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Daryn Edwards

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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Anyone know what made the the 91 jetta a 'carat'?

Unknown

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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The Jetta Carat was a fully loaded package, it has power everything
with very few options. The car has 4 wheel disk brakes and sway bars
at both ends. Some of the differences between the other jetta models
was the use of rear seat head rests and special paint colours. This
car is basically a luxury Jetta. My 1986 Jetta has the same powertrain
as the 1986 GTI but the 1991 used a regular motor and may or may not
have a close ratio transmission. The Carat badge was also used on some
european VW's like the Vanagon.

Cheers, Dennis

USER

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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It was imported in Canada, but not in the USA, I think.


Matt B.

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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Yes - the US got them too. Ours had the 105hp engine, unless it was a
California car where it might have gotten the 100hp one.

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Hoo Doo666

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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>It was imported in Canada, but not in the USA, I think.

I've seen quite a few Carats. I even know an owner, so... since I live in the
US.. I'm ASSuming they were imported here too.
-andrew-
'89 16v GTi

jr...@fast.net.nospam

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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my mexican-built 91 carat has rear drums..

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Kevin Thomas

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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In article <slrn7aqdt4...@opus.expnet.net>, jr...@fast.net.NOSPAM
() wrote:

> In article <36acb37b...@news.axion.net>, Dennis wrote:
> >The Jetta Carat was a fully loaded package, it has power everything
> >with very few options. The car has 4 wheel disk brakes and sway bars
> >at both ends. Some of the differences between the other jetta models
> >was the use of rear seat head rests and special paint colours. This
> >car is basically a luxury Jetta. My 1986 Jetta has the same powertrain
> >as the 1986 GTI but the 1991 used a regular motor and may or may not
> >have a close ratio transmission. The Carat badge was also used on some
> >european VW's like the Vanagon.
> >
> >Cheers, Dennis
>
> my mexican-built 91 carat has rear drums..

Only the earlier carats had all of the extra options. In 1989 (I think) VW
took out most of the extras in order to lower the cost. They did that
throughout the model line at the same time.

Kevin

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Kris Rayner

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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Eh, what? I just worked on a '90 Carat this past weekend it seemed to
actually be a stripped version. It had A/C, but manual windows, rear
drums, and the front discs were NOT center ventilated.
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John Fracisco

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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I had an '88 Jetta Carat and it had all of the options mentioned
previously (sunroof, power everything, central locking, rear headrests,
front sport seats, leather wrapped wheel/brake handle/shift knob, 6
speaker stereo, 16V suspension, etc.). It was that lovely green-gray
color that was also seen on Saabs of the era.

John Fracisco

Ted L.

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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>>It was imported in Canada, but not in the USA, I think.
Wrong! I live in the US. See my signature.
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1991 Jetta Carat: White, THAT.. was interesting!!
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Ben Fernandez

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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Rear seat headrests are one item...


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Ted L.

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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My US Carat does not have "4 wheel disk brakes", but it sure does have
the BIGGER 105 hp engine, not the small one, CLOSE RATIO TRANSMISSION,
and swaybars front and rear (standard on all <90.5> Jettas). NO! MFA
NO! HEATED SEATS. Just to clear up the misuderstandings, you people, if
you don't know the car inside and out, then DON'T respond to threads. I
am sick and tired of people giving out bad info on such a misunderstood
car like the CARAT. Learn something abut the car before you start
telling people bad info. Thanks, people.

Ted L.

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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>>The only "good" Jetta Carat is the 88, the rest
>>weren't anywhere near as fully equipped.
I would have to agree with you there.
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1991 Jetta Carat: THAT.. was interesting!!
1985 GTI: Black, Cali Car (too ? <g>), 156,783 miles and stopped

Randy Walters

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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"Ted L." <ba...@erols.com> wrote:
>My US Carat does not have "4 wheel disk brakes", but it sure does have
>the BIGGER 105 hp engine, not the small one, CLOSE RATIO TRANSMISSION,
>and swaybars front and rear (standard on all <90.5> Jettas). NO! MFA
>NO! HEATED SEATS. Just to clear up the misuderstandings, you people, if
>you don't know the car inside and out, then DON'T respond to threads. I
>am sick and tired of people giving out bad info on such a misunderstood
>car like the CARAT. Learn something abut the car before you start
>telling people bad info. Thanks, people.
> Ted L.
>1991 Jetta Carat

Um, Ted, with all due respect, just because *your* Carat doesn't
have all the goodies doesn't mean the other guys are wrong, because
they are not wrong at all. The Carat designation offers different
items on different years, yours is only one of the trim levels this
model came with, and yours is one of the lesser equipped of the
short-lived Jetta Carat line. The Wolfsburg packages are a similar
story, different years came with different options as standard.
What an 87 has is not the same as what an 89 has, but they're
both still Wolfsburgs. You need to learn about *other* years of
your own model if you want to be an expert and yell at folks :-)
The world doesn't revolve around *your* Carat ya know.... (kidding !)

The 87-88 Jetta Carat was a *fully loaded* luxury version of an
8v Jetta GLi. A gal-pal of mine has an 88 (well, had one) and
i "know it inside and out" cause i usta work on it sometimes
and i drove it many many times. It was a very nice special edition
metallic champagne green and has a nice light green all-cloth
interior. It's a very bitchen Jetta ! I was there when she bought
it in 1987 at Santa Monica Volkswagen in California.

It came from the factory with *every* power option: power windows &
doorlocks, power mirrors, MFA, excellent fully-bolstered sport seats,
rear headrests, leather steering wheel / shift boot / e-brake handle
/ and shift knob, great-sounding premium multi-speaker stereo,
cruise control, Wolfsburg Digifant 105hp engine, dual outlet GLi
exhaust manifold, close ratio GLi transaxle, 4-wheel GLi disks,
full-on GLi sport suspension, and very nice 14x6 Carat alloys.

The 89 Carat lost most of these goodies and most 90 and 91's were
basically pretty GL models with rear drum brakes, flat front seats,
terrible single outlet exhaust manifold but nice paint and rear
headrests. The only "good" Jetta Carat is the 88, the rest

weren't anywhere near as fully equipped.

Randy,
Lover of oddball A2 8v's
85 Golf GTi
86 Jetta GLi


Nick Markou

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 02:33:13 GMT, Rand...@ix.netcom.com (Randy
Walters) wrote:

> It came from the factory with *every* power option: power windows &
>doorlocks, power mirrors, MFA, excellent fully-bolstered sport seats,
>rear headrests, leather steering wheel / shift boot / e-brake handle
>/ and shift knob, great-sounding premium multi-speaker stereo,
>cruise control, Wolfsburg Digifant 105hp engine, dual outlet GLi
>exhaust manifold, close ratio GLi transaxle, 4-wheel GLi disks,
>full-on GLi sport suspension, and very nice 14x6 Carat alloys.

Thats quite a bit like my gone but not forgotten CDN model '86 Carat
(my first VW...sniff...). Only thing that was different was that it
was a CIS-E engine (102hp)...the oddest thing that I found about the
car was that considering it had EVERY power gizmo know to man at the
time, it didn't have a power sunroof (just the crank)...oddly enough
all the features many people go on and on about in the A3s were on
that car...the rear defroster activated the heated mirrors and heated
washer nozzles (that was kinda neat in the middle of january)...heated
seats were great when they weren't broken...etc. etc.

Nick Markou

Kevin Thomas

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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The color was called Jade by VW. That was the color I really wanted, but I
had to settle for the blue one. Other features were alloy wheels, 4 wheel
disk brakes and the trip computer.

Kevin

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Ted L.

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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>>Other features were alloy wheels, 4 wheel
>>disk brakes and the trip computer.
Maybe on a >90.5. No such options on a 1991 Carat. See my sig.
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1991 Jetta Carat: THAT.. was interesting!!
1985 GTI: Black, Cali Car (too Californian <g>), 156,783 miles and

Ted L.

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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No.. they just cheapend out by 1991.. thats all.

Brandon Sommerville

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Jan 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/28/99
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Ted L. wrote:

>My US Carat does not have "4 wheel disk brakes", but it sure does have
>the BIGGER 105 hp engine, not the small one, CLOSE RATIO TRANSMISSION,
>and swaybars front and rear (standard on all <90.5> Jettas). NO! MFA
>NO! HEATED SEATS. Just to clear up the misuderstandings, you people, if
>you don't know the car inside and out, then DON'T respond to threads. I
>am sick and tired of people giving out bad info on such a misunderstood
>car like the CARAT. Learn something abut the car before you start
>telling people bad info. Thanks, people.

I guess my '87 Carat with 4 wheel disks, MFA and heated seats is just
an aberration?
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