What the heck is FUKENGRUVEN?

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typhus

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.. as spotted on an imported US-Golf. "FUKENGRUVEN"... Wasn't the
word "Fahrvergnügen" (joy of driving)? The sticker had the pencilman
on it but I can't get the word out of my head.


NE-1?


Julian

DEZLBOY

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typhus <LookIn...@gmx.net>

> .. as spotted on an imported US-Golf. "FUKENGRUVEN"

Ummm....is this a "G" rated news-group?

Say it slowly.....FUK-EN-GRUVEN
As in...FUK-EN-"groovin"

Do we need to draw you a picture?? <g>

Ben Randolph

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its a bunch of hippie *shit*. (excuse me, PSEUDO-hippie shit) expect to
find it next to the grateful dead sticker on the dark blue a2 jetta gl.

or,

its something you expect to see on 'the' frat boy's parentally financed
a4 jetta. again, often accompanied by a grateful dead sticker.

ben randolph
whose band has a song about hippies and jerry garcia...

Brian Watkins

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The person brandishing such sticker obviously enjoys his music while
driving his 'Dub (is there any better place to groove to music?).

Stereotyping people according to the stickers on their ride makes no
sense. I guess since I have a Dead sticker on the cars *I* *own* (not
my parents), I should have long hair, smoke pot, and have no job. Oops.
Wrong on all counts.

Brian - who never belonged to a fraternity
'96 GTI VR6 - which drives best with 4/4/85 I
'77 Westfalia - which drives best with 4/12/78 II

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>>its something you expect to see on 'the' frat boy's parentally financed
>>a4 jetta.

that and "FARFRUMPUKIN" : )

n8 Affleck

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it's a band too.....

On Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:49:32 +0200, "typhus" <LookIn...@gmx.net>
wrote:

>.. as spotted on an imported US-Golf. "FUKENGRUVEN"... Wasn't the
>word "Fahrvergnügen" (joy of driving)? The sticker had the pencilman
>on it but I can't get the word out of my head.
>
>

>NE-1?
>
>
>Julian


Mark Conlin

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> > its something you expect to see on 'the' frat boy's

Yeah frat boys are all evil.
They all get stuff from there parents and drink beer all day.
Oh, don't forget they date rape and cheat too.

It's just a sticker, and as stupid as you may think it is
it says nothing about a person that has it.

Mark

Marshall Willenholley

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Brian Watkins wrote in message <7o73pm$m53$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...

>The person brandishing such sticker obviously enjoys his music while
>driving his 'Dub (is there any better place to groove to music?).
>
>Stereotyping people according to the stickers on their ride makes no
>sense. I guess since I have a Dead sticker on the cars *I* *own* (not
>my parents), I should have long hair, smoke pot, and have no job.
Oops.
>Wrong on all counts.
>
>Brian - who never belonged to a fraternity
>'96 GTI VR6 - which drives best with 4/4/85 I

The show before my first show. Brings back memories.

I too never fit the sterotype or felt the need to fit the look, just
liked the music.

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Marshall Willenholley
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typhus

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"DEZLBOY" (DEZLBOY*spam*@radix.net) writes:

>> .. as spotted on an imported US-Golf. "FUKENGRUVEN"
>

> Ummm....is this a "G" rated news-group? Say it
> slowly.....FUK-EN-GRUVEN
> As in...FUK-EN-"groovin"
> Do we need to draw you a picture?? <g>

I'm a dumbass. I should have thought of that.

Btt... Man, that is W-E-A-K.


Julian

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8 weeks!)

vwgirl

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Mark Conlin <Mark....@bridge.bellsouth.com> wrote in message
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I agree, it's just a sticker like any other sticker.

Ben Randolph

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> Stereotyping people according to the stickers on their ride makes no
> sense.

stereotypes dont come out of thin air, my friend. thats not the point
though.
the sticker is almost always next to the dead sticker, which as i
pointed out, it hippie *shit*.

dont like it? i dont care.

> I guess since I have a Dead sticker on the cars *I* *own* (not
> my parents), I should have long hair, smoke pot, and have no job. Oops.
> Wrong on all counts.

no, because you have grateful dead stickers you felt personally
offended. i dont like the dead; i think they suck. their music sucks,
and ill say it sucks, because i think it sucks. i think hippies suck,
and ill say that too. i live on the end of town with 90% of the
psuedo-hippies that go to school here. trust me, they suck. defend em
all you want, but a hippie is still a hippie.

and that hippie will most likely suck.

oh, and frat boys suck too, but thats another story. as far as whatever
that one guy said about them, its pretty much all true. you should see
all the rules and regulations against frats at my school. know why the
university made all those rules? cause frats suck. too much alcohol,
too much promiscuity, too much disturbance and disorderly conduct.

its funny how people get their panties all in a bunch when someone says
whats on their mind.

ben randolph

Team Degenerate

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My favorite spoof on the original is a sticker on saw on one of those
slow-a$$ VANGONS
(funny I say that cause I'de love one though)
It was Farfrommovin or similiar

One of my Degeneratewear favorites is Farfromsober - but you've all
surely seen that one.

Farfromworkin,
Bill

Peter Ege

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Ben-
You need help. I don't know what FRAT guy shit on your lunch but give it
up. You are trying to start an argument over the oldest most pathetic
college debate and there is very little validity in your GENERALIZATION.
That is all it is. Grow up.

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Eric

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Peter Ege wrote in message ...

>Ben-
> You need help. I don't know what FRAT guy shit on your lunch but give
it
>up. You are trying to start an argument over the oldest most pathetic
>college debate and there is very little validity in your GENERALIZATION.
>That is all it is. Grow up.


I'm all growed up, but I happen to agree with Ben (uh-oh, world is ending,)
the majority of frat boys I've ever encountered seem to be the one who need
maturity.

His opinion is valid, whether you like it or not. Whether or not it's based
in reality could be argued. Not by me - I've seen frat crap enough to have
a good idea.

Eric

Mark Conlin

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> hippies suck,

> frats suck.

You should put a *most* or *in many cases* with these statements.
The lack of them implies that you think ALL hippies suck or
that ALL frats suck, and that just is not true.

I mean you don't know all the hippies or all the frat boys.

Mark

Ben Randolph

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Peter Ege wrote:
>
> You need help. I don't know what FRAT guy shit on your lunch but give it
> up. You are trying to start an argument over the oldest most pathetic
> college debate and there is very little validity in your GENERALIZATION.
> That is all it is. Grow up.

peter,

get a life. i dont mean to be stepping on anyones toes, but i see i
broke a couple of yours.

i think hippies suck. i think frats suck. i dont care if you or anyone
else feels different. i dont hate them, i dont think they should all be
dead, i dont think they should all move away from me, and i dont even
think that i have any more right to existence than they do. and really,
who the hell am i to tell them how to live their lives?

but that doesnt change the fact that they suck.

i base my opinions on personal, real world decisions. i go the school
which has the largest greek community *anywhere*. ('sides greece, but
thats a different greek) i know what i see. i live in an area where
90% of the people are around me are hippies. i know what i see.

from what i see, i think they suck.

get the point?

small hippie anecdote: the vehicle of choice for the new generation,
pseudo-hippie is none other than an SUV, with a model year larger than
the year of their high school graduation.

that is one of the reasons these hippies suck. if youre gonna be a
hippie, at least have the fuckin balls to be a hippie, not some half ass
wannabe.

strangely enough, the same vehicle classification can be applied to frat
boys.

ben randolph

Brian Watkins

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In article <37A73686...@psu.edu>,

Ben Randolph <bxr...@psu.edu> wrote:
> > Stereotyping people according to the stickers on their ride makes no
> > sense.
>
> stereotypes dont come out of thin air, my friend. thats not the point
> though.
> the sticker is almost always next to the dead sticker, which as i
> pointed out, it hippie *shit*.
>
> dont like it? i dont care.

Hey, it's America. You have every right to say what you like, be an ass,
whatever, I was pointing out the irrational thought of stereotyping.

>
> > I guess since I have a Dead sticker on the cars *I* *own* (not
> > my parents), I should have long hair, smoke pot, and have no job.
Oops.
> > Wrong on all counts.
>
> no, because you have grateful dead stickers you felt personally
> offended. i dont like the dead; i think they suck. their music
sucks,

I wasn't offended. Think what you like. I think you listened to Casey
Jones one too many times and got sick cause you had friends who played
Skeletons in the Closet over and over again. Ever been to a show? Doubt
it. I think if you did, different opinion. Fact is, the man had more
talent than 99% of artists alive. and that's MY opinion and the opinion
of MILLIONS of other people.

> and ill say it sucks, because i think it sucks. i think hippies suck,
> and ill say that too. i live on the end of town with 90% of the
> psuedo-hippies that go to school here. trust me, they suck. defend
em
> all you want, but a hippie is still a hippie.

And your definition is? Someone who listens to the Dead, Phish,
original sounding music which the radios don't play since record
companies don't think it'll sell? Creating your own reality here?

>
> and that hippie will most likely suck.
>
> oh, and frat boys suck too, but thats another story. as far as
whatever
> that one guy said about them, its pretty much all true. you should
see
> all the rules and regulations against frats at my school. know why
the
> university made all those rules? cause frats suck. too much alcohol,
> too much promiscuity, too much disturbance and disorderly conduct.

No. Rules are made to protect the dumbasses from themselves. I knew of a
few fraternities, who actually were responsible people. Another
stereotype cut in shreds.

>
> its funny how people get their panties all in a bunch when someone
says
> whats on their mind.
>
> ben randolph

No. No panties bunched here. It's mind over matter.
I don't mind, cause you don't matter.

Brian

Peter Ege

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Ignorant.. that is probably a better term to explain you. You did not
step on my toes, I have dealt with this kind of thing before. I just want
other people out there to be aware that you are big time generalizing.
I went to UVA where the Greek system is just as large as your school and I
have seen my share of typical frat behavior, hell I lived on teh same street
as many, not in one for the record. But I know , personally, me included as
well as many of my brothers and friends that you are WAY off.

Just to prove it I do not drive a SUV of my graduation year. I happen to
Drive a '99 Jetta, I listen to Grateful from time to time, (might be in my
tape deck right now) have short hair, wear a tie to work, living free from
my parents for years.

Now what does that make me. Not a hippie and a FRAT boy with taste,
class, and a open mind about what makes this world go around. Does that
sound like a stereotypical frat boy? I think not.

Ben Randolph

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Peter Ege wrote:
> Ignorant.. that is probably a better term to explain you.

whatever...call me what you will. im not going to argue with you, and
im not gonna get into a name calling fight. im just tellin it like it
is.

> I have dealt with this kind of thing before. I just want
> other people out there to be aware that you are big time generalizing.

i was pretty sure it was AS PLAIN AS DAY and PRETTY FUCKING OBVIOUS that
i was generalizing. good thing you cleared it up for the rest of the
group, though.

> I went to UVA where the Greek system is just as large as your school

not that im bragging or anything, but i doubt it. PSU has the largest
alumni association and the largest greek system.

and is the most expensive big 10 school....
that sucks too...

i guess i have to start the "We Are..." cheer or something.

> But I know , personally, me included as
> well as many of my brothers and friends that you are WAY off.

how do you know what i know and dont know. whatever dude. i see things
that support my opinion EVERY DAY. not just once a month, not just in
an article every once in a while, not even every weekend. EVERY DAY.

> Just to prove it I do not drive a SUV of my graduation year. I happen to
> Drive a '99 Jetta, I listen to Grateful from time to time,

so thats why you got all defensive. if it will make you feel better and
give you a sense of closure, peter, i will personally apologize to you
for making fun of a4 jettas.

im so sorry.

ben randolph

Matt B.

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typhus wrote in message ...

>.. as spotted on an imported US-Golf. "FUKENGRUVEN"... Wasn't the
>word "Fahrvergnügen" (joy of driving)? The sticker had the pencilman
>on it but I can't get the word out of my head.

Yes - the US ad slogan circa 1990 was Fahrvergnügen but a later bumper
sticker (I have one) did a pun on it and said Fukengrüven and had the
little stick guy in a sort of dancing pose.

BTW - the little stick guy actually has a name - Otto Bahn. :-) Saw
it at the bottom of a VW ad where it was mentioned that VW had a
trademark on it.
--
-Matt
1991 Golf GTI 8v, 122K+ miles and counting...
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Ben Randolph

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Brian Watkins wrote:
>
> Hey, it's America. You have every right to say what you like, be an ass,
> whatever, I was pointing out the irrational thought of stereotyping.

and i was pointing out the fact that stereotypes arent just random
judgments. they are rooted in the truth. true they usually get blown
way out of proportion, but they dont come from nowhere. find me one
classic stereotype in any social, economic, racial, religious, or
nationalistic group that *isnt* rooted in the truth.

> I wasn't offended. Think what you like.

kay. dont hate me if i dont believe you. if you werent truly offended,
the response to me would probably have been something more like this:

--------------------
ben randolph wrote:
> hippies suck. frat boys suck.

dude, you suck. shut up. go away.

brian watkins.
--------------------

im really surprised no one came right out and said, YOU SUCK. i mean,
this is all entertainment (except when we are talking about VW's, then
its part education as well) but think about it...if you were an outsider
reading this thread, and somebody posted something similar to the above,
wouldnt you just piss yourself laughing? im laughing right now cause
its so friggin hilarious. i dont know what i would have done if someone
responded like that. i wouldnt know whether to laugh or go hide in my
closet.

> I think you listened to Casey
> Jones

???
i guess you win that one by default.

> Fact is, the man had more
> talent than 99% of artists alive. and that's MY opinion and the opinion
> of MILLIONS of other people.

i would consider myself an 'artist' to some degree, and i would
certainly agree that JG had lots of talent. that doesnt change the fact
that his music sucks though.

> > a hippie is still a hippie.
>
> And your definition is?

does it matter? i could go on and on about my personal experiences with
hippies, but i know that nothing i say will make you even *consider* my
POV. thats why im not trying to be persuasive. im just stating the
facts.

ill state them again, if anyone missed it:
hippies suck. frat boys suck.

> Someone who listens to the Dead, Phish,
> original sounding music

if that music is so original, why does it all sound the same?

> No. Rules are made to protect the dumbasses from themselves.

exactly. cause they suck, and have no control over themselves. its
really a subtle form of mob mentality.

> I don't mind, cause you don't matter.

thats cute, but if i dont matter, why bother responding?


ben randolph
p.s. im having fun. are you?

Matt B.

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Shot25x25 wrote in message
<19990803201758...@ng-cg1.aol.com>...

>Ben Randolph wrote:
>>i think hippies suck. i think frats suck.
>What, exactly, do they suck?

Oh Christ here we go again. They suck dick. There. That's the
answer you wanted, right?

--
-Matt
1991 Golf GTI 8v, 123K+ miles and counting...

Ben Randolph

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"Matt B." wrote:
>
> Shot25x25 wrote in message


>
> >Ben Randolph wrote:
> >
> > >i think hippies suck. i think frats suck.
> >
> >What, exactly, do they suck?
>
> Oh Christ here we go again. They suck dick. There. That's the
> answer you wanted, right?

i have no idea what their sexual preferences are, and i choose not to
make any incorrect assumptions.

ben randolph

Peter Ege

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Is there anything else in your vocab except for Suck! I have lots of
friends from Penn State and
co-workers, I hope they don't know you because you really "suck". And what
is this EVERDAY
crap you are trying to sell? Did you not get the point that I lived around
frats and was in one. Does
that not count as everyday? Or are you just trying to make you seem like
you are some damn
expert. If you hate them so damn much why the hell are you around them
EVERYDAY? I don't
get you. And I was only responding to you to point out that you were being
an ass. I don't care
if you have this belief that all frat boys suck, and your definition (what
ever that is), of hippies suck,
that is fine. I know better, and I can live with myself knowing I am not
you, with these dillusional
images that you are high and mighty above all other people. Enjoy your life
and I hope you never
have to associate with a hippie frat boy, because that just may be to much
for you midget mind to
handle. Go Lions.... yeah! Man i feel sorry my friends are associated
with you, by default of course.

Shot25x25

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This frat boy and Grateful Dead argument is quite amusing. Keep it up. BTW,
I'm a gun-owning, VW driving, Grateful Dead listening, golf-playing, public
serving, person. What the hell does that make me?
Collin
'97 Jetta GLX
I'm all about peace. Let's bring it about via superior firepower.
I had an Acura Legend once...it sucked.
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Shot25x25

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Ben Randolph wrote:

>i think hippies suck. i think frats suck.

What, exactly, do they suck?

Dolimite79

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That was the most sorry ass attempt at a flame I've ever seen in my life.It
should go more like this:
People in fraterneties are fucking sissies that are afraid of the real
world.They are away from mommy and daddy and the feel the need for
acceptance,so they join a frat.The "You can humiliate me all you want just let
me in your club"mentality say's it all.I used to live in a college town and I
would see these losers every year,Pledging,s/b "Pleading" for acceptance by
other losers that think that safety comes in numbers.Frats are for PU55IES
PERIOD.It's like the same reason people start smoking,They start because they
think it looks cool,And they want acceptance.To have a club is one thing if you
have a hobby or something,But for a bunch of people to have a club
for..............What? is pretty lame.It's just a way for losers to make
friends because they can't do it in the real world by themselves.The more I go
on with this flame,The more I realize it too sucks.So let me just end now

Team Degenerate

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Whats up with all the B.O. - man whenever the Phish show comes to town
and all Jerrys kids slide right on in so does the filth.

STINK STINK STINK and Dirty hair - dirty clothes - no shoes walkin
around DOWNTOWN and in Malls/ restaurants????? "
"hey is that chick tan or just freakin dirty?" Hellllooo...

While we're talkin recreation...

Man I think golf is lame..... but golf carts serve well when driven
around the pits/paddock at a RACETRACK.

OTOH Frisbee golf I can go for ;-)

Bill
(sold my one Dead tape for 50 cents at my tag sale)

Ben Rogowski

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>
>> Someone who listens to the Dead, Phish,
>> original sounding music
>
>if that music is so original, why does it all sound the same?
>
So what kind of music do you listen to Ben?

Ben Randolph

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Peter Ege wrote:
>
> Is there anything else in your vocab except for Suck!

i was attempting to use the common literary technique known as
repetition.
i believe it helped me successfully make my point.

> because you really "suck".

sorry dude, someone beat you to that already.

> And what
> is this EVERDAY
> crap you are trying to sell?

??? you mean like girl scout cookies? i, for one, disagree with your
opinion that girl scout cookies are crap. i like the chocolate minty
ones (the ones in the green box) the best. i think *you* suck because
you dont like girl scout cookies.

as far as that 'other' crap im trying to 'sell', i was merely pointing
out the fact that i see new examples of why frat boys suck every single
day i am in town.

> Did you not get the point that I lived around
> frats and was in one.

i thought frat boys werent supposed to use the word "frat"?

> Or are you just trying to make you seem like
> you are some damn expert.

yes. thats exactly what im trying to do. im actually going to write my
thesis on why frat boys suck. people worldwide will use me as a
credible source when they do their own research to expose the suckyness
(or is that suckieness?) of frat boys. i will become legendary.
eventually, when all frat houses are extinct, people will throw
themselves at my feet, proclaiming me the supreme being, and ruler of
all existence.

> If you hate them so damn much why the hell are you around them
> EVERYDAY?

its tough when there are thousands of em'. those little bastards....
theyre just running all over the place like little dogs, licking and
humping everything in sight.

> I don't get you.

i can tell.

> And I was only responding to you to point out that you were being
> an ass.

how thoughtful.

> I don't care if you have this belief that all frat boys suck, and your
> definition (what ever that is), of hippies suck,
> that is fine.

thanks. thats all i ask. really. all i want is for me to be able to
spew out whatever my little heart desires.

> I know better, and I can live with myself knowing I am not
> you, with these dillusional
> images that you are high and mighty above all other people.

now youre just being a silly little frat boy. i believe i have already
made it quite clear that i hold myself no higher than any of the
perpetrators in question. (in this case, hippies and frat boys)

> Enjoy your life

doin my best...

> and I hope you never
> have to associate with a hippie frat boy

<ben wipes the sweat off his forehead>
y..y..y..you mean...such a beast exists?

> Man i feel sorry my friends are associated
> with you, by default of course.

indeed. sucks for them.

ben randolph
still havin a blast...

Ben Randolph

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Team Degenerate wrote:
>
> Man I think golf is lame.

all right you little SOB, thats the last straw. im callin you out.

ben
:-)

Ben Randolph

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Ben Rogowski wrote:
>
> >if that music is so original, why does it all sound the same?
>
> So what kind of music do you listen to Ben?

it doesnt matter.

ben
btw, i have no doubt that it too sounds all the same.

Detroit

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what did you say?farfrummugen
eehh


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crash70

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Team Degenerate wrote in message :

>Whats up with all the B.O. - man whenever the Phish show comes to town
>and all Jerrys kids slide right on in so does the filth.
>
>STINK STINK STINK and Dirty hair - dirty clothes - no shoes walkin
>around DOWNTOWN and in Malls/ restaurants????? "
>"hey is that chick tan or just freakin dirty?" Hellllooo...


No kiddin!! Excessive BO is like cigarette smoke. If someone wants to be
dirty, FINE. But don't make me have to put up with your foul STENCH in
public!!


>While we're talkin recreation...
>
>Man I think golf is lame..... but golf carts serve well when driven
>around the pits/paddock at a RACETRACK.
>
>OTOH Frisbee golf I can go for ;-)


YES!!

I absolutely, completely, HATE golf, and the lifestyle and mindset that goes
along with it. (Country clubs, alcoholism, schmoozing and sucking up to
people with more money, trying to look like you have more money, etc.) Man,
I'm glad I don't work in sales, so I don't have to talk "golf" to people!
DAMN I hate golf!!

(but hey, if some of you like golf, then, well, that's fine with me. Just
expressing my opinion here)

crash70

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Dolimite79 wrote in message:

>That was the most sorry ass attempt at a flame I've ever seen in my life.

YYYEAAHHH!!!

I was thinking the same thing, but you beat me to it, Dolimite!!

Marshall Willenholley

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Congratulations on your brilliant "How to Make it Into as Many Kill
Files as Possible in One Thread" demonstration. Large doses of
inflamatory misinformation, overly strong ignorant opinions, mixed in
with a little "fuck everyone who disagrees" mentality... Brilliant.
That's all I can say. You even started your own little
threadlet/flame war. Well Done.

(The little "it's all for fun" escape clause is a nice touch too.)

--
Marshall Willenholley
To reply, shorten network to net.

Ben Randolph wrote in message <37A76A8E...@psu.edu>...

Peter

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>Congratulations on your brilliant "How to Make it Into as Many Kill
>Files as Possible in One Thread" demonstration.
LOL! You are probably in more fill files than Ben and Dolimite79 combined. : ^
)

>Large doses of inflamatory misinformation, overly strong ignorant >opinions,
mixed in with a little "fuck everyone who disagrees" >mentality...

Fill us in, what mis-information?

Stereotypes exist, because a large percentage of the group fit into it.
I believe that you should be aware of the different stereotypes, but they
should not change how you treat people.
At first I treat people the way I want to be treated, and then I treat them
like they treat me.

Keep in mind that 99% of your DNA is the same as everyone else, and that
includes hippies and frat boys.

>That's all I can say. You even started your own little
>threadlet/flame war. Well Done.
>
>(The little "it's all for fun" escape clause is a nice touch too.)

Fun, fun, fun...
>--
>Marshall Willenholley


>>
>>Brian Watkins wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey, it's America. You have every right to say what you like, be >>>an ass,
whatever, I was pointing out the irrational thought of
>>>stereotyping.
>>
>>and i was pointing out the fact that stereotypes arent just random
>>judgments. they are rooted in the truth. true they usually get
>>blown way out of proportion, but they dont come from nowhere. >>find me one
classic stereotype in any social, economic, racial, >>religious, or
nationalistic group that *isnt* rooted in the truth.

Peter

thesc...@juno.com
1979 Scirocco 16V project; a shell with an '87 electrical harness
1983 Caged Rabbit GTI, 9A & 100mm axles

Marshall Willenholley

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Peter wrote in message
<19990804102817...@ng-cq1.aol.com>...

>Stereotypes exist, because a large percentage of the group fit into
it.
>I believe that you should be aware of the different stereotypes, but
they
>should not change how you treat people.
>At first I treat people the way I want to be treated, and then I
treat them
>like they treat me.
>
>Keep in mind that 99% of your DNA is the same as everyone else, and
that
>includes hippies and frat boys.


Dude, no offense, but what the hell are you trying to say?

Why are you flaming me to agree with me?

Ben Randolph

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Peter wrote:
>
> LOL! You are probably in more fill files than Ben and Dolimite79 combined.

i dunno the guy. course, i dont killfile anyway...
and AFAIK, im not in anyone's killfiles. :-)
that ruthless villain justin may still be, however....

:-)

> Stereotypes exist, because a large percentage of the group fit into it.

someone who understands, finally...

ive been thinking about this one too...how many people here
(specifically white people, with this example) felt almost ashamed after
watching american history X, because a part of you knew that some of the
[skinhead] issues brought up in that movie had some real solid
reasoning? ...and you couldnt believe that you agreed with some of the
things the skinheads were fighting for?

i felt that way at first, but now i realize that i can share opinions
with many different types of people, without being associated with them.
i have no problem saying--admitting--that i agree with some "different"
mentalities. im not a skinhead, im not a racist, and i dont believe in
starting violence. ...but i do understand that everyone in this world
has a different background--a different upbringing--and the way they
arrive and come to terms with their thoughts and feelings, and the way
they act upon those feelings, can be entirely different than how my
thoughts and feelings propagated, and what i do about them, even though
those thoughts and feelings are very similar.

> I believe that you should be aware of the different stereotypes, but they
> should not change how you treat people.
> At first I treat people the way I want to be treated, and then I treat them
> like they treat me.

that is completely different issue here, peter, but i suppose i could
clear many assumptions about me, which probably stem from way too much
improbable cause.

i dont treat "the offenders" any better or worse than i treat everyone
else. unless, of course, theyre assholes....and thats usually the case
with frat boys. its a little different with hippies...they *usually*
dont bother anyone. those hippies dont suck nearly as bad as the ones
that are always demonstrating for this or that. pot, tibet, trees (i.e.
any environmental issues), opposing some sort of construction...you name
it, youll see it.


ben randolph

Ben Randolph

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crash70 wrote:
>
> No kiddin!! Excessive BO is like cigarette smoke. If someone wants to be
> dirty, FINE. But don't make me have to put up with your foul STENCH in
> public!!

amen. that crosses the line of personal invasion.

> I absolutely, completely, HATE golf

all right, ive had enough of your "alternative thinking". youre getting
killfiled.

> and the lifestyle and mindset that goes along with it.
> (Country clubs, alcoholism, schmoozing and sucking up to
> people with more money, trying to look like you have more money, etc.)

oh...*that* part of golf....
kay, i guess youre not killfiled after all. :-)

ben "saw way too much of that shit while working at a golf course" randolph

Ben Randolph

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Marshall Willenholley wrote:
>
> Congratulations on your brilliant "How to Make it Into as Many Kill
> Files as Possible in One Thread" demonstration.

ive said my part on those who killfile many times.

> Large doses of
> inflamatory misinformation

none of that. just tons of personal experiences.

> overly strong ignorant opinions

kay, ill buy that. the overly strong part, at least.

> mixed in with a little "fuck everyone who disagrees" mentality...

not really. you disagree with what i say? thats fine with me. its not
gonna change the way i think. i can accept your views, im just not
gonna partake in them. its when people are too blinded, or too
astounded that someone could possible think different them *them* (in
this case, that someone is me), and then they disagree with *me*, rather
than with my words.

this (to me) is more of a "fuck those long boring honda threads" type of
thing. for the past few weeks, ive had to wade through huge honda
threads just to get to something that was of interest to me. now its my
turn. :-) id also like to bring a little fun into the NG. for those
that are still bothering to read this thread, they are either laughing
with me, or laughing at me. ...the point is though, theyre laughing.
ive got no problems with either one. its just good clean fun....

> (The little "it's all for fun" escape clause is a nice touch too.)

i thought so too.
but, like everything else i say, it *is* the truth.

ben "the killfile prince, serving under his highness, king dolimite" randolph

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Its German for "JARJARBINKS"

J-Spec wrote:
>
> >>its something you expect to see on 'the' frat boy's parentally financed
> >>a4 jetta.
>
> that and "FARFRUMPUKIN" : )

Team Degenerate

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Ben Randolph wrote:
> ??? you mean like girl scout cookies? i, for one, disagree with your
> opinion that girl scout cookies are crap. i like the chocolate minty
> ones (the ones in the green box) the best. i think *you* suck because
> you dont like girl scout cookies.

I once ate 3 boxes of GSC in 2 hours :-)

Richard J. Harris

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Brian Watkins wrote:
>
> The person brandishing such sticker obviously enjoys his music while
> driving his 'Dub (is there any better place to groove to music?).
>
> Stereotyping people according to the stickers on their ride makes no
> sense.

When you put something on the back of your car you expect people to
judge you by that. When you invite abuse its rude not to accept it!

>I guess since I have a Dead sticker on the cars *I* *own* (not
> my parents), I should have long hair, smoke pot, and have no job. Oops.
> Wrong on all counts.
>
> Brian - who never belonged to a fraternity
> '96 GTI VR6 - which drives best with 4/4/85 I
> '77 Westfalia - which drives best with 4/12/78 II
>
> In article <37A6F31D...@psu.edu>,
> Ben Randolph <bxr...@psu.edu> wrote:


> >
> >
> > typhus wrote:
> > >
> > > .. as spotted on an imported US-Golf. "FUKENGRUVEN"... Wasn't the
> > > word "Fahrvergnügen" (joy of driving)? The sticker had the pencilman
> > > on it but I can't get the word out of my head.
> >

> > its a bunch of hippie *shit*. (excuse me, PSEUDO-hippie shit) expect
> to
> > find it next to the grateful dead sticker on the dark blue a2 jetta
> gl.
> >
> > or,


> >
> > its something you expect to see on 'the' frat boy's parentally
> financed

> > a4 jetta. again, often accompanied by a grateful dead sticker.
> >
> > ben randolph
> > whose band has a song about hippies and jerry garcia...

vwgirl

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Team Degenerate <hig...@home.com> wrote in message
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Would that be the Thin Mints one? ;-)

Dolimite79

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>When you put something on the back of your car you expect people to
>judge you by that. When you invite abuse its rude not to accept it!
>

Well put
Justin

Dolimite79

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>ben "the killfile prince, serving under his highness, king dolimite" randolph

Blush Blush Welcome to my kingdom of "Assholia"

crash70

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>> I absolutely, completely, HATE golf
>
>all right, ive had enough of your "alternative thinking". youre getting
>killfiled.
>
>> and the lifestyle and mindset that goes along with it.
>> (Country clubs, alcoholism, schmoozing and sucking up to
>> people with more money, trying to look like you have more money, etc.)
>
>oh...*that* part of golf....
>kay, i guess youre not killfiled after all. :-)


Let me tell you why I hate golf.

When I was in high school, I worked at the driving range of a municipal golf
course located in a very affluent town. I drove the golf cart with the
expanded metal caging all around it that pushed the "ball picker". Anyways,
I would start at the end of the range, and work my way in. These rich,
drunk, cheating on thier wives, golf club swinging pricks would take pot
shots at me on a regular basis. They thought it was funny when they'd hit
the cart and scare the crap out of me. Then, when I'd come in to empty the
picker, they'd have the nerve to walk up to me, holding thier basket out,
and say "how about a couple extra balls?" These sauced-out white collar
assholes had more money than I'll ever dream of, and they're schmoozing
balls from the range boy!!! What dicks.

Had a bad taste in my mouth for golf ever since.

: )


larry

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I am an outsider and I am pissing myself laughing.

> im really surprised no one came right out and said, YOU SUCK. i mean,
> this is all entertainment (except when we are talking about VW's, then
> its part education as well) but think about it...if you were an outsider
> reading this thread, and somebody posted something similar to the above,
> wouldnt you just piss yourself laughing? im laughing right now cause
> its so friggin hilarious. i dont know what i would have done if someone
> responded like that. i wouldnt know whether to laugh or go hide in my
> closet.


> ben randolph
> p.s. im having fun. are you?

Me Too!

Matthew Pfeil
1976 MG Midget
1978 MG Midget
1993 VW Passat GLX


larry

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> I'm a gun-owning, VW driving, Grateful Dead listening, golf-playing,
public
> serving, person. What the hell does that make me?
> Collin
> '97 Jetta GLX


Confused.....Troubled....Hmmmmmmmm the choices are endless.
--

larry

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Eric

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On Wed, 04 Aug 1999 22:57:17 GMT, "crash70" <cra...@epix.net> opined:


Then there's guys like me - public course, crummy clubs, x-out balls
and a smile for all the folks who bust their asses to give me a "good
walk spoiled." There are assholes everywhere, and golf is one of
those places. Just like the VW NG, and everywhere else.

Don't let the idiots make your decisions - there are plenty of real
folks playing golf out there...

Eric


Michael Keller

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(to the tune of "Okie from Muskogee")

"I'm proud to be a hippie from Olima
We're friendly to all the squares from all the states
We all wear our hair long like folks used ta
And we can't think of anyone to hate"
The Youngbloods

"What's so funny about peace, love and understanding?"
Elvis Costello

I was gonna say something about giving other people the benefit of the
doubt, but I think the above says it all.<g>

Eric

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Richard J. Harris wrote in message <37A88698...@goodnet.com>...

>
>
>Brian Watkins wrote:
>>
>> The person brandishing such sticker obviously enjoys his music while
>> driving his 'Dub (is there any better place to groove to music?).
>>
>> Stereotyping people according to the stickers on their ride makes no
>> sense.
>
>When you put something on the back of your car you expect people to
>judge you by that. When you invite abuse its rude not to accept it!


Damn straight. Saw a guy in a pickup down in Eugene, OR (very liberal town)
with a sticker on the back bumper that said "Meat is tasty, Fur is warm." (A
takeoff on the "Meat is Murder" stickers everywhere in veggie-land.) Some
guys in a pink-triangled Microbus pull up and start cussing at him and
calling him a "puppy-killer." (?!?!?!?) On one hand, I agree with the
pickup-guy - being omnivorous myself. :) OTOH, he's tooling around with a
big sticker that pokes fun at people's closely-held beliefs. My opinion is
that putting ANY kind of sticker on your car that doesn't come from a
sponsor is an invitation for others to comment.

Every used car I've owned has required some sticker-removal, bumper and
otherwise. Why bother projecting to the world what affiliations you have?
Why invite the trouble, if the potential for trouble is there? Some folks
are nuts, and may do damage to your car if you are "wearing the wrong
colors." Just something to ponder...

Eric


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>>Ben Randolph wrote:
>>>i think hippies suck. i think frats suck.
>>What, exactly, do they suck?
>
>Oh Christ here we go again. They suck dick. There. That's the
>answer you wanted, right?
>

No, I was looking for something more imaginative.
Collin
'97 Jetta GLX
I'm all about peace. Let's bring it about via superior firepower.
I had an Acura Legend once...it sucked.
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vwgirl wrote in message <7oa1pf$b45$1...@nntp6.atl.mindspring.net>...

>> I once ate 3 boxes of GSC in 2 hours :-)
>
>Would that be the Thin Mints one? ;-)


Put em in the freezer overnight first! Yum.

vwgirl

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Michael Keller <kell...@wvlc.wvnet.edu> wrote in message
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Ooooh! Must try that next time! = )

Alden Cates

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In article <7ofapd$h87$1...@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net>, "vwgirl"
<vwg...@NOSPAMMERpipeline.com> wrote:

Don't try it with the Samoas though, you'll end up sucking on a frozen
cookie until the carmel gives way ;-)

Yeah, I'm a samoa GSC kinda guy.... THEN the thin mints.

-Alden

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i got one that says fukenbroken at a vw show.

vwgirl

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Alden Cates <aca...@hooked.net> wrote in message
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Kinda like how many licks does it take to get to center of a Tootsie Pop?
;-)

-vwgirl = )


Matt B.

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vwgirl wrote in message <7p3p7v$b8d$1...@nntp6.atl.mindspring.net>...

>Kinda like how many licks does it take to get to center of a Tootsie
Pop? ;-)

One...two-HOOOO!!!..three! <crunch!>

Thrrrrreeee!
--
-Matt
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eric thompson

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"Matt B." wrote:

whatever it is i think I see, becomes a tootsie roll to me!
that song was in my head all last week. what a coincidence. BTW they
still show that add sometimes during syndicated the simpsons episodes on
Fox.... it's great.
One... ta-hoooooo!!!.. threee <crunch!>
a-threee!

damn! LOL!!!

oh BTW this is a VW newsgroup so stop posting this
crap!!!! ;-)
-eric


vwgirl

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eric thompson <eric.t...@quantum.com> wrote in message
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Is that right? Saids who? Mr. Tootsie Roll Owl? ;-) Very well back to
the topic at hand...eating a tootsie roll pop while driving a VW, any
dangers in doing both at the same time? Would it impose any driving
impairments? ;-)

-vwgirl = )

larry

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