VW Factory CD Changer - Wiring Diagram?
Kevin Gibbons kgibbons.com>
I picked up a factory VW 6-CD changer (Model # 1J6 035 111) on Ebay
this week for my 2004 Jetta, and wouldn't you know the thing is dead
when I hooked it up to the car. Absolutely no power at all to eject
the cd magazine -- and I did try the wiring harness connected in both
positions (since it's not really keyed to the position it needs to be
in - but the wires are numbered).
I also tried the unit when the car was both started and turned off.
Still no power to the unit either way -- so I'm convinced the unit is
dead.
So, when I got the unit back in the house, I noticed the shrink tubing
was kind of lumpy where the wires separate out of the wiring trunk.
So I carefully slit the shrink tubing off to reveal the connections
underneath -- and I think I found my problem. It looks like somebody
has been screwing around with the wiring, because this certainly
doesn't look like factory work.
I took two pictures with my digital camera, here are the links:
http://www.kgibbons.com/ebay/changer/01.jpg
http://www.kgibbons.com/ebay/changer/02.jpg
Coming out of the wiring trunk itself, it looks like I have the
following wires:
blue
grey
yellow
green
brown
2 thick black wires
orange wire wrapped in copper braid
thin black wire wrapped in copper braid
I have no idea why, but if you look at the pictures they have the two
thick black wires exposed and touching right before they terminate
into the wiring harness (look at the clear plastic shrink tubing).
And it would definitely seem like these are the power wires.
And then with the two copper braid shielded wires, they have them
rigged up and making multiple connections as well. So it's just an
ugly scene all the way with this thing.
I would have no problem re-wiring this harness if I had some idea what
the wiring is supposed to look like. But with the ugly state of
affairs with this changer right now, I'm really flying blind.
Can anyone possibly point me in the direction of a wiring diagram for
the VW CD changer? A graphical layout would be great, but I'll take
anything I can get right now - so a write-up on the wiring is fine too
:)
I may spend the time re-wiring this harness only to have the unit be
dead anyway.. but at least I will have tried.
Any help on this is greatly apprecaited!
KG
Woodchuck
"Kevin Gibbons kgibbons.com>" <kevin@<NOSPAM> wrote in message
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Rob Guenther
changer?
That looks aweful, you should never see wiring like that from the factory,
Germans are fanatical about wiring neatness, at least in their industrial
facilities... i'd imagine it carries to their cars... at least i'd hope.
If this is coming from your 2004 Jetta... bring the car back for a repair...
If its from the CD player, buy a new cable.
Another possibility, is the cable connected to the back of your headunit?
"Kevin Gibbons kgibbons.com>" <kevin@<NOSPAM> wrote in message
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Kevin Gibbons kgibbons.com>
picked up on Ebay -- not on the vehicle side :) From looking at the
splices again, there's no doubt that this unit had to be messed with
by somebody that didn't know a soldering iron from a 9-iron.
I'm still looking around on some of the VW forums to see if I can get
a direct wiring layout for this harness... but no such luck yet.
Lastly.. you mentioned "is the cable connected to the back of your
headunit"? -- and you know what, I hadn't even thought of that before!
I just assumed that the CD changer cable would automatically be
connected all the way up to the head unit (and attached) to make it
easy on the VW dealerships when it came to installing these changers.
Can anyone verify if the CD changer wire does come UNATTACHED to the
back of the head unit?
I can't even verify this one for myself, because I don't have the
proper tool to pull the factory head unit out of the dash.
Kevin Gibbons kgibbons.com>
:) Either that, or if somebody would be so kind as to look at a CD
changer they might have laying around and to read me off the wiring
diagram matched up to which pin on the connector, that would be all I
need.
But you're right... another great Ebay deal for sure! lol
Woodchuck
"Rob Guenther" <robertg...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Rob Guenther
not sure about their cars... Don't think they are as good as the Germans,
but never know how "ghetto" they could be, behind the tape and covers....
But come on, it's a cable, any country should be able to make it better then
that.
I'd goto a VW dealer and order a replacement cable, should be 10-20 bucks.
As far as if it is connected to the back of the headunit... I think it is
"Woodchuck" <stv_e...@yahoo.comXXX> wrote in message
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x
>
> Well I'm sure this wiring diagram has to be somewhere around the web
> :) Either that, or if somebody would be so kind as to look at a CD
> changer they might have laying around and to read me off the wiring
> diagram matched up to which pin on the connector, that would be all I
> need.
>
> But you're right... another great Ebay deal for sure! lol
>
> >
Bummer. I just bought a new OEM 6-disk changer (panasonic) from ebay
that was pristine and worked flawlessly out of the box...for about half
of what our freindly VW dealer wants. His auction claims full warranty,
etc, and his feedback indicates some folks have worked succsessfully
with him on returns:
Check out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50556&item=5704819383
Of course, if you bought from this guy and can't get any relief.
Unfortunately, the car is out of town on a road trip that I didn't get
invited on...
Kevin Gibbons kgibbons.com>
purchasing yet ANOTHER cd changer from another seller on Ebay. And
would you believe, this one does NOT work in my vehicle either!
So I finally got fed up and called my local VW dealership and asked
the service dept if there was possibly a fuse missing, or something
that was a quick fix. And the service manager told me that you have
to "program" some Monsoon head units to recognize the addition of the
CD changer. But of course wouldn't give me any information on how to
actually do this "programming" - because they want to make the $$$ on
the service call.
Does anyone know if this guy's blowing hot air, or if this truly is a
procedure they do? And if so, is this something a VW owner would be
able to do on their own?
Again, any help is greatly appreciated...
KG
dave
>purchasing yet ANOTHER cd changer from another seller on Ebay. And
>would you believe, this one does NOT work in my vehicle either!
>
>So I finally got fed up and called my local VW dealership and asked
>the service dept if there was possibly a fuse missing, or something
>that was a quick fix. And the service manager told me that you have
>to "program" some Monsoon head units to recognize the addition of the
>CD changer. But of course wouldn't give me any information on how to
>actually do this "programming" - because they want to make the $$$ on
>the service call.
>
>Does anyone know if this guy's blowing hot air, or if this truly is a
>procedure they do? And if so, is this something a VW owner would be
>able to do on their own?
>
>Again, any help is greatly appreciated...
>
>KG
>
AFAIK you need a tool like Ross-tech.com
Find someone close to you with the tool and maybe for a small donation you can
reprogram the radio system. :-)
Look here:
http://www.steve-hall.com/cgi-bin/VAG-Locator.pl
Have a safe one!
later,
dave
Reminder........
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way,
when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them, and you have their
shoes. Frieda Norris
Woodchuck
work as soon as it was plugged in. The new ones from VW work immediately
out-of-the-box. Coding the radio just matches the radio & CD, but honestly I
never noticed any difference. As for EBay it's a great place to DUMP junk
and make cash!
"Kevin Gibbons kgibbons.com>" <kevin@<NOSPAM> wrote in message
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Jo Bo
unit working. The maker of the cd changer finally sent him a reprogrammed unit
and it worked. (third one).
JoBo
"Kevin Gibbons kgibbons.com>" <kevin@<NOSPAM> wrote in message
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JeffN
adapter. It plugged right in and worked fine without any programming.
"Jo Bo" <jro...@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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Kevin Gibbons kgibbons.com>
a SECOND changer unit as I had mentioned in my follow-up. And neither
the 1st or 2nd unit work -- so I'm quite convinced it's not the
changers.
I spoke to two different VW dealers and told them of my problem. And
both actually do claim the car needs to be hooked up to the diagnostic
and "programmed" to recognize the changer. The dealership where I
bought the car offered to do it for me for free -- but the problem is
I live about 1hr from them. So I'm going to have to schedule a paid
service call to my local dealership -- which shouldn't be too terribly
bad. They claim it's only a $35 fee.
So I'll keep the thread updated after my service call on the 20th....
Kevin