GPL - Monza : Beating the 1:30's (About bloody time too)
Colin McSkimming
flatmates have told me to stop shouting & celebrating - had to tell someone.
I read a post not too long ago about a GPL'er finally going under the 1:30
barrier. Thought I could never get there but tonight after warming up on
Kyalami I thought I'd try out a saved race from pole. All went pretty well,
dropped to 2nd and spent the whole race in consistent 1:30's. Felt a bit
emtpy only finishing second, but as the race was over I had to do the whole
qualifying thing again. So off I went and after bumbling around in the
1:31's I did a lap I reckoned was pretty much the same only to find I pulled
out a 1:29:65!!! Bloody marvellous (swiftly fell off the track after getting
the pit board due to celebratory leaping round my bedroom). The small things
always make us happy don't they.
I think it is all down to trail-braking into Lesmos 1 & 2. I always seem to
make time on the AI cars there. Sure enough, after looking at the replays it
is the only real difference from my previous PB of 1:30:23. Curve Grande may
have made a bit of a difference to, I can't see how so much time can be
gained in two corners. Not a hint of rail riding either.
Still think I can brake later into the parabolica though ;-)
Bring on the 'Ring! That's next on the list for sure! (is it bollocks)
c
working on my exit speeds... I always braked really late and was quite proud
of myself, but i wasn' tgetting the best shot out of the corners... on the
long straights of monza a lot of time can be made up by getting on the gas a
little earlier/straighter and leaving the corner at a higher speed. (Just
what I found to work for me anyways.. I'm no race expert)
speedracer
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closer all the time. Usually i do better in races cause I seem to have
incentive to go faster. Well I'm off to Monza again with a 1:30.71 PB...
Chris
Marc Collins
been able to match or beat it since, but I haven't really been trying too
hard, either. I usually drive the Cooper, so just getting consistent 1:31's
would be nice!!
Congratulations,
Marc.
Johan Foederer
below the 1:30 at Monza. So I took my Ferrari out for some training
sesions and after a few days practicing and tuning... WHAM! the 1:29:97
popped up. That same day I got below 1:30 at Zandvoort too. My prev. PB
was 1:31.09 and after only a few laps it dropped to 1:28:87. Let's just
say I had a good day :-)
// Johan
Joachim Blum
Same for me! I struggled around in the low 29's, unable to break into
the 28's. I couldn't break any later at any corner without f***ing up
the lap so I fired up SpyGirl to see where I lost the time. And it were
the exits! Because of my _nearly_ too late breaking I wasn't able to
drive a smooth line round the corner. I always hit the apex too late and
couldn't step on the gas for I was fighting the car to come around. So I
tried to break earlier, drive a clean line and tap on the gas as early
as possible. Within 5 laps I was in the 28's, with a PB of 1:28.30 up to
now.
Conclusion: Trailbreaking is important, but don't overcook it!
Regards
Crash
--
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P.S.: Sorry for my bad English!
c schrieb:
Richard G Clegg
: That post last week really did it. When I read it I also wanted to get
: below the 1:30 at Monza. So I took my Ferrari out for some training
: sesions and after a few days practicing and tuning... WHAM! the 1:29:97
: popped up. That same day I got below 1:30 at Zandvoort too. My prev. PB
: was 1:31.09 and after only a few laps it dropped to 1:28:87. Let's just
: say I had a good day :-)
Heh... I got my first sub 1:30 at Monza in the Ferrari recently. I
was soooo pleased. (Tho' I'm a bit worried because it was 1.1 online
and I think there are timing issues there - but I have got nearly the
same times offline racing). I can now do sub 1:30 at Monza in the Lotus
with not much bother. I just find it hard to believe that there's
another 2-3 seconds to be made up in there somewhere.
I decided that a more fun way to spend my time is knocking seconds off
my times at the other courses (which are mostly dreadful). Had some
major victories getting down to 1:35 at Monaco and 1:25 at Kyalami -
which are (admittedly) hugely off the pace for the rest of you, but I'm
bloody pleased. My real bogey track is the Ring though. My time seems
to have stabalised at 10:25... dreadful. Admittedly that included 4-5
spins - usually at the same place.
The one thing I can't get is the consistency. I'm having a terrible
time with that. I can do, 4-5 laps at most circuits between spins.
(And 4-5 trees between spins). How do I increase my MTBF here? What's
the secret to consistency in GPL? Anybody got any tips for this?
Also, I find myself very distracted by watching the needle go to
red-line. Is everyone else doing this or are the rest of you judging
the engine revs by sound? How much difference to a lap time does it
make getting the engine right to red-line and how much difference does
gearing make full-stop.
Ho hum... After nigh on a year playing it's still a great game.
--
Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving
Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group
Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York
www: http://manor.york.ac.uk/top.html
Colin McSkimming
been described in overcooking the trail-braking into corners and just
slipping slightly. I'll need a bit of time to get the exit's right though.
The time is definitely there, its just a matter of time I suppose. Can't
change your style overnight unfortunately.
I thought that a low 1:28 was possible but man that's a challenge. What fuel
loads are you running, number of laps until you hit the 28's, which car? All
the work on consistency in the Lotus has paid off now for me as I have
gotten within 1 tenth of my new PB 3 times in one session.
What is the current record for Monza? I dare say Woeger has it (how does he
do it? Especially Zandy, can't get below 1:30) Actually a link to a site
with all the GPL records would be good.
After the qualifying session that I got the 1:29.65 I walked the race from
1st to finish. 1st lap was a 1:35 and all the rest were 1:30's. Johan is
right about having good days & bad days. Yesterday's race was the best I've
managed but today I can't even get past the first corner without taking out
half the field!
Olav K. Malmin
> Johan Foederer <Johan.F...@philips.com> wrote:
> : That post last week really did it. When I read it I also wanted to get
> : below the 1:30 at Monza. So I took my Ferrari out for some training
> : sesions and after a few days practicing and tuning... WHAM! the 1:29:97
> : popped up. That same day I got below 1:30 at Zandvoort too. My prev. PB
> : was 1:31.09 and after only a few laps it dropped to 1:28:87. Let's just
> : say I had a good day :-)
>
> Heh... I got my first sub 1:30 at Monza in the Ferrari recently. I
> was soooo pleased. (Tho' I'm a bit worried because it was 1.1 online
> and I think there are timing issues there - but I have got nearly the
> same times offline racing). I can now do sub 1:30 at Monza in the Lotus
> with not much bother. I just find it hard to believe that there's
> another 2-3 seconds to be made up in there somewhere.
>
> I decided that a more fun way to spend my time is knocking seconds off
> my times at the other courses (which are mostly dreadful). Had some
> major victories getting down to 1:35 at Monaco and 1:25 at Kyalami -
> which are (admittedly) hugely off the pace for the rest of you, but I'm
> bloody pleased. My real bogey track is the Ring though. My time seems
> to have stabalised at 10:25... dreadful. Admittedly that included 4-5
> spins - usually at the same place.
Agree, to hotlap Monza is very little rewarding compared to practice the other
tracks. Specially the Ring. I had a real thrill when i was able to do two laps
in a row without spinning. My pb is still 9.10 ,so there is a long way to go
though.
>
> The one thing I can't get is the consistency. I'm having a terrible
> time with that. I can do, 4-5 laps at most circuits between spins.
> (And 4-5 trees between spins). How do I increase my MTBF here? What's
> the secret to consistency in GPL? Anybody got any tips for this?
Don't focus on the laptimes, just drive without trying to brake juuuust a
little later. In online races I find very much pleasure in passing other
people who spun out. The problem is that many people i pass after they
spun seems to disconnect, so I always finish last anyway :)
> Also, I find myself very distracted by watching the needle go to
> red-line. Is everyone else doing this or are the rest of you judging
> the engine revs by sound? How much difference to a lap time does it
> make getting the engine right to red-line and how much difference does
> gearing make full-stop.
>
> Ho hum... After nigh on a year playing it's still a great game.
Definately
--
Olav K. Malmin
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Colin McSkimming
a pretty short circuit and any lap by lap improvements you can think of are
still in your mind for changing your drive next time round. It's also not
too technical other than braking into the first real big turn at the end of
the the outward straight (can't remember the name right now).
At Kyalami you may find it handy to go through most corners a gear higher
than normal to keep up speed through the corners, it also means that it is
far less likely that you'll spin it from high revs. I changed to using 3rd
in turn 1, 2, 3, 4 ; 2nd in turn 5 ; 3rd for the chicane & turn 7 and then
flat through the kink & over the line. That took my times down to 1:23.15
from the 1:25's I was stuck in for ages.
Hope it helps.
Graeme Nash
>Conclusion: Trailbreaking is important, but don't overcook it!
Definitely. You can gain so much time sometimes with a slow in - fast
out style, especially at Monza. The long straights after nearly every
time mean that a good exit will easily outdo any gain you make from
braking late.
--
Cheers!
Graeme Nash
(About to fire up GPL 1.0 to see if I can hit the magic 1m26 mark...)
pjg...@cix.compulink.co.uk
coli...@hotmail.com (Colin McSkimming) wrote:
He he, well done! T'was me who posted the earlier "I just got sub 1:30
@ Monza" thread. Great feeling to finally break that barrier innit!
8-)
One day I'll even manage to try Mexico......Naaah, maybe not!!!
8-)
*Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html
don hodgdon
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<snipped some good stuff about trail braking>
>After the qualifying session that I got the 1:29.65 I walked the race from
>1st to finish. 1st lap was a 1:35 and all the rest were 1:30's. Johan is
>right about having good days & bad days. Yesterday's race was the best I've
>managed but today I can't even get past the first corner without taking out
>half the field!
ROFL!!! I had the same experience about two weeks ago, finally got into the
1:29's at Monza and won 3 novice races in succession, all from the front
row. I thought I was the King of Monza until I got home the next day and
couldn't get through the Curva Grande without slipping into the guardrail!
Now close your eyes and repeat after me...slow in, fast out...slow in, fast
out....oooooohhhhhmmmmm
don
[|]-(_)-[|]
Mark D
Olav.K...@civil.sintef.nospam (Olav K. Malmin) wrote:
> The problem is that many people i pass after they
> spun seems to disconnect, so I always finish last anyway :)
Don't sell yourself short, Olav. The person who comes last is the person who
disconnects first - at least you're doing a full race distance.
Cheers,
Mark
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don hodgdon wrote:
>
> Colin McSkimming wrote in message
> <80rkrp$c9$1...@nclient13-gui.server.virgin.net>...
>
> <snipped some good stuff about trail braking>
>
> >After the qualifying session that I got the 1:29.65 I walked the race from
> >1st to finish. 1st lap was a 1:35 and all the rest were 1:30's. Johan is
> >right about having good days & bad days. Yesterday's race was the best I've
> >managed but today I can't even get past the first corner without taking out
> >half the field!
>
> ROFL!!! I had the same experience about two weeks ago, finally got into the
> 1:29's at Monza and won 3 novice races in succession, all from the front
> row. I thought I was the King of Monza until I got home the next day and
> couldn't get through the Curva Grande without slipping into the guardrail!
>
Hey ! All these posts give me a boost : " I CAN DO IT !".
So last night i've downloaded Nunnini setup guide, I read it 3 times.
First to translate it :o) Second to understand it, And Third to sum up it.
So i could cook my own cherished setup.
And i could done it! PB : 1m28s68 , with missing apex at lesmo1 and bad
brake at parabolica. So now i'm working on better setup, and the next
frontier is sub 1m28 !
Thank you mister Nunnini !
> Now close your eyes and repeat after me...slow in, fast out...slow in, fast
> out....oooooohhhhhmmmmm
well, it's very true, but what i think when i'm driving at limit is mostly :
" i'm gonna crash !, i'm gonna crash !"
" oh my god, all tires are locked, i'm gonna eat sand"
"ho jezz, i'm never gonna reach that apex!"
in french of course :o)
well, honneslty it's when i'm beyond the limits of my skill and/or the setups
:o)
>
> don
>
> [|]-(_)-[|]
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Grant Reeve
Colin McSkimming wrote:
>
> What is the current record for Monza? I dare say Woeger has it (how does he
> do it? Especially Zandy, can't get below 1:30) Actually a link to a site
> with all the GPL records would be good.
>
Check out http://get.to/gpl and prepare to weep :)
The quickest Monza time there is a 1:26.93
Peter Ives
<rg...@york.ac.uk> writes
<snip>
> I decided that a more fun way to spend my time is knocking seconds off
>my times at the other courses (which are mostly dreadful). Had some
>major victories getting down to 1:35 at Monaco and 1:25 at Kyalami -
>which are (admittedly) hugely off the pace for the rest of you, but I'm
>bloody pleased. My real bogey track is the Ring though. My time seems
>to have stabalised at 10:25... dreadful. Admittedly that included 4-5
>spins - usually at the same place.
>
>time with that. I can do, 4-5 laps at most circuits between spins.
>(And 4-5 trees between spins). How do I increase my MTBF here? What's
>the secret to consistency in GPL? Anybody got any tips for this?
>
under 9 minutes just by being smooth and not attacking every corner.
I've found that some areas of the circuit are more liable to get you
than others, so I'm normally just that little bit more careful at those
points. In particular, braking for corners when running down a hill
it's very easy for the back end to want to come round if I brake at my
normal level so I tend to brake a little earlier and smoother than
normal.
One final section that took me ages to get right was the part quite
early on, somewhere between Flugplatz and Schwedenkrauz I think, where
the car gets airborne. I finally learnt that the best way to take this
without veering off on landing was to get the car lined up whilst easing
off slightly and then hitting the accelerator just before cresting the
rise. This seemed to allow the car to land much more stably than any
other method that I tried.
> Also, I find myself very distracted by watching the needle go to
>red-line. Is everyone else doing this or are the rest of you judging
>the engine revs by sound? How much difference to a lap time does it
>make getting the engine right to red-line and how much difference does
>gearing make full-stop.
>
Don't worry about redlining it unless you are on a straight, fast
section. Just concentrate on making sure that you are in the right gear
at the right time. If you are not in the correct gear then you will be
fooled as to how fast the car is really going which could prove
disastrous.
> Ho hum... After nigh on a year playing it's still a great game.
>
--
Peter Ives
(AKA Ivington)
Andre Warringa
Andre
EldredP
> Heh... I got my first sub 1:30 at Monza in the Ferrari recently. I
>was soooo pleased. (Tho' I'm a bit worried because it was 1.1 online
>and I think there are timing issues there - but I have got nearly the
>same times offline racing). I can now do sub 1:30 at Monza in the Lotus
>with not much bother. I just find it hard to believe that there's
>another 2-3 seconds to be made up in there somewhere.
I'm stuck at mid-1:30's in the Ferarri...
>
> I decided that a more fun way to spend my time is knocking seconds off
>my times at the other courses (which are mostly dreadful). Had some
>major victories getting down to 1:35 at Monaco and 1:25 at Kyalami -
>which are (admittedly) hugely off the pace for the rest of you, but I'm
>bloody pleased. My real bogey track is the Ring though. My time seems
>to have stabalised at 10:25... dreadful. Admittedly that included 4-5
>spins - usually at the same place.
1:41 at Monaco, 1:25.79 at Kyalami. Where can I find 6 SECONDS at Monaco?
>
> Also, I find myself very distracted by watching the needle go to
>red-line. Is everyone else doing this or are the rest of you judging
>the engine revs by sound? How much difference to a lap time does it
>make getting the engine right to red-line and how much difference does
>gearing make full-stop.
Dumb question - where IS the redline in the Ferarri (or any others for that
matter)? I *know* the Ferarri isn't mentioned in the manual, but are the
others?
Eldred
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EldredP
<coli...@hotmail.com> writes:
>At Kyalami you may find it handy to go through most corners a gear higher
>than normal to keep up speed through the corners, it also means that it is
>far less likely that you'll spin it from high revs. I changed to using 3rd
>in turn 1, 2, 3, 4 ; 2nd in turn 5 ; 3rd for the chicane & turn 7 and then
>flat through the kink & over the line. That took my times down to 1:23.15
>from the 1:25's I was stuck in for ages.
>
>Hope it helps.
>
Which car? Although in thinking about, I use the same gears in the Eagle or
Ferarri.
2nd in 1,2; 3rd in 3; 2nd in 4 ; 1st in 5 ; 2nd in esses & 7, then flat out.
It seems I have to slow down too much to keep it in the higher gears,
especially turn 5.
WTF am I doing wrong?
EldredP
>In article <u7ljiw...@civil.sintef.nospam>,
> Olav.K...@civil.sintef.nospam (Olav K. Malmin) wrote:
>> The problem is that many people i pass after they
>> spun seems to disconnect, so I always finish last anyway :)
>
>Don't sell yourself short, Olav. The person who comes last is the person who
>disconnects first - at least you're doing a full race distance.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Mark
>Reading, UK
>
It's still an empty feeling sometimes. I know how he feels(being last of the
cars running).
EldredP
<grant...@die.evil.spammers.papy.com> writes:
>Colin McSkimming wrote:
>>
>> What is the current record for Monza? I dare say Woeger has it (how does he
>> do it? Especially Zandy, can't get below 1:30) Actually a link to a site
>> with all the GPL records would be good.
>>
>Check out http://get.to/gpl and prepare to weep :)
>The quickest Monza time there is a 1:26.93
>
No problem. I'm only about FIVE seconds off...<g>
Richard G Clegg
: 1:41 at Monaco, 1:25.79 at Kyalami. Where can I find 6 SECONDS at Monaco?
(Grin) Monaco's such a pain. I'm sure that I could get below 1:30
if I just got a clean lap in occasionally. The problem is that to get
to that speed I have to put my foot down so hard I average 2 spins a
lap. The chicane after the tunnel is a nightmare.
: Dumb question - where IS the redline in the Ferarri (or any others for that
: matter)? I *know* the Ferarri isn't mentioned in the manual, but are the
: others?
The redline is... um... well where the red-line is. Watch your rev
meter - it has a white line (current revs) and a red line (most revs
you've ever done). The red line tends to be at the engine max revs
since eventually you don't quite lifte enough between changing gears
and your engine goes to max revs sending the tell tale to its max
position.
Jan Hovius
> EldredP <eld...@aol.comSPAM-OFF> wrote:
> : 1:41 at Monaco, 1:25.79 at Kyalami. Where can I find 6 SECONDS at Monaco?
>
> (Grin) Monaco's such a pain. I'm sure that I could get below 1:30
> if I just got a clean lap in occasionally. The problem is that to get
> to that speed I have to put my foot down so hard I average 2 spins a
> lap. The chicane after the tunnel is a nightmare.
>
> : Dumb question - where IS the redline in the Ferarri (or any others for that
> : matter)? I *know* the Ferarri isn't mentioned in the manual, but are the
> : others?
>
> The redline is... um... well where the red-line is. Watch your rev
> meter - it has a white line (current revs) and a red line (most revs
> you've ever done). The red line tends to be at the engine max revs
> since eventually you don't quite lifte enough between changing gears
> and your engine goes to max revs sending the tell tale to its max
> position.
>
I don't think this is the "red line". It's the red (or "dangerous") area where
you should start to become nervous when staying there too long. Do download the
cockpits (The US-pits and the Fast lane have links to the proper site) with
red-line indication. They are great.
Jan.
Peter Ives
<eld...@aol.comSPAM-OFF> writes
>In article <80rlj2$ij$1...@nclient13-gui.server.virgin.net>, "Colin McSkimming"
><coli...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>>At Kyalami you may find it handy to go through most corners a gear higher
>>than normal to keep up speed through the corners, it also means that it is
>>far less likely that you'll spin it from high revs. I changed to using 3rd
>>in turn 1, 2, 3, 4 ; 2nd in turn 5 ; 3rd for the chicane & turn 7 and then
>>flat through the kink & over the line. That took my times down to 1:23.15
>>from the 1:25's I was stuck in for ages.
>>
>>Hope it helps.
>>
>
>Which car? Although in thinking about, I use the same gears in the Eagle or
>Ferarri.
>2nd in 1,2; 3rd in 3; 2nd in 4 ; 1st in 5 ; 2nd in esses & 7, then flat out.
>It seems I have to slow down too much to keep it in the higher gears,
>especially turn 5.
>WTF am I doing wrong?
>Eldred
You're not Eldred. Well, not gears wise anyway. :-) I use exactly the
same gearing as you in all corners in the Lotus and have managed a
1:20.3x
EldredP
writes:
>: 1:41 at Monaco, 1:25.79 at Kyalami. Where can I find 6 SECONDS at Monaco?
>
> (Grin) Monaco's such a pain. I'm sure that I could get below 1:30
>if I just got a clean lap in occasionally. The problem is that to get
>to that speed I have to put my foot down so hard I average 2 spins a
>lap. The chicane after the tunnel is a nightmare.
That track (and Zandvoort) have me too scared to apply full throttle except for
on the LONGEST straights...
>
>: Dumb question - where IS the redline in the Ferarri (or any others for that
>: matter)? I *know* the Ferarri isn't mentioned in the manual, but are the
>: others?
>
> The redline is... um... well where the red-line is. Watch your rev
>meter - it has a white line (current revs) and a red line (most revs
>you've ever done). The red line tends to be at the engine max revs
>since eventually you don't quite lifte enough between changing gears
>and your engine goes to max revs sending the tell tale to its max
>position.
>
Ah, I see. I was trying to avoid over-revving the engine in the FIRST place,
and maybe find the 'sweet spot' to shift. But, it's been a while since I've
blown an engine in a race, so the occasional slip doesn't seem to hurt much.
EldredP
writes:
>>Dumb question - where IS the redline in the Ferarri (or any others for that
>>matter)? I *know* the Ferarri isn't mentioned in the manual, but are the
>>others?
>
>I don't drive the Ferarri but I believe it's at 10,000 RPM which is at
>the 12:00 o'clock position.
>
>For some excellent 16 bit dashboards & cockpits for GPL, go to Andrew
>Olley's Cockpit Shop at http://www.olley37.freeserve.co.uk/
>
>He produces tachometers with or without redline indicators.
>
Thanks.
EldredP
<pe...@pgives.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
>>>At Kyalami you may find it handy to go through most corners a gear higher
>>>than normal to keep up speed through the corners, it also means that it is
>>>far less likely that you'll spin it from high revs. I changed to using 3rd
>>>in turn 1, 2, 3, 4 ; 2nd in turn 5 ; 3rd for the chicane & turn 7 and then
>>>flat through the kink & over the line. That took my times down to 1:23.15
>>>from the 1:25's I was stuck in for ages.
>>>
>>>Hope it helps.
>>>
>>
>>Which car? Although in thinking about, I use the same gears in the Eagle or
>>Ferarri.
>>2nd in 1,2; 3rd in 3; 2nd in 4 ; 1st in 5 ; 2nd in esses & 7, then flat out.
>
>>It seems I have to slow down too much to keep it in the higher gears,
>>especially turn 5.
>>WTF am I doing wrong?
>>Eldred
>
>You're not Eldred. Well, not gears wise anyway. :-) I use exactly the
>same gearing as you in all corners in the Lotus and have managed a
>1:20.3x
>--
>Peter Ives
>(AKA Ivington)
What?!? Son of a...
Rats, back to the track. I gotta find another 5 seconds...<g>
Eldred
Uwe Schuerkamp
>In article <817d69$lam$2...@pump1.york.ac.uk>, Richard G Clegg <rg...@york.ac.uk>
>writes:
>
>>: 1:41 at Monaco, 1:25.79 at Kyalami. Where can I find 6 SECONDS at Monaco?
>>
>> (Grin) Monaco's such a pain. I'm sure that I could get below 1:30
>>if I just got a clean lap in occasionally. The problem is that to get
>>to that speed I have to put my foot down so hard I average 2 spins a
>>lap. The chicane after the tunnel is a nightmare.
>
>That track (and Zandvoort) have me too scared to apply full throttle except for
>on the LONGEST straights...
Too bad the chicane is essential ;-) What helped me crack
the 1:30 in Monaco (in the Brabham) is looking further ahead
down the harbour after the chicane. Might be psychology, but
it really helped me pointing the car the right way and then
nailing the pedal down to go through it at full power.
Hope this helps,
Uwe
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Peter Ives
<eld...@aol.comSPAM-OFF> writes
>In article <eZ7vRAAb...@pgives.freeserve.co.uk>, Peter Ives
><pe...@pgives.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
>
>>
>>You're not Eldred. Well, not gears wise anyway. :-) I use exactly the
>>same gearing as you in all corners in the Lotus and have managed a
>>1:20.3x
>>--
>>Peter Ives
>>(AKA Ivington)
>
>What?!? Son of a...
>Rats, back to the track. I gotta find another 5 seconds...<g>
>
Never mind about finding 5 seconds at Kayalami. Now get back to
improving your times on Monza and I don't want to hear another
word...<g>
EldredP
<pe...@pgives.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
>In article <19991128115517...@ngol02.aol.com>, EldredP
><eld...@aol.comSPAM-OFF> writes
>>In article <eZ7vRAAb...@pgives.freeserve.co.uk>, Peter Ives
>><pe...@pgives.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
>>
><snip>
>>>
>>>You're not Eldred. Well, not gears wise anyway. :-) I use exactly the
>>>same gearing as you in all corners in the Lotus and have managed a
>>>1:20.3x
>>>--
>>>Peter Ives
>>>(AKA Ivington)
>>
>>What?!? Son of a...
>>Rats, back to the track. I gotta find another 5 seconds...<g>
>>
>
>Never mind about finding 5 seconds at Kayalami. Now get back to
>improving your times on Monza and I don't want to hear another
>word...<g>
<sigh>...ok.....
Joel Willstein
Peter Ives <pe...@pgives.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:2p42CKA1...@pgives.freeserve.co.uk...
> In article <19991128115517...@ngol02.aol.com>, EldredP
> <eld...@aol.comSPAM-OFF> writes
> >In article <eZ7vRAAb...@pgives.freeserve.co.uk>, Peter Ives
> ><pe...@pgives.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
> >What?!? Son of a...
> >Rats, back to the track. I gotta find another 5 seconds...<g>
> >
>
> Never mind about finding 5 seconds at Kayalami. Now get back to
> improving your times on Monza and I don't want to hear another
> word...<g>
> --
> Peter Ives
> (AKA Ivington)
I use to hate driving at Kyalami in my Eagle. I just couldn't get
comfortable,and as a result I was real slow. Then 3 weeks ago I went back to
the Brabham for both F1 and F2. Within 15 min I turned a PB at Kyalami of
1:22.9 and 1:26.57 in the F2. The lap in the F2 Brabham was a lot scarier
than the F1 lap !!
It's still a struggle to get under 1:30 at Monza,but I did it once with
a 1:29.98 last week. Most of my qualifying laps are just in the 30s with the
Toad. But going through the lesmos with it is more fun than any other car in
GPL.
Joel Willstein
jaw...@sprynet.com
Joel Willstein