Vick
94 Golf GL
Richard Dowdell wrote:
> Does anyone know what the top speed of a 1997 Jetta 2.0 liter with the
> stick is? I have almost 4K miles on it and am not about to find out for
> a while.
Hope this helps
97 Jetta Trek 2.0L
Richard Dowdell wrote in message <35A418E1...@yahoo.com>...
My 97 GTI 2.0L with TT exhaust, P-Chip, and K&N drop-in filter achieved an
indicated 128 MPH on I-89 in Vermont. This was on stock tires. The car was
actually pretty stable (more so than my old '88 GTI 16V at 100 MPH.) and
nowhere near redline. Lotsa wind noise around the mirrors though.
Andrew 97 GTI 2.0L "Doin' 120, drivin' over mail boxes .... got the radar
detector to tell me where the cops is.." -Beastie Boys-
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Enjoy the ride!
BTW my car is a '94 Golf GTI
Marcin Freyberg
"SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT"
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Cosmo Kramer
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Richard Dowdell wrote in message <35A418E1...@yahoo.com>...
My jetta only has 9000Km so no, I haven't been above even 140Km/h yet.
;) some day though.
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Jim
This car is good for 115-118 mph MAX.
Everybody who's telling that has a faster car has either a optimistic
speedo or ... is lying as the one who said that his car reached 140 mph on
its own!
Richard Dowdell <ric...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
>I have done 132MPH in a '97 Jetta GT 5 speed!
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>Cosmo Kramer
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Cosmo,
I have done 120mph in my 1990 Golf GL (now awaiting some tranny repairs), a car
which according to the experts at Car and Driver, only goes 108.
My 1995 Golf I have never taken above 90mph, but feels like it will go a lot
faster than my 1990, if given the chance.
.
John
95 Golf
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>This car is good for 115-118 mph MAX.
>
>Everybody who's telling that has a faster car has either a optimistic
>speedo or ... is lying as the one who said that his car reached 140 mph on
>its own!
Maybe the 140mph is a bit hard to grasp BUT cars do have variables in how fast
they will accelerate to sixty, top speed, etc. over the course of the engine
and the cars life.
BMW did a few ads a while back with a theme that was something like
"Gets better with age" which included stats and figures that showed how several
models got quicker to sixty after a like 30,000 miles, and had better top ends.
This is not at all odd, as you will discover by looking through articles in
most any car magazine which does long term vehicle testing ( Such as Autoweek,
Car and Driver). Sometimes the cars come slower, most times a little faster.
It does not surprise me to hear that a 4 banger 2.0 A3 can do better than 115 -
118 mph. These cars are built, through many different measures, for high speed
driving.
Just because they do not accelerate to sixty as quick as a mustang does not
mean that they cannot be driven fast and well.
Many German cars are this way.
A case in point would be some of the many different Audi models, past and
present, which take a leisurely strowl of, say 10 or 11 seconds to get to sixty
BUT can easily go 140mph.
This is how these cars are used ( maybe not at 140, but at a good constant 80,
90 or 100) so solid performance at a good top end is neccessary.
Primarily, the zero to sixty is a favorite sport of Americans.
(A Jeep Cherokee 4.0 liter 5 speed, for example, is quite quick, going to sixty
in like 7.5 seconds, much faster than a 4 cylinder Jetta or Golf, but the Jeep
gives up the action at only 107 mph.)
Just because a car is not all that quick to sixty does not make it slow, and
once you get a Jetta or Golf 2.0 moving, they move very well.
( I am not sure where I saw it but yes, apparently the 4 cylinder 2.0's DO have
speed limiters, just like the VR6)
John
Jeff
Everyone reading this thread should go visit Jan's VW site and download the
gear ratio formula......it would then be settled. Here is the address:
http://www-pal.usc.edu/~jan/cars.html
enjoy
>
>Cosmo,
>
>I have done 120mph in my 1990 Golf GL (now awaiting some tranny repairs), a car
>which according to the experts at Car and Driver, only goes 108.
Down a hill, maybe. I had a 1990 Golf GL and I can tell you for a
*fact* that 110 was the flat-to-the-floor top speed of that car - I
held my foot to the floor for close to two hours going from
Burlington, VT to Boston, MA one Sunday evening. This was in a nicely
broken-in vehicle (30,000 miles) with everything in working order.
Either your speedo was optimistic (my guess) or you were.
Stuart
93 Passat GLX
>
>My 1995 Golf I have never taken above 90mph, but feels like it will go a lot
>faster than my 1990, if given the chance.
I'm sure it will. The best place to find out is Rte. 89 in Vermont,
or the midwest somewhere.
>
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>
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>John
>95 Golf
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Slowcarfasterbike
93 Passat GLX, 93 Mazda Miata
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> Stuart
> 93 Passat GLX
>
> >
> >My 1995 Golf I have never taken above 90mph, but feels like it will go a lot
> >faster than my 1990, if given the chance.
>
> I'm sure it will. The best place to find out is Rte. 89 in Vermont,
> or the midwest somewhere.
I can second the Vermont reference. Rt. 89 between Burlington and Rt 91 is
the site of my top speed shenanigans. Since the north and south lanes are at
different elevations, there are few U-turns where cops can hide. The road is
in quite good shape too, which helps.
Andrew
97 GTI 2.0L
about 1 mph / hp
>>I have done 120mph in my 1990 Golf GL (now awaiting some tranny repairs), a car
>>which according to the experts at Car and Driver, only goes 108.
>Down a hill, maybe. I had a 1990 Golf GL and I can tell you for a
>*fact* that 110 was the flat-to-the-floor top speed of that car - I
>held my foot to the floor for close to two hours going from
>Burlington, VT to Boston, MA one Sunday evening. This was in a nicely
>broken-in vehicle (30,000 miles) with everything in working order.
Try 4th gear?
>Either your speedo was optimistic (my guess) or you were.
>Stuart
>93 Passat GLX
>>
>>My 1995 Golf I have never taken above 90mph, but feels like it will go a lot
>>faster than my 1990, if given the chance.
>I'm sure it will. The best place to find out is Rte. 89 in Vermont,
>or the midwest somewhere.
Not in Ohio, I advise... Unless you know something that I don't, then let me
know where is it good in Ohio.
CD'A
Safely yours,
Jim
Replace nospam with jetta to reply via e-mail
I have the same chip and only been up to 125 MPH. What downhill highway did you
use to wind out the Jetta for 3 miles to get to that speed?
>planted to the road once I top 80+. I've been done 138 or so in my friends 2.0
>16v Passat and it felt rock solid. At 140 my Mustang GT feet like it was going
>to spread wings....
I can agree with that and almost every US built car Z28 etc etc.
>
>Jeff
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ok... well regardless, my speedo told me my 2L A3 hit a hair over 130mph w/ a
Garrett Chip, TT268 Camshaft, K&N Filter and an exhaust--and it looked like
if I stayed on it a little longer I may have been able to squeeze a few more
mph out of it.. }8OP with the suspension tweaked out it felt extremely
stable at high speed--nothing like when it was stock (whew! SCARRY!!]
-Sean [A3/8v/GTi] -- "Got GTi?"
'94 Jetta
Autotech Chip, Short Shift Kit & Exhaust
HOR Cam
Bilstin Shocks, HOR Springs
15" MB Motoring Rims
K&N Air Filter
Dynamic Air Intake
PIAA 1252 (to see the road at high speeds)
Richard Dowdell <ric...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
Stilian
In article <35AB86B1...@vtls.com>, Stilian Elenkov <elen...@vtls.com>
wrote:
>Down a hill, maybe. I had a 1990 Golf GL and I can tell you for a
>*fact* that 110 was the flat-to-the-floor top speed of that car - I
>held my foot to the floor for close to two hours going from
>Burlington, VT to Boston, MA one Sunday evening. This was in a nicely
>broken-in vehicle (30,000 miles) with everything in working order.
That's because a 1990 is a 1.8L, and as previously mentioned, not as
aerodynamic.
still have car,would never do it agian cause car has 115000 miles and
something may let loose and at thoes kinds of speed i would die.80mph is
fast enough for me now. i dont trust old mexican made VW's at high speed!
,CHRIS
Yes, I can believe that if you have a cam, chip, exhaust and filter. It does
take a while for it to go up to that speed. If it takes more then a minute
from zero, then you know it's not the HPs but the momentum. Keep the peddle
down on any beater and you can either get that or blow the engine. No big
deal...
Yea I know, the Levittown Parkway with all the hot rodders. heheh
You said SE PA right?
Is your 94 discs all the way around?
<Armando stories were here>
The stories ring true and don't sound like hype. You must live in the midwest
somewhere with nice highways. The only thing I can say is you must have huge
brass nummies to do that with stock brakes. :o)
>Armando,'94 Golf GLS,81K miles/chipped/Bilstein HD shocks/F/R anti roll
>bars
Jim
>NICE! You must live in the midwest somewhere. Montana could be cool. I'm
sure
>you guys weren't racing from zero but just pacing. I noticed you didn't
mention
>any peticular brake mods. You must have real brass balls or just ran out of
>money. hehe
>
>Is your 94 discs all the way around?
>
>
What I'm saying is, if you have a stock A3, of course you didn't mention
that so we would have to ASSUme that it is stock. Naturally I would call
your wish of 130 hype since A you have 14" wheels therefore you think you were
going 120 but actually the speedo is calibrated to 15" wheels. The speedo
is the same as the 15" A3. VW didn't care if you show a faster speed. That
would not be illegal in their mind. You go 55 but really only go 53 no
big deal since it's not the other way around so they can't get sued.
B if you don't have mods then of course you would think you were going 120
since you were real close to the speed limiter which is a real 118. Use the
RPM and calculate the real speed.
No tude, I just don't like Hype. You can get those speeds but if it takes
longer then 1 minute then almost any car in the same caliber can do it.
Who cares.
I already posted my speed in my A3. I have an Autotech chip so it went past
the limit of 118. The funny part was that I was pacing a stock Mustang which
must have been a 6 banger with a limiter. The stang was taunting me at 80
when I backed off and let him forget about me. We were going on 78 West in
NJ and it was night time. He slowed down so I wouldn't lose him. After a
few minutes of staying back pretending I was driving normal I went left to his
blind side and hung out of a short. He didn't notice me creeping up and then
at a good straight I floored it past him. He immediately was on my ass but
he could not pass. I was losing him at 125 and as I slowed down to get off
an exit he was screaming at me with his window closed while I was looking
at him and his stang.
Cars do go better at night with the clear air and oxygen.
I also have discs on all wheels. The 93-94 was what they call a bridge car.
They put discs all the way around. The 95s and up have drums in the back.
Your location is helps with testing speed so your pretty lucky there. :o)
I agree with the muscle cars. Ever been in one at high speeds? You know
what I mean, a big box floating on ballons just waiting to hit the rail.
Forget about turning at high speeds in a big muscle box...
:o)
>>Flat or downhill, if there is any hint of incline, forget
it with the 4 cyl reaching anything abnormal.<<
What's with you man, where do you get the idea that a 4 cylinder will not
achieve these speeds.? We drove a Peugeot 403 on the Autobahn at 90 in the
1970's. We're not talking timed runs, drag racing etc... Just top speed. If
these speedo's are so inaccurate, maybe I was really going 151 or so. Maybe
my car dreamed it was a McLaren Mercedes leaving the SchuMan in the dust.
Speedo comments....Maybe, maybe not that significant. You're right about the
speed limiter... And using the rpm to calc the speed is the way to go.
>>No tude, I just don't like Hype. You can get those speeds but if it takes
longer then 1 minute then almost any car in the same caliber can do it.
Who cares. <<
You're right who cares? The thread just started out by requesting top speed.
We weren't interested in competing with other cars. Don't start with the
caliber!
No one in their right mind buys a VW for top speed or 0-60 times. They're
respectable, affordable German cars. Despite what you think, after having
lived in VWland and driven there, I'm confident while driving my VW. No not
at 120 for extended periods, but at higher speeds than most US drivers would
consider.
Jim
>In article <6ool3q$las$1...@news1.fast.net>, jimjb <ji...@spamfreefast.net> wrote:
>Jim, look at it this way. I was in a 1998 Buick LeSabre rent-a-beater and the
>speedo only goes to 100MPH. <SNIP> I also noticed my VW has more
>pep at the start then the 8 cyl Buick.
Buick LeSabre = 3.8L V6
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"Screw you guys, I'm going home." - EC (SP)
I went to the source on this one to find out for sure - I asked Garrett
Lim, who is one of the chip programmers par excellence and knows these
things inside and out. This was my question to him:
Q. "There has been some discussion on the VW List about the top
speed of an A3 2.0L. My understanding that the top speed was 118 mph. To
your knowledge, did either the OBDI or OBDII cars have a speed limiter?
A. The speed limiter has been killed my me [on my chips]. Only the 92
corrado and some 16v 2.0L did not have a speed limter."
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> In article <6o6lj8$il1$1...@news1.fast.net>, jimjb <ji...@spamfreefast.net>
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> > No optimism here. 120 mph and more pedal to go. I have rev limited,
but
> >not speed limited yet. I occasionally run this A3 8v 80-110 mph, but
have
> >had the car up to 120. This car will easily top 130. It is a German car
and
> >can be driven with confidence.
> >
> >Jim
> >
> Oh yea easily 130 with the Goodyear tires that come with the 14" rims.
Real safe
> and with confidence. You will of course need at least a 2 mile steep
decline to
> wind out with no other traffic in your way.
>
Thanx,
Samuel
I've got a '91 GLI that has been up to 115 before I backed out for a radar trap
on the Thruway. It was stock at the time.
going to Watkins Glen next week (can't wait!)
I'll let you know!
wolfie