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Audi A4, VW Passat Engine Temperature

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Nancy Ratledge

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Aug 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/5/98
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Howdy,

I was considering purchasing an A4 1.8T car or a 4 cylinder Passat. After
taking the Audi on a test drive, I happened to touch the hood. It was hot.
Hot enough were I suspect I could fry an egg. The salesman assured me this
was normal for Audis and the Passat was the same. Please let me know if this
is normal.

A Bientot,
Tom

Jeffrey Leas

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Aug 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/5/98
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My Passat 1.8T quickly warms up to an indicated temp of 190' and stays there no
matter what the driving conditions. The hood and engine compartment do stay hot
for a while after shutting the car down. Given the consistent temp readings I
get, I came to accept this as normal for the car.

Jeff Leas

Keith Bell

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Aug 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/5/98
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In article <6q8hut$k...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, "Nancy Ratledge"
<Thomas....@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> I was considering purchasing an A4 1.8T car or a 4 cylinder Passat. After
> taking the Audi on a test drive, I happened to touch the hood. It was hot.
> Hot enough were I suspect I could fry an egg. The salesman assured me this
> was normal for Audis and the Passat was the same. Please let me know if this
> is normal.

Frying eggs on the hood of a 1.8T is not normal, but could be tasty as
long as the clearcoat doesn't come off into the eggs. I would recommend
using a non-stick cooking spray. Also, scrape the bugs off before you
start cooking or you may get a nasty surprise.

The engines in the A4 and Passat both do run very warm, and there is not
very much clearence between the cams and the hood. A well used
turbocharger, especially, tends to get far past too-hot-to-touch
temperatures.

Both are great cars, and both have proven their reliability even with the
hot-running engines.

-Keith

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Michael Feighney

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Aug 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/5/98
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I owned a 1985 Merkur Xr4Ti with a 2.3 liter turbocharged engine much like
that which will be found on the 1.8T A4 and Passat. Any turbocharged engine
will run very hot. To try and keep the engine cool, I used to run my
air-conditioner all the time (electric fan). Both engine compartments are
packed with hoses, wires and stuff. What I found is that high heat
eventually baked hoses and wires making them brittle. After driving long
distances (2 or 3 hours - highway mileage in the summer), I would have to
pop my hood to help cool down the engine, or the ignition module would not
let me restart the engine as the engine was to hot to safely restart.
Probably cause the gas to burn/explode prematurely. I had to replace my
turbo after 120 Km (90K Miles?).

The only solution would be to add an aftermaket turbo cooler and engine oil
radiator to help dissipate heat. If you still want the turbo, go for the
extend warranty as this will cover the replacement of the turbo and any
other burnt out components. For the price of the warranty you could get the
V6, more power, cooler running, less problems.

I realize the technology has improved, but you can only do so much in such a
confined space. Good Luck.


Keith Bell wrote in message ...

slowcarfasterbike

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Aug 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/6/98
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On Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:18:15 -0400, "Michael Feighney"
<fei...@ibm.net> wrote:
<snip some outdated story about a Merkur>

> If you still want the turbo, go for the
>extend warranty as this will cover the replacement of the turbo and any
>other burnt out components. For the price of the warranty you could get the
>V6, more power, cooler running, less problems.
>

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. Why this rumor persists is beyond me. What
warranty can you purchase beyond that of the factory 10year 100,000
mile warranty?

I assume you were thinking that the turbo is not covered under the
engine warranty, but I can assure you that it is. On Article 1, page
28 of the service managers Warranty manual, it states clearly that the
turbo is covered.

As for any electrical components that gets fried, there are enough
higher mileage A4 1.8T engines out there, and I have yet to hear of
hoses and wires becoming brittle. No one knows how the 1.8T will do,
of course, but don't bet that your V6 will last any longer. Those of
us with the VR6 are finding the occasional timing chain, head gasket
and other assorted problems that we would not have forseen 5 years
ago.

>I realize the technology has improved, but you can only do so much in such a
>confined space. Good Luck.
>

Probably true. But what happened to your Merkur should have very
little bearing on what might happen to a 1.8Turbo Passat. For one, it
sounds like your merkur might have been fairly old by the time it
reached 90K miles, and age is probably as much a reason for insulation
damage/hoses splitting as anything.


Slowcarfasterbike
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93 Passat GLX, 93 Mazda Miata
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