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John Miller -- sysadmin

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Jul 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/11/95
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Joey Leslie (jle...@tcd.net) wrote:
: My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?

When the muffler bearings go, it's best to replace the entire muffler.
Putting new bearings in an existing muffler is not cost-effective, and
you still have an old muffler that may let go at any moment.

But if you insist, go to Midas. Tell 'em I sent you, and you'll get
a special rate <wink wink, nudge nudge>.
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John Miller, N4VU Linux! Fayetteville
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Joey Leslie

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My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?

Joey
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Robert King

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Jul 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/11/95
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In article D...@n4vu.Atl.GA.US, j...@n4vu.Atl.GA.US (John Miller -- sysadmin) writes:
>Joey Leslie (jle...@tcd.net) wrote:
>: My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?
>
>When the muffler bearings go, it's best to replace the entire muffler.
>Putting new bearings in an existing muffler is not cost-effective, and
>you still have an old muffler that may let go at any moment.

If its one thing I HATE, its someone knowingly spreading bad information on the web!

You certainly CAN replace muffler bearings (any good machine shop
can press them on for you.) To do it RIGHT however, you need to have
the muffler bores measured with a micrometer to see if the walls are
too thin (and in danger of burning or rusting through.) If they are,
the machine shop can press in muffler liners and viola! Good as new!.
(Make sure they don't use cast iorn liners though - they crack.

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Robert King

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Jul 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/11/95
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In article g...@kocrsv08.delcoelect.com, jjw...@mail.delcoelect.com (Joseph J Wiles) writes:
>
> I agree with replacing the liners, but you it is important to note that if you
>have dual exhaust it will be necessary to replace both liners. The use of an old
>liner with a new liner will drastically affect exhaust flow resulting in
>decreased performance and possible engine damage.

I though it would just vent excess backpressure through the PCV valve.
That's what its for, right?

Larry Miller

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Jul 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/12/95
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>My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?


You may want to check your hydraulic dipstick also. They are very prone to
catastrophe when your muffler bearings are bad. If your budget allows have them
install chrome muffler bearings upon replacement, they just look better. You may
want to have this all checked on the Sesmic Oscillator 9500, just to be sure.


Joseph J Wiles

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Jul 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/12/95
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I agree with replacing the liners, but you it is important to note that if you
have dual exhaust it will be necessary to replace both liners. The use of an old
liner with a new liner will drastically affect exhaust flow resulting in
decreased performance and possible engine damage.


WILDMAN

Greg Kras

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Jul 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/12/95
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Larry Miller (lmi...@sunny.dab.ge.com) wrote:

: >My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?


Muffler bearings are a sure sign that either your:

1. Low on blinker fluid

or

2. In bad need of having your oil pump's magnetic bushings removed and replaced
with aluminum wing nuts.

You should check the hydrolic dipstick as well, those things are a pain to replace....

--
Greg Kras

Steven

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Jul 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/12/95
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They are as easy if not easier than replacing Mazda RX7 Piston
Rings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On 11 Jul 1995, Joey Leslie wrote:

> My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?
>

> Joey
> jle...@tcd.net
>
>

M Lang

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Jul 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/12/95
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In article <3tuu2a$4...@news.tcd.net>, jle...@tcd.net (Joey Leslie) wrote:

> My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?
>
> Joey
> jle...@tcd.net

Muffler has bearings? What's that?

- ML -

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tracker

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Jul 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/12/95
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While you're having all this work done, you might want to check the
blinker fluid too, just to be on the safe side. Note: The left blinker
has different fluid than the right blinker, so, don't mix them up.

Jeffrey Macko

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Jul 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/13/95
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-> From: ml...@inst-sun1.jpl.nasa.gov (M Lang)
->
-> In article <3tuu2a$4...@news.tcd.net>, jle...@tcd.net (Joey Leslie)
-> wrote:
-> > My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?
-> >
-> > Joey
-> > jle...@tcd.net
->
-> Muffler has bearings? What's that?

EVERYONE knows mufflers have bearings! Sheesh, you must of taken the
little bus to school.

--Jeffrey

:)

Joey Leslie

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Jul 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/13/95
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In article <mlang-12079...@128.149.109.245>, ml...@inst-sun1.jpl.nasa.gov (M Lang) says:

>
>In article <3tuu2a$4...@news.tcd.net>, jle...@tcd.net (Joey Leslie) wrote:
>
>> My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?
>>
>> Joey
>> jle...@tcd.net
>
>Muffler has bearings? What's that?
>
> - ML -
>
>+------------------------------------------------------------+
>Disclaimer: These comments are the personal opinions of
>the author, and have not been adopted, authorized,
>ratified, or approved by JPL.
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Muffler bearings are a very complicated device used to allow exhaust gases
to escape without back pressure. The "newest" trend is to use crome ones
that you can see by looking deep inside the pipe (while it is running, I
might note). If ya look waaaaay in there (you might need a lighter and
some gas to see in there) you'll see some fins spinning on a enclosed
bearing which requires repacking _at least_ once every 3000 miles. I have
now replaced my bearings with those that are approved by the F.D.A.,
because I have heard that to much smoking can cause lung cancer. Well, if
you have anymore questions about muffler bearings feel free to ask anyone.
Tsk Tsk Tsk.

Joey
"Mother nature paints beautiful pictures,
and they all look better from a Harley"

David Bogle

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Jul 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/13/95
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Wait a minute, I think you guys are all way off.!! I have had this exact
problem and this is what you should do.

First-- check the air in the spare tire to make sure it has at least 237 psi.
Anything short of this is UN-Acceptable. This has a direct relation to the
muffler bearing as they are interconnected via the turn signal fluid resevoir.

Second-- Did you forget to add the proper amount of DOT 3 brake fluid to your
wiper washer resevoir. Without this, the bearings will not be properly
lubricated.

Third -- No one has yet mentioned the most obvious, could it not be that your
flux capacitor is out of diatomic atomizing agents?? This is available at most
liquor or package stores. (In the event it is unavailable, prune juice works
fine.)
--
David Bogle
Intralox Engineering

david...@laitram.com


David Bogle

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Larry Miller

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Jul 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/13/95
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In article m...@zeus.IntNet.net, gr...@news.IntNet.net (Greg Kras) writes:

>Larry Miller (lmi...@sunny.dab.ge.com) wrote:
>
>: >My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?
>
>
>: You may want to check your hydraulic dipstick also. They are very prone to
>: catastrophe when your muffler bearings are bad. If your budget allows have them
>: install chrome muffler bearings upon replacement, they just look better. You may
>: want to have this all checked on the Sesmic Oscillator 9500, just to be sure.
>
>
>Muffler bearings are a sure sign that either your:
>
>1. Low on blinker fluid


Just a word of caution on blinker fluid - make sure you get fresh dehumidified metric
blinker fluid. Got a bad jar one time and it wiped out the crankshaft differential
baffle due to lack of inverse pressure out of the jar. After all, that's why they
sell it in those dark jars!

>or
>
>2. In bad need of having your oil pump's magnetic bushings removed and replaced
> with aluminum wing nuts.

The only way of correctly diagnosing magnetic bushing failure is with a flopitical
drive analyzer. I tried once with my flux capacitor transducer pressure relief
vortexer, but found I had the wrong electron oil. What a dummy! Everyone knows you
don't mix electron oil in the relief vortexer.


>You should check the hydrolic dipstick as well, those things are a pain to replace....
>
>

I would also have the exhaust linings checked as many others have stated. Just make
sure if they do replace the set, you have the perpendicular straightness stiffeners
welded in the system. This will make sure the backflow on the PCV valve is correct,
as Robert King stated.

As far as checking for proper torque, I've had good luck with my trusty old velocity
adapter wrench. It will tighten them to the point of before having to back them off
half a turn. Word of caution - don't use this on your cam toggle bolts. It may cause
your oil metering gauge to become uncalibrated and subject to premature failure.

Graeme Lemin

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Jul 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/13/95
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In article <3u0i91$6...@theopolis.orl.mmc.com> lmi...@sunny.dab.ge.com (Larry Miller) writes:
>From: lmi...@sunny.dab.ge.com (Larry Miller)
>Subject: Re: Anyone know how to replace muffler bearing
>Date: 12 Jul 1995 13:21:37 GMT


>>My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?


>You may want to check your hydraulic dipstick also. They are very prone to
>catastrophe when your muffler bearings are bad. If your budget allows have them
>install chrome muffler bearings upon replacement, they just look better. You may
>want to have this all checked on the Sesmic Oscillator 9500, just to be sure.


Now be careful here. I once thought I had the same problem, and was ready to
install new muffler bearings (dual exhaust by the way). It was just a chance
conversation with an old mechanic who suggested that I check the radiator
bearings. They were bad!!!! Given that they are constantly immersed in water,
I asked if I should use standard bearings, or chrome, and the general opinion
'in the trade' is that I should use bearings made from unobtanium. Another tip
I got from the same guy was on how to torque bolts correctly. He suggest that
all bolts shoule be tightened until they strip, and then backed off half a
turn. (just in case any inexperienced people are reading this, it IS a joke,
ok? Don't try this at home!)

Graeme

f...@arch4.ho.att.com

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Jul 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/13/95
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In article <3u0um4$g...@kocrsv08.delcoelect.com>,

Proceed with caution. Other problems are often misdiagnosed as bad muffler bearings.
The symptoms are often traceable to the nut behind the wheel.

FEC

Ken Boetzer

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Jul 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/13/95
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In article <3u3hnj$1...@news.tcd.net>, jle...@tcd.net (Joey Leslie) writes:
>In article <mlang-12079...@128.149.109.245>, ml...@inst-sun1.jpl.nasa.gov (M Lang) says:
>>
>>In article <3tuu2a$4...@news.tcd.net>, jle...@tcd.net (Joey Leslie) wrote:
>>
>>> My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?
SNIP

>>
>>Muffler has bearings? What's that?
HEE HEE SNIP SNIP

>
>
>Muffler bearings are a very complicated device used to allow exhaust gases
>to escape without back pressure. The "newest" trend is to use crome ones
>that you can see by looking deep inside the pipe (while it is running, I
>might note).

I probably shouldn't be talking about this here but we're all buddies right!? I have been
doing some work for the department of defence on magnetic levetation muffler bearings.
These are the latest thing in advance high speed muffler bearing technology. I have been
on the lookout for guys in black uniforms with yelow writing on their hats (MIDAS I think).
My wife said they have been lurcking aroud in the poison oak behind the shop. I guess they
didn't take much botany. More as developements come in.

Cheers,

Ken


Ken Boetzer

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Jul 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/13/95
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In article <3u45oc$a...@news.tcd.net>, jle...@tcd.net (Joey Leslie) writes:
>In article <3u3nk8$c...@alpha1.auspex.com>, kboe...@auspex.com (Ken Boetzer) says:
Snippage of secret stuff
>
>Ken,
>
>Magnetic levitaion muffler bearings have been around for years. I tried them once and
>whenever I started my car they shot out and killed small animals.

I guess that's why they have me working on them now.

>The levitaion
>mechanism is not trustworthy. As for the men in little black uniforms, that must
>be the KGB. They are looking for a new way to kill people under 2 ft tall.
>
>Joey

Cheers,

Ken


Bill Bressler

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Jul 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/13/95
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In article <3tuu2a$4...@news.tcd.net>, jle...@tcd.net (Joey Leslie) writes:
|> My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?
|>
|> Joey
|> jle...@tcd.net

I'm not sure, but the last time I had mine replaced, it cost me
$1874.37. It must be hard to do cuz parts was only $0.37.

Now I gots a problem wit my carborated fuel injection system.

Bill

p.s. I didnt even get my core credit.


Joey Leslie

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Jul 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/13/95
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In article <3u3nk8$c...@alpha1.auspex.com>, kboe...@auspex.com (Ken Boetzer) says:


>I probably shouldn't be talking about this here but we're all buddies right!? I have been
>doing some work for the department of defence on magnetic levetation muffler bearings.
>These are the latest thing in advance high speed muffler bearing technology. I have been
>on the lookout for guys in black uniforms with yelow writing on their hats (MIDAS I think).
>My wife said they have been lurcking aroud in the poison oak behind the shop. I guess they
>didn't take much botany. More as developements come in.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Ken
>


Ken,

Magnetic levitaion muffler bearings have been around for years. I tried them once and

whenever I started my car they shot out and killed small animals. The levitaion

Ken Rolt 603-645-5750

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Jul 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/14/95
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Joey Leslie (jle...@tcd.net) wrote:
: My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?
: Joey jle...@tcd.net

Well Joey, obviously, you need SLYCK 50 Muffler bearings.

When your muffler gets old, combustion deposits can build-up on
your muffler bearings, robbing power, adding costly fiction and
where. This is a terrible thing to do to your muffler.

That's why you need SLYCK 50 Muffler bearings. These have a
atomically-thin Duppont PHONY coating on the bearing races that
virtually eliminates gas-guzzling and power-robbing friction.
And they only cost $465 for each bearing. Install once and they
will last "for as long as you own your car."

Remember, use SLYCK 50 Muffler bearings. Available on the shelves
of fine auto parts stores, next to CD-9 Instant Engine Overhaul in-a-can.

Joey Leslie

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In article <3u5u8h$8...@news.sanders.lockheed.com>, kr...@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com (Ken Rolt 603-645-5750) says:

>Well Joey, obviously, you need SLYCK 50 Muffler bearings.........

Slick 50 is the best stuff on earth. Have ya ever tried it on cereal?
Cholesterol buildup the bloodsteep is just swept away (with some time on
the can)! And, of course, it repairs those scratched arteries and blood
vessels. I've never heard of their muffler bearings though.

Joey

Tod Treganowan

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Jul 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/14/95
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In article <3tuu2a$4...@news.tcd.net>, jle...@tcd.net (Joey Leslie) wrote:

> My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?
>
> Joey
> jle...@tcd.net

Joey,

Muffler bearings can easily be replaced with the proper tools. I
recommend a left-handed monkey wrench and a reverse framastat puller.

Important!!! Remember always to rent a McMurrey flubber compressor to
hold the springs in tension. If that baby lets go, you could lose an eye.

Also...apply heat liberally to all infected areas, followed by a wopping
dollop of bag balm.

Good luck, Skipper!


Tod "grew up in my mom's tranny shop" T.

Scott Asmus

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In article <3u1j5p$1...@portal.dx.net> us...@portal.dx.net (tracker) writes:
>From: us...@portal.dx.net (tracker)

>Subject: Re: Anyone know how to replace muffler bearing
>Date: 12 Jul 1995 18:43:05 -0400

>While you're having all this work done, you might want to check the
>blinker fluid too, just to be on the safe side. Note: The left blinker
>has different fluid than the right blinker, so, don't mix them up.


Also note you will need a left handed screw driver to get the left blinker out
and a right handed (conventional) screw driver for the other side.

Scott.


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Jul 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/15/95
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lmi...@sunny.dab.ge.com writes:
"
">My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?
"
"
"You may want to check your hydraulic dipstick also. They are very prone to
"catastrophe when your muffler bearings are bad. If your budget allows have them
"install chrome muffler bearings upon replacement, they just look better. You may
"want to have this all checked on the Sesmic Oscillator 9500, just to be sure.

be sure also to replace your canniculating pins, and your frammistat -
esp. if it's a bilateral frammistat. [the -inverse- bilateral
frammistats are usually OK].

NB. most newer cars have a veeblefetzer instead of a frammistat...

Sandwich Maker

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Jul 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/15/95
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sco...@mincom.oz.au (Scott Asmus) writes:
"In article <3u1j5p$1...@portal.dx.net> us...@portal.dx.net (tracker) writes:
">From: us...@portal.dx.net (tracker)
">Subject: Re: Anyone know how to replace muffler bearing
">Date: 12 Jul 1995 18:43:05 -0400
"
">While you're having all this work done, you might want to check the
">blinker fluid too, just to be on the safe side. Note: The left blinker
">has different fluid than the right blinker, so, don't mix them up.
"
"
"Also note you will need a left handed screw driver to get the left blinker out
"and a right handed (conventional) screw driver for the other side.

and remember -- the plus-type screwdrivers are for -installing- screws;
the minus-type are for -removing- them. don't get them confused!

-adh

Flup

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Jul 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/15/95
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> Steven <s...@ecst.csuchico.edu> writes:
> They are as easy if not easier than replacing Mazda RX7 Piston
> Rings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> On 11 Jul 1995, Joey Leslie wrote:
>
> > My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?
> >
> > Joey
> > jle...@tcd.net
> >
> >
>

Talking about the RX7 Piston Rings;
I had to change'em once and ,dummi me, installed
them upside down.
This resulted in real bad performance while
driving forward and a stalled motor when I tried
to back-up.
At least it didnt damage Piston back-pull springs,
what could have easily happen' , the wrench in the shop
down the road said.

Fl...@terra.sirius.com

Nick Ciarallo

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Jul 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/15/95
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In article <3u0i91$6...@theopolis.orl.mmc.com> you write:
>
>>My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?
>
>You may want to check your hydraulic dipstick also. They are very prone to
>catastrophe when your muffler bearings are bad. If budget allows have them
>install chrome muffler bearings upon replacement, they just look better.

While you're at it, better check the piston-return-springs. If the muffler
bearings have gone bad, it's time to replace those nasty piston return
springs...it's a bitch of a job, but well worth the work.


Alexander M. Bilan

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Jul 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/15/95
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On Fri 14-Jul-1995 2:16p, Ken Rolt 603-645-5750 wrote:

K6> Remember, use SLYCK 50 Muffler bearings. Available on the shelves
K6> of fine auto parts stores, next to CD-9 Instant Engine Overhaul in-a-can.

Don't knock CD-9, I used some of that in my little 305... It works I tell you!
Its now a 350 with a high lift cam!!!



Mr.V-8
// The opinions expressed above are strictly the opinions of my fingers
\X/ and may not reflect the opinions of the other apendages.

John Ingram

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Jul 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/17/95
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In <lemin.301...@rmit.edu.au> le...@rmit.edu.au (Graeme Lemin)
writes:
>
>In article <3u0i91$6...@theopolis.orl.mmc.com> lmi...@sunny.dab.ge.com
(Larry Miller) writes:
>>From: lmi...@sunny.dab.ge.com (Larry Miller)
>>Subject: Re: Anyone know how to replace muffler bearing
>>Date: 12 Jul 1995 13:21:37 GMT

>
>
>>>My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?
>
>
(just in case any inexperienced people are reading this, it IS a joke,

>ok? Don't try this at home!)
>

I can't believe this post got this much response! Does anyone out
there have a left handed smoke shifter?

John
>
>
>
>


for...@bryanb-pc.ngc.com

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Jul 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/18/95
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> Subject: Re: Anyone know how to replace muffler bea
> Date: 13 Jul 1995 15:50:17 GMT
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> In article m...@zeus.IntNet.net, gr...@news.IntNet.net (Greg Kras) writes:
> >Larry Miller (lmi...@sunny.dab.ge.com) wrote:
> >
> >: >My muffler bearings have gone bad! How do I replace them?

<small snip>

All this expertise and noone realizes the real PROBLEM!!

The piston return springs have gone bad and so the lack of backpressure
to the mufflers have seized the muffler bearings in place!! I advise as
below to stick at least one eye up the tailpipe and look for the bearing
that's stuck while the motor is running. Then take a knife with
about a quarter stick of butter and try to butter up the bearing and get
it loose.

Oh yeah and don't forget to replace the piston return springs with high
torsion resistant springs in about the 800-1000lbs range.

That otta do it!

> >
> >
> >: You may want to check your hydraulic dipstick also. They are very prone to
> >: catastrophe when your muffler bearings are bad. If your budget allows have

them
> >: install chrome muffler bearings upon replacement, they just look better.

You may
> >: want to have this all checked on the Sesmic Oscillator 9500, just to be
sure.
> >
> >

RotaryRckt

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Jul 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/19/95
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These problems are relatively insignificant compared to what can
happen if you let those muffler bearings go too long. As the bearings
overheat, they can warp the housings of the third resonant evacuator
chambers that help scavenge the excess nitrates from the catalytic
converter's discharge port. Hear me now and believe me later, this is the
biggest bitch of a headache you'll ever have to endure with a motor
vehicle.

f...@arch4.ho.att.com

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Jul 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/20/95
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I'm telling you, it's not the muffler bearings! You need a new
head for the driver.

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