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Vikram Sundararajan

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Jul 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/8/98
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In my 94 Golf it is 118 mph on flat road and about 123 on downhill. This
was when it was still totally stock. Those speeds are scary on a stock car
with stock tires.

Vick
94 Golf GL

Richard Dowdell wrote:

> Does anyone know what the top speed of a 1997 Jetta 2.0 liter with the
> stick is? I have almost 4K miles on it and am not about to find out for
> a while.


Richard Dowdell

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David Stewart

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I got my Jetta up to 195 km/h (approx 120 mph ) until the speed limiter
kicked in. That engine cut out almost made me get in a crash while someone
else was on my tail!!!.

Hope this helps
97 Jetta Trek 2.0L

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wolfsb...@hotmail.com

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In article <35A418E1...@yahoo.com>,

Richard Dowdell <ric...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know what the top speed of a 1997 Jetta 2.0 liter with the
> stick is? I have almost 4K miles on it and am not about to find out for
> a while.
>

My 97 GTI 2.0L with TT exhaust, P-Chip, and K&N drop-in filter achieved an
indicated 128 MPH on I-89 in Vermont. This was on stock tires. The car was
actually pretty stable (more so than my old '88 GTI 16V at 100 MPH.) and
nowhere near redline. Lotsa wind noise around the mirrors though.

Andrew 97 GTI 2.0L "Doin' 120, drivin' over mail boxes .... got the radar
detector to tell me where the cops is.." -Beastie Boys-

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Marcin Freyberg

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Jul 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/10/98
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With the stock chip you'll go no faster than 195km/h. (that's just under
120mph). The put in a speed limiter in the program.
With a new chip and other upgrades (exhaust and air intake) I reached
230km/h (140mph) when I ran out of road and had to slow down.

Enjoy the ride!

BTW my car is a '94 Golf GTI

Marcin Freyberg
"SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT"

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MTaly

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Jul 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/10/98
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I have an 86 Cab 2L. The speedometer pegs at 120mph, and my car had been there
a few times still accelerating. Going by RPM I had it up to 125mph 6000 rpm.
Handled smooth and felt strong at that speed.
members.aol.com/mtaly/
2L-8V, Eurospec head, schrick 280 cam, Techtonics exhaust, Neuspeed throttle
body, K&N, ported manifolds, Custom tailored Scirocco seats, Momo wheel and
pedal covers, Spax shocks & springs, 22/25 swaybars, upper/lower stress

Cosmo Kramer

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Jul 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/10/98
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I have done 132MPH in a '97 Jetta GT 5 speed!

--
Cosmo Kramer
vwje...@hotmail.com
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Dave Cretney

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Jul 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/10/98
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> ( I am not sure where I saw it but yes, apparently the 4 cylinder 2.0's
DO have
> speed limiters, just like the VR6)
>
>
When I picked up my new 1998 GT jetta they told me it doesn't have a speed
limiter (I live in canada) I wouldn't think there would be much difference
in the models destined for USA / CAN. I found it odd tthat they said
that. Any one in canada that has a recent A3 noticed a speed limiter kick
in.

My jetta only has 9000Km so no, I haven't been above even 140Km/h yet.
;) some day though.

--
NOS...@uvic.ca

note: for replying make NOSPAM= dcretney

jimjb

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Jul 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/10/98
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No optimism here. 120 mph and more pedal to go. I have rev limited, but
not speed limited yet. I occasionally run this A3 8v 80-110 mph, but have
had the car up to 120. This car will easily top 130. It is a German car and
can be driven with confidence.

Jim

USER

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Jul 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/11/98
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MAny VW speedo are optimistic! This has been demonstrated in many car
reviews.

This car is good for 115-118 mph MAX.

Everybody who's telling that has a faster car has either a optimistic
speedo or ... is lying as the one who said that his car reached 140 mph on
its own!

Richard Dowdell <ric...@yahoo.com> wrote in article

CARNIEHP

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Jul 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/11/98
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In article <35a5b...@news.prostar.com>, "Cosmo Kramer"
<vwje...@hotmail.com> writes:

>I have done 132MPH in a '97 Jetta GT 5 speed!
>
>--
>Cosmo Kramer
>vwje...@hotmail.com

Cosmo,

I have done 120mph in my 1990 Golf GL (now awaiting some tranny repairs), a car
which according to the experts at Car and Driver, only goes 108.

My 1995 Golf I have never taken above 90mph, but feels like it will go a lot
faster than my 1990, if given the chance.

.


John
95 Golf
90 Golf __To Send Email, Reply to Golf G...@aol.com Address aboveBLOCKED!__




CARNIEHP

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Jul 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/11/98
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In article <01bdac67$137537e0$6529cdcd@default>, "USER" <rob...@dsuper.net>
writes:

>
>This car is good for 115-118 mph MAX.
>
>Everybody who's telling that has a faster car has either a optimistic
>speedo or ... is lying as the one who said that his car reached 140 mph on
>its own!

Maybe the 140mph is a bit hard to grasp BUT cars do have variables in how fast
they will accelerate to sixty, top speed, etc. over the course of the engine
and the cars life.

BMW did a few ads a while back with a theme that was something like
"Gets better with age" which included stats and figures that showed how several
models got quicker to sixty after a like 30,000 miles, and had better top ends.

This is not at all odd, as you will discover by looking through articles in
most any car magazine which does long term vehicle testing ( Such as Autoweek,
Car and Driver). Sometimes the cars come slower, most times a little faster.

It does not surprise me to hear that a 4 banger 2.0 A3 can do better than 115 -
118 mph. These cars are built, through many different measures, for high speed
driving.
Just because they do not accelerate to sixty as quick as a mustang does not
mean that they cannot be driven fast and well.
Many German cars are this way.
A case in point would be some of the many different Audi models, past and
present, which take a leisurely strowl of, say 10 or 11 seconds to get to sixty
BUT can easily go 140mph.
This is how these cars are used ( maybe not at 140, but at a good constant 80,
90 or 100) so solid performance at a good top end is neccessary.
Primarily, the zero to sixty is a favorite sport of Americans.
(A Jeep Cherokee 4.0 liter 5 speed, for example, is quite quick, going to sixty
in like 7.5 seconds, much faster than a 4 cylinder Jetta or Golf, but the Jeep
gives up the action at only 107 mph.)
Just because a car is not all that quick to sixty does not make it slow, and
once you get a Jetta or Golf 2.0 moving, they move very well.

( I am not sure where I saw it but yes, apparently the 4 cylinder 2.0's DO have
speed limiters, just like the VR6)

John

Jeffrey Bulley

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Jul 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/11/98
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I've had my '95 Jetta GL up to 130 and still had a little left, but I have an
Autotech Q-Chip that removes the speed limiter. The car actually feels more
planted to the road once I top 80+. I've been done 138 or so in my friends 2.0
16v Passat and it felt rock solid. At 140 my Mustang GT feet like it was going
to spread wings....

Jeff

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Jul 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/11/98
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MY 1.8 93FOX HIT 115 DOWN HILL 95 FLATLAND NO MODS NOT BAD FOR 81HP

MTaly

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Jul 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/13/98
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You can check your speedo with your gear ratio formula. A simple way is if
you are 3000 rpm at 65mph, then you should be doing 6000rpm at 130 mph.

CCastle16V

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Jul 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/13/98
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>You can check your speedo with your gear ratio formula.

Everyone reading this thread should go visit Jan's VW site and download the
gear ratio formula......it would then be settled. Here is the address:
http://www-pal.usc.edu/~jan/cars.html

enjoy

slowcarfasterbike

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Jul 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/13/98
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On 11 Jul 1998 01:41:40 GMT, carn...@aol.com (CARNIEHP) wrote:

>
>Cosmo,
>
>I have done 120mph in my 1990 Golf GL (now awaiting some tranny repairs), a car
>which according to the experts at Car and Driver, only goes 108.

Down a hill, maybe. I had a 1990 Golf GL and I can tell you for a
*fact* that 110 was the flat-to-the-floor top speed of that car - I
held my foot to the floor for close to two hours going from
Burlington, VT to Boston, MA one Sunday evening. This was in a nicely
broken-in vehicle (30,000 miles) with everything in working order.

Either your speedo was optimistic (my guess) or you were.

Stuart
93 Passat GLX

>
>My 1995 Golf I have never taken above 90mph, but feels like it will go a lot
>faster than my 1990, if given the chance.

I'm sure it will. The best place to find out is Rte. 89 in Vermont,
or the midwest somewhere.

>
>.


>
>
>John
>95 Golf
>90 Golf __To Send Email, Reply to Golf G...@aol.com Address aboveBLOCKED!__
>
>
>
>

Slowcarfasterbike
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alwayswearpr...@earthling.net (slowcarfasterbike) wrote:

> Stuart
> 93 Passat GLX
>
> >
> >My 1995 Golf I have never taken above 90mph, but feels like it will go a lot
> >faster than my 1990, if given the chance.
>
> I'm sure it will. The best place to find out is Rte. 89 in Vermont,
> or the midwest somewhere.

I can second the Vermont reference. Rt. 89 between Burlington and Rt 91 is
the site of my top speed shenanigans. Since the north and south lanes are at
different elevations, there are few U-turns where cops can hide. The road is
in quite good shape too, which helps.

Andrew
97 GTI 2.0L
about 1 mph / hp

Cesar D'Agord

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Jul 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/13/98
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In article <35aa28f3.12242423@news> alwayswearpr...@earthling.net (slowcarfasterbike) writes:

>>I have done 120mph in my 1990 Golf GL (now awaiting some tranny repairs), a car
>>which according to the experts at Car and Driver, only goes 108.

>Down a hill, maybe. I had a 1990 Golf GL and I can tell you for a
>*fact* that 110 was the flat-to-the-floor top speed of that car - I
>held my foot to the floor for close to two hours going from
>Burlington, VT to Boston, MA one Sunday evening. This was in a nicely
>broken-in vehicle (30,000 miles) with everything in working order.

Try 4th gear?

>Either your speedo was optimistic (my guess) or you were.

>Stuart
>93 Passat GLX

>>
>>My 1995 Golf I have never taken above 90mph, but feels like it will go a lot
>>faster than my 1990, if given the chance.

>I'm sure it will. The best place to find out is Rte. 89 in Vermont,
>or the midwest somewhere.

Not in Ohio, I advise... Unless you know something that I don't, then let me
know where is it good in Ohio.

CD'A

jimjb

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Jul 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/13/98
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Spam,
If you want to ride shotgun? Bring yourself to southeast PA. You can see
for yourself. I'll even let you borrow one of my kid's bike helmets.

Safely yours,
Jim

Spam Sucks

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Jul 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/14/98
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Oh yea easily 130 with the Goodyear tires that come with the 14" rims. Real safe
and with confidence. You will of course need at least a 2 mile steep decline to
wind out with no other traffic in your way.

--
nos...@zero.com

Replace nospam with jetta to reply via e-mail

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> I've had my '95 Jetta GL up to 130 and still had a little left, but I have an
>Autotech Q-Chip that removes the speed limiter. The car actually feels more

I have the same chip and only been up to 125 MPH. What downhill highway did you
use to wind out the Jetta for 3 miles to get to that speed?

>planted to the road once I top 80+. I've been done 138 or so in my friends 2.0
>16v Passat and it felt rock solid. At 140 my Mustang GT feet like it was going
>to spread wings....

I can agree with that and almost every US built car Z28 etc etc.

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In article <01bdac67$137537e0$6529cdcd@default>, "USER" <rob...@dsuper.net> wrote:
>MAny VW speedo are optimistic! This has been demonstrated in many car
>reviews.
>
>This car is good for 115-118 mph MAX.
>
>Everybody who's telling that has a faster car has either a optimistic
>speedo or ... is lying as the one who said that his car reached 140 mph on
>its own!
>
>Richard Dowdell <ric...@yahoo.com> wrote in article

ok... well regardless, my speedo told me my 2L A3 hit a hair over 130mph w/ a
Garrett Chip, TT268 Camshaft, K&N Filter and an exhaust--and it looked like
if I stayed on it a little longer I may have been able to squeeze a few more
mph out of it.. }8OP with the suspension tweaked out it felt extremely
stable at high speed--nothing like when it was stock (whew! SCARRY!!]


-Sean [A3/8v/GTi] -- "Got GTi?"

Eric Ansay

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Jul 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/14/98
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I have buried my spedo a couple of times. My Jetta is real spirited up till
about 135 then drops off. I know at one thime that I was doing at least 140
because my best friend nearly shit a brick when he thought he had me in his
father vette and never thought I'd get going that fast. Growing up in
Germany I've seen several 4-bangers reach speeds that you'd never expect
them too.

'94 Jetta
Autotech Chip, Short Shift Kit & Exhaust
HOR Cam
Bilstin Shocks, HOR Springs
15" MB Motoring Rims
K&N Air Filter
Dynamic Air Intake
PIAA 1252 (to see the road at high speeds)

Armando Morales

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Jul 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/14/98
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Hi,
My '94 Golf has indicated 130MPH going downhill, on a surface that seems
flat it runs up to 125MPH. I have an aftermarket chip. Here are some
stories I gotten while driving 110+ mph:
Once I drove a 93 Jetta (stock), downhill without flooring it, it got up
to 115MPH, as soon as it got flat and I tried to maintain the speed by
flooring it then the top speed governor kicked in and I needed to slow
down a bit :(
Another time a Jetta was flashing the headlights close to my rear bumper
at about 120MPH, when I moved to the right lane the Jetta slowed down
and couldn't catch up, I guess I was cutting the wind for him and he was
able to stay very close to my car without flooring it, once the wind hit
him and he needed to floored it, his top speed governor kicked in and he
stayed behind :)
Another time crusing at 110MPH a black big BMW appeared in my rear view
mirror, it passed me like if I was doing 60, he stoped at the next gas
station and I kept going, about 30 minutes later he did pass me again at
about the same rate.
Last one...
I catched behing a GTI VR6, at 130 MPH (downhill) he moved to the right
lane, we were getting close to a semi truck, since I did not gain an
inch he pulled away, move to the left lane in front of me, we passed the
truck, he moved again to the right and slowed down, as I was passing him
it surprised me the driver was probably around 50, not the usual kind of
person you find doing things like his on a highway, as we got to the
toll station together he waved good bye. I hope in another 15 years I'm
still enjoying cars like that, or should I say be as irresponsible as
I'm now?
Armando,'94 Golf GLS,81K miles/chipped/Bilstein HD shocks/F/R anti roll
bars

Steve Dreskin

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Jul 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/14/98
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I have a '95 Cabrio (OBDI), which pretty much has the same engine as yours,
and the top speed governor on that car is 118 mph. It may be different on
your car because the engine management is OBDII.

Richard Dowdell <ric...@yahoo.com> wrote in article

Stilian Elenkov

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Jul 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/14/98
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>
> First, practically no speedo is going to be accurate at those speeds so
> you can't even verify your 110mph is accurate. Also we were talking about
> A3s which have more hp and are more aerodynamic than your '90 A2.
>
> Anthony

The A3s are heavier (250 - 350 lbs), and not more aerodynamic - the A3
is a little wider and has worse front swept area. I have a stock 86 gti
(with dual DP) and have pegged the speedo over the 120 mark many times.
These speedos are optimistic at high speeds though.

Stilian

endor...@earthlink.net

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Jul 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/15/98
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You forget that the A3's have taller gearing too... gearing which is better
for higher speed as opposed to the old close ratio boxes. Not knocking the
close ratio trannies... as I would gladly sacrifice top speed for better
acceleration.

In article <35AB86B1...@vtls.com>, Stilian Elenkov <elen...@vtls.com>
wrote:

Ben Ridge

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>Down a hill, maybe. I had a 1990 Golf GL and I can tell you for a
>*fact* that 110 was the flat-to-the-floor top speed of that car - I
>held my foot to the floor for close to two hours going from
>Burlington, VT to Boston, MA one Sunday evening. This was in a nicely
>broken-in vehicle (30,000 miles) with everything in working order.


That's because a 1990 is a 1.8L, and as previously mentioned, not as
aerodynamic.

dino

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Jul 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/15/98
to Ben Ridge
not for nothing but when my 89 Golf GL 1.8L 8-v 2- dr. 5-spedd in stock
trim and engine. when it was 1-2 years old i did 114-117mph on the loop
parkway near jones beach in long island NY, nice long straight and flat
concrete roadway with just hundreds of yards of sand on each side, no trees
or buildings at all......very well maintained & safe as roads go
i did that speed for perhaps 5 miles or so, i was thinking it could go a
little faster if i really opened the throttle on the bitch, perhaps 120mph
barrier?
spedo was and still is uncalabarted so who knows the exact speed. and the
tire size were stock. i really wasn't looking alot at the spedo or tach
cause i was doing 115mph! but i can say i did that kind of speed cause i
was glancing at the guages once in a while.

still have car,would never do it agian cause car has 115000 miles and
something may let loose and at thoes kinds of speed i would die.80mph is
fast enough for me now. i dont trust old mexican made VW's at high speed!

Christopher Reid

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Jul 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/16/98
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I've had my '96 GL up to 115mph. It was still pulling
and it's stock with an automatic. At the time the car had 25,000 miles.
Nowadays just approaching 40,000 mile. Done about 105 with A/C on!!


,CHRIS


Spam Sucks

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In article <6of65j$ds6$1...@fir.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,

<endor...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <01bdac67$137537e0$6529cdcd@default>, "USER" <rob...@dsuper.net> wrote:
>>MAny VW speedo are optimistic! This has been demonstrated in many car
>>reviews.
>>
>>This car is good for 115-118 mph MAX.
>>
>>Everybody who's telling that has a faster car has either a optimistic
>>speedo or ... is lying as the one who said that his car reached 140 mph on
>>its own!
>>
>>Richard Dowdell <ric...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
>
>ok... well regardless, my speedo told me my 2L A3 hit a hair over 130mph w/ a
>Garrett Chip, TT268 Camshaft, K&N Filter and an exhaust--and it looked like
>if I stayed on it a little longer I may have been able to squeeze a few more
>mph out of it.. }8OP with the suspension tweaked out it felt extremely
>stable at high speed--nothing like when it was stock (whew! SCARRY!!]
>
>
>-Sean [A3/8v/GTi] -- "Got GTi?"

Yes, I can believe that if you have a cam, chip, exhaust and filter. It does
take a while for it to go up to that speed. If it takes more then a minute
from zero, then you know it's not the HPs but the momentum. Keep the peddle
down on any beater and you can either get that or blow the engine. No big
deal...

Spam Sucks

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Jul 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/16/98
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Okay so tell me where you do this? I95 north from Levittown past Newtown to
the Yardley exit before NJ? How about the US1 superhighway? Uh, I don't think
so... Maybe you will get 110 to 115 there but 130+? How about the other way
I 95 south from Yardley to Newtown. Better wind it out real good if you want
to get 120...

Yea I know, the Levittown Parkway with all the hot rodders. heheh

You said SE PA right?

Spam Sucks

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Jul 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/16/98
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NICE! You must live in the midwest somewhere. Montana could be cool. I'm sure
you guys weren't racing from zero but just pacing. I noticed you didn't mention
any peticular brake mods. You must have real brass balls or just ran out of
money. hehe

Is your 94 discs all the way around?

Spam Sucks

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In article <35AB7EE1...@mx1.ibm.com>,
Armando Morales <armando...@mx1.ibm.com> wrote:

<Armando stories were here>

The stories ring true and don't sound like hype. You must live in the midwest
somewhere with nice highways. The only thing I can say is you must have huge
brass nummies to do that with stock brakes. :o)

>Armando,'94 Golf GLS,81K miles/chipped/Bilstein HD shocks/F/R anti roll
>bars

jimjb

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Jul 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/16/98
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Spammy,
Northeast extension of the PA turnpike. Sometimes Rte 422 expressway. So
what's the deal with your attitude? What are you saying? Is it that these
cars cannot achieve these speeds? Do you think there is a conspiracy among
all of the people who have responded? And what's the deal with speedo
inaccuracy? Even if I give you 10% of full scale, thats still better than
120 for an A3. What is the top speed of your A3?

Jim

Eric Ansay

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Jul 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/17/98
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I have discs all the way around...I have upgraded the pads and as of now
haven't had a problem with braking. I live in Wisconsin -- we have a
stretch of freeway from Milwaukee to Chicago where the cops never seem to be
there, and a freeway bridge that ends (after about 3-4 miles of straightaway
with nowhere for the cops to hang out at). Racing 0-60 gets pretty
boring--it's always neat to watch the "muscle cars" that can't make it at
top speed.


>NICE! You must live in the midwest somewhere. Montana could be cool. I'm
sure
>you guys weren't racing from zero but just pacing. I noticed you didn't
mention
>any peticular brake mods. You must have real brass balls or just ran out of
>money. hehe
>
>Is your 94 discs all the way around?
>
>

Spam Sucks

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Jul 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/17/98
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Okay, now we are getting somewhere. You were going south on the NE ext right?
That's downhill... Flat or downhill, if there is any hint of incline, forget
it with the 4 cyl reaching anything abnormal.

What I'm saying is, if you have a stock A3, of course you didn't mention
that so we would have to ASSUme that it is stock. Naturally I would call
your wish of 130 hype since A you have 14" wheels therefore you think you were
going 120 but actually the speedo is calibrated to 15" wheels. The speedo
is the same as the 15" A3. VW didn't care if you show a faster speed. That
would not be illegal in their mind. You go 55 but really only go 53 no
big deal since it's not the other way around so they can't get sued.

B if you don't have mods then of course you would think you were going 120
since you were real close to the speed limiter which is a real 118. Use the
RPM and calculate the real speed.

No tude, I just don't like Hype. You can get those speeds but if it takes
longer then 1 minute then almost any car in the same caliber can do it.
Who cares.

I already posted my speed in my A3. I have an Autotech chip so it went past
the limit of 118. The funny part was that I was pacing a stock Mustang which
must have been a 6 banger with a limiter. The stang was taunting me at 80
when I backed off and let him forget about me. We were going on 78 West in
NJ and it was night time. He slowed down so I wouldn't lose him. After a
few minutes of staying back pretending I was driving normal I went left to his
blind side and hung out of a short. He didn't notice me creeping up and then
at a good straight I floored it past him. He immediately was on my ass but
he could not pass. I was losing him at 125 and as I slowed down to get off
an exit he was screaming at me with his window closed while I was looking
at him and his stang.

Cars do go better at night with the clear air and oxygen.

Spam Sucks

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Spam Sucks

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In article <6onkc6$6q$1...@uwm.edu>, Eric Ansay <eric...@csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
>I have discs all the way around...I have upgraded the pads and as of now
>haven't had a problem with braking. I live in Wisconsin -- we have a
>stretch of freeway from Milwaukee to Chicago where the cops never seem to be
>there, and a freeway bridge that ends (after about 3-4 miles of straightaway
>with nowhere for the cops to hang out at). Racing 0-60 gets pretty
>boring--it's always neat to watch the "muscle cars" that can't make it at
>top speed.

I also have discs on all wheels. The 93-94 was what they call a bridge car.
They put discs all the way around. The 95s and up have drums in the back.

Your location is helps with testing speed so your pretty lucky there. :o)

I agree with the muscle cars. Ever been in one at high speeds? You know
what I mean, a big box floating on ballons just waiting to hit the rail.
Forget about turning at high speeds in a big muscle box...

:o)

jimjb

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Spammy,
Ok, yeah right going south on the NE Ext or any road means downhill. Yes,
the car was stock at the time of the run.

>>Flat or downhill, if there is any hint of incline, forget
it with the 4 cyl reaching anything abnormal.<<

What's with you man, where do you get the idea that a 4 cylinder will not
achieve these speeds.? We drove a Peugeot 403 on the Autobahn at 90 in the
1970's. We're not talking timed runs, drag racing etc... Just top speed. If
these speedo's are so inaccurate, maybe I was really going 151 or so. Maybe
my car dreamed it was a McLaren Mercedes leaving the SchuMan in the dust.

Speedo comments....Maybe, maybe not that significant. You're right about the
speed limiter... And using the rpm to calc the speed is the way to go.

>>No tude, I just don't like Hype. You can get those speeds but if it takes
longer then 1 minute then almost any car in the same caliber can do it.
Who cares. <<

You're right who cares? The thread just started out by requesting top speed.
We weren't interested in competing with other cars. Don't start with the
caliber!
No one in their right mind buys a VW for top speed or 0-60 times. They're
respectable, affordable German cars. Despite what you think, after having
lived in VWland and driven there, I'm confident while driving my VW. No not
at 120 for extended periods, but at higher speeds than most US drivers would
consider.


Jim

Richard Dowdell

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I think I have a way around the speedo error. If you can find one of those
timing/mileage markers on the highway that is exactly one mile, you can find the
error at 60 mph. Since the mechanical linkage ina 5 sp. should not allow for
much slippage, find the rpm's at your top speed and convert it based on the rpm's
at 60 mph. Do you think this will work?


Spam Sucks

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In article <6ool3q$las$1...@news1.fast.net>, jimjb <ji...@spamfreefast.net> wrote:
>
>You're right who cares? The thread just started out by requesting top speed.
>We weren't interested in competing with other cars. Don't start with the
>caliber!
>No one in their right mind buys a VW for top speed or 0-60 times. They're
>respectable, affordable German cars. Despite what you think, after having
>lived in VWland and driven there, I'm confident while driving my VW. No not
>at 120 for extended periods, but at higher speeds than most US drivers would
>consider.
>
>
>Jim
>
Jim, look at it this way. I was in a 1998 Buick LeSabre rent-a-beater and the
speedo only goes to 100MPH. The weight of the car made it cruise but it still
was all over the road compared to the VW. Weight has its advantages once you
are in motion and takes less gas to keep it going but the lighter cars like
the VW you have to have the peddle down :(. I also noticed my VW has more
pep at the start then the 8 cyl Buick. It felt like it anyway, since isn't
as heavy and the gearing is more like a sport car.

Zigfreid Von Shrink

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On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 22:06:39 GMT, nos...@zero.com (Spam Sucks) wrote:

>In article <6ool3q$las$1...@news1.fast.net>, jimjb <ji...@spamfreefast.net> wrote:

>Jim, look at it this way. I was in a 1998 Buick LeSabre rent-a-beater and the

>speedo only goes to 100MPH. <SNIP> I also noticed my VW has more


>pep at the start then the 8 cyl Buick.

Buick LeSabre = 3.8L V6


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Steve Dreskin

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I would like to put this discussion to rest. Under it's own power on and a
level grade, the A3 2.0L volkswagen (at least me '95 Cabrio with OBDI) can
go 118 mph - no faster due to a speed governor. And, yes, it absolutely
does have one.

I went to the source on this one to find out for sure - I asked Garrett
Lim, who is one of the chip programmers par excellence and knows these
things inside and out. This was my question to him:

Q. "There has been some discussion on the VW List about the top
speed of an A3 2.0L. My understanding that the top speed was 118 mph. To
your knowledge, did either the OBDI or OBDII cars have a speed limiter?


A. The speed limiter has been killed my me [on my chips]. Only the 92
corrado and some 16v 2.0L did not have a speed limter."

Spam Sucks <nos...@zero.com> wrote in article
<Iwxq1.22$tb5.2...@nntp1.nac.net>...


> In article <6o6lj8$il1$1...@news1.fast.net>, jimjb <ji...@spamfreefast.net>
wrote:
> > No optimism here. 120 mph and more pedal to go. I have rev limited,
but
> >not speed limited yet. I occasionally run this A3 8v 80-110 mph, but
have
> >had the car up to 120. This car will easily top 130. It is a German car
and
> >can be driven with confidence.
> >
> >Jim
> >
> Oh yea easily 130 with the Goodyear tires that come with the 14" rims.
Real safe
> and with confidence. You will of course need at least a 2 mile steep
decline to
> wind out with no other traffic in your way.
>

Samuel Shimp

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What is the top speed of a 91 Jetta with a 2.0 16valve?

Thanx,
Samuel


Roccet

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i have a 2.0l actually 2.1l 16v passat it has gotten it up to 132mph on the
race track at P.I.R Portland international raceway. not stock of course .
exhaust, chip, bored , polished etc.

RKrytusa

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Jul 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/23/98
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>What is the top speed of a 91 Jetta with a 2.0 16valve?

I've got a '91 GLI that has been up to 115 before I backed out for a radar trap
on the Thruway. It was stock at the time.
going to Watkins Glen next week (can't wait!)
I'll let you know!
wolfie

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