
US. I'm in New Zealand. :(
Maybe it's time to speak nicely to a friend in the States! :)
Thanks very much for the heads-up, Movnmik.

RocketMan.

PlowBoy

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Apr 27, 2009, 9:28:24 PM4/27/09
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Hey Rocket,

I'm interested in 1 of the 5 in the batch, as a spare for myself. So I
might just buy them. and would be more willing to "risk" LOL, sending to
you in nz, if you have PayPal. & that is if you will buy the 4 of 5 of them?
AND shipping to NZ of course. and get me some instructions on how to get
them to you. or if your friend and you could spare one, same deal, Ill pay
for 1 of the 5 and the shipping from him to me.
seems to be $20 us dollars each.

sting32 of the mail of Google, if you think this might work?

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Jussi Koukku

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Apr 28, 2009, 2:27:57 AM4/28/09
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RocketMan wrote:
> When I have returned the unit (under warranty) the retailer has had
> the unit for about four weeks, and returned it saying their is nothing
> wrong with the unit! The problem is still there, except the shifter is
> more 'sloppy' upon return!

If the retailer is reluctant to replace a clearly faulty unit under
warranty, you can contact Logitech directly either by phone or through
their website. They can send you new wheel. I got a replacement
delivered to my door in about a week.

- jussi -

Movnmik

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Apr 28, 2009, 10:46:48 AM4/28/09
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I just received the shifters today. There is very minor cosmetic
issues with them, some small nicks, scratches and the like but still
worth the $20/each. Since I received them at work I am unable to test
them. Once I do, I will let everyone know the results.

I will probably be reselling 2 or 3 of the shifters that I just
received and the shifter I currently use (this one has a reverse issue
- doesn't go into reverse).

On Apr 23, 10:44 am, Movnmik <Movn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was having the dreaded reverse problem on the G25 so I wend on Ebay
> to purchase an extra shifter and found this.
>

> http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-5-Logitech-G25-Replacement-Shifter-Modules...66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50

RocketMan

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Apr 28, 2009, 2:31:51 PM4/28/09
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I didn't explain myself properly...
When I returned the unit to the retailer complaining about the gear
shift, the reason it took four weeks was that they had to send the whole
unit (wheel, pedals, shifter) back to Logitech. Logitech were the people
that told me that there was nothing wrong with the unit!! :(

RocketMan.

RocketMan

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Apr 28, 2009, 3:14:09 PM4/28/09
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Firstly, thanks for all the advice, guys! Much appreciated.
Currently I am going with Uwe's idea, but will definitely look at
opening up the unit and investigating fixing the problem more
permanently. Still thinking about purchasing the five shifters as well...
When I looked at my profile's PLR file there was no reference to
'Repeat Shifts', so I just added it after the other gear references.
Repeat Shifts="5" works just fine! Although I can still 'feel' the gear
shift occasionally miss the next gear, so a more permanent solution will
possibly be required.

RocketMan.

Boofhead

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Apr 29, 2009, 1:12:20 AM4/29/09
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"RocketMan" <redroc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> When I looked at my profile's PLR file there was no reference to 'Repeat
> Shifts', so I just added it after the other gear references. Repeat
> Shifts="5" works just fine! Although I can still 'feel' the gear shift
> occasionally miss the next gear, so a more permanent solution will
> possibly be required.

I also added the repeat shifts line to my player file in GTR2 but when I
checked later it was gone and I still had the same problem. I tried several
times but it always disappeared.

Has it stayed in your player file?

Tony


Movnmik

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May 7, 2009, 12:54:25 PM5/7/09
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I was able to test 3 of the 5 shifters and they work with no problems
at all. I'm feeling the other shifters will be fine as well. I hope
to test them in the next day or so.
With that being said, I would recommend buying them if you know others
that would benefit as well.

Once I do test the remaining two and confirm that they work. I will
be selling three shifters (two from the five I just purchased and my
original shifter that has the reverse problem)

I will be selling the new shifters for $20/each + actual shipping and
handling. If I need to get a box I may add $1. I'm not looking to
make any money from this just don't want to lose any money.

The old shifter I will be selling for $12 + actual shipping and
handling (Since the reverse doesn't work).

Just let me know if anyone is interested.

Thanks

Mike

On Apr 29, 1:12 am, "Boofhead" <no-...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> "RocketMan" <redrocket...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Movnmik

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May 7, 2009, 12:59:22 PM5/7/09
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I want to clarify my last post.
I recommend buying the lot of 5 off of Ebay if you know that you can
distribute them (I am not related to the Ebay seller in any way, shape
or form).

If you just need one or two then you might consider buying from me.
Rocketman, since you originated the post I will give you first dibs if
you need the one's i'm selling. Just let me know.

RocketMan

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May 11, 2009, 3:04:13 PM5/11/09
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Thanks very much for the offer, Movnmik. Sorry about the delay in
replying.
I have had no probs since changing my PLR file - in GTR2, at least
anyway.
The shifters seem such a bargain, that I think I will buy 5 from Ebay
as well, just as a backup. With five new shifters I will have 4 more
years of G25 use if the same problem reoccurs.
Thanks very much for your offer and advice.

RocketMan.

Movnmik

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May 12, 2009, 9:56:59 AM5/12/09
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RocketMan,

Sounds like a plan. I agree, 5 shifters for $100 is a bargain hence
the purchase - even if I can't sell them I always have spares. Its
nice to now have a shifter that the reverse works.

RocketMan

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May 12, 2009, 7:52:02 PM5/12/09
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Sorry, I can't help myself...
Reverse??! Aren't you supposed to be going forward? :D
You should only need reverse if you crash! :D

RocketMan

Just a joke, of course. :)

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