Metal shavings in transmission
Yoshi Oribe
Hello all,
I own an 86 Chevy Celebrity with a TH 125 3-speed automatic
transmission. Recently when I had the transmission fluid changed,
the mechanic found shavings of metal (silver in color) when he
pried open the transmission filter. He told me this is the
beginning stages of wear on the transmission and recommended a $275
take-out-and-inspect of the unit. The car has nearly 130K on it -
how long do you think I have until a rebuild? The transmission has
not given me any problems; although just today, the car surged when
I was making a sharp low speed turn. Is this an indication of
troubles to come??
Yoshi
sbl...@linknet.net
If you found shaveings and changed the fluid your days are numbered.
The clutch material is very thin in there and may even be gone on a
few of the disks. An overhaul is in the near future. Don't go for the
takeout inspection just have it rebuilt.
Small Block
Chevy Mania
James Lepphaille
Yoshi Oribe (tau...@eecs.umich.edu) wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I own an 86 Chevy Celebrity with a TH 125 3-speed automatic
Always change the fluid when you're suppose to, maybe have the bands
adjusted and drive it till it dies (which will probably be another 100k)
jim
"under the redwoods" Forestville CA, USA "100mi. North of San Francisco"
Trannyman
>Hello all,
>I own an 86 Chevy Celebrity with a TH 125 3-speed automatic
>transmission. Recently when I had the transmission fluid changed,
>the mechanic found shavings of metal (silver in color) when he
>pried open the transmission filter. He told me this is the
>beginning stages of wear on the transmission and recommended a $275
>take-out-and-inspect of the unit. The car has nearly 130K on it -
>how long do you think I have until a rebuild? The transmission has
>not given me any problems; although just today, the car surged when
>I was making a sharp low speed turn. Is this an indication of
>troubles to come??
>Yoshi
Being a qualified technician, I would like to inform you that a small
amount of metal particals is normal. Especially if he had to "PRY" the
filter apart to discover this. As far as the "lets pull it out and
look at it scam" DON'T let them get you trapped. If you need a
transmission overhaul, a reputable shop will tell you if you need an
overhaul and supply you with a firm price. Now as for the "surging
around a corner", was it falling out of gear?? If so, you might want
to recheck your fluid level. If it is low on fluid or the filter is
improperly installed, it will fall in and out of gear in curves.
Are you having any troubles with you're transmission?? Or were you
just getting it serviced?? 130,000 miles is a lot for a 125 but I've
seen quite a few go longer.
As far as the advice from another post which stated:
>> Always change the fluid when you're suppose to, maybe have the bands
>> adjusted and drive it till it dies (which will probably be another 100k)
>>
he was obviously not refering to you're transmission as the only band
it has is not adjustable.
George
gspa...@pipeline.com
michael geitner
>Hello all,
>
>I own an 86 Chevy Celebrity with a TH 125 3-speed automatic
>transmission.
Every transmission I ever opened up had metal in the pan. A mechanic
knows this and will use it to sell you more service than you need. If
there are symptoms, then take it in for service.
Mike
DLFA - Here to help!
Steve Sheldon
None <t...@professionals.com> wrote in article
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> Yoshi Oribe wrote:
> ;>
> ;> Hello all,
> ;>
> ;> I own an 86 Chevy Celebrity with a TH 125 3-speed automatic
> ;> transmission. Recently when I had the transmission fluid changed,
> ;> the mechanic found shavings of metal (silver in color) when he
> ;> pried open the transmission filter. He told me this is the
> ;> beginning stages of wear on the transmission and recommended a $275
> ;> take-out-and-inspect of the unit.
>
> a few metal particles found between ATF fluid changes is normal. however
you
> didn't mention how much was found.
Exactly.
What the hell is this $275, take it out and inspect it charge?
Change the fluid, adjust the bands... otherwise don't spend any more
money on the thing until it's failing.... And then you use that $275 to
help pay for the repair.
$275 to look at something that ain't necessarily broke?
Sounds like a Honda dealership...
Craig Ross
Trannyman wrote:
snip
>
> Being a qualified technician, I would like to inform you that a small
> amount of metal particals is normal. Especially if he had to "PRY" the
> filter apart to discover this. As far as the "lets pull it out and
> look at it scam" DON'T let them get you trapped. If you need a
> transmission overhaul, a reputable shop will tell you if you need an
> overhaul and supply you with a firm price. Now as for the "surging
> around a corner", was it falling out of gear?? If so, you might want
> to recheck your fluid level. If it is low on fluid or the filter is
> improperly installed, it will fall in and out of gear in curves.
> Are you having any troubles with you're transmission?? Or were you
> just getting it serviced?? 130,000 miles is a lot for a 125 but I've
> seen quite a few go longer.
Bingo! Also, it is normal to see some debris on the magnet in the pan.
The filter, the magnet, and some screens which are found in the valve
body (separater plate) are the transmission's protection from normal
wear. As for the clutch plates, if you've got big chunks of metal
floating around in the fluid, you'll get a stuck valve or TCC solenoid
long before the clutch plates go bad.
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Chow Yun-Fat
What might be considered a symptom? My car sometimes has rough or harsh
shifts when I shift from park to reverse or park to drive or from
reverse to park. Sometimes its a somewhat loud harsh percussive sound.
I check the automatic transmission fluid level and its adequate. Do you
know what might be the cause of the harsh shifting?
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