VW Electical Contact Enhancer
ZUMBRENNEN JOSEPH CORY
Hi all,
In responce to someone's trouble with a poor idle, or slow
acceleration or something (I can't find the article) someone suggested
using a electrical contact enhancer that was available from VW and had
a VW part # on the can. Does anyone know what this part # is? If this
stuff exists it would be a godsend for both my Motronic and Digicrap.
Needless to say my dealer has never heard of this...but I don't think
they get out much down there. TIA.
Cory
'91 GLI
'86 Westfalia
Brad Sheridan
I don't know about a VW one, I have been using cramolin(I think thats what
its called) on mine for the past year or two. Its a copper paste, and seems
to work well so far. I got it at an electronics supply place, it should be
fairly easy to get.
Brad
Walter R. Quitt
br...@SPAMTHISmindspring.com (Brad Sheridan) wrote:
>Brad
The contact enhancer is called something like: Stabilant 22.
It is made in Canada and is VERY expensive. It is a clear
liquid that coats the contacts. I got some and as soon as
I find it, post more about iit. This IS the stuff VW uses (my
Service Manager buddy told me so and showed me before
I got mine.)
Walt....
James P. Meyer
On 6 Jun 1997, ZUMBRENNEN JOSEPH CORY wrote:
> Hi all,
> In responce to someone's trouble with a poor idle, or slow
> acceleration or something (I can't find the article) someone suggested
> using a electrical contact enhancer that was available from VW and had
> a VW part # on the can. Does anyone know what this part # is? If this
> stuff exists it would be a godsend for both my Motronic and Digicrap.
If you can't find anything else, WD-40 is almost as good as any
special purpose electrical contact enhancer that I've ever tried. WD-40
won't hurt the contacts or prevent anything else from being used later if
you do find the "real" stuff. You may not even need the real stuff after
you try WD-40, the wonder of the ages. It's rumored that the Egyptians
used it to get those 40 ton blocks of stone up on the pyramids. 8-)
Jim
ZUMBRENNEN JOSEPH CORY
wa6fec@**Anti-Spam**sd.znet.com (Walter R. Quitt) writes:
>br...@SPAMTHISmindspring.com (Brad Sheridan) wrote:
>>On 6 Jun 97 10:01:55 GMT, ZUMBRENNEN JOSEPH CORY <zumb...@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> wrote:
>>>Hi all,
>>> In responce to someone's trouble with a poor idle, or slow
>>>acceleration or something (I can't find the article) someone suggested
>>>using a electrical contact enhancer that was available from VW and had
>>>a VW part # on the can. Does anyone know what this part # is? If this
>>>stuff exists it would be a godsend for both my Motronic and Digicrap.
>>>Needless to say my dealer has never heard of this...but I don't think
>>>they get out much down there. TIA.
>>I don't know about a VW one, I have been using cramolin(I think thats what
>>its called) on mine for the past year or two. Its a copper paste, and seems
>>to work well so far. I got it at an electronics supply place, it should be
>>fairly easy to get.
>>Brad
>The contact enhancer is called something like: Stabilant 22.
>It is made in Canada and is VERY expensive. It is a clear
>liquid that coats the contacts. I got some and as soon as
>I find it, post more about iit. This IS the stuff VW uses (my
>Service Manager buddy told me so and showed me before
>I got mine.)
>Walt....
All right Walt!! Where did you get it from? No one around here beleives
that there is such a thing as electrical contact enhancer. My local VW
dealer actually told me not to believe what I read on the internet! HA!!
Where do the find these people? I guess all the intelligent, fun,
interesting people own VW's, while all the idiots sell them;)
Walter R. Quitt
As soon as I "find" the stuff again, I will let all know
where in Canada it came from. I had it in my hands the
other day as I was cleaning out my second storage
garage. It was there along with its International
Hazardous Material Paperwork. The Paperwork
being more of a hassle than getting the stuff!
Let y'all know soon....
Walt.....
Bruce Macleod
Cory,
The stuff really does exist. Your dealer would know this if he read his
service bulletins! It is made by:
D.W. Electrochemicals Ltd
97 Newkirk Rd. North, Unit 3
Richmond Hill, Ontario
Canada L4C 3G4
It does help ;-), but is $$$ ;-((
Hope this helps.
Bruce
DARRAHG
I did not see the original post as to what contacts you are referring but,
I use two components on my cars to increase electrical conductivity in
electrical connections. The first is a dielectric greese that can be
purchased from auto parts dealers ($15-20.00 a tube; HI-LO for example).
The second is a copper based compound that not only increases conductivity
but also reduces corrosion. It is a product from Eastwood Corporation
called Kopr-Shield ($8.00). For what it's worth...
Walter R. Quitt
YUP that's the address I dug up too.
Price as of a couple of years ago:
15ml (Service kit) $24
50ml $50
100ml $91
15ml Concentrate $68.50 (the size I got)
50ml Concentrate $205
100ml Concentrate $364
Ain't cheap, but it does work.....
Walt....
ZUMBRENNEN JOSEPH CORY
wa6fec@**Anti-Spam**sd.znet.com (Walter R. Quitt) writes:
Thnaks for the help everyone. So Bruce and Walt, how did you get a hold of
this stuff? Did you write them a letter? Or does one of you have a phone
number? It doesn't exactly sound like a company that would have a website,
or do much avertising. So short of sending a letter I'm at a loss. I
guess I could can Ontario's directory assistance...that would probably be
a good adventure! Thanks again.
Walter R. Quitt
James P. Meyer
On 7 Jun 1997, ZUMBRENNEN JOSEPH CORY wrote:
> >The contact enhancer is called something like: Stabilant 22.
> >Walt....
>
> All right Walt!! Where did you get it from? No one around here beleives
> that there is such a thing as electrical contact enhancer.
I have seen Stabilant advertised for use on Hi-Fi system plugs
and sockets. You might try looking in some local up-scale stereo shops
near you. It may be the same stuff sold under the name "Tweek".
Make sure you take out a loan before go. The price is something
like fifty bucks for a quarter of an ounce. Most folks apply the stuff
with a toothpick and keep the bottle locked in a safe when they're not
using it. 8-)
Jim
Bruce Macleod
ZUMBRENNEN JOSEPH CORY wrote:
>
> wa6fec@**Anti-Spam**sd.znet.com (Walter R. Quitt) writes:
>
> Thnaks for the help everyone. So Bruce and Walt, how did you get a hold of
> this stuff? Did you write them a letter? Or does one of you have a phone
> number? It doesn't exactly sound like a company that would have a website,
> or do much avertising. So short of sending a letter I'm at a loss. I
> guess I could can Ontario's directory assistance...that would probably be
> a good adventure! Thanks again.
>
> Cory
> '91 GLI
> '86 Westfalia
>
Some electronics suppliers in the S.F. Bay area have it > I'd check
similar outlets in Denver.
Bruce
William Maslin
In article <zumbrenn....@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>,
zumb...@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ZUMBRENNEN JOSEPH CORY) wrote:
> Hi all,
> In responce to someone's trouble with a poor idle, or slow
> acceleration or something (I can't find the article) someone suggested
> using a electrical contact enhancer that was available from VW and had
> a VW part # on the can. Does anyone know what this part # is? If this
> stuff exists it would be a godsend for both my Motronic and Digicrap.
> Needless to say my dealer has never heard of this...but I don't think
> they get out much down there. TIA.
>
...much good advice omitted for brevity...
Yet another contact enchancer, and widely used in electronics repair, is
DeoxIt and PreservIt made by Caig. I believe this is the stuff formerly
know as Cramolin. It's much less expensive than Stabilant. You can order
it from MCM Electronics.
Walter R. Quitt
We have that Cramolin stuff in the Customer Service area at wotk.
It does not do the same as the Stabilent. What you refer to cleans
and then puts some goo on. The stabilent is actually slightly
conductive (YES, It WILL change the capacitance of a system)
It is a "Contact enhancer (cuz it conducts)" And kinda acts
like galvanzing does as being scrafical. They sent lots of
app notes with the stuff when I got it. Seems to do the job
of keeping the corrosion away and not increasing the
resistance of the connection like the slimmy goo stuff
does.
GL,
Walt....
Jeff Nibler
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Jeff Nibler
1983 G60 GTI
ZUMBRENNEN JOSEPH CORY <zumb...@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> wrote in article
<zumbrenn....@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>...
> Hi all,
> In responce to someone's trouble with a poor idle, or slow
> acceleration or something (I can't find the article) someone suggested
> using a electrical contact enhancer that was available from VW and had
> a VW part # on the can. Does anyone know what this part # is? If this
> stuff exists it would be a godsend for both my Motronic and Digicrap.
> Needless to say my dealer has never heard of this...but I don't think
> they get out much down there. TIA.
>
> Cory
> '91 GLI
> '86 Westfalia
>
>
Your answer has arrived. I work at a VW dealership and have used this
stuff myself. Works great. It's called Stabilant 22A and the VW part
number is: ZVW-186-001. It is actually called stabilant and most major car
manufacturers use and reccomend it's use. It is expensive, the dealer buys
it in 15mL bottles for about $30. The name of the company is called:
D.W. Electrochemicals Ltd
97 Newkirk Road North, Unit 3
Richmond Hill, Ont. Canada L4C 3G4
If you order a bigger bottle directly from them, you can get a lot more
and a better deal, like 10 times the amount ffor $60 or something. Hope
this helps.
Walter R. Quitt
The stuff the dealer gets is diluted. You want
the concentrate and dilute it yourself.
Walt.....
Scott McGinn
Jeff Nibler wrote:
** some snips **
>
> Your answer has arrived. I work at a VW dealership and have used this
> stuff myself. Works great. It's called Stabilant 22A and the VW part
> number is: ZVW-186-001. It is actually called stabilant and most major car
> manufacturers use and reccomend it's use. It is expensive, the dealer buys
> it in 15mL bottles for about $30. The name of the company is called:
> D.W. Electrochemicals Ltd
> 97 Newkirk Road North, Unit 3
> Richmond Hill, Ont. Canada L4C 3G4
> If you order a bigger bottle directly from them, you can get a lot more
> and a better deal, like 10 times the amount ffor $60 or something. Hope
> this helps.
Funny, even though there's a VW TSB on the use of Stabilant 22A on
electrical connectors, one of my local dealers knew nothing about it...
I've used Cramolin with good success -- it's available at high-end
audio stores or good electronics parts stores (i.e. not Radio Shack).
As someone else has posted, Stabilant 22A is also known as "Tweek"
and also can sometimes be found at high-end audio stores.
A piece of trivia: I'm pretty sure D.W. Electrochemicals is what
became of Dayton-Wright, who used to make some really *mean*
electrostatic loudspeakers that where filled with a dielectric
gas!
Cheers;
Scott
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On Mon, 09 Jun 1997 12:54:11 -0500, mas...@cvm.msstate.edu (William Maslin)
wrote:
>In article <zumbrenn....@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>,
>zumb...@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ZUMBRENNEN JOSEPH CORY) wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> In responce to someone's trouble with a poor idle, or slow
>> acceleration or something (I can't find the article) someone suggested
>> using a electrical contact enhancer that was available from VW and had
>> a VW part # on the can. Does anyone know what this part # is? If this
>> stuff exists it would be a godsend for both my Motronic and Digicrap.
>> Needless to say my dealer has never heard of this...but I don't think
>> they get out much down there. TIA.
>>
>...much good advice omitted for brevity...
>
>Yet another contact enchancer, and widely used in electronics repair, is
>DeoxIt and PreservIt made by Caig. I believe this is the stuff formerly
>know as Cramolin. It's much less expensive than Stabilant. You can order
>it from MCM Electronics.
>
>Bill
>mas...@cvm.msstate.edu
I had to put a transmission in my daughter's 86 GTI. After I got it all back
together the starter wouldn't turn. After much checking I moved the ground wire
from the transmission mount to one of the bolts that hold the transmission mount
to the frame of the car and it started fine.
So?? Well, before the operation the car was a bear to start. Crank, crank,
crank. Slow acceleration. After moving the ground wire, the thing starts at
the first hint of turning the key, the acceleration is back to normal, and
overall runs much better. (BTW, the original ground connection was clean.
Tried that early in the Huh? stages of trying to get the starter to work.)
Another thing. When she first got the car it made the noise of a too tight
timing belt. I adjusted it (it was too tight) but the noise is still there.
Could the belt be worn from over tightening such that it will make this noise
now no matter how it is adjusted??
AkiSasaki
Have anyone tried the electric contact enhancer Griot's Garage sells? At
$15 a can, it seems pretty inexpensive compared to the VW dealer stuff..
Akira
DARRAHG
I had a similar problem with ground wires on my '81. Lately others have
been mentioning that their gound wires were causing probs. even though
they looked normal. Apparently corrosion builds up in the wire and turns
them into resistors (they gain resistance). My problem was that my alt
wire, even though it was connected properly and 'looked' normal, was not
enough. I had to install another much larger ground cable from the alt.
case to the engine block before I could get the alt. to charge the battery
enough to keep it from eventually going dead.
If the timing belt covers are off when you hear the noise then I would ask
if the idler was replaced. If not replace it. I replace my timing belt
at 55,000 on all my cars.
Many times noise will be made from the belt rubbing the lower cover. I
get the impression from your writing that this is not the case though.
Good Luck!