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Gregory Zamor

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Mar 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/2/99
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i have an 83 rabbit convertible with 1.6 engine.i want to have more
power.which engine should i replace it with?which one is the
cheapest?should i just rebuild this one?


BFDEIHL

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Mar 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/2/99
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Gregory Zamor wrote:

The JH block from a 83-84 GTI is an easy upgrade, it gives you an extra 200ccs
and bigger valves. Good used engines can be had for under $500...

I don't really think any swap is exactly CHEAP, if you do it right- at a
minimum, I would consider new motor mounts, clutch/clutch seals,and a new
timing belt and tensioner as additional items that should be budgeted into the
swap. Also plan on new manifold gaskets for the exhaust.

Speaking of exhausts, you will find some easy extra horsepower there, even for
your 1.6- if you dump that single outlet manifold in favor of either the
dual-port earlier style/Techtonics downpipe combo- or a quality 4-2-1 (Tri-Y)
header. If the 1.6 is in good shape, you may want to try the exhaust upgrade
first, it won't be a waste when you upgrade to the larger motor...

The hottest set-up (within reason) is the later '93 up ABA two-liter block
with the JH head. That allows you to retain your CIS injection intact, and with
mild porting, this combo can run in the 150 hp range- which would really make
that Cabby fly-- but there again, this would not be cheap.

Rebuilding your present motor with larger slugs and stroke is an option, but it
is not a particularly cost effective one. Plan on spending upwards of a grand
if you go that route...

Hope this helps...

BFDeihl
81 Caddy/ 84 JH 1.8 liter

thesc...@juno.com

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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In article <10137-36...@newsd-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,

gre...@webtv.net (Gregory Zamor) wrote:
> i have an 83 rabbit convertible with 1.6 engine.i want to have more
> power.which engine should i replace it with?which one is the
> cheapest?should i just rebuild this one?
>
>
It is a 1.7L even though it says 1.6L on the head.

The 8V 1.8L is the most cost effective way to go.

Any mod that you do on the 1.7L setup, will do wonders once you install a
1.8L. Such as; an early 4 into 2 manifold, Techtonics down-pipe with 2"
exhaust.

Peter thesc...@juno.com
'88 Scirocco 16V
'87 Scirocco 16V
'83 Caged Rabbit GTI

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Gerow

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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thesc...@juno.com wrote:
>
> In article <10137-36...@newsd-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
> gre...@webtv.net (Gregory Zamor) wrote:
> > i have an 83 rabbit convertible with 1.6 engine.i want to have more
> > power.which engine should i replace it with?which one is the
> > cheapest?should i just rebuild this one?
> >
> >
> It is a 1.7L even though it says 1.6L on the head.
>
> The 8V 1.8L is the most cost effective way to go.
>
> Any mod that you do on the 1.7L setup, will do wonders once you install a
> 1.8L. Such as; an early 4 into 2 manifold, Techtonics down-pipe with 2"
> exhaust.
>

Yeah. It's essentially a bolt up, although I would a thorough run
through the car (CVs OK? Clutch OK?, etc.) while the motor's out. No
sense waiting to crawl around under the car later when you can have 100%
access to all the other parts with the motor out!

While we're on the subject: The 1.7 has all of it's power at the high
side of the RPM scale. Does anyone know how to bring that down some?
Should I turn the cam a tooth (which way) and does the G grind cam (or
any other cam) bring the power band closer to the low end then stock?

jonnyGURU
http://webhelp.org/vw
The Bad Habit Rabbit


Ben

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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I know that where I live (Portland, Or.) There is a popular VW parts place
called Halsey Import Parts. And they sell something that is ACUTELY
interesting. They sell 2.0l 8v CIS motor that is 10:1 just like the GIT
1.8l, and has the larger diameter intake valves too!! I guess they get them
out of Canada. All for a startling $1675!!! I realize that that is more
than you wanna spend, but I plan on landing that into my '77 Scirocco's
engine bay soon. Then I will probably invest in swapping to CIS-E ignition
and popping in my 5-speed '84 GTI tranny with sport clutch. I have the
Scirocco S 5-speed linkage chilling in my garage.

Screw all that 16v, VR6, Turbo, and all of that other royal money-sucking
rich-boy magazine stuff (though it is cool)

What I am talking about, my friends, is a formula for serious and relatively
budget scootage!!

Ben

Ddaley56

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Mar 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/24/99
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>I know that where I live (Portland, Or.) There is a popular VW parts place
>called Halsey Import Parts.

They're popular because they offer quality parts for unbelieveably low prices--
I've got a grocery bag full of receipts from Halsey, and have never been
disappointed-Great guys.

Their service department is also first rate.

They tell me that they do a limited mail order business as well- anybody
looking for the lowest price on a VW or Audi part would be doing themselves a
favor by calling Halsey @ (503)256-0182...

David Marshall

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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I can supply the same thing for less than $1675 (US??). If you are just
looking for a 2.0L with a CIS head with 33/40mm valves I can get them to you
for $1300 CAD / ~$870 USD. These include new seals, gaskets, oil pan and
oil pump. They are also test run until the oil reaches 80deg C and a
compression test is done before they leave the shop. These are ready for
any Volkswagen CIS based distributor and they also have provisions for CIS
fuel pressure regs as well.

Also, if you are interested I can provide "plug and play" knock sensors for
this kind of engine. You can use the existing A1 ignition system, but I
don't recommend it because of the 10:1cr.

David Marshall

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